@@jacobdautriche9023 she played Bach like a robot without feelings, but with ideal techniques. Milstien and many others played Bach mach better, this recording is an example.
Well, by the time this was written tonality wasn't THE thing to do in music, there still were a lot of modal music, in this case, the sonata is written in G dorian, wich key signature is presented with only b flat
This was written well into the period of time the correct key signatures where understood and used. He was not thinking Dorian or any such nonsense. I have yet to hear a logic explanation for this one flat situation. His hymnal chorales used wrong key signatures ... cuz he arranged from the church book source so he probably did it deliberately so to not scare off the sight reading church goers. But this violin thing... well the other pieces are in sharp keys. My only guess is his students kept reading E open string so he might have thought to save his sanity to write Eb every time it occurs so no kids would mess it up. That’s my guess until better evidence appears
Ah yes, allow me tell you a painful tale about this piece. I am a self taught violinist who has no idea what is appropriate to play vs inappropriate. I wanted to show my absolute maximum potential when I met my first violin teacher in college so I decided to play the fuga. Well the first half of the page anyway. It impressed her enough she was crazy enough to let me do a jury on it after two semesters. Let me tell ya, I had no absolutely no clue what I was in for. I had no clue just how much I had ahead of me for the violin until I played the fuga. how did it go? Well I “played” it but the mastery required to create the voices was so beyond me. A couple years later and I’m playing the Kabalevsky Concerto lol. Anyway, don’t underestimate the fuga, it’s so much more than double,triple,quadruple stops; that’s only half the story.
Violin was the first instrument he learned as a kid by his father. But his forte became keyboard instruments, so and his reputation. Also he was known for his compositions on the desk. So, I am not surprised that he was drawn upon an organ or a harpsichord or a manuscript. On the other hand, I believe as a violinist he was one of the best of his time, because of his knowledge... This polyphonical writing is very difficult to come with and execute on a violin. His works on violin are magnificent and beautiful. So, it's a wonder he didn't become very much known for his violin compositions, or he wasn't drawn with a violin...
CPE Bach said he played the violin powerfully and cleanly until old age. Furthermore, his favourite instrument to play in a chamber music setting was the viola. Bach's father was a violinist, and so it is likely he learned first from his father, and then from his brother in Ohrdruf. Bach's first job was as a court violinist in Weimar.
i dont find it odd - if Nobuyuki Tsujii can play Chaikovsjy's 1st piano concerto and Rachmaninov blind, I would have expected Bach to be better than Paganini.
I just realized if I follow along with the scrolling, I’m improving my sight-reading. I’m gonna watch these way more often (I still watched them, but I’m gonna start watching them more).
If I was in a deserted island I would take the complete works of J.S.Bach, A.Webern and Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. I need nothing else than the divine music of bach, the minimalism of webern and the craziness of captain beefheart. You?
I hear a lot of Toccata and Fugue in D minor during the Fugue portion of this piece. Does anyone know when Bach wrote this? 1720 seems to be when he had completed the work but there're too many similarities to Toccata and Fugue in D minor to have been composed so many years afterwards
Some people speculate Toccata and Fugue in D minor was supposed to be written for the violin, probably because the counterpoint is constructed in many times through arpeggios or more sparse and defined chords, which were techniques Bach used mostly on his violin pieces due to the knowledge of the instrument at the time. This also makes many musicians consider Tocatta and Fugue in D minor an unusual piece among the other organ compositions. So basically they probably look alike not because they had the same inspiration, but because the same composition techniques were used, since they would be composed for the same instrument
gerubach At first i assumed it was some sort of Dorian mode hybrid, but all my searches are inconclusive, it could be that it was simpler to notate it in such a way
I've been lead to believe that melodic minor gets preference over natural minor with regard to key signatures. So in other words, the Eb would be E natural in ascending G melodic minor, and so the 2nd flat is not written in the key signature. This may be one explanation as to why we see key signatures minus one flat.
ollebor09 Thank you for this valuable explanation. It does make sense that melodic & natural minors can still make any piece "minor" regardless of key signature. I'm glad CorgiGamer brought it up in the first place.
Very nice:) May I ask, what notation program did you use to make this? I am trying the same with Sibelius but cant get the video and audio to sync perfectly. I would appreciate if you could tell me
The scrolling you see isn't done by only one particular software but five: Adobe Photoshop: Used for fine alignments to graphics. Adobe Fireworks: Used for graphics / secondary alignments. Adobe Flash: Used for scrolling graphics Sound Studio: Used for audio editing. Quicktime Pro 7.7: for the final video production to upload.
+Greg Moberg These are just my thoughts: look at the paper the manuscript was written on. Whether or not tempo changes in the middle of the piece were common practice in Bach's time, how practical do you think it would be to squeeze one in there among all of the other things demanding space? Small margin for error. Most of his works weren't intended to be widely published, so maybe Bach figured it wasn't a big deal if there were so many 32nd notes.
+Greg Moberg In Bach's time, the time signature and note values were used to indicate things about tempo. In general, fast pieces were written in longer notes, and slower pieces were written in shorter notes. By writing this in C time with the fastest notes being 64th notes, Bach was telling the performer that there are important stresses on every quarter note beat. If he'd instead written it in 4/4 time with the fastest notes being 16th notes, it would have meant that the quarter notes in that time signature (16th notes in the current notation) were to be stressed --- a completely different feel.
I'm new to this music and its rules. Can someone please explain me why is the second movement based on the same theme as the third movement of the keyboard concerto in d minor? Was this a common thing back then?
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It's also the theme from the BWV 1000 luth suite, now arranged for the guitar :)
Since people back then didn't generally play music over a year or two old, composers often used ideas from other people works or from earlier works of their own.
@themobiusfunction, of course it's not. It's just in a similar vain, and since the authenticity of that piece is constantly in question, I find it relevant.
@Henri Roy no, Bach still wrote the cello suites. His wife just made copies I guess. Fugues are harder to play on cellos because of the way the instrument is played.
What made me surprised is not only that fugue can be played by a solo violin, but Bach's ingenuity to write such a masterpiece.
That Fuga is utterly divine. It sounds more like he’s playing a piano than a violin with those double and triple stops.
@John Smith I believe he meant baroque violin, as the modern violin wasn't around at his time.
Well there's also a version of this that Bach made for organ, so he may have had a keyboard in mind.
Oceananswer whats the bwv number?
Bronk Tug Its The Fugue subject of BWV 539 “The fiddle” :)
For anyone still wondering, it's Nathan Milstein playing.
Good. Hilary Hahn is still unmatched in 20th and 21st century
@@jacobdautriche9023 Really. We're annoying it? Ugh...
@@chopin65 i dont get it
@@jacobdautriche9023 she played Bach like a robot without feelings, but with ideal techniques. Milstien and many others played Bach mach better, this recording is an example.
Было бы странно, если бы это играл Петя Иванов
12:27 Presto. It's just insane!
I know that fugues are quite difficult to play on a keyboard, but playing fugues on an UNACCOMPANIED VIOLIN? It sounds unreal.
Wait until you hear the other(s?).....haven’t studied these in a long while.
@@Keithustus I have heard the others, still quite flabbergasted.
It sounds like there are 2 violins playing.
How I love violin writing !! The grand arpegios are so impressive and the liberty that one can take in his playing is phenomenal.
Great point. Contrary to some perceptions, Bach encouraged great crrativity and fluidity in performance.
I learnt that in baroque times the key signature hadn't have to mean the effective tonality.
Well, by the time this was written tonality wasn't THE thing to do in music, there still were a lot of modal music, in this case, the sonata is written in G dorian, wich key signature is presented with only b flat
This was written well into the period of time the correct key signatures where understood and used. He was not thinking Dorian or any such nonsense. I have yet to hear a logic explanation for this one flat situation. His hymnal chorales used wrong key signatures ... cuz he arranged from the church book source so he probably did it deliberately so to not scare off the sight reading church goers. But this violin thing... well the other pieces are in sharp keys. My only guess is his students kept reading E open string so he might have thought to save his sanity to write Eb every time it occurs so no kids would mess it up. That’s my guess until better evidence appears
@@RicardoMarlowFlamenco how kind of him
@@RicardoMarlowFlamenco why is dorian nonsense
@@TheKABE09 Well, the sonata is in G minor, not dorian
Ah yes, allow me tell you a painful tale about this piece. I am a self taught violinist who has no idea what is appropriate to play vs inappropriate. I wanted to show my absolute maximum potential when I met my first violin teacher in college so I decided to play the fuga. Well the first half of the page anyway. It impressed her enough she was crazy enough to let me do a jury on it after two semesters. Let me tell ya, I had no absolutely no clue what I was in for. I had no clue just how much I had ahead of me for the violin until I played the fuga. how did it go? Well I “played” it but the mastery required to create the voices was so beyond me. A couple years later and I’m playing the Kabalevsky Concerto lol. Anyway, don’t underestimate the fuga, it’s so much more than double,triple,quadruple stops; that’s only half the story.
This performance is exquisite
It's odd, but I just can't see a wigged and somewhat corpulent Bach playing a violin. But he was said to be an above average violinist.
Violin was the first instrument he learned as a kid by his father. But his forte became keyboard instruments, so and his reputation. Also he was known for his compositions on the desk. So, I am not surprised that he was drawn upon an organ or a harpsichord or a manuscript. On the other hand, I believe as a violinist he was one of the best of his time, because of his knowledge... This polyphonical writing is very difficult to come with and execute on a violin. His works on violin are magnificent and beautiful. So, it's a wonder he didn't become very much known for his violin compositions, or he wasn't drawn with a violin...
CPE Bach said he played the violin powerfully and cleanly until old age. Furthermore, his favourite instrument to play in a chamber music setting was the viola. Bach's father was a violinist, and so it is likely he learned first from his father, and then from his brother in Ohrdruf. Bach's first job was as a court violinist in Weimar.
i dont find it odd - if Nobuyuki Tsujii can play Chaikovsjy's 1st piano concerto and Rachmaninov blind, I would have expected Bach to be better than Paganini.
Wow this is amazing! Excellent audio and visual quality.
Wow the rythym looks unbelievably hard.
It's supposed to be kinda ad libitum, I'd say
Bwv 1001-1006 is the famous solo violin scrolling of bach . And is also the hardest
Wonderful work !! Never see nothiing like this ... reading the original piece !!
Congratiolations from Portugal!!
Hungarian pianist Andras Schiff has said, "There are no straight lines in Bach," accounting for the curves connecting the notes.
I absolutely love this!!! :-)
Thank you so much! Just love Bach!!!
Огромное спасибо!
This version is awesome
Mind-boggling ............. ♥
Maravilhosoooooooo!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for uploading!
Thank you very much!
This and the album it came from is perfect for art.
Imagine the horror for the violin student expected to play 4 voices at the same time. I'm sure Bach himself could, he's a master violinist.
Fun fact, the fugue subject is actually from an earlier piece, prelude and fugue for organ in d minor bwv 539
No it's the other way around. The fugue was first written for violin, then later transcribed for organ
I love this
Blagodaram!
4:15
I just realized if I follow along with the scrolling, I’m improving my sight-reading. I’m gonna watch these way more often (I still watched them, but I’m gonna start watching them more).
Love this 😀 ❤ 😍
Love the red rectangle. Its easy to lose my place in the old script if i look away for a min
thank you
your publisher is your friend.
✨👍✨
Thanks for original handwrite note
Did you just call a manuscript an original handwrite note? Brilliant I love it haha!
The player was Nathan Milstein.
Ty
The fuga has the same subject as BWV 539
If I was in a deserted island I would take the complete works of J.S.Bach, A.Webern and Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart. I need nothing else than the divine music of bach, the minimalism of webern and the craziness of captain beefheart. You?
Bach, Handel
I hear a lot of Toccata and Fugue in D minor during the Fugue portion of this piece.
Does anyone know when Bach wrote this? 1720 seems to be when he had completed the work but there're too many similarities to Toccata and Fugue in D minor to have been composed so many years afterwards
Some people speculate Toccata and Fugue in D minor was supposed to be written for the violin, probably because the counterpoint is constructed in many times through arpeggios or more sparse and defined chords, which were techniques Bach used mostly on his violin pieces due to the knowledge of the instrument at the time. This also makes many musicians consider Tocatta and Fugue in D minor an unusual piece among the other organ compositions. So basically they probably look alike not because they had the same inspiration, but because the same composition techniques were used, since they would be composed for the same instrument
Where i van find the transcription ? Any book you recomend ?
It says g minor, but the key signature is only 1 flat (f major/d minor) why is that?
That is an excellent question. Like you, I anticipate an answer with great eagerness.
gerubach At first i assumed it was some sort of Dorian mode hybrid, but all my searches are inconclusive, it could be that it was simpler to notate it in such a way
I've been lead to believe that melodic minor gets preference over natural minor with regard to key signatures. So in other words, the Eb would be E natural in ascending G melodic minor, and so the 2nd flat is not written in the key signature. This may be one explanation as to why we see key signatures minus one flat.
ollebor09 Thank you for this valuable explanation. It does make sense that melodic & natural minors can still make any piece "minor" regardless of key signature. I'm glad CorgiGamer brought it up in the first place.
gerubach I know that it was conventional to write Ab Major/F Minor with a Three Flat key signature. Maybe this was applied to all flat keys?
Very nice:) May I ask, what notation program did you use to make this? I am trying the same with Sibelius but cant get the video and audio to sync perfectly. I would appreciate if you could tell me
The scrolling you see isn't done by only one particular software but five:
Adobe Photoshop: Used for fine alignments to graphics.
Adobe Fireworks: Used for graphics / secondary alignments.
Adobe Flash: Used for scrolling graphics
Sound Studio: Used for audio editing.
Quicktime Pro 7.7: for the final video production to upload.
gerubach
Thank you
I would like to know the processes you do, at least to see the playback line synchronized with the score :)
9:16
Was the first movement actually played completely on time?
Bach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As soon as I heard the first note I knew this was Nathan Milstein.
Why didn't Bach use a different tempo indication instead of having to write out all those 32nd notes? Is it to preserve the emphasis of the beat?
+Greg Moberg These are just my thoughts: look at the paper the manuscript was written on. Whether or not tempo changes in the middle of the piece were common practice in Bach's time, how practical do you think it would be to squeeze one in there among all of the other things demanding space? Small margin for error. Most of his works weren't intended to be widely published, so maybe Bach figured it wasn't a big deal if there were so many 32nd notes.
+Greg Moberg Other tempos would have different character I think.
+Greg Moberg In Bach's time, the time signature and note values were used to indicate things about tempo. In general, fast pieces were written in longer notes, and slower pieces were written in shorter notes. By writing this in C time with the fastest notes being 64th notes, Bach was telling the performer that there are important stresses on every quarter note beat. If he'd instead written it in 4/4 time with the fastest notes being 16th notes, it would have meant that the quarter notes in that time signature (16th notes in the current notation) were to be stressed --- a completely different feel.
To te arpeggia mnie zaińspirowały.
I'm new to this music and its rules. Can someone please explain me why is the second movement based on the same theme as the third movement of the keyboard concerto in d minor? Was this a common thing back then?
It's also the theme from the BWV 1000 luth suite, now arranged for the guitar :)
Since people back then didn't generally play music over a year or two old, composers often used ideas from other people works or from earlier works of their own.
Bach recycled his works all the time. He was constantly revising and rearranging.
presto with 1.75x speed...it's Hilary Hahn in Twoset violin video :D
Oh and where did you find the original manuscript? I can’t seem to find anything but the adagio online.
Are there any publishes I can buy that show the original handwriting?
Samuel Olmos imslp.org just download
7:24 BWV 565 Fugue theme.
No, it isn't
@themobiusfunction, of course it's not. It's just in a similar vain, and since the authenticity of that piece is constantly in question, I find it relevant.
Hey,
The sonatas of bach is in The normal sonata structure?
Or sonatas for solo Without structure?
Sonata form was only invented in the classical era, so Bach just used the term "sonata" as a collection of pieces.
5:55😍
Фуга из BWV 539!!!!
Hi. Is Sergey Khachatryan performing?
Alessandro Vaccari no its nathan milstein's
is the sheet above the one originally written by bach?
Yes sir it is. The Cello Suites that I had posted earlier look like Bach's handwriting but is really in his wife's (Anna Magdalena) hand.
gerubach thank you
+gerubach not to sound stupid, but how did they know this? I mean I guess the hand writing must of been different but how did they know it was her?
@Henri Roy no, Bach still wrote the cello suites. His wife just made copies I guess. Fugues are harder to play on cellos because of the way the instrument is played.
@@ErikRyde I had this same question, and the answer was signature and handwriting analysis.
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0:20
Who is playing this music?
Vivaldi Antonio your student...
Probably Milstein
Did Bach write his 6th cello suite earlier or later than his 1st violin sonata?
This constant vibrato ugh
Can anyone tell me why it says g minor but the key signature is only one flat which is d minor
Maybe because it is Dorian g minor?
@@paulmoss4378it was just a convention to write key signatures like that in the Baroque era
who is the performer in this version?
Sorry, I overlooked. It is from Milstein.
Thanks
シチリアーナの第6小節に♮記号が付けてありますが、なぜですか？
Bach told him in dreams how to scrol
12:30
Why he wrote that in 1/32s and then he wrote that andante tempo or what???
www.discogs.com/Nathan-Milstein-J-S-Bach-Sonatas-Partitas/release/4510830
Quel est le nom de l'interprète ?
As-tu songé à faire payer les vidéos les plus demandées, concernant les pièces les plus célèbres ?
what key is this in?
G minor despite the key signature looking like d minor lol
2:48... G-D to C-G bass, tsk tsk parallel 5ths
5:40 Chaconne
can see where his scribbled out mistakes.
www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_35021_f001r
C'est hallucinant de complexité , ça semble fait pour 2 violons (partition à 2 voix)... et puis non, c'est pour un seul.
G minor
Lol
Correct
The Fugue in this is also in the first book of the Well-Tempered Clavier isn't it?
No I think there is just one that sound similar but isn't the same
Emaj partita and cello suite both used in lute suites
Who is the violin player??????
Nathan Milstein
what does bwv stand for?
Bach Werke Verzeichnis (Bach Works Index)
Alex Kalder Bach Werke Verzeichnis
By whe vay
Twosetviolin anyone?
How irrelevant ..........
A bit too dramatic of an interpretation for me
I actually prefer this when played on the guitar.
Rhythm is accurate. Intonation? Not so much...
Intonate 4 strings at the same time, quite imposible, it needs a lot of practice, for these reasons, in my opinion is very understandable
@@ana-ch3ie I wrote this 5 years ago, and gave it another listen after you commented. It's actually quite good.
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