This is probably the deepest beatbox video I've ever seen i would try to watch as much the video and try to fix as much mistakes im making with whistle
Thanks man, really nice video! Explanations like this is what beatboxing really needs since it opens up so many ways to experement arround and also adds some good basic knowledge of what we try to achieve. Knowing the mechanics of something is always better than copying it blindly.
god like theory thank you for being you. You are gonna be known as the first real theorist of beatboxing right now beatbox knowledge and beatbox tutorials are few and rarely good so thank you for being so good
This is the video Ive always been looking for, I kept making random whistles to match the instraments I hear since 5th grade and Ivd always wanted to know what specific whistle it is
I learned how to uvula roll and the one where you add a little vocal to string or vibrate your whistle when trying to mimic drums, guitars, and violin sounds when whistling and this really help show me what is possible thank you
Since this video, there's been a lot more Yuki and I have found. At some point will need to make a followup. Hope you'll give that a watch when it's finished. 🙏
Some of the diagrams for the dipole section are incorrect, but the basic mechanism design involving the pit shared between all the diagrams is correct. Good luck!
Hi, I was honored to see myself mentioned in this great video. Don't know what to make of it but it's awesome. To be honest I don't yet understand everything you laid out but it's very motivating. I was wondering if you would have any thoughts on a whistler called Ralph Giese. He has a ton of short videos on TH-cam and he has a very unique palatal whistling style that I'm experimenting with. There's a distinct lack of any whistling resources online for advanced things but I'm hoping your skills could shed some light.
Thank you for the amazing contributions to whistling and beatboxing, I'm happy the video was motivating! Sadly some of the specifics presented are off here, but hopefully the main idea that there's only 3 ways anyone can whistle abstractly got across. If you're familiar with programming, it's like there are 3 interfaces and every whistle implements some intersection of them. Ralph Giese is strong. The timbre and pitch control are phenomenal. His attack is also incredibly sharp. From a mechanistic perspective, it seems he's doing the same whistle as Heartzel, though there are instances where it sounds like the chamber shifts to the alveolar. If you have some free time, I'd be glad to get in touch and discuss more on Discord.
@@sp3ctum Awesome, please feel free to DM me on any of my socials or join my Discord server. Links to all of them are on my channel's About page. I can also DM you if you're comfortable replying with your Discord tag. Hope to get in touch soon!
I can try if enough people ask, but the diagram and dipole explanation from this video should be everything you need. If you just can't get it and have some specific questions, feel free to comment and I'll do my best to answer.
Have you seen/learned the polytonal version of a normal pucker whistle? I've seen a few versions of it, one is where you use your tongue to split the tone and an other was to put your tongue in between your lips and whistle through the corners of your mouth. I haven't seen anybody do it in beatboxing but there's a few videos on youtube of people doing it. Thought it might be interesting.
Glad to hear your interest! I've lost count of how many 2 or 3 note polyphonic whistles with pucker I know now. Yuki was planning to make some tutorials on them, but we've both been quite busy. Fundamentally, it's about constructing chambers with different resonant frequencies and surprisingly overlapping chambers seems to work. Something something differential equations. Feel free to hop on Discord if you'd like to chat in more detail.
Haha, I didn't want to go over 99 techniques. I also didn't include several double note polyphonic whistles, 2 triple note polyphonic whistles, vocalized hollow to D-Low hollow whistle transition, many of Yuki Takeda's techniques, etc.
0:52 sounds like a fax machine lol. Also big respect for pretty much learning every single whistle lmao I’ve thought about doing that but it’s so hard for me, I can only do the basic and inward. Oh also I forgot but I can do harmonic whistles, inward and outward. I think I figured this out on accident lol so I have no clue how I did it or how it works in theory.
Thanks for dropping by. It's sick you figured out the harmonic pucker whistles. It took me a long time to learn them and my pitch is still not great. The whistling community has some monstrous control tech if you're looking for musicality inspiration.
@@DHawkBeats Check out Yuki Takeda's channel. He's 2019 world whistling champ with both musicality and new tech: th-cam.com/channels/B7232L7valKFAiCJwpzmbQ.html I've been watching the 2020 online world whistling championship winners' videos: whistlersguild.org/competitions/gwc-2020/gwc-2020-winners/
Hey harvest, I was wondering if you knew how I can increase my range of sound for whistling. I want to be able to clearly whistle higher and lower notes but can't figure out the configuration of my mouth and tongue to do so
Depends on which whistle and the natural limits of your vocal system. If monopole, it's about increasing or decreasing chamber volume. This affects the resonant frequency similar to how it works with overtones. You may also crack into a higher register as you shrink the chamber, what I called harmonic whistles. Dipole whistles change pitch based on the size of the pit, sadly my diagram had a bug. Also check out Yuki Takeda who's whistle control is insane. Feel free to hop on Discord if you'd like to chat more.
@@kindreon Thank you for your help! When I am monopole whistling and I try to go for a higher note I lose the sound but I don't know if it is because of the airflow, the chamber pocket, or maybe something I am unaware of. How do I figure out what the problem is that is causing my whistle to cut out as I go out of my range.
@@mashiro1679 It's not always possible to isolate a single problem. Maybe play around the border where you lose the pure tone and pay attention to how your chamber changes? If your chamber shape is proper and your airflow is aligned at the right pressure, you basically can't not get a whistle. Let's chat on Discord if you'd like to discuss more. Good luck!
@@kindreon ah I see now. I will try mess with the border of my whistle, in particular, the small chamber and where I push the air so see if I can learn anything new about it. Thank you for being open to call and chat about it but I think I want to try understanding it a bit more before possibly doing that so I don't know what to ask or how to learn from your input. I am very grateful for you time and consideration for helping me learn more about my own whistling ❤️❤️❤️
@@kindreon Hey Harvest, I have been trying to increase my whistle range but to no success. I don't know what I would ask in a discord call but if you think it can help I would love to hear your thoughts!
How is Pacmax's train whistle is gonna work if the top teeth are all the way out and the tounge is inside, when you blow it does not make any windy tone cause there is no edge ( top teeth ) What is the edge for this whistle? The pacmax's train is shown in the video!
Try first getting that "v" or pit shape in your mouth like I showed in the diagram at the end of the section. That's the structural pattern similar to the front whale whistle.
@@kindreon You're a legend for still being here with us. But I still don't really understand the tounge position and how the air travels to create the whistle. I noticed that every dipole whistles need to have a really powerful air source so that it could blow to the bottom lip for the whistle to come out. Does the tounge touch the teeth or hard palate? I'm so confused please, make a tutorial I beg for it!
I don't get how Hacki Tamás whistle, people say it's palatal whistle but it sounds so different, or does it sound different because he's mastered so much of it at an already very young age?
It sounds like the palate whistle to me. His pitch and texture are great, maybe even better than Ralph Giese. Learning this whistle can help with understanding the timbre.
5:29 this is the only whistle I get out of the palatal family. It really relies on air hitting my bottom lip, because if I move it, the tone stops or becomes barely audible. Feel stuck with this
There's actually a twist to the palatal family I missed in this video. Waiting on some free time, but I've got a followup coming up that may help with your stuck.
what about the codfish laser whistle? where does that fall into? it almost seems like a pallet whistle but you have to curl your lips but then it seems like a diapole whistle. im close to getting it but just want to understand it better
i figured it out. i got the whistle but not perfect. its almost like the mika vilpas inward lip whistle but outwards. so i can comfirm the laser whistle is a diapole whistle
i have another question out of a ton i already asked lmao. why are diapole whistles so much louder than monopole whistles? do you think its because of the sink has to be almost perfect and too much air causes it to go away?
Idk if that's necessarily true like vortex is really loud, but I get what you mean. The common pit mechanism for dipole whistles, which I drew a bit incorrectly in the video, seems to allow more pressurized or faster airstreams. I'd guess the greater kinetic energy from the stream then converts to higher wave amplitude or volume.
at 6:32 i do that whistle with the sink between the alveolar ridge and postalveolar slope. the source is in the same spot. is it still the same whistle? im asking because the way i learned it, everyone said it was the ralik whistle as it shows at 6:32 but the diagram is a bit different. kinda just asking for clarification or something like that
That's probably Heartzel's whistle, which some people including Heartzel call the Ralik whistle while DjB3AN calls the one in my video the Ralik whistle. 🤷♂️ Basically there's a more advanced concept here I didn't include. If you'd like to learn about it, feel free to hop into my Discord server and ping in #music.
Maybe eventually. I'm at the end of my double voice tutorial but next are inward bass, pressure theory, and zipper theory so it'll be a while. For now, D-Koy described it as similar to BallZee's tooth laser whistle, but when vocalized or lip rolled it sounds like a tongue-alveolar whistle, so it's confusing since it's easy to unknowingly shift between mechanisms that utilize similar parts. The geometry of their teeth is also somewhat special so a bit of thinking needs to be done.
All I can say is... zipper video when? Jk wow your vids are so informative, kinda overwhelming not gonna lie tho, getting all this info at once haha. But your so eloquent, do you write scripts for these videos? If not im seriously jealous haha. I'm also jealous of your whistles damn, I've never counted how many I can do but its definitely not even half of how many you know haha. Keep it up bro :)
I realized the zipper video needs some theory about pressure, so it likely won't happen for a while with my schedule. For shorter videos like my inward bass or Frosty roll tutorial, there's no script, but for videos with more complex concepts I'll write one. Thanks for the support!
Thanks for watching! I beatboxed for around a year in ancient times, then stopped for a long time, then picked it up again on and off totaling around 4 years now.
It's a monopole whistle through your cheek with what I believe is the Fenetix cheek roll added. You can try the roll with a lot of different whistles too. Good luck!
I have been trying to mimic that whistle, but I don't quite understand both of the sounds that are combined (I haven't found tutorials)... also I can't do understand the scar alien variation of the pinch whistle... could you explain it or make a tutorial for it?😅😅😅 You can so many insane things, that nobody can!!!
@@thecoasterhypers Don't have time now, but it's conceptually similar to the vortex whistle. I believe Inertia sometimes does it. Don't know if Scar is still around, but you can ask him if you see him online.
@@kindreon thank you very much for the diagrams they are Indeed really explicit ! I got the PAC Max whistle only thanks to this ❤️🔥 But while I found it easy to Guess the first steps, particulary how it'll sounds before you get it but when you are on the right tracks, I don't really imagine what kind of airflow do I must apply ? Of will it sounds before getting it ? Thanks for blowing my mind every time I look at this man
I've been trying the ralik whistle for a long time and have zero progress. For some reason, I can do it in the heartzel position but not the "he" position.
Ralik and Heartzel whistles are different. I need to start releasing lower quality videos explaining things quickly. They sound similar because of how the resonance chambers are created.
Hey man, I found your video really interesting. I'm making a kind of catalog of beatbox sounds and mouth techniques in general, so I really hope that you could help me. Could you please send me a list of every whistle that you know about? I don't really care about so much detail, so if you could, instead of writing "pucker whistle vocalized with chest voice, pucker whistle vocalized with falsetto, pucker whistle (...) etc", you can just write "pucker whistle" and move on. I would really, really appreciate it if you could help me, thanks again for the video man, peace.
I've gotten a lot of requests, so I'll add making a specialized tutorial to my list. For now, did you see the PACMax train whistle mouth diagram I included? All the concepts needed to learn this sound and the whistle's design is in this video.
Man, do you guys have some discord server that I can join? I am also trying to get more into whistles, but doing it by myself has been causing some confusion lately, would like some help y'know :)
I'd love to, but I'm too weak and busy now to make over 100 whistle tutorials. Instead, if you learn the concepts I discussed, most of them can be figured out easily. For example, I only knew 4 whistles about 1.5 months before posting this video. 🙂 Trivia: the demonstration stops at 99 techniques because I originally wanted a smaller number for the thumbnail and ran out of beatboxers and animals for names. There's a group of really weird or hard techniques not included like polyphonic Ball-Zee laser or lip warbling inward Heartzel whistle with inward bass. I'm planning to make specific tutorials for these, so I hope you'll watch when I post.
Depends on the whistle. With monopole or mixed whistles, the chamber for resonance can be formed involving your front teeth like with D-Koy's whistle, Ball-Zee laser, tongue-alveolar whistle, higher register of Yuki whistle, etc. A chamber is basically just a way to close off a little pocket of air, how you form that chamber can be done in many ways including using your teeth for one of the chamber walls. Hope that helps!
Bro its been 5 months but I can't learn whale whistle why i watch all the tutorial i am doing exactly the how they say everything mouth position lip position but still can't get it and there other say get it in 3 days
Are you learning the front or side one? The positions are quite different. The side one also has quite weird geometry. Feel free to hop on Discord linked on my channel and post a clip of your attempts for better feedback.
@@kindreon ok thanks I learning from side like I learn all beatbox sounds but I always sucked at beatbox whistle type sound and I can't learn ralik or heartzel whistle like I try strat for 1 hour just keep doing it but can't get it i don't have discord it's ok I be wait for new tutorial to come out
@@werepireYT Check out my whistle measuring video, I show a way you can do a polyphonic lip variation of the side whale whistle. The feelings are pretty similar, so the positioning demo may help. Just replace the upper lip with upper teeth and only go one side for standard side whale whistle. Ralik whistle is really hard to explain without physics though not sure if I'm calling it correctly since for me it's a different whistle from Heartzel so could be a new technique I found. No one seems to be able to do it fully, but I heard someone call a reduced version the Kusanagi whistle. Easiest way to explain Heartzel whistle is basically just do pucker but make the sink between tongue and postalveolar slope instead of lips. Feel free to ping if you get Discord eventually. I can try teaching like 20 other whistles that might be easier for you and still work for your style based on Ralik or Heartzel but didn't show in this video due to trying to keep total techniques below 100. Good luck!
I tried to explain it in the monopole section of the video. It's a very far back palatal whistle with a thickened tongue that creates a polyphonic effect by mouthing "caw" without vocalization.
I come to this video so much wow. I wish I fully knew everything about it. I understand most of the theory, I just can’t do most of the ones you do 😂. I want to get the pacmax one so bad but I just canttttt haha. Help plssss xD
One pattern for many dipole whistles is that sort of "v-shape-pit" design. If you look at the diagrams I showed for the whale whistle, Mika Vilpas lip whistle, and PACMax train whistle, you should be able to notice it. I'd recommend first learning the whale whistle I gave a tutorial for, getting the feel for how the "v-shape-pit" mechanism works, then searching for that same feeling in the position from the diagram of the PACMax train whistle using short bursts of air. It's otherwise quite difficult since the way dipole whistles come together feels different compared to the way monopole whistles do.
@@soma5325 I'm not sure what you mean by top, but the airflow for PACMax's whistle is similar to what's shown @12:12 except the mouth parts involved are what's shown @13:03. Notice how @13:03 the lower lip, tongue, and alveolar ridge form a v-shaped pit. You need to squeeze the stream through that pit similar to how you squeeze the stream through the pit formed by the lower lip, tongue, and teeth @12:12. Try combining what I said here with what I said previously. Good luck!
@@kindreon thanks again for this man I love the physics based approach, I've learned 5 new whistles in the last week just from the principles in this video
@@riro7674 That's awesome! I think your learning rate is actually faster than mine was. 😅 If you get a chance to make a routine, shoot me a link. I'd love to hear it. On a tangentially related note, I just figured out the Show-Go double voice so if that's a sound you're looking to incorporate into your style, I hope you'll stick around for the video.
@@kindreon yeah man as I said love the style so I'd be interested in whatever techniques you're doing, zippers though, really lookin forward to that if you're still thinking of doing it!
I’ve been waiting for this video for 13 years
Level up.
Reeps One 😳😳
@@Immanuel_jijo yo
I appreciate it! 🙏
🖤💣💯
I have never heard the mechanics of whistling explained so thoroughly, excellent video also "whistling isn't genetics, it's physics." is a great line.
Thank you! I appreciate it.
You're insane!!! 😮🔥🙌
Thank you!
Legit he is the real master of whistle !
This is my new favorite video of the internet. How isn't this viral?
Maybe one day. 🙏
Yo these diagrams and the physics is really what I was lacking from every other video about whistling. Thanks!
Sadly there's some mistakes, but glad you like them!
I love you
Yoo bro I'm just curious about the dkoy/ballzee whistle.
THIS SHOULD HAVE MORE VIEWS
GOOD JOB DUD !! RESPECT
This is probably the deepest beatbox video I've ever seen i would try to watch as much the video and try to fix as much mistakes im making with whistle
I appreciate your appreciation. Unfortunately, there's 3 big mistakes in this video. A patch will come out soon!
The real whistle master
Yo Justin Tan !!!
@@Immanuel_jijo Yoo hahaha
Why haven’t I seen this yet, this is incredible!!
Much appreciated!
Amazing tutorial man. Do that zipper one right now can't wait!!
Thanks man, really nice video! Explanations like this is what beatboxing really needs since it opens up so many ways to experement arround and also adds some good basic knowledge of what we try to achieve. Knowing the mechanics of something is always better than copying it blindly.
This is exactly how I feel too! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
god like theory thank you for being you. You are gonna be known as the first real theorist of beatboxing right now beatbox knowledge and beatbox tutorials are few and rarely good so thank you for being so good
I appreciate the view and kind words!
This is the video Ive always been looking for, I kept making random whistles to match the instraments I hear since 5th grade and Ivd always wanted to know what specific whistle it is
Thanks for watching! There's a slight bug with some of the diagrams in the dipole section, but hopefully it was helpful overall.
I learned how to uvula roll and the one where you add a little vocal to string or vibrate your whistle when trying to mimic drums, guitars, and violin sounds when whistling and this really help show me what is possible thank you
Since this video, there's been a lot more Yuki and I have found. At some point will need to make a followup. Hope you'll give that a watch when it's finished. 🙏
Tuorial that I come back whenever I have any difficuties learning a whistle sound.
Thank you for such a good tutorial!!
🙏 There are some small mistakes but hopefully the main ideas got across!
God bless you bro, for the job you've done, shout out from Tajikistan!!
Thanks for watching!
I want to learn these so I can whistle instrauments I could never figure out how to mimick
oh this video is perfect, i was thinking about learning whistle mechanics from a basic standpoint before learning beatboxing whistles
Some of the diagrams for the dipole section are incorrect, but the basic mechanism design involving the pit shared between all the diagrams is correct. Good luck!
@@kindreon okay thanks! I’ll keep that in mind as I read them
dude, could you do the azel whale whistle tutorial please, i actually need a tutorial made by you
This video is legendary, I come back to it very often. Thank you so much for this resource! :D
Watch out for the next version where I've had more than 4 weeks with the techniques!
This is so educational
WHAT THE FUCK ! YOU KNOW ALL THE WHISTLES !!!
Hi, I was honored to see myself mentioned in this great video. Don't know what to make of it but it's awesome. To be honest I don't yet understand everything you laid out but it's very motivating.
I was wondering if you would have any thoughts on a whistler called Ralph Giese. He has a ton of short videos on TH-cam and he has a very unique palatal whistling style that I'm experimenting with.
There's a distinct lack of any whistling resources online for advanced things but I'm hoping your skills could shed some light.
Thank you for the amazing contributions to whistling and beatboxing, I'm happy the video was motivating! Sadly some of the specifics presented are off here, but hopefully the main idea that there's only 3 ways anyone can whistle abstractly got across. If you're familiar with programming, it's like there are 3 interfaces and every whistle implements some intersection of them.
Ralph Giese is strong. The timbre and pitch control are phenomenal. His attack is also incredibly sharp. From a mechanistic perspective, it seems he's doing the same whistle as Heartzel, though there are instances where it sounds like the chamber shifts to the alveolar. If you have some free time, I'd be glad to get in touch and discuss more on Discord.
@@kindreon that sounds great, I'd love to discuss more. I'm in some discord servers but not that familiar with it. What's a good way to contact you?
@@sp3ctum Awesome, please feel free to DM me on any of my socials or join my Discord server. Links to all of them are on my channel's About page. I can also DM you if you're comfortable replying with your Discord tag. Hope to get in touch soon!
Amazing video, this is beyond tutorial level, this is degree level ! Big thank you for this ! 🙏
What a time to be alive
I know this vid is a bit old, but I loved it. I was already a big fan of whistles, but I'm even more interested into it. Thanks !
*MIND BLOWING*
Can make tutorial pacmax train sound full explanation. Plsss 🙏🙏
I can try if enough people ask, but the diagram and dipole explanation from this video should be everything you need. If you just can't get it and have some specific questions, feel free to comment and I'll do my best to answer.
Sounds like my internet was dialing up
I think the same.
Beatnation???
@@jagadadzikrap.1513 thats whats up
What an intro 10/10
Criminally underrated videoo
Have you seen/learned the polytonal version of a normal pucker whistle? I've seen a few versions of it, one is where you use your tongue to split the tone and an other was to put your tongue in between your lips and whistle through the corners of your mouth. I haven't seen anybody do it in beatboxing but there's a few videos on youtube of people doing it. Thought it might be interesting.
Glad to hear your interest! I've lost count of how many 2 or 3 note polyphonic whistles with pucker I know now. Yuki was planning to make some tutorials on them, but we've both been quite busy. Fundamentally, it's about constructing chambers with different resonant frequencies and surprisingly overlapping chambers seems to work. Something something differential equations. Feel free to hop on Discord if you'd like to chat in more detail.
Siiiick video. But you forgot a few whistles
Haha, I didn't want to go over 99 techniques. I also didn't include several double note polyphonic whistles, 2 triple note polyphonic whistles, vocalized hollow to D-Low hollow whistle transition, many of Yuki Takeda's techniques, etc.
@@kindreon Thx for the video, I'm gonna watch this a million times
I love you, make yourself a instagram man
0:52 sounds like a fax machine lol. Also big respect for pretty much learning every single whistle lmao I’ve thought about doing that but it’s so hard for me, I can only do the basic and inward.
Oh also I forgot but I can do harmonic whistles, inward and outward. I think I figured this out on accident lol so I have no clue how I did it or how it works in theory.
Thanks for dropping by. It's sick you figured out the harmonic pucker whistles. It took me a long time to learn them and my pitch is still not great. The whistling community has some monstrous control tech if you're looking for musicality inspiration.
Kindred Harvest Ooh that’s sounds interesting! Are there any videos you recommend for me to check out?
@@DHawkBeats Check out Yuki Takeda's channel. He's 2019 world whistling champ with both musicality and new tech: th-cam.com/channels/B7232L7valKFAiCJwpzmbQ.html
I've been watching the 2020 online world whistling championship winners' videos: whistlersguild.org/competitions/gwc-2020/gwc-2020-winners/
Christmas has come early
Hey harvest, I was wondering if you knew how I can increase my range of sound for whistling. I want to be able to clearly whistle higher and lower notes but can't figure out the configuration of my mouth and tongue to do so
Depends on which whistle and the natural limits of your vocal system. If monopole, it's about increasing or decreasing chamber volume. This affects the resonant frequency similar to how it works with overtones. You may also crack into a higher register as you shrink the chamber, what I called harmonic whistles. Dipole whistles change pitch based on the size of the pit, sadly my diagram had a bug. Also check out Yuki Takeda who's whistle control is insane. Feel free to hop on Discord if you'd like to chat more.
@@kindreon Thank you for your help! When I am monopole whistling and I try to go for a higher note I lose the sound but I don't know if it is because of the airflow, the chamber pocket, or maybe something I am unaware of. How do I figure out what the problem is that is causing my whistle to cut out as I go out of my range.
@@mashiro1679 It's not always possible to isolate a single problem. Maybe play around the border where you lose the pure tone and pay attention to how your chamber changes? If your chamber shape is proper and your airflow is aligned at the right pressure, you basically can't not get a whistle. Let's chat on Discord if you'd like to discuss more. Good luck!
@@kindreon ah I see now. I will try mess with the border of my whistle, in particular, the small chamber and where I push the air so see if I can learn anything new about it. Thank you for being open to call and chat about it but I think I want to try understanding it a bit more before possibly doing that so I don't know what to ask or how to learn from your input. I am very grateful for you time and consideration for helping me learn more about my own whistling ❤️❤️❤️
@@kindreon Hey Harvest, I have been trying to increase my whistle range but to no success. I don't know what I would ask in a discord call but if you think it can help I would love to hear your thoughts!
Been watching a bunch of whistle videos , couldnt manage any, and managed to pull the Ralik Whistle first try lol
You're lucky! This one is hard for many.
How is Pacmax's train whistle is gonna work if the top teeth are all the way out and the tounge is inside, when you blow it does not make any windy tone cause there is no edge ( top teeth ) What is the edge for this whistle? The pacmax's train is shown in the video!
Try first getting that "v" or pit shape in your mouth like I showed in the diagram at the end of the section. That's the structural pattern similar to the front whale whistle.
@@kindreon You're a legend for still being here with us. But I still don't really understand the tounge position and how the air travels to create the whistle. I noticed that every dipole whistles need to have a really powerful air source so that it could blow to the bottom lip for the whistle to come out. Does the tounge touch the teeth or hard palate? I'm so confused please, make a tutorial I beg for it!
I don't get how Hacki Tamás whistle, people say it's palatal whistle but it sounds so different, or does it sound different because he's mastered so much of it at an already very young age?
It sounds like the palate whistle to me. His pitch and texture are great, maybe even better than Ralph Giese. Learning this whistle can help with understanding the timbre.
Nice vedios want more vedios
5:29 this is the only whistle I get out of the palatal family. It really relies on air hitting my bottom lip, because if I move it, the tone stops or becomes barely audible. Feel stuck with this
There's actually a twist to the palatal family I missed in this video. Waiting on some free time, but I've got a followup coming up that may help with your stuck.
Pls a tutorial of dog whistle
Almost there!
@@kindreon Its a thoart whistle whit mouth position?
@@JosephTorres-fh8yn It's a type of throat whistle. Mouth position doesn't really matter.
@@kindreon ty bro i did it
@@kindreon and for the pacmax train need a vocalization
I'm very curious on what to do the whistle using teeth, can you help me?
Hop on Discord!
@@kindreon where's the link or where do i find it?
@@masterauthor It's on my channel's About page.
what about the codfish laser whistle? where does that fall into? it almost seems like a pallet whistle but you have to curl your lips but then it seems like a diapole whistle. im close to getting it but just want to understand it better
i figured it out. i got the whistle but not perfect. its almost like the mika vilpas inward lip whistle but outwards. so i can comfirm the laser whistle is a diapole whistle
Intro was crazy
OMG!!! GENIUS😃❤
i have another question out of a ton i already asked lmao. why are diapole whistles so much louder than monopole whistles? do you think its because of the sink has to be almost perfect and too much air causes it to go away?
Idk if that's necessarily true like vortex is really loud, but I get what you mean. The common pit mechanism for dipole whistles, which I drew a bit incorrectly in the video, seems to allow more pressurized or faster airstreams. I'd guess the greater kinetic energy from the stream then converts to higher wave amplitude or volume.
I’m impressed
Thank you for revolutionizing the hollow whistle!
at 6:32 i do that whistle with the sink between the alveolar ridge and postalveolar slope. the source is in the same spot. is it still the same whistle? im asking because the way i learned it, everyone said it was the ralik whistle as it shows at 6:32 but the diagram is a bit different. kinda just asking for clarification or something like that
That's probably Heartzel's whistle, which some people including Heartzel call the Ralik whistle while DjB3AN calls the one in my video the Ralik whistle. 🤷♂️ Basically there's a more advanced concept here I didn't include. If you'd like to learn about it, feel free to hop into my Discord server and ping in #music.
Great! Wow, a lot of work!
This is CRAZY!!!!
Thanks for watching!
I can do 23 types of whistles bro...
But I can't do the dkoy bird whistle, it's a request from you my bro...
Please make a tutorial on that please 🙏
Maybe eventually. I'm at the end of my double voice tutorial but next are inward bass, pressure theory, and zipper theory so it'll be a while.
For now, D-Koy described it as similar to BallZee's tooth laser whistle, but when vocalized or lip rolled it sounds like a tongue-alveolar whistle, so it's confusing since it's easy to unknowingly shift between mechanisms that utilize similar parts. The geometry of their teeth is also somewhat special so a bit of thinking needs to be done.
@@kindreon thank you man:)
Helpful and very well put video!
how the fuck this only has 3k views? what is wrong with youtube!!??
What does wing uses?? Is it a breathing technique or kinda cough snare??
Not sure what you're referring to.
@@kindreon the plain jane routine? He also uses on the the gbb21
You can check the timing of that video i.e 4:17
maybe some kind of throat whistle
Thanks kindred 😍
All I can say is... zipper video when? Jk wow your vids are so informative, kinda overwhelming not gonna lie tho, getting all this info at once haha. But your so eloquent, do you write scripts for these videos? If not im seriously jealous haha. I'm also jealous of your whistles damn, I've never counted how many I can do but its definitely not even half of how many you know haha. Keep it up bro :)
I realized the zipper video needs some theory about pressure, so it likely won't happen for a while with my schedule. For shorter videos like my inward bass or Frosty roll tutorial, there's no script, but for videos with more complex concepts I'll write one. Thanks for the support!
Omg you are actually so insane man , how long have you been beatboxing for ?😳🔥🔥🔥🔥, btw very useful video thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for watching! I beatboxed for around a year in ancient times, then stopped for a long time, then picked it up again on and off totaling around 4 years now.
Wow I really want to be able to do that mirage whistle! I would want a tutorial on that one please!!
It's a monopole whistle through your cheek with what I believe is the Fenetix cheek roll added. You can try the roll with a lot of different whistles too. Good luck!
Wow, thank you! That whistle is just so harmonic!
I have been trying to mimic that whistle, but I don't quite understand both of the sounds that are combined (I haven't found tutorials)... also I can't do understand the scar alien variation of the pinch whistle... could you explain it or make a tutorial for it?😅😅😅 You can so many insane things, that nobody can!!!
@@thecoasterhypers Don't have time now, but it's conceptually similar to the vortex whistle. I believe Inertia sometimes does it. Don't know if Scar is still around, but you can ask him if you see him online.
@@kindreon very big thank you!!
I can do a ton of basic whistle variations and my ralik whistles are super quiet
and alexinho whistle
Awesome! If you make a routine I'd love to hear it sometime.
Can someone pls expecting how to do the crow whistle
There's a short explanation in the monopole section. Try lining up the mechanism at the back of your mouth with the position I show.
Oh sorry I didn't see it.But thanks to you I learnt 5 new whistle🔥🔥🔥
@@kindreon thank you very much for the diagrams they are Indeed really explicit ! I got the PAC Max whistle only thanks to this ❤️🔥
But while I found it easy to Guess the first steps, particulary how it'll sounds before you get it but when you are on the right tracks, I don't really imagine what kind of airflow do I must apply ? Of will it sounds before getting it ?
Thanks for blowing my mind every time I look at this man
I've been trying the ralik whistle for a long time and have zero progress. For some reason, I can do it in the heartzel position but not the "he" position.
Ralik and Heartzel whistles are different. I need to start releasing lower quality videos explaining things quickly. They sound similar because of how the resonance chambers are created.
Wow! Great!
Hey man, I found your video really interesting.
I'm making a kind of catalog of beatbox sounds and mouth techniques in general, so I really hope that you could help me.
Could you please send me a list of every whistle that you know about? I don't really care about so much detail, so if you could, instead of writing "pucker whistle vocalized with chest voice, pucker whistle vocalized with falsetto, pucker whistle (...) etc", you can just write "pucker whistle" and move on.
I would really, really appreciate it if you could help me, thanks again for the video man, peace.
I won't have time now, but there are a lot of these lists on Reddit you could check out. Good luck!
Can you please do a pacmax train whistle Tutorial :) i dont get it.
I've gotten a lot of requests, so I'll add making a specialized tutorial to my list. For now, did you see the PACMax train whistle mouth diagram I included? All the concepts needed to learn this sound and the whistle's design is in this video.
@@kindreon thanks man. Je i saw it XD and still. I ve been sitting here for more then a month trying it...
Man, do you guys have some discord server that I can join? I am also trying to get more into whistles, but doing it by myself has been causing some confusion lately, would like some help y'know :)
Feel free to hop in whenever:
- discord.gg/AamYsuaJ3w
wait so the pacmax whistle is outward right?
Yup
Yep, there's a diagram for it in the video and various tips scattered throughout.
Good
You should do a tutorial each whistle that u do man.
I'd love to, but I'm too weak and busy now to make over 100 whistle tutorials. Instead, if you learn the concepts I discussed, most of them can be figured out easily. For example, I only knew 4 whistles about 1.5 months before posting this video. 🙂
Trivia: the demonstration stops at 99 techniques because I originally wanted a smaller number for the thumbnail and ran out of beatboxers and animals for names. There's a group of really weird or hard techniques not included like polyphonic Ball-Zee laser or lip warbling inward Heartzel whistle with inward bass. I'm planning to make specific tutorials for these, so I hope you'll watch when I post.
1:02 toturial for the azel whale WHISTLE plsss
Maybe in the future. I've got too many videos planned currently. Thanks for watching!
10:15 is the whale whistle
Thanks bro I just want to learn whale whistle
How does the front teeth affect this?
Depends on the whistle. With monopole or mixed whistles, the chamber for resonance can be formed involving your front teeth like with D-Koy's whistle, Ball-Zee laser, tongue-alveolar whistle, higher register of Yuki whistle, etc. A chamber is basically just a way to close off a little pocket of air, how you form that chamber can be done in many ways including using your teeth for one of the chamber walls. Hope that helps!
Bro its been 5 months but I can't learn whale whistle why i watch all the tutorial i am doing exactly the how they say everything mouth position lip position but still can't get it and there other say get it in 3 days
Are you learning the front or side one? The positions are quite different. The side one also has quite weird geometry. Feel free to hop on Discord linked on my channel and post a clip of your attempts for better feedback.
@@kindreon ok thanks I learning from side like I learn all beatbox sounds but I always sucked at beatbox whistle type sound and I can't learn ralik or heartzel whistle like I try strat for 1 hour just keep doing it but can't get it i don't have discord it's ok I be wait for new tutorial to come out
@@werepireYT Check out my whistle measuring video, I show a way you can do a polyphonic lip variation of the side whale whistle. The feelings are pretty similar, so the positioning demo may help. Just replace the upper lip with upper teeth and only go one side for standard side whale whistle. Ralik whistle is really hard to explain without physics though not sure if I'm calling it correctly since for me it's a different whistle from Heartzel so could be a new technique I found. No one seems to be able to do it fully, but I heard someone call a reduced version the Kusanagi whistle. Easiest way to explain Heartzel whistle is basically just do pucker but make the sink between tongue and postalveolar slope instead of lips. Feel free to ping if you get Discord eventually. I can try teaching like 20 other whistles that might be easier for you and still work for your style based on Ralik or Heartzel but didn't show in this video due to trying to keep total techniques below 100. Good luck!
@@kindreon love u brother thanks for help i watch your video i will soon learn it give me good luck
i checked the video u show i did the same but can't get it and yeah i decided to make a discord and join but phone camera is trash so how do i do it
best video i have ever seen thanks
0:40 I can hear it is there something wrong with me
It's usually easier to hear if you're younger.
Sick
13:00
mirage whale whistle? i need to learn that
It's a sort of hollow cheek whistle plus the Pash laser oscillation except on the upper lip-cheek area rather than lower. Good luck!
Es una locura cuantos silbidos controlas :0
How to do it the crow whislte??
I tried to explain it in the monopole section of the video. It's a very far back palatal whistle with a thickened tongue that creates a polyphonic effect by mouthing "caw" without vocalization.
@@kindreon :0, it's outward?
@@silaestigarribia It's outwards.
Your videos are amazing, could you do one on zippers, I would love to see your point of view on this :)
Soon I hope. The zipper video needs some context but been too busy recently.
damn so hes the father of whistles
Omg
Love you Kin🥰🤣
I do a hollow whistle by sticking out my folded tongue and blowing. Does anyone else do this?
Could you share a video, using beatbox.sh for example? There's a few hollow whistles where the tongue sticks out.
The way you talk makes me think you're a physics major
Physics is cute
I know some of these whistles :()
I come to this video so much wow. I wish I fully knew everything about it. I understand most of the theory, I just can’t do most of the ones you do 😂. I want to get the pacmax one so bad but I just canttttt haha. Help plssss xD
One pattern for many dipole whistles is that sort of "v-shape-pit" design. If you look at the diagrams I showed for the whale whistle, Mika Vilpas lip whistle, and PACMax train whistle, you should be able to notice it. I'd recommend first learning the whale whistle I gave a tutorial for, getting the feel for how the "v-shape-pit" mechanism works, then searching for that same feeling in the position from the diagram of the PACMax train whistle using short bursts of air. It's otherwise quite difficult since the way dipole whistles come together feels different compared to the way monopole whistles do.
@@kindreon does the airflow only go through the top? as it shows at 12:12 is that the same concept of airflow?
@@soma5325 I'm not sure what you mean by top, but the airflow for PACMax's whistle is similar to what's shown @12:12 except the mouth parts involved are what's shown @13:03. Notice how @13:03 the lower lip, tongue, and alveolar ridge form a v-shaped pit. You need to squeeze the stream through that pit similar to how you squeeze the stream through the pit formed by the lower lip, tongue, and teeth @12:12. Try combining what I said here with what I said previously. Good luck!
you God 🙏🤙🤙🤙😁
Either you are too smart. Or I'm just stupid 😂
Jesus. You can really whistle.
I went nuts for a few months lol.
@@kindreon thanks again for this man I love the physics based approach, I've learned 5 new whistles in the last week just from the principles in this video
@@riro7674 That's awesome! I think your learning rate is actually faster than mine was. 😅 If you get a chance to make a routine, shoot me a link. I'd love to hear it. On a tangentially related note, I just figured out the Show-Go double voice so if that's a sound you're looking to incorporate into your style, I hope you'll stick around for the video.
@@kindreon yeah man as I said love the style so I'd be interested in whatever techniques you're doing, zippers though, really lookin forward to that if you're still thinking of doing it!
What the helll!!!!!!!!, 🔥🔥🔥😮😮😮😮
Beatboxer Here ??
Esh
There's a variation of a hollow whistle i can do that you didn't ;3
damn :)