ALRIGHT GUYS, I'VE FINALLY UPDATED MY WEBSITE! You all can find the written summary of Iliad book 7 via this link :) I hope these help xx www.moaninc.co.uk/homers-iliad/book-7-summary
25:30 Hi ! I think he just changed his mind all the sudden after he asked them to pray silently. He thought that they didn't fear the troyans so why not pray out loud ( if you want to ) so the troyans can hear you. He also was about to have an important and mortal fight, maybe he just didn't have the right words and couldn't make up his mind at the moment as to what should he request them to do.
“At the arse-crack of dawn” is a genuine quote from the Iliad, fun fact. Excellent video btw. I think the Greeks treated Ajax like he won because Hector is so goddamn scary, for anyone to fight him and live is the closest to victory they’ll get.
At just under 17 minutes you were questioning the pronunciation of Idaeus. I'm reading the Fagles translation and he has it in his glossary at the back of the book: IDAEUS (eye-dee'-us).
i need to figure out what a "lot" is...... they throw them in a helmet when they want to decide who is going to do something, so maybe it's like a piece of paper with names on them.....
AT 15:00 in, I'm wondering if the combatants either had spear-bearers similar to Squires, or two spears each to start. Because once Ajax's spear went and stuck in Hector's shield, unless Hector was super nice and careful getting it out even if he could, I imagine that the spear tip could be quite damaged.
Achilles is not sacred of Hector. hes just busy still crying. In his tent Holding tissue paper, on his bed, covered under the blanket wearing shorts. He missd his mommy. Haha
Well book 7, line 113-114: “even Achilles … trembles to meet this man”. So achilles is doing a little bit of both 😂 Both moping about in his tent like a little baby AND being scared of Hector haha
There is no connection in this Book analysis (although it is timely since I just completed Book 6) and my question, but I need a scholar’s opinion. I have been reading about the studies of Milman Parry and his student Harry Lord whose works revolutionized Homeric studies. Do you adhere to Parry’s (and, after his untimely death at age 33, Lord) that Homer was illiterate and his epics were passed down through history beginning with the oral tradition? This does not jell with translator Barry Powell’s belief the the Greek alphabet was formed just for Homer’s poems. This would mean that Homer was reciting while a scribe was writing. But, Parry believed that at the time there was no written word and transcripts and it was the oral tradition that moved Homer’s epics from generation to generation. There is so much to Parry and Lord’s work, which was scientific and extremely well done. They found that the oral tradition was still being used in Yugoslavia (Serbia-Croat) and Bosnia in the 1930’s. There was very little to no books or written words. Everything was passed down through oral tradition. They were both Homeric scholars and of course did all of this based on what they had asked themselves, and formed their hypothesis: how did Homers poems get from his time down to our time? Fascinating stuff. What are your thoughts on this?
Wasn’t Ajax the first cousin of Hector? Priam’s sister was taken by Telamon as a wife and gave birth to Ajax. So Hector’s father and Ajax’s mother are brother and sister(?).
I love Nestor because this is the first Greek text I'm reading and I'm just believing all the hype about him because all the other characters believe it 😂. Also I assumed he was there to mostly provide counsel, and idk if he had any children fit to fight. Like I said, big noob regarding the Greek legends.
May I ask you why you chose to overact, do unlikely grimaces and make a lot of things from the Iliad sound ridiculous rather than trying and using your knowledge to contribute to bring those stories to new life for another audience?
Do you also have a problem with Crash Course because they use animation and humor in their videos to recap world history, science, literature, etc? She is simply recapping the events of the book in an entertaining and accessible way; I find these videos to be immensely helpful for solidifying what I just read.
ALRIGHT GUYS, I'VE FINALLY UPDATED MY WEBSITE! You all can find the written summary of Iliad book 7 via this link :) I hope these help xx www.moaninc.co.uk/homers-iliad/book-7-summary
this video is the best supplement to my reading of the Iliad!! I’ve understood it so much more and with so much more enjoyment! keep making videos!
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25:30 Hi ! I think he just changed his mind all the sudden after he asked them to pray silently. He thought that they didn't fear the troyans so why not pray out loud ( if you want to ) so the troyans can hear you. He also was about to have an important and mortal fight, maybe he just didn't have the right words and couldn't make up his mind at the moment as to what should he request them to do.
“At the arse-crack of dawn” is a genuine quote from the Iliad, fun fact.
Excellent video btw. I think the Greeks treated Ajax like he won because Hector is so goddamn scary, for anyone to fight him and live is the closest to victory they’ll get.
At just under 17 minutes you were questioning the pronunciation of Idaeus. I'm reading the Fagles translation and he has it in his glossary at the back of the book: IDAEUS (eye-dee'-us).
This is my second time reading and reviewing this book and these videos with you. I love them so much and I’m thankful for you!
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Another fantastic book break down!
Antenor is like the Nestor of the Trojans. The old wise guy who people are supposed to listen to, even though he isn't a prophet.
These vids are literally so helpful Tysm 😭
You are so welcome!!!! ❤️
i need to figure out what a "lot" is...... they throw them in a helmet when they want to decide who is going to do something, so maybe it's like a piece of paper with names on them.....
That's pretty accurate, yeah
thank you for these series i love them. it is so much easier to enjoy the book while watching your videos!
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AT 15:00 in, I'm wondering if the combatants either had spear-bearers similar to Squires, or two spears each to start. Because once Ajax's spear went and stuck in Hector's shield, unless Hector was super nice and careful getting it out even if he could, I imagine that the spear tip could be quite damaged.
You are our Helen of troy 🔥👊🏽🔥
Dear lord I hope not 😅
Achilles is not sacred of Hector. hes just busy still crying. In his tent Holding tissue paper, on his bed, covered under the blanket wearing shorts. He missd his mommy. Haha
Well book 7, line 113-114: “even Achilles … trembles to meet this man”. So achilles is doing a little bit of both 😂 Both moping about in his tent like a little baby AND being scared of Hector haha
@@MoAnInc hahaha 😆👍
As much as I think Agamemnon is an ass, it’s fair to say that menalaos would be dead twice over without his brother 😂
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please do the odyssey next please
Aye aye, captain!
You’re awesome
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12:20 the stereotypical *CHAD*
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There is no connection in this Book analysis (although it is timely since I just completed Book 6) and my question, but I need a scholar’s opinion. I have been reading about the studies of Milman Parry and his student Harry Lord whose works revolutionized Homeric studies.
Do you adhere to Parry’s (and, after his untimely death at age 33, Lord) that Homer was illiterate and his epics were passed down through history beginning with the oral tradition? This does not jell with translator Barry Powell’s belief the the Greek alphabet was formed just for Homer’s poems. This would mean that Homer was reciting while a scribe was writing. But, Parry believed that at the time there was no written word and transcripts and it was the oral tradition that moved Homer’s epics from generation to generation. There is so much to Parry and Lord’s work, which was scientific and extremely well done. They found that the oral tradition was still being used in Yugoslavia (Serbia-Croat) and Bosnia in the 1930’s. There was very little to no books or written words. Everything was passed down through oral tradition. They were both Homeric scholars and of course did all of this based on what they had asked themselves, and formed their hypothesis: how did Homers poems get from his time down to our time?
Fascinating stuff. What are your thoughts on this?
i love that i'm not the only girl who likes thirsting over hot warriors.... LOL
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Wasn’t Ajax the first cousin of Hector? Priam’s sister was taken by Telamon as a wife and gave birth to Ajax. So Hector’s father and Ajax’s mother are brother and sister(?).
Not Ajax but his half brother Teucer was half Trojan despite being a famous archer on the Greek side.
It's funny that most of nestor's advice doesn't work in the end
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I love Nestor because this is the first Greek text I'm reading and I'm just believing all the hype about him because all the other characters believe it 😂. Also I assumed he was there to mostly provide counsel, and idk if he had any children fit to fight. Like I said, big noob regarding the Greek legends.
Antilochus is there and he’s (one of*) Nestor’s sons!!!
@@MoAnInc I'm so glad this channel exists
I can’t stand Nestor, lol
Poor Nestor 😭 he’s good for counsel … but not much else 😂
May I ask you why you chose to overact, do unlikely grimaces and make a lot of things from the Iliad sound ridiculous rather than trying and using your knowledge to contribute to bring those stories to new life for another audience?
Do you also have a problem with Crash Course because they use animation and humor in their videos to recap world history, science, literature, etc?
She is simply recapping the events of the book in an entertaining and accessible way; I find these videos to be immensely helpful for solidifying what I just read.