Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf goes for a drive
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- The Alfa 145 was the most distinctive cars of the '90s, and as a Cloverleaf the last of the old school raw hot hatches, Italian style over Golf bloat.
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What a beautiful car. I'd like one with the tan interior though. Suits the exterior colour very well.
@Mitzi Rascal The 70's orange fiat carpets would look pretty good to actually.
This review brought back so much memories of my youngers years back in Iran. Around 1992, 3 when the Iranian political environment started to change a bit and after the end of Iran-Iraq war the import of foreign cars was allowed and Alfa among some other European manufacturers started advertising their cars. Alfa 145 and MK2 GTI were my favorite cars. I clearly remember I went to a car dealership that had one 145 in it's show room and I absolutely loved it. Unfortunately, Alfa never got to import its cars to Iran at that time, while VW and Opel (Astra) did. I love your 145. I hope you still own it.
Regarding the exterior design...the step-sharp feature-section that runs on the side of the car originated from the 164.You should know this!!
The car was actually designed NOT in 1990 but mostly in 1987-1988 in FIAT CENTRO STILE.Then moved to Alfa for the final detailing around 1989-90.
The most important design feature is actually the REAR!The first hatch to get over the straight horizontal glass line,copied by almost every brand,and also significant for the Alfa rear distinctive look.Also was probably the first to introduce the slanted rear tail light look,also copied by most.
The very distinctive front hook design is 100% Chris Bangle,who was the design chief of the overall project to large extend,in close collaboration to ex Alfa design boss,Ermanno Cressoni,who was his boss at that time.Both also created a greenhouse that is one of the best in terms of quality of execution,just look at the moldings,the very original opening of the tailgate(you noticed that).As a result,the 145 looks still modern,due to this effort.The 146 version was designed at Arese by the Alfa team.They did the rear since the front comes from the 145,which is the base for the 146.The second series bumpers(softer?)were done at the Alfa Arese studio during the DeSilva times as well.
It is 2021 and I am still watching this video till the end. I had a 916 2.0l GTV. Now driving a 105 2.0l GTV. A 145 will be my next car with boxer engine if I can get a 2.0l Cloverleaf. Thanks for this great review.
I am Just amazed how rare this Generation of Alfa Romeo Have become. Such a shame really. Lovely cars.
At 8:20 not a crusader being eaten by the serpent but a Saracen warrior. The serpent or biscione was the personal emblem of the Counts of Milan and was worn during the Crusades. Both the Count of Milan and the King of England also used the same flag of St George by personal agreement during the Crusades, which is why the flag of the City of Milan and of England is exactly the same today.
The reviews you upload are thorough and informative, with a relaxed vibe. I enjoy every single one. Keep up the good work mate
Side airbags for a car of this size and time is very advanced and impressive
I was just thinking the opposite lol
Was there ever a year of these with the 2.0 cloverleaf but a basic trim level? I can't understand how something small and Italian can get up to 1200kgs?!
@@mattteee2973 Nope - ABS, Airbags, leather interior were all standard.
Especially impressive that most of the time they did not work due to connector problems. Ask me, I owned one. Sweet car, but some nags.
OMG my favourite car ever along side the Punto!! we had a 1.4 twinspark ❤️ thanks for the review 🇮🇹🇮🇹
Lovely! I still really miss my old 145 - mine was the 1.6 T Spark - not as fast as the Cloverleaf, but no slouch, and it still saw off a Golf GTi mk3. It had disks all round, and leather steering wheel and gear knob. All it lacked over the Cloverleaf were alloys, the body kit, air con and of course the 2.0 T spark engine. Those leather seats are tremendous!
i can tell he loves the car by the way he speaks about it you can see the excitement in his face!
i wish you many more happy miles.
Alfa was still suffering from the very poor reputation it gained during the seventies for rust prevention. Or rather that there wasn't any. I would have loved an Alfasud but they just didn't last more than a few years at best. They never really recovered from that in the UK.
Another problem was the dealer network. Firstly, there weren't many and secondly, from my experience of our then local dealer and from that of a good friend in London, they were pretty unhelpful with warranty claims. My local branch was also staffed by some extremely rude people. Not conducive to selling some fairly exclusive cars.
Very sad really as there were many very good Alfas which I would have liked to have had a go in. It's great to see that you found such a good example of one of the best.
The reputation was unjust by this time, they galvanised everything from the 33 on so they were better than alot of rivals but the damage was done in the publics mind. The dealers were variable, one I used to use was fantastic, lovely people and so helpful, GoItalia where I still take this is one of that dealers mechanics.
The Tunbridge Wells main dealer though, awful. Exactly as your friend described. I cant believe they are still going with such bad service
Those Momo leather seats are very, very nice, sir! Very much remind me of the ones in the 166 3.0 Lusso...
I wish it had that engine as well!
@@furiousdriving, don't get me started about the Busso engine! Ever since I drove that 166 with one last year, my life has never been the same. Next thing I know you will be after a pantograph wiper conversion too!
I had a GTV TS and I can vouch for that lovely sounding engine. In fact it was the sweetest 4 cylinder engine I have ever had.
This interior is so retro - unique and beautiful. I think that center console looks better than that on restyling model from 1998.
Imagine wrapping that whole area around airbag with alcantara + door panels 😘
Very nice indeedy. My mate had a 156 2.5v6 with the MOMO interior. My word that interior was a thing of beauty. Stunning.
What a car👍Makes me think of my Alfa 156 1 gen back in the days - Im still missing it ! Despite its technical issues…
Loved my 145 cloverleaf , turquoise blue , tan momo leather interior, high lift cams , an Italian superchip revved to the moon also had a 146ti 👌
The Alfa is a superb and something different. My friend had a few and they are just such appealing cars with so much character! All that space in front of the passenger is brilliant for safety too. Fabulous car - don’t get rid of it ever! This obsession with calling Alfas unreliable is absolutely rubbish.
A 156 was the best car I ever owned, did 150K in it with no trouble, I hate it when people call them unreliable
I agree. Now they are more or less like the others, in the past their refined mechanics (custom-built supercars compared to other cars of the category) required respect from cold start and proper maintenance by valid worshop mechanics
It's quite obvious that you love this car. It sounds lovely and even on video the leather looks really good quality. I've never seen one so thanks for the test. Cheers.
A beautiful car indeed and i just fell in love with it when i bought one, restoring my second one now and its for keeps, that sound awwww
Nice to hear that you WON'T be parting with the Alfa. A really lovely car to be cherished. Great review Matt.
I'm so pleased you reviewed your Alfa I really love that car
I cant believe I forgot to do it sooner!
Actually surprised to find a good modern review about the 145! This car definitely needs more attention, as you said it was one of the best 90's hot hatch when it came out, then the competition got a bit fierce with the Peugeot 306 GTI-6, Xsara VTi and Bravo HGT.
Fun fact, it was originally designed at the Centro Stile Fiat by Bangle as a 5 door hatchbach (like the Tipo) as a proposal for a Mk.2 Lancia Delta. One of the chief designers saw the "breadvan" shaped model coming out from the wind tunnel and thought it looked like an Alfa. The design was then taken to Centro Stile Alfa where De Silva modified it and the rest is history…
Yours looks really good, those leather Momo seats are ace, my favourites after the sport Recaros. I've got a pre-facelift Rosso Cloverleaf with the Recaros hahaha. It's my first car, had it for more than three years now. Such a fun thing to drive, it's no longer that fast compared with modern cars but it has character and personality which is something you just don't get with newer stuff.
Surprisingly were I'm from 145/6s are incredibly common, sadly most of them are quite neglected.
Good video!
Where are you from? Im from Greece and for some weird reason 146 is a pretty common sight but a 145 is extremely rare and even rarer to see in OK condition. I have a dark blue metallic 145 Junior 1.6 TS
This review is amazing. Really shows what Alfa is all about. 145 has always been quite different and innovative, that QV model must be a blast to drive. My parents used to own a 75 2.4 TD and they sold it back in 2006 when I was like 8 years old. To this very day I wish to own some kind of an Alfa Romeo in my life. A 75 would be nice, but, finding one for sale in Croatia where I live is mission impossible sadly because Alfisti really hold on their cars well.
Keep up with the amazing content and amazing cars!
I didnt know they put the 2.4 in 75s! That was a great engine
@@furiousdriving Yeah, the 2.4 5-cyl Turbo Diesel. Made by VM Motori. Ours had around 180 000 miles when it was sold. That thing never left us stranded anywhere. 75 was a true tank of a car with it's sports genes thanks to RWD and transaxle gearbox. But that quirky 80s interior with airplane-alike handbrake and window switches on the dashboard is truly something special as well.
If you somehow get across one for your review, it'll truly be something I am looking forward to. Keep up with great content!
It reminds me so much of the fiat tipo. A car I lived and enjoyed in 1996 I had 1993 white sx1.9TD and it was fantastic.
Beautiful. Just the right amount of balance between sweeping lines and boxy goodness.
I agree. A great mix of 80's boxiness and late 90's curves in one car.
Great review. I had a 156 Sportwagon with the 2.0 TS engine it just got better and better the harder you drove it.
I really joyed watching you really enjoy yourself. Great video. Thanks
I had a 146 Ti. It had the best sounding engine I've ever heard in real life. Only had it for 2 months but it was by far the most interesting car I have owned.
Moving badges with the key hole under them is a feature of a lot of American cars in the 1950's or so.
Had two of these, both diesels, 1.9td and 2.0 jtd, lovely cars to drive. You have to really look after them though, keep an eye on front upper and lower control arms and bushes, they tend to go pretty quickly, and because of those big doors the door stoppers easily break. Air mass meters are fragile, too.
Good video on an often overlooked car.
One suggestion though, when going through the interior and explaining the various parts of it would it be possible to show a cut-away video or a small picture of whatever is being explained more often ?
For example when you were talking about the instrument cluster, seeing a picture of it would really help with the visualization.
I had a year 2000 1.8 TS (one of the last in the UK) in canary yellow from new. I ran it until about 80k miles. Gave it to a friend and regret that decision ever since. Wonderful car and never let me down once. I hope it is still going strong for someone.
try its number plate here and fingers crossed! www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla
Dont appolagies for hooning around. Great video, great car and great backdrop buzzing around NW Kent on an autumn afternoon.
Its a perfect afternoon out
Had one of these back in the nineties Great car spares bit pricey Enjoyed video
BTW, my colleague found out why the front passenger side has this weirdly large cut off the dashboard should you want to know. Also, my one made in 2000 has a great horn and the headlights are extremely powerful compared to other cars of the era. I could go on. Legendary car, the 145 is.
The sound of that engine 🥰
Love Alfa so much, proud to own one.
Highly underrated car.
Good to come home from the NEC Classic Car do today and be met by one of your tests, and watch it with a beer in hand. Also good to meet you in person. I was the bloke who tapped you on the shoulder in Hall 5 or was it 4 ! They all merged into one after several hours
haha Ive no idea which halls I saw in the end! Nice to meet you and thanks for saying hello
What beautiful car. Really love the color and the engine sounds sweet.😀
I remember when these were first launched and I fell in love with them straight away. This metallic blue is the nicest colour they came in. The metallic yellow was really nice too.
Zoe Yellow, I love that, especially on a Spider
My Proteo red looks nice aswell
omg had one like it just without a leather inside. and mine had round vents as I remember. It was joy to drive it.
Awesome car, more videos are very welcome. The 147 and in particular GTA variant were similar in the sense it didn't seem to sell as well as it should.
I love that car. It reminds me so much of the Fiat Bravo HGT I had in exactly the same colour. I loved that car too. I'm rather jealous!
Did drive one at the time, to lease it. Disappointed though- but I could only afford the gutless 1.6. Prior to this the family had a 33, just brilliant to drive and now, in terms of looks , I much prefer the 33 to the 147. I admire you for owning the 147 today with that brilliant engine. What superb condition it is in. Enjoy. Best wishes mark
Nice looking car and nice interior too. Interesting facts too, enjoy!
Great video, lovely motor 😎🤘💥
This family of models (145, 146, 155) was more appreciated abroad than in Italy; the new engines were more appropriate in terms of torque and greater weight of the car compared to the 33, but in Italy the Alfisti went on prefere the previous boxers and their rough (unique) sound.
My Japanese friends said that over there the 145/146 had been more appreciated than that masterpiece of the 147 (they expecially loved the 146; difficult to believe).
However, looked at today, you discover that it is certainly more interesting and perhaps beautiful than its contemporaries
Each generation (33, 145, 147, 159) became more refined and technically better, but lost a little rawness and intrigue, I say this having owned all 4 generations, but are all still more interesting and exciting than anything else on the road
@@furiousdriving True! And congratulations.
Anyway I must say that you have omitted an important conjunction ring of the D class: the Alfa 75.
I have owned 3 since 1990 to 2007 (1.8ie, then a 2.0 TS, then a 3.0 GC) and I think it represents the most beloved model to me. A real surfer on the road, glued to the road with ready and generous engines.
"Bella meccanica, like a Ducati on 4 wheels" told me a German friend, once.
And also it represents a rare case when you better remember the successor of his predecessor, the still good Giulietta.
P.S.
I still remember a unique piece of British journalism, the article dedicated to the 2nd serie 75, Ts and 3.0, appeared on CAR. Two journalists reached Milano by plane and returned back to England on the road driving 2 75s, describing their sensations: like a novel.
I read it over and over again
Lovely! I previously commented on your 145 T shirt in another video a while ago... I have 2 phase 1 QVs that have been off road for a few years and at some point soon, I need to get round to sorting them out! My own personal one, a 97 in that sort of gold tinted silver, needed some suspension, bit of floor and sill welding and brake replacement (now probably a bit more) with 243k miles on! Yes, 243k! Original bottom end in really good condition, replacement head because the previous owner drove it for 3 years with a bad thermostat. I bought it at just over 100k (IIRC) and drove the nuts off it, once warmed and the only time it let me down was a worn out battery! My other 145 is a dark metallic blue that I bought cheap with 108k did a fair bit of welding on and replaced all suspension bushes, but never got round to finish. Booo! :(
The rules for these (and other similar engined Alfas and Fiats):
Check the oil level every time you put fuel in it. Every. Single. Time. Also, read the manual about servicing.
Let the engine and box warm up, at least so the temp gauge is off the pin and on the scale before you nail it (As the Right Hon. Lord Mr Sir Jay Leno says about Italian and most other European cars!)
The driving position is odd. Get used to it. You will, eventually.
Enjoy the sound, the feel, the way that it's quite well behaved until you drop a cog or two and boot it, then it feels wired like it's had a few too many espressos!
Superb car!
Saw one on the Island of dogs London, in yellow. Timeless.
Great vid you realey love that car . Please do one on a gtv 2.0ts
Love the Alfa Quadrifoglio!
Nice...👍 love that TS engine, have had a few Busso’s too and it depends very much on the car which one I’d prefer..
GTV 3.0 it’s Busso every time for me.
In the 916 spider though the 2.0 TS is the one to have, and that 145 and TS are a perfect pairing...
The best hatch I've ever driven, Ever!
Love the Alfa content! I don't think the chap alongside you was giving you the evils, he was just wondering if people who launch into a full blown conversation with themselves should be allowed on the road! 🤣
I had a 1999 145 1.4TS which I bought new. I have driven it till 2014 and made 120tkms. The mileage of my example was relatively low as I haven’t driven it between 2010 and 2014 as I was abroad. That engine never used any oil and requires to be driven hard once engine oil is warm. Maybe it is an issue with QV but mine used almost none. I used always Mobil1 0w40 from the very first day till end of my ownership and changed oil every year.
Looking very dapper this video sir!
Always always loved these. Cloverleaf in particular and you have the choice colour. One thing I have never really liked however is the dash, not the shape, but the switchgear, it's the opposite of the wonderfully appealing exterior. The only thing the MK3 Astra had sorted over the 145 and it was its dash.
Lovely car though, very much a fan of them, they've aged far better than its contemporaries.
I got lucky with the colour, I was looking for a red one again, apparently they sold 3 - yes 3!- in this colour in 2000! Id agree, they've aged really well, alot of contemporaries look really old now, this still looks fresh...but the dash could be more robust!
Recognize a lot of stuff from the period Fiats aswell, like the my utterly fantastic Fiat Coupe 20VT which of course also used that floorpan. (I did change that handbrake handle for a Richbrook alu/leather one).
Also those stalks are identical to those in Fiat Tipo. The fantastic interior space is also typical Fiat Tipo!
Only goes to show how much Fiat/Alfa/FCA has fallen in these latest years.
The weak headlight problem is common to any car with projector lens headlights. I had a Puma 1.7 with dire lights. That was a screamer of an engine btw! I cured the crap headlight problem with aftermarket HIDs on my V50.
But shouldn't projector lens ones be brighter than reflector type?
Used to have a 146Ti with momo leather. Superb car
I miss my 146 :-( It didnt have leather though
Great review. I have a 146 ti as a restoration project and I love the design of it.
Shame the scrappage scheme ate so many of these, they're incredibly rare now.
Tragically rare, are you in the owners group on Facebook?
@@furiousdriving I am, yeah. The 146 isn't seeing much love though because I'm currently working on a broken GT which needs to be my new daily car
Very nice. Underrated. And very nice.
This and the Mazda 323F were literally the only non sleep inducing cars of that era.
I loved my 1995 323f: styling which still looks contemporary, brilliant to drive, over engineered. Fantastic cars for time
Thank you 🥰
This makes me very nostalgic.
I had a 145 1.6TS as my first car. And i still miss it till this day.
It was a perfect first car.
Yours is absolutely beautiful. The color, the leather.. so gorgeous.
What is that color called?
a 145 for a 1st car, thats fantastic!
This is Assuro Fantasia blue
You’re so lucky to still driven the 145, I had it 1998 n was my first car, fun and loved it until I wrecked it due to a sharp 90• turn n gear stucked on 3rd gear on a 160km/h..Yea im walking after but my 145 didnt make it 😞
What a beauty!
Lovely car. Values on low mileage examples have gone way up recently.
Lovely looking car. I've heard of the Alfa Romeo 145, but I've never seen one, let alone a Cloverleaf. :)
I dont think Alfa was selling in the US when this was out, they had some cool looking cars at that time, sorry!
@@furiousdriving The last time I remember seeing an Alfa Romeo here in the USA was in the late 80s. I cannot remember what was sold at the time.
Very nice indeed! Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the last facelift with the original dashboard from the nineties? The dashboard and the inside parts of the doors seem to be the old, pre-facelift design - but with chrome handles :D
yes, UK/right hand drive didnt get the interior update
@@furiousdriving Cool, I didn't know that. It's a pity though for the lack of the AC option.
Can I make a suggestion? When talking about the dash binnacle, or the facelift model, or anything else not in view, show video footage / pictures of them? You're describing these things but you could point the camera at them. Lovely car though!
I think every other item mentioned had a clip
The interior reminds me of the fiat bravo mk1 with that centre heater grill which expands over the dash
That "telephone" rims are sweet and very rare in the 4 nuts configuration!
The vertical part of the center console looks like it came from a different car than the dashboard - notice the join on its left side.
Nice video could you do a car ownership history video ?
I had one of them a few years ago exactally the same. But started developing a bit of a sticky throttle, but was a lovely car to drive.
Did you get it fixed in the end?
@@furiousdriving I did not get it fixed in the end, I just sold it, but for the three years I owned it I only needed to replace one wheel bearing and a back box as it rusted to pieces, wonderful drive and when you was mentioning about the engine noise it is a soulful sound for a 4 cylinder with a raspy note mine only had 54,000 miles on the clock back in 2013 a very well looked after example.
I love my Tipo indicator / wiper stalks, everything became conventional and boring when it evolved into the Brava /.Bravo.
Recommended to warm up Alfa engines properly before driving off...
Speaking of panel gaps, what's going on with the side of the center stack and the dashboard?
Italian '90s panel fit
The huge space in front of front passanger used to be for safety reasons: such a long distance between the dashboard and the passenger was supposed to make for lack of airbag! Of course, in later versions (like this one) a co-driver airbag was intalled, after all!
My ph1 cloverleaf had a three door layout on the Little display.
You have a true radio voice.
I've just checked mine and there are only 2 doors + hatch on the little car image check panel. I suspect yours has been replaced with one from a 146. Great review by the way!
Thats interesting, Ill have to hunt for one of the right ones now, and thanks!
Unless I'm mistaken I don't think you've ever reviewed the 147. Hope to see that at some stage
I appreciate more the model now then at its age
1.7 16V boxer engine was the most fun for hacking around the lanes - although have to admit that the 2.0TS was quicker and much more refined on A roads and the gearbox was 10 x better. The 1.7 had to be revved to buggery to get anywhere - but it would always put a grin on your face.
Most of them came with discs all round. I had a 1.4 ts and it had discs all round.
I love the 145 and yours is one of the best i've ever seen... Unfortunately here in Italy you can't see anymore 45/46, especially the Boxer or the Cloverleaf (here is called Quadrifoglio). One little question, you have changed front and rear bumpers? I ask this because here the facelifted models (from '99 to 2001) have the "modern" interiors
This is standard UK spec - Alfa didnt change the interior on right hand drive cars when they did the Left Hand drive facelift, so we got the new bumpers but the old dashboard!
@@furiousdriving Uh what a strange "Alfa" thing😂😂 I didn't know this
You're right, it is a special car. I've been searching for my next car, and always like having something a bit different and chic too. This car has that in spades. It's definitely on my shortlist. Is it a good every day brief?
If you're willing to look after one then yes and you'll love it but you absolutely have to check the oil all the time and keep up all the maintenance, then it will be a great daily, neglect it and it wont last
@@furiousdriving lovely stuff, thanks for that.
I remember calling the insurance company at 18 getting a quote on liability insurance on a used 145 1.4. Got laughed at through the phone🤣
haha, I lived next door to a guy selling a 33 when I was 20, was going to buy it but the insurance told me to call back in 5 years!
@2:54 The 1.7 l boxer engine was more powerful than the 1.6 l base model of the twin spark lineup. If you fance the boxer engine, there is still a powerful enough version available.
@3:05 Great technology but Alfa's next big move was Multiair technology which is cheaper to produce than a twincam direct injected engine but has basically the same benefits without the drawbacks AFAIK. Even though, neglegiance can kill the unit.
I really enjoyed this vid of the 145 QV :) I owned a 145 QV in that very same colour! Alfa called it Fantasy Blue? Anyway, looks fantastic and the TS is sounding great. Wish I hadn't sold it but, hey ho...
Fantasy or Fantasia, its something like that in Italian, quite a rare colour on these, amazing you had one too!
@@furiousdriving Sure did! It even had a tilt/slide sunroof! I'd add a pic but I'm not sure if that's possible 🙄😂
I still miss mine!
My dream car. I have a 20 years old 145 1.6 with GIALLO ZOE painting. Still very appealing. What really bogs the mind, nobody seems to know who actually designed it.
I mean it. Alfa made a video of Da Silva drawing it in 30 seconds.
Da Silva was head of Centro Stilo, but it was a Bangle project
@@furiousdriving Finally, someone telling me, thank you. I subbed. But then the question still remains: if Da Silva actually drew it, what did Bangle do? Just for enlightening me on this one, I tell you what the cutout in front of the passenger side is for: a girl can easily kneel there in front of you.
You know how you do your work and your boss takes the credit? Thats sort of how car design works, the head designer does a concept and the design team work on it together, Da Silva's name goes on it but you can see Bangle's style all over it.
And, well, it is Italian ;-)
@@furiousdriving Thanks a lot again. I think it is a design that aged very well like fine wine. Fun fact: In Italy, mainly poor people in the south had them, folks in the north drove German cars at the time. I believe it was targeted at women mainly, hence the high seat position (one of the three things I don't like in the 145). Sorry for the lot of my comments.
Strangely enough I saw one of these in my corner of Sussex the other day. I always loved the look of them, but was scared of the huge bills that they can incur.
It always a special moment when you see one in the wild
I have heard horror stories about the reliability of those 16v twins spark engines as they age. That is why when buying my Alfa 155 i opted for the older and slower 8v Twin Spark. The steering on those is quite nice, light, direct, tons of feedback, brakes are great by the standart of the 90s and on the highway feels quite stable at speeds up to 180 kph. When you push it really hard on a twisty road though you get torque steer and lift off oversteer. The plastic details tend to fall apart in your hands (exterior door handles, rear view mirror). All gasoline engines sound great though
I think the horror stories all come down to oil use and lack of maintenance, but its hard to know how well an old car has been looked after. 155 is a great looking car, Id have one in my garage
I miss mine. Whenever I meet someone that has or used to have one they stop to tak with you or just give you thumbs up. The guy that used to do the tires on mine had one as well, and depending on his mood ( i.e. how his Alfa behaved recently) He would say from "You've bought the best car in the world, boy!" and "How many beemer owners saw its rear end today" to "You have bought a very cheap car for very rich people." and "Take this piese of juk out of my sight, it would give me a stroke just looking at it".
Alfa 155 was my favourite moto papa the Square angle look aggressive the body kit was to die for
Id love one of those, totally agree on the square look. A friend has a Q4 155, I didnt know they did one until I saw it
Are we just going to ignore the radio install on such a lovely car?
Yes
I need those seats and door cards!! 😬