Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 00:31 - Introducing the wall press to handstand drill and explaining its disadvantages 01:18 - Discussing the importance of strong shoulders 02:20 - Tips on what to do to strengthen the press to handstand 03:01 - Introducing the recommended wall press compress drill 03:31 - Beginning the drill; the start position 03:50 - Straddle and hold; press compress form cues 04:07 - Explaining the benefits of the press compress drill 04:44 - Exceptions and cases for the use of the unrecommended wall press to handstand drill 05:16 - Closing notes
Stopping in the most momentum produced area has really helped me with correcting my form on most other exercises in the gym involving weights. The isometric hold variation seems promising.
No one talks about it. Thank you. I could not do crow and crane stand and even push ups a few months back and everyone talked about progressions but not about shoulder strength. Negative pull ups, cobra, chaturanga, inverted rows helped me with my back and shoulder strength and now crow. crane, push ups became so much easier. And when I do crane, I have a semi idea of how to press for handstand now because of the shoulder strength. Getting there.
I started with the wall assist one, but my hands were much closer to the wall and my back didn't touch at all when I brought my splits down. I only touch with the back of my head for balance. This way the full force is on the shoulders and allows for full range of motion in your hips....
Hey Tom, Your videos have given me a lot to work with. I am 42 and practice Jiu Jitsu. That is a sport I would like you to do a good warm up/cool down routine. I have been working on splits and almost have my front split, but my middle split is really not going anywhere. Anyway, probably my age. Also wanted to extend my gratitude for having quality content. Take care.
Omg I was using the back to wall drill and felt like I was accomplishing something. This alternative drill you showed uncovered so many weaknesses in my body/technique. Thanks a lot!! I'm definitely smashing that lole button and hitting that bell!
My favorite part was seeing your traps so strongly engaged during the drill. I know for me, I had no idea that the traps were involved in the handstand or how to involve them. I don't know how much you've talked about strengthening the trapezius muscles, but that was a big gap in my understanding when I began my journey.
Ayy Tom, that was a very cool drill. Here is a third variation. Saw it from Yuri Marmerstein. It's the same as the "bad drill" but you can't touch your shoulders on the wall: 1. Kick up to a back-to-the-wall handstand 2. rest your bum on the wall. Shoulders are away from the wall. 3. Do a negative press to handstand. 4.Resist leaning your shoulders on the wall, except for the very bottom of the movement.
Thanks, great insight--I can do the back to wall straddle press up all day long and cannot press up and get my toes up a tiny fraction in freestand, but It is good for hip flexor mobility pancaking and strength as you commented on and for us lesser humans to straddle hop handstand and descent. I also do this similar leg motion hanging from a bar for aerial hammock and hoop training. I've seen the butt to wall version before but forgot about it--it's time to start it up again!
For me personally, wall HSP not only helped to accustom to the move, as Tom said in the end of the video, but also it was a good drill to increase compressing strength. Maybe not the best exercise, but wall HSP is a good alternative to work both on coordination and compression at the same time, if you already have a good shoulder strength.
Oh man, the press to handstand, I dream of this since like 2 years and I never really did progress, but tbh I never was really consitantly training it :o Since around april my whole training got way more consistant amd also way smarter and since then I saw super great progress in everything :) But it was like 3 weeks ago wheb I finally understood that the weak link in my press it not the compression or whatever but it's the shoulder. Honestly idk why it took me like that long to realize this that's a little embarrasing but hey :D So I started to add some extra shoulder flexion work and lots of press negatives and (also my pike pushups got better, so like general strengh) then it happend last week while I was speaking to someone about why I work on hamstring flexibilty and I said that I want to lear a press handstand and was going to show/explain and I said "it won't work as I can't do it yet" and in this moment I just did my first press ever :o Tbh it was suuuper ugly, like a tuck press but legs apart, but hey I can reproduce it now. That's super motivating to continue my press work And from now on I will also do your exercise, which I actually never saw anywhere befor (and I was watching like every excisting video :D) Well that was way more than I actually wanted to say but it just felt so great when I did it and I wanted to share it :) I really like your content btw :) Edit: there was a point when the back to wall drill helped me understanding but a week later that was it, and I totally agree that it's not the best :)
@@MesarosRonel Ah shit sorry :o I would also like to know someone who also likes handstands :) First I thought my english was so terrible that you asked for this :D
@@Panini_Paul congratz on your press dude! How many belly to wall hspu can you do? And do you can reach the floor in the pancake stretch? :) Judt want to compare if im also ready
Really interesting drill 🤔 no idea if I'm actually strong enough to do this so will give it a go 💪 I like that the arms aren't fully overhead too as I still need to work on flexibility. Looks like a great drill 💪 p.s your photo bombing pooch is a legend
Any advice for some who can straddle planche for 5-6 sec but cannot press to handstand? It seems that I have the strength covered but you said it is mostly lack of strength that doesn’t allow people to do the movement
Hello Sorry Brother Do you have a Calisthenics or Bodyweight Exercise for the Side Delt or Side Shoulders, Posterior Delt or Back Shoulders & Upper,Middle and Lower Trapezius, Thoracic and Lower Back, Forearm, Wrist and Rotator cuff and How to Neck exercise and Upper Abs, Obliques or Side Abs & Lower Abs Type, Variations Workout?🤔
thinking about it, this makes sense. i've heard quite a few people give similar advice on planche training, using the chest to wall method and then bringing the shoulders away from the wall over time, increasing load. but then again, this is coming from a guy that can't even hold a handstand, but can get on parallel bars, tucked planche to handstand pushup (if that helps explain it). so maybe focus more on shoulders will help me get the regular handstand? who knows.
Can you do a stretching routine for MMA? I find I need a lot of flexibility Brazilian jui Jitsu (10th planet kinda stuff) and Muay Thai kicks but also I find I get really tight after my sessions so maybe like a recovery routine? Love the videos 🤘🏻
Hey Mr Tom, Is it an idea that you make a follow along video for the press handstand? You're giving all the right tips and excersises in your videos , but I really need a companion when I do this excersises..You're funny comments and accents always makes the excersises less suckier for me. I hope you can make one Greeting tjebbe
I can do the frog to handstand but not the press to handstand... it feels like lifting the legs is more of a problem than holding with the shoulders. Any Tips?
Hi Tom any chance you can make a video about the effect of heavy strength work, DOMS and the temporary loss of ROM that accompanies this. I am beginning to think that my strength work may be holding back my flexibility progress. Cheers!
Awesome content! Do you have some rules of thumb for how strong your shoulders need to be before compression/rolling up the hips/flexibility becomes the limiting factor? If you can do handstand pushups against a wall but have absolutely no shot at pressing to handstand, would that be an indication that the limitation is in the hips?
Is it normal if you can't even wall press (the "bad" way)? I simply feel too much pain in my wrist when I try it. And by the way: I am training for handstands for 1 year now and your channel was my main (if not the only) source for learning it. I am really grateful for your work:). After one year of training my right wrist has now a little "hill" (I don't mean the bone of the forearm). On some days it's bigger and on others it's smaller. Most of the time it doesn't hurt and I can still do handstands but I am a little concerned. Do you perhaps know what it could be?
Very interesting view on this drill..had never thought about it that way🙏🏻I had been working on this dragonfly pose in hopes to press to a handstand one day so this drill is perfect!
Can you make a tutorial on how to work up to a one minute or even more than that freestanding HS when you already can hold a HS? I'm currently stuck at holding a 40s freestanding HS with perfect form and balance is not the issue but endurance is. Just drilling the freestanding HS over and over won't do the trick for me.
Based on my own experience: if your butt keeps sliding down the wall, you need to push harder into the floor. You might think you're pushing with everything but you'll realise how much you really need to push. As you do more reps, your butt will start sliding down again because your shoulders (idk which muscles) are tiring. If you can't keep your butt up no matter how hard you push, then keep trying anyway. You're building the strength each time you try.
Hi Tom, great video as always! I will definitely try this out. I was wondering what your thoughts are on using bands (attached to a pull up bar) for assistance in the press? Then using lighter and lighter bands as you progress in shoulder strength. I like this because the balance element is still there to some degree but wasn't sure if it is helpful in the long run (much like using bands for muscle ups) as the strength requirements change throughout the movement and are difficult to quantify. Thanks!
Hey , i did some handstanding last week but last day i pushed myself to a point that i doubled my normal training , after that i didn't train for a week , then after ; all of a sudden i couldn't lift myself , my elbows start to hurt me so much only when im in handstand position , im so frustrated & scared , i can't train& i don't know if something bad happen , if anyone read this and have/had this problem pls let me know how did u handle it
lol im the oposet. i can do press to handstand no problem..but using the wall like that. being the thing that dose not help get the move..i cant do. i never used a wall to learn anything. always freeform for me.
Prepubescent females are actually stronger than boys at the same age on a relative strength spectrum. The question is, are you a little girl? If not, you don’t necessarily want to train like one
@@BodyweightWarrior But little boys do it even easier than girls! The point is, you say "you need very strong shoulders". And it is not correct. It is a incompetence. If one has a perfect flexibility, one does not need "very strong shoulders". This is correct and competent.
@@LeoTaxilFrance mobility = strength through a range of motion. Press is a strength move still unless you have perfect limb proportions to manoeuvre around it
HS factory videos - cannot really recommend after paying 150$ for 1.5h of content that did not covered what was supposed to cover. They have multiple packages there, only bought one, but was enough for me.
Im so confused by you in this video you say its a strength move in the other video you made on "why you cant press to handstand" you say its because we lack in flexibility and that its a mobility move xD you confuse me sir!
looking forward to the updated press to handstand tutorial. :D
Cant wait too, been grinding a lot without much result..Patienceeeeeeeeeeee and consistency I guess..
OMG couldn't do this a month ago but been working on my shoulder strength as advised by your good self and I just held this for 5 sec!! 🙌
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:31 - Introducing the wall press to handstand drill and explaining its disadvantages
01:18 - Discussing the importance of strong shoulders
02:20 - Tips on what to do to strengthen the press to handstand
03:01 - Introducing the recommended wall press compress drill
03:31 - Beginning the drill; the start position
03:50 - Straddle and hold; press compress form cues
04:07 - Explaining the benefits of the press compress drill
04:44 - Exceptions and cases for the use of the unrecommended wall press to handstand drill
05:16 - Closing notes
Stopping in the most momentum produced area has really helped me with correcting my form on most other exercises in the gym involving weights. The isometric hold variation seems promising.
If you're struggling with the hamstring flexibility on the pike bum wall push set up: elevate your hands on something
No one talks about it. Thank you. I could not do crow and crane stand and even push ups a few months back and everyone talked about progressions but not about shoulder strength. Negative pull ups, cobra, chaturanga, inverted rows helped me with my back and shoulder strength and now crow. crane, push ups became so much easier. And when I do crane, I have a semi idea of how to press for handstand now because of the shoulder strength. Getting there.
I started with the wall assist one, but my hands were much closer to the wall and my back didn't touch at all when I brought my splits down. I only touch with the back of my head for balance. This way the full force is on the shoulders and allows for full range of motion in your hips....
Hey Tom,
Your videos have given me a lot to work with. I am 42 and practice Jiu Jitsu. That is a sport I would like you to do a good warm up/cool down routine.
I have been working on splits and almost have my front split, but my middle split is really not going anywhere. Anyway, probably my age. Also wanted to extend my gratitude for having quality content. Take care.
Omg I was using the back to wall drill and felt like I was accomplishing something. This alternative drill you showed uncovered so many weaknesses in my body/technique. Thanks a lot!! I'm definitely smashing that lole button and hitting that bell!
When I was trainning & actually did my first press to H/Stand. I was over the moon, so excited. So thank you Tom. ✌🏾🤓🤙🏾💚👏🏾
Your legs on your stalder are looking super clean man!!
My favorite part was seeing your traps so strongly engaged during the drill. I know for me, I had no idea that the traps were involved in the handstand or how to involve them. I don't know how much you've talked about strengthening the trapezius muscles, but that was a big gap in my understanding when I began my journey.
Yes!! My traps are developing big time since I started training handstands seriously.
Excellent! I believe this explains a lot of my frustration with PTH progress. Will try this for a few weeks and see if I make progress....
Off topic but I'd love to see some more cooking/food related videos from you!
Never seen this drill before, looking forward to trying it out, thanks a lot!
Ayy Tom, that was a very cool drill.
Here is a third variation. Saw it from Yuri Marmerstein. It's the same as the "bad drill" but you can't touch your shoulders on the wall:
1. Kick up to a back-to-the-wall handstand
2. rest your bum on the wall. Shoulders are away from the wall.
3. Do a negative press to handstand.
4.Resist leaning your shoulders on the wall, except for the very bottom of the movement.
tom: if u can't do the press to handstand ur not strong enough
me: i'm feeling so attacked rite now
Not strong enough right now* 👌
This really helped me with my handstands, you’ve earned my subscribe and bell
Thanks, great insight--I can do the back to wall straddle press up all day long and cannot press up and get my toes up a tiny fraction in freestand, but It is good for hip flexor mobility pancaking and strength as you commented on and for us lesser humans to straddle hop handstand and descent. I also do this similar leg motion hanging from a bar for aerial hammock and hoop training. I've seen the butt to wall version before but forgot about it--it's time to start it up again!
For me personally, wall HSP not only helped to accustom to the move, as Tom said in the end of the video, but also it was a good drill to increase compressing strength.
Maybe not the best exercise, but wall HSP is a good alternative to work both on coordination and compression at the same time, if you already have a good shoulder strength.
Makes a ton of sense explained this way.
Oh man, the press to handstand, I dream of this since like 2 years and I never really did progress, but tbh I never was really consitantly training it :o
Since around april my whole training got way more consistant amd also way smarter and since then I saw super great progress in everything :)
But it was like 3 weeks ago wheb I finally understood that the weak link in my press it not the compression or whatever but it's the shoulder. Honestly idk why it took me like that long to realize this that's a little embarrasing but hey :D
So I started to add some extra shoulder flexion work and lots of press negatives and (also my pike pushups got better, so like general strengh) then it happend last week while I was speaking to someone about why I work on hamstring flexibilty and I said that I want to lear a press handstand and was going to show/explain and I said "it won't work as I can't do it yet" and in this moment I just did my first press ever :o
Tbh it was suuuper ugly, like a tuck press but legs apart, but hey I can reproduce it now. That's super motivating to continue my press work
And from now on I will also do your exercise, which I actually never saw anywhere befor (and I was watching like every excisting video :D)
Well that was way more than I actually wanted to say but it just felt so great when I did it and I wanted to share it :)
I really like your content btw :)
Edit: there was a point when the back to wall drill helped me understanding but a week later that was it, and I totally agree that it's not the best :)
Where are you from man?
@@MesarosRonel Germany, why?
Panini Paul your name sounds Romanian and I thought maybe I found a mate for handstands :))
@@MesarosRonel Ah shit sorry :o
I would also like to know someone who also likes handstands :)
First I thought my english was so terrible that you asked for this :D
@@Panini_Paul congratz on your press dude!
How many belly to wall hspu can you do? And do you can reach the floor in the pancake stretch? :) Judt want to compare if im also ready
Doing it against the wall does help if you need to get the feel of the straddle position in the air, but it doesn't help your shoulders at all.
This is a great drill mate! Thanks for sharing
Really interesting drill 🤔 no idea if I'm actually strong enough to do this so will give it a go 💪 I like that the arms aren't fully overhead too as I still need to work on flexibility. Looks like a great drill 💪 p.s your photo bombing pooch is a legend
Any advice for some who can straddle planche for 5-6 sec but cannot press to handstand? It seems that I have the strength covered but you said it is mostly lack of strength that doesn’t allow people to do the movement
Hello Sorry Brother Do you have a Calisthenics or Bodyweight Exercise for the Side Delt or Side Shoulders, Posterior Delt or Back Shoulders & Upper,Middle and Lower Trapezius, Thoracic and Lower Back, Forearm, Wrist and Rotator cuff and How to Neck exercise and Upper Abs, Obliques or Side Abs & Lower Abs Type, Variations Workout?🤔
Never seen THAT one. Thank you.
thinking about it, this makes sense. i've heard quite a few people give similar advice on planche training, using the chest to wall method and then bringing the shoulders away from the wall over time, increasing load. but then again, this is coming from a guy that can't even hold a handstand, but can get on parallel bars, tucked planche to handstand pushup (if that helps explain it). so maybe focus more on shoulders will help me get the regular handstand? who knows.
Can you do a tutorial on the bent arm press to handstand please 😁
Can you do a stretching routine for MMA? I find I need a lot of flexibility Brazilian jui Jitsu (10th planet kinda stuff) and Muay Thai kicks but also I find I get really tight after my sessions so maybe like a recovery routine?
Love the videos 🤘🏻
Just do weighted tailor's pose and front split stuff, and it should cover most of the 10th planet stuff as well as high kicks.
Hey Mr Tom,
Is it an idea that you make a follow along video for the press handstand?
You're giving all the right tips and excersises in your videos , but I really need a companion when I do this excersises..You're funny comments and accents always makes the excersises less suckier for me.
I hope you can make one
Greeting tjebbe
What was this discount on handstand factory? The link doesn't seem to apply a discount
Genious. You always blew my mind thanks man.
Can you make a mobility rutine for crossfit or a rutine for special forces?
I can do the frog to handstand but not the press to handstand... it feels like lifting the legs is more of a problem than holding with the shoulders. Any Tips?
Hi Tom any chance you can make a video about the effect of heavy strength work, DOMS and the temporary loss of ROM that accompanies this. I am beginning to think that my strength work may be holding back my flexibility progress. Cheers!
The back to wall version is not wrong when it comes to flexibility mobility aspect of it
Thank you so much ...
it was good.....👌👌👌👌👌
Great insight, will start practicing soon. Looks like you also get some mobility gains in the hips.
What if your bum keeps sliding down the wall?
Awesome content! Do you have some rules of thumb for how strong your shoulders need to be before compression/rolling up the hips/flexibility becomes the limiting factor? If you can do handstand pushups against a wall but have absolutely no shot at pressing to handstand, would that be an indication that the limitation is in the hips?
aight gonna go try this out now
Is it normal if you can't even wall press (the "bad" way)? I simply feel too much pain in my wrist when I try it.
And by the way: I am training for handstands for 1 year now and your channel was my main (if not the only) source for learning it. I am really grateful for your work:).
After one year of training my right wrist has now a little "hill" (I don't mean the bone of the forearm). On some days it's bigger and on others it's smaller. Most of the time it doesn't hurt and I can still do handstands but I am a little concerned. Do you perhaps know what it could be?
Cool, can you make a video on strengthening the forearm- I find it hard to strengthen . Cheers
Very interesting view on this drill..had never thought about it that way🙏🏻I had been working on this dragonfly pose in hopes to press to a handstand one day so this drill is perfect!
Can you make a tutorial on how to work up to a one minute or even more than that freestanding HS when you already can hold a HS? I'm currently stuck at holding a 40s freestanding HS with perfect form and balance is not the issue but endurance is. Just drilling the freestanding HS over and over won't do the trick for me.
Based on my own experience: if your butt keeps sliding down the wall, you need to push harder into the floor. You might think you're pushing with everything but you'll realise how much you really need to push. As you do more reps, your butt will start sliding down again because your shoulders (idk which muscles) are tiring. If you can't keep your butt up no matter how hard you push, then keep trying anyway. You're building the strength each time you try.
Hey! What to do in your drill if we are still developing the hamstring flexibility?
Hi Tom, great video as always! I will definitely try this out. I was wondering what your thoughts are on using bands (attached to a pull up bar) for assistance in the press? Then using lighter and lighter bands as you progress in shoulder strength. I like this because the balance element is still there to some degree but wasn't sure if it is helpful in the long run (much like using bands for muscle ups) as the strength requirements change throughout the movement and are difficult to quantify. Thanks!
Hey , i did some handstanding last week but last day i pushed myself to a point that i doubled my normal training , after that i didn't train for a week , then after ; all of a sudden i couldn't lift myself , my elbows start to hurt me so much only when im in handstand position , im so frustrated & scared , i can't train& i don't know if something bad happen , if anyone read this and have/had this problem pls let me know how did u handle it
Love this!
Thank you Tom
Such a cute dog! Haha! That cracked me up! As always, thanks for the vid.
got some strange looks for laughing out loud at my screen when the dog popped in
Hi Tom, how often should you train this drill? Times per week and time spent training.
Press to handstand lol way ahead of me, I can’t even hold my handstand for 10 seconds off a wall. I’m practicing though.
same :D
Worse... 😭
6 second handstand is my record, frustrating how long it’s taking to master 😭😂
Thank you this was really helpful
Amazing tips
Great video tom:)
I have a different problem - i CAN do the straddle press to handstand, but I'm stuck with pike press... do you have any suggestions?
Combo press: straddle up and pike negatives. Maybe some more planche related work
What brand joggers are you wearing in this?
The dog brings you a cookie 😂😍
Do a collab video with other calisthenics athletes in London
The wall press trains the shoulders though.
Красавчик!!! 🙌 Молодец!!!! Thanks 💫Powerfully
Can we use handstand push up to hide gyno little bit????
Great advice
Sir I really inspired with you I want to learn handstand push-ups please help me I am from India. I'm a primary school teacher.
Great video. I do KRAV MAGA and find these videos really inspiring. 🙂👍
Dog was like . . . Good job kid, here's a treat.
lol im the oposet. i can do press to handstand no problem..but using the wall like that. being the thing that dose not help get the move..i cant do. i never used a wall to learn anything. always freeform for me.
So cute 🐕and funny!😊
I practice early in the morning regularly one hour 5 am to 7am
It's like the part of my leg below the knee is continues to bent and I go front and fall also I keep falling back could u tell me what the reason
You just gotta practice balancing more I think
You are great
basically do both exercises
I was just doing this shit omg
Awesome
I hate this drill so much - Just don't understand why it's so popular. Great video boss!
So true
3:43 🤣
Damn, I'm not flexible enough to do that...
Did you throw it tho hooman?!
Yes 😂
@@BodyweightWarrior aight 🤣
@@BodyweightWarrior aight that's good then 🤣
👏👏
Man I couldnt balance my handstand
I don't understand why I'm watching this even though I can't Handstand.....?
Little girls do not have strong shoulders, but they do it perfectly!
Prepubescent females are actually stronger than boys at the same age on a relative strength spectrum. The question is, are you a little girl? If not, you don’t necessarily want to train like one
@@BodyweightWarrior But little boys do it even easier than girls! The point is, you say "you need very strong shoulders". And it is not correct. It is a incompetence. If one has a perfect flexibility, one does not need "very strong shoulders". This is correct and competent.
@@LeoTaxilFrance mobility = strength through a range of motion. Press is a strength move still unless you have perfect limb proportions to manoeuvre around it
HS factory videos - cannot really recommend after paying 150$ for 1.5h of content that did not covered what was supposed to cover. They have multiple packages there, only bought one, but was enough for me.
Im so confused by you in this video you say its a strength move in the other video you made on "why you cant press to handstand" you say its because we lack in flexibility and that its a mobility move xD you confuse me sir!
Wow, basically all the advice I was following is now mute 🤐😂 I can’t even do this drill so definitely not strong enough. Now what?
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You are missing the point of that drill :/
Still miss the messy hair
First.
are you gonna turn into the new AthleanX?
pls dont
I try not to. Like to think the content backs up the title. Unfortunately have to play the game a little
first
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