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Favorite Katara moment she isnt even talking in the scene. It's when Sokka is explaining to Toph that Katara has always been there for him so much that when he tries to remember his mom, Katara's face is all he can see.
Not really since Katara looks like a spitting image of their mother. Also it;s not an age thing, she's a motherly figure no matter how old she is. After their mother died not only did Sokka have to step up as a man, Katara had to step up as the motherly/healing position. Neither of them are old enough to remember their mother.
It's unfortunate but it's reality. Without pictures or voice recording, after the years go by, you forget what your loved ones looked and sounded like.
If you don't have video/audio of people that will actually happen. It's a sad reality. That's why you gotta take initiative and save your favorite moments with your loved ones. You'll know when they hit.
So true. My grandmother who was like a second mother to me passed away a couple years ago. I am so happy I have a video of her laughing at a Snapchat filter. Hearing her laugh is the most amazing sound.
Why can’t we Jus get more seasons of avatar cuz the legend of Korea was good but I wanted more of the Anng and Katara love story and watch them grow up more
Katara and Aangs friendship and relationship gave me a standard for what I like. They’re so kind, patient, understanding and compassionate. Even when one acts up or needs help the other is there to balance them. I’m so glad I had the privilege of growing up on this cartoon: I rewatched it on Netflix and the ending scene made me cry. I had the most intense feeling welled up in my chest. Just pure happiness. Pure love. I miss that, and rewatching it reminded me of what I value in a partner and a person. Thank you Avatar the Last Airbender 🙏🏽
i'm genuinely just curious, i understand the Aang part of the equation, but when has Aang helped Katara calm down when she "acts up" as you said? i can't recall. just when she insulted Pakku, and when she blamed Toph. both times Aang told Pakku/Toph "she didn't mean that". so i'm not sure if i'm missing something...
@@vic3041 In terms of "acting up" I guess katara doesn't really have those moments. But for the sake of the point, when Katara is blood thirsty for revenge, Aang tries to let calm her down and show her that revenge isn't the right option. Even though Katara didn't calm down/ listen in that moment he tried to calm her down, but everything he said did hit her in the moment she had the choice to kill the man who killed her mother. She literally did what he said "let your anger out and then let it go." Writing this out makes me realize how Aang knew what Katara needed to get her catharsis, VS how Zuko was more so fueling her blood thirsting nature with the situation (and if she did kill that man I have a feeling Katara would've went on to regret it to some degree). Also not that you're saying this (at least I don't think you are) but even though there may be a lack of times Aang got opportunities to calm Katara down they still balance each other and bring the best out of each other. Perhaps later Aang got more chances to help out an "acting up" Katara but also Katara is probably one of the most grounded members of the group also is the most nurturing one out of the group. ( sorry for the long reply :D )
@@mrgassmask i totally get you now, i can see where you're coming from, thanks. disagree on the zuko part though, he never fueled anything, but agree to disagree. (dw it wasn't long!)
Fun fact: my family is Inupiaq and my mom's mom would tease her that she would end up with a white guy and blue-eyed babies. My dad is white and I do have blue eyes and so my family has always jokingly called me the "blue-eyed eskimo." A major reason I love the Avatar world is that the Water Tribe is made entirely of blue-eyed eskimos like me ^-^
Hikari Showers the original creators are doing it with Netflix, it’s gonna be a series not a movie and they will explore the universe well and better than the movie did , it’s still in early stages for production you can just search “live action avatar Netflix “
I have two moments if you don't mind. The Painted Lady: Katara felt so strongly about saving the village in that river that she was willing to risk jeopardizing Sokka's plan to help them. In the end, the spirit she impersonated even came out to thank Katara. Katara vs. Azula: What I loved so much about this was that Katara didn't win through brute strength, she won through really creative thinking. It was a huge gamble to pull off against an insane firebending during an event where firebending is enhanced, but it pulled off.
zhaoyun255 I don’t think Katara can blood bend in daylight. She gets her strength during night time when the moon is present. As evidenced by the only two times she blood bended - they were both at night.
@@TheDuckLamb Actually, the scene showed you the fullmoon scene before her departure when I watch the episode again. She did not bloodbend her mother killer. Only the general at night of the fullmoon during Katara revenge episode.
You can honestly say the same for someone like Iroh. From a distance he seems like just a funny mentor with a good heart, but if you look closer, you see a man who lost his son, trying to make up for all his misdeeds in the past. Similar to Katara who looks like just a normal nice girl with a little attitude from a distance. But I’m reality is a girl stricken with grief and hatred towards a nation that has been destroying her life since she was a little girl. A girl who grew up fearing the fire nation and its presence, but ultimately one of the key components to taking it down.
Lol I only just realized why the fire nation was taking all the water benders. If the air bender avatar died he would become a water bender and everyone thought he was dead
It might also be why Zuko was concentrating his efforts around the South Pole. It was possible for the Avatar to be born into the Northern Water Tribe, but they were still unassailable at that point.
If you ask me she is hypocrite.....she was ok with aang land being modernize but as soon as her land was going through same process she began having second thoughts....a pure hypocrite person
There are honestly just so many great Katara moments throughout the series. 1. Katara calming Aang out of the Avatar State for the first time in The Southern Air Temple. 2. Her fight against Pakku where, despite her inexperience, holds her own quite well against a master like Pakku. 3. Her completely wrecking every single student in Pakku's class. 4. Her fight with Zuko as she's protecting Aang when he's in the Spirit World. 5. Her calming Aang out of the Avatar State (again) in The Desert. 6. The entirety of The Southern Raiders 7. Outsmarting Azula 8. Threatening to kill Zuko if he ever betrays them or hurts Aang.
Not to mention the moment when she’s in the water and Sokka is telling Toph about how he pictures Katara every time he tries to picture his mom and of course the final kiss scene with the sunset.
@@chipperdrewski I'm not sure I can chalk the Sokka and Toph talk as a Katara moment, as Katara, while present, doesn't do anything except listen, and they don't even know she's there. Yes, they do talk about her, very highly and it does speak a lot about her character, but I mainly considered actions or moments she was directly involved in. And while a satisfying end to the series (and a personal favorite of mine if not for the sole purpose of it pissing off Zutarians), again, I'm not sure I can put that as a solely Katara moment, even if she does initiate the kiss.
I was NOT ready to almost cry SEVERAL times watching one of your videos, but I regret nothing. I forgot how damn much I love Katara and I am so glad the writers gave her some worthy development after the tv show ended.
I can relate heavily to Katara. I am the oldest in my family, and one of the handful of people left who knows how to make and prepare one dish my mother's Tribe traditionally ate in the spring and summer My grandma was the one who taught me, and had planned to teach me more. But then she died... On my father's side, only a few of us still make and prepare porcupine quill jewellery and embroidery in the traditional manner. My paternal grandmother has an exhibit in the Smithsonian, and passed before I was born. Yet. I am meant to continue living in this modern world. Holding onto the tiniest scraps of information I have been given, from my parents people's, and the effects of colonization and efforts to have us assimiliate. Its something I struggle with. How much to keep, how much to let go...
I don’t know if you will respond but cling to as much of your culture as possible. It is beautiful and we are in a time where native tribes are growing in number after oppression for hundreds of years. I’m not native but I see it as that you should construct a way of life which while still accepting technological advancements still has its own roots and keeps traditions.
10:04 I don't think I've ever heard Katara ever call someone "sweetie" and not mean it mockingly. I can't even hear her say it in my head, it sounds so odd.
Well, the comics literally make Katara, Aang, and Toph go way OOC. For one, Aang allows himself to kill Zuko if he turns too much into the fire lord, which seems stupid to me especially considering that he wouldn't even kill Ozai. Katara just follows Aang around and doesn't get to become her own character until North and South, and I wouldn't necessarily blame their relationship, rather I blame the writers. Plus, Toph says that she needs a minute to breathe. WTF. Toph is the greatest earthbender alive and she can't hold her stance for a minute? I hated some of these comics for ruining some of my favorite characters in media
my only complaint with the comics is that aang and katara literally call each other "sweetie" almost every time they address each other. it bothers me because i think it's very unlike them and i also dont like generic couple nicknames personally anyway. i usually just replace it in my head with the other's name. i like the way their relationship has continued in the comics though. it's clearly present when theyre together but hasnt become a focus. i really hope they dont have some kind of generic relationship rough patch arc just for the sake of an easy story conflict.
DELETED ACCOUNT I think the graphic novels actually work out pretty well as a little bridge between tlok and atla because in the sequel we didn’t learn nearly enough about what happened with the old gang. But in the novels at some point almost every main character got their own little story and in the tales and adventure ones we even got to learn more about some more miniscule characters but yeah they was definitely on something when they made toph stop and catch her breath Lmaoo and Aang and Katara’s relationship just reminds me of middle/ high school puppy love which I guess in a way it was lol. The promise that Aang made I think heavily relied on Roku and him still being pressed over his mistakes in his lifetime and Aang didn’t want to make the same mistake and possibly cause another war but in the end knew that Zuko would never turn out like his father or grandfather.
The mischaracterization at parts is what makes the comics unreadable for me; while the themes and handling of some of them are pretty good, I've tried reading some and the characters just seem off. Of course they change over the course of the show, but there are definitely moments where it feels the writers weren't true to the characters we see in the show, making their actions and manerisms in the comics seem odd.
My favourite katara moment is the third episode? Forgot which episode it was exactly. when aang is at the air temple furiously in the avatar state after seeing the skeletons of his people, and katara comforts him and tells him “we’re your family now”... it’s not a moment a lot of people remember or prefer over some of the other katara moments but that moment really makes me feel something different... she keeps to her word. They did become aangs new family, her and Sokka. This scene teaches us a lot about katara’s chatecter
I think the Avatar series is so great because it shows us our anxieties and problems in a digestible manner. We're currently dealing with genocide, nationalism, and modernization colliding with tradition. It's a great show.
@@mitonaarea5856 This is a doozy but please read it because I'll bet you get yelled at about this question too often and it feels really unfair. There's a terminology problem over what people think you're asking. There's been an active campaign to redefine "Nationalism" in political terminology over the past few years. Although Patriotism and Nationalism frequently appear as Synonyms in a dictionary, the implications in political thought are not identical. The political definition usually describes a sort of 'Adversarial tribal exceptionalism'. eg: "My Nation is beset upon by outsiders wanting to take our land and destroy our customs" "Our way of life is a shining example to the world of what true morality and virtue looks like." And, "Though we must sometimes dirty our hands with bloodshed, OUR battles are defending the righteous path and saving those among other cultures who could be good people but haven't had the chance to know our Way" This almost inevitably becomes a Religious, Ethnic and Linguistic identity issue (which was closer to the meaning of the word Nation than the modern Country/Nationstate) Even if the original rallying point was neutral in that sense, like 'Christendom' usually meaning 'Europe' or even less inherently exclusive, the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights being viewed as an explicitly *Anglo-Saxon Protestant* point of pride. Traditional Nationalism can get worrisome in the best cases because it focuses on the idea of historic struggle between one particular identity and its neighbors, almost always as a zero-sum game. The true horrors come when Nationalism surges in a place with several otherwise-integrated populations, who may have viewed themselves as a single tribe until a new or resurgent 'National Identity' becomes important. That's when concepts like purity and traitors take center stage. The revised concept; eg: "I am proud of my people and my history." "I feel camaraderie with other citizens of my Nation-State and I support our collective fortunes." "We of this region or territory are all in this together" That is not a bad thing at all. It can sometimes morph into bad things, like traditional Nationalism, but it's fundamentally uplifting and interweaving for the people who feel it with one another. Traditionally this would be more associated with "Patriotism" If you mean the second concept, nothing at all is wrong with that save for the risk of certain mutations of that feeling to guard against. People who have problems with Patriotism are usually concerned with the actions of a particular government or believe that territorial identities need to be broken down in order to prevent War or alleviate suffering over resources. When people online talk about 'Globalists' they usually mean these folks The people who get disturbed when you bring up Nationalism as a good or neutral concept are using the *first* definition. To them it seems like you're predicting/advocating a "Clash of Civilizations" where certain Religions, Languages or Ethnic Groups, (even if it starts as "citizens of a country) are inherently adversaries and need to seek the destruction or subjugation of other groups that *MIGHT* pose some threat. I hope that makes sense. A lot of political conversation has been corrupted these days by contrary definitions and total misunderstanding. (even if they would have disagreed regardless it matters we know where our disagreement actually exists ^_^) Do keep an eye out though for certain people trying to confuse the two ideas. There has been a deliberate push to confuse "Nationalist" ideas and policies as "Patriotic" ones to make people who are proud of their country and history feel attacked for that by having them use a word that *feels* no different. Thus understandably pushing them toward people with darker ideas for support against the apparent unfair backlash over their benign and reasonable feelings.
One thing I like about these comics is Sokka’s reaction to the technological advancements. As opposed to Katara, he’s excited about the possibilities. Perhaps because he relates to people like Satoru and Maliq as non benders. He was never attached to the idea of bending like Katara was since he’s not a bender. Thoughts?
That's basically it. That's also why Sokka liked the mechanist adding technology to one of the Air temples and as shown in that episode with the Mechanist's son, tehnology gives Non-benders abilities that can rival benders, making them more equal. Just like how the Mechanist's son could then fly in the air just like the air nomads.
The scene of Sokka talking about not remembering his mom's face really strikes a cord with me. After my dad died I would sometimes call my parents place when I knew no one was home to hear his voice on the answering machine. I cried after my mom moved and realized I I'd never hear him again
When I was much younger and when I originally watched Avatar, I remember always feeling pangs of hurt when I watched that scene. As a kid, I never saw my father much and as such I couldn't ever really remember what he was like even though we lived in the same apartment. We slept in the same room even and yet, I couldn't ever remember what my father looked like. He woke up before I did and left before I woke up. When I got home from school, he wouldn't be home either. I just had the house key so I could get into the house after he left again. My mother was always busy working so I could never fault her. My father however, didn't work and yet he was always gone. He would always be at a relative's house or just out on a walk and yet he was never home. Now that he is older I get to see him more and we've bonded so to speak. Yet, if someone was to ask what my father looked like when I was in my early teens and younger? I wouldn't have remembered what his face looked like. Albeit after all this time, I still remember the first person to treat me like a son. I only knew him for a year before his death but I remember his face better than I could ever remember my actual father's. It has been over ten years since he died but I still remember him better. Funny how that is. It's funny in a slightly dark way how two people could have such different thoughts on their fathers. My condolences.
The fact that the daughter of a fire bender and earth bender is so set on "always being loyal to the fire nation" shows the problem...She should have wanted loyalty to both
euga yet that is also something we can see in this world. An Asian who marries a Westerner- usually the children are expected to prefer one identity identity as superior, and usually that’s the western one irrespective of which parent is the westerner. It’s more rare for the couple to raise a family with equal space for both heritages.
Being loyal to the Fire Nation to her was no in conflict with her eathr bending roots. It was more so with the idea that an earth bender should be loyal to the Earth Kingdom which is not neccesarly true. I would even argue for their independence at this point they were not Fire Nation or Earth Kingdom but they created their own identity, culture, political system and even economical resoruces not found anywhere else. But to her she was a citizen of the Fire Nation that happened to be an Earth Bender.
As someone of mixed asian and white descent, specifically Anglo-Korean it’s not that simple. My loyalty and allegiance is to the USA and God almighty, not to the UK or South Korea It’s easy to act like it can be equal and fair, but people of a homogeneous nature don’t understand the identity crises that mixed people go through
She grew up in a Fire Nation household, living under the law of the Fire Lord. This was also in one of the earlier colonies, the ones established decades before the extermination of the Air Nomads. (The 100 Year War was actually closer to 150 years long, but round numbers are catchier.) The prohibition on earthbending we see in newer colonies or more recently conquered territories simply isn't present because you have earthbenders being born to loyal colonial Fire Nation families. Most, or anyone, in those early colonies who are of Former Earth Kingdom ethnicity are loyal to the Fire Nation, largely because any disloyalty would have been removed several generations ago. They would also have a degree of loyalty because that's how they grew up, in the localised peace after the war moved on from conquering their part of the world. Most of them would simply be loyal to their city and province, which is part of the Fire Nation, therefore they are loyal to the Fire Nation. There is also the factor that the Earth Kingdom does not having the same level of cultural homogeneity as the other Nations or even the same level of baseline loyalty to it's central government. This is discussed in examining the worldbuilding of the Earth Kingdom and how extreme their decentralisation of governance is. This is so extreme that there is no uniform judicial system between provinces and even a second Earth King in Omashu who's "kingship" over that province isn't challenged by the Earth King in Ba Sing Sae, who himself only appears to have direct control over the province of Ba Sing Sae. The Earth Kingdom as seen during the time of AtLA is by no means a unified kingdom, which considerably lowers the bar for changing loyalty away from it.
Katara did have a good stance on things because we know later on in the Korra series that the sacred Southern Water Tribe rites that had been forgotten due to the war and industrial development of the tribe ever since had left their local spirits dissatisfied and turning dark and malicious, which spilled out with horrible consequences by the time Korra was an adult.
This really made me think about the role of power (literal, in this case) when it comes to tradition. To Katara, her bending defines her, and that ability in turn defines her to her world and her people. But someone like Sokka, does not have access to that same cultural identifier, and one wonders how much that would change his perspective on what makes his culture unique. If it is water-bending, above all else, that defines a person from the Southern Water Tribe, how then do those without that talent define themselves within their culture? Bending may be more elegant, but it is also inaccessible to a large portion of the population, through no fault or lack of will of their own. Doesn't it add in a bit of an odd dynamic when those who benefit most from the "new" ways are also those who historically had the least access to the "power" of the old? And is that a subversion of our world, where so often those who already have power are positioned to best exploit the new ways of the world?
The sponsor plug starting at 26:36 was ingenious. Rarely am I ever entertained by compulsory advertising done in videos, but this genuinely made me laugh. Props for making not only the video entertaining, but the sponsorship as well. Never a dull moment with your vids. Keep up the stellar work Tim!
sadly very little of Sokka is known, since he is not in Korra, and is not mentioned in any of the four seasons apart from one scene were all we know is he became a member of the Republic city coucil.
In HFM's video about the Cabbage Economy, he talks about how Sokka helps develop modern technology. Apparently, he becomes Chief at one point and faces (The Anarchist, I haven't watched the show yet, so I don't know his name) with Zuko etc. about ten or so years before LOK actually begins, protecting the young Avatar Korra.
So 'North and South' is sort of the opposite to the Shire in Peter Jackson's LotR or at least a happier 'Scouring of the Shire'. Instead of coming back to what you remember, what you were fighting for and not being able to fit back in due to the outside world's effects on the you, Katara has come back to her home to find that the outside world has arrived before her and she has to come to terms that she doesn't fit in because of the world's influence on her Shire.
Katara was amazing, she was determined to learn water bending and never wavered. She's so underrated, if it wasn't for her getting angry at Sokka after he made a sexist comment "Leave up to a girl to screw things up" in the beginning of Book one, then her emotional outburst would've never happened and she wouldn't have freed Aang from the iceberg. This girl is so strong willed, started out as a timid girl who was the only waterbender in her tribe who self taught herself the basics and grows tremendously throughout the series. She learned defense, combative, healing and many other tricks that aided Team Avatar. Without her, Aang would've died in the end of Book 3, she legit saved the world with her courage, love and dedication to bringing peace. She deserves a damn statue dedicated to her in Legend Of Korra. This fierce woman is a warrior, mother, sister and a loveable character who inspires a lot.
The "modernization" of the Southern Water Tribe (and many real life native tribes) is rather interesting. You've giving a culture technology hundreds of years ahead of their own, without giving their culture and way of life time to naturally integrate it into how they do things. Their being told how it should be done, without being able to develop their own way. Is it wrong to withhold the technology that would unquestionably improve their way of life? Or is it wrong to risk destroying their cultural identity with technology they aren't culturally ready for?
Think of it like this. Say the Aztec empire never fail and continue to this day. There's that chance they would have kept up with the rest of the world and the same people who cut off people's heads to please the sun would suddenly have air planes and working toliets. But there that chance that they wouldn't they would continue to follow their culture even to this day. Which makes them more easier to attack and destoy. With people like Napoleon and Hitler coming along 200-400 years after they orginaly fail. The heavy advancement in tech would cause the Aztecs to fall anyways. It was the differences between the Aztec empire and the Spanish that caused them to fall in the first place. The only way the Aztec empire Could have surrived even bigger invasion forces and or new morden equipment they would have to modernize themselves. Firstly the military so they stand a chance at fighting Back but doing this they will see how easier it is to do things in the new morden way. They would start to import these methods into non military things and before you know it their customs and culture would be lost all because of the fear that someone would march on their doorstep. The Aztec empire surviving would also change many events here in the states. With the war we fought with the Mexicans that gave us multiple states the Aztec empire would still fight but if they were just as militaryly advanced as when Cortez showed up that war would have ended differently. It was thanks to Mexico being what it was that gave them that fighting chance. Fighting the US would result in the Same thing Cortez did. Expect giving that the Mexican American war was a little over a years ago the Aztec culture wouldn't be as lost as it is to day. To answer your question. It honestly depends if your culture and way of life preventing you from having the ability to fight back and risk the destruction of your own people than you would have to stop and think about what's more important a culture without people to embrace it or living people with a lost culture? In this moment modernizing and being able to fight to defend not only home but your culture is the only way you can preserve it. It's sometimes best to live to see another day than to fight and no one live at all. The way to keep your culture alive is to teach it to the young so that people who prefer using Machines to wash their clothes can do but people who still liking Washing their clothes in the lake can do so as well. Let people have the option to embrace the culture they know or the ways of the morden world. To answer your last question let's use the Aztec empire again. Again they stood tall to the day but they keep their way of life and culture. One day say the us trys introducing these people a cell phone. Just the shock of the cell phone doing all the things it would do would cause Angy amount them. Those who want to give the modem ways a try and those who don't. This would cause in fighting and perhaps war. The Aztec empire went from what Mexico is now to where Nevada is and all the land in-between. And we are lead to believe even spreading to the other nation's in central America. The answer to your question depends on the location of the less developed culture in question with the US still being bordered to the Aztec empire the Aztec people will be aware of such things like planes or cars Because they would see and hear them. They would live as the Amish do aware of the morden world but choosing to live by their lifestyle and way of life. Forcing the change would damage them while them slowly learning about it and adjusting to themselves is a whole different story.
@@ben_dover97 assuming the Modern Aztec empire doesn't do a USSR and prevent people from learning about advancements in technology (excluding the steamships and such)
To summarizes Zero's thoughtful and insightful but extremely detailed long answer, should you (future readers) be the sort to get a bit lost in it, as I am -- . "To answer your question. It honestly depends if your culture and way of life preventing you from having the ability to fight back and risk the destruction of your own people than you would have to stop and think about what's more important a culture without people to embrace it or living people with a lost culture? In this moment modernizing and being able to fight to defend not only home but your culture is the only way you can preserve it. It's sometimes best to live to see another day than to fight and no one live at all. The way to keep your culture alive is to teach it to the young so that people who prefer using Machines to wash their clothes can do but people who still liking Washing their clothes in the lake can do so as well. Let people have the option to embrace the culture they know or the ways of the morden world... The answer to your question depends on the location of the less developed culture in question with the US still being bordered to the Aztec empire the Aztec people will be aware of such things like planes or cars. Because they would see and hear them. They would live as the Amish do aware of the morden world but choosing to live by their lifestyle and way of life. Forcing the change would damage them while them slowly learning about it and adjusting to themselves is a whole different story..."
I'm in the process of watching Avatar: The Last Airbender for the first time because you hold this series in such a high esteem. Thanks Tim for encouraging me, and others I'm sure, to watch this amazing series!
Being Native Alaskan, I'm just so bummed out over the fact my culture being exactly this with totem poles, spiritual understanding but without the "eskimo" coats. I'm Tlingit, this is something that is still very real up here. Where most Tlingits who are fully understanding in our way of life, refuse to share as opposed to those that don't know and just don't care because we're just trying to keep up with the rest of the world with "memes and vines" and just ridiculous social interactions as such. What I hate is how many of these shows that represent Alaskan Natives, its only the Athabaskan, yupiks chupiks and so on that are sharing theirs and are vastly more represented being the face of Alaska even though Tlingits had so much power. So with that, why I always get bummed out, not over the misrepresentation of Natives, but the reason behind the misunderstanding because I know if only one my elders spoke over the specifics in our culture I'm sure our amazing Traditions would be shared further and ensured a future.
@@matteblack2391 if my comment is something that warrants sarcasm then I dont see it considering the thousand others so if you're doing so as a joke I assure you my intention was to share only facts and my opinion on them.
@@stoagymahalo5268 If I understand you correctly (And I'm sorry, I'm not even on the same Continent, so I don't know your People story) is that among other reasons your culture is "forgotten" it is also because of the fact that "Your People" (I hate writing that way, but English isn't my first language - no offense meant) decided to not share and partially Integrate and be allowed to tell your story as well as not being keen of telling it themselves? Of course this is only one of many ways your culture has suffered, but I ask if I understood you.
The Tlingit's are closer in culture to the Indigenous tribes and clans in western Canada. It's too bad that the Alsakan panhandle became part of the US as Alaska probably wouldn't have been as colonized as it is without access to the lush Tlingit territory. I'm Tsimshian and the reason why our nation formed was to build alliances to repel Tlingit raiders. Indigenous culture is extremely hard to integrate into capitalized cultures as it has different economic principles. The successful bands here in Canada still remember and practice their old ways but run their territories as businesses and distribute their wealth equitably to band members.
// 랄프 쥐 //// ラルフ 鼠 // I don’t think Netflix was at fault mainly because the original writers didn’t want to continue with another season. They stuck with the movie and we know how that went lol. Anyways, what Netflix is doing is hopefully gonna be better than the trash that was the live action movie, we’re just gonna have to sit and wait for now.
I actually see some relevancy of katara's story in america. Because i'm familiar with it, I'l give the basics. It can be synonymous with the Native American removal, and cultural "integration." Many constantly feared for their families, most lost some, like katara with her mother. Many thought of the Native American people as brutish, simple, and lesser, despite the fact that they had intricate cultural heritages, beautiful art, and an intimate spiritual connection, all of which are similar in Avatar's southern water tribe. The north can be a metaphor for the rich and wealthy oil men and natives, who decided to take more land for their own gain. The only saving grace is that we are now making up for this, trying to preserve the native culture and trying to find the dying arts of their heritage. This is so similar to the story of Katara, it hurts. I just realized it when he mentioned Oil, as that was one of the biggest drives for the second wave of American expansion.
This is so deep 😶 man katara got SERIOUS character development good on the writers 👏 she faces complex questions with complex answers but they make her grow as a person and I love it.
This really hits home for me. Living as a Korean-American, I struggle with getting respect with conformity. As someone raised in a Korean household and some Christian values, living without drinking alcohol or smoking or even doing certain things makes me feel marginal... I'm always treated as a foreigner or a weird person, and if I do not conform to others outside then I'm not worthy or normal.
It would be cheesy for me to say enjoy being different, but its true. You can have peace they will never know. I am a loner, and an outcast too. I know I will eventually find one or more person to be with and that's what we should want. We can't have a lot of people superficially loving us but we can have some people deeply caring for us more than they will ever have. And I think that's more important and worth it. You will find peace brother. InshAllah.
@@KaiserStormTracking Have you seen anyone in the Gaang get married on screen? And Varrick is a rich man and he's the one that must be organizing the wedding. We never see how Katara and Aang get married, we only know they have 3 children but never seen their wedding on screen. Later, we see Aang's son, Tenzin already has 3 children and later the fourth. We also never know who's Zuko's wife. Toph has Lin and Suyin by two different men. Lin's father name is Kanto but we barely know who's Suyin's father. And last but not least, we never know what happen in Sokka in Legend of Korra besides of the flashbacks of Yakone's trial.
lol through the whole video it kept really reminding me of the struggles of an aboriginal australian, its nice to see how much this guy understands how people from a dying culture sees the changes in the world
Can you please make a video on how escalate and de-escalate character abilities so that a writer can give character new abilities without have too many or out classing the supporting characters?
Great video, and answering one of the pinned questions, yep, Southern Raiders was not just the top Katara moment for me, but the moment that made me go "Oh...this already good show is actually REALLY good." (Well, maybe Tale of Iroh did that first, but this hammered it home). I've tried to explain to people who've never seen the show just what a strong character moment that episode is, and they often seem kind of baffled that a show on Nickelodeon would've covered such ground. It's not just that Katara grows to develop a handle on her trauma and to trust someone she very recently saw as an existential threat to her and her loved ones, it's that the episode goes out of its way to demonstrate that Katara is *not* fully over her pain: Aang, who as the Avatar and member of the Air nomads often serves to embody a lot of the show's morality and philosophical outlook makes clear that it's important to forgive and to let go as a means of truly moving on and living our best lives...and yet Katara straight up admits it: she'll never be able to forgive her mother's killer. It's a perfectly understandable feeling, of course, but given how she's often depicted as part of the show's moral center alongside Aang it hits hard to hear her say that there's this dark part of her that she'll never really get past. To have a nominal "cartoon for kids" go some place like that with a character that in previous TV generations likely would've been forced by the network to always take the most moral stance in all situations is a truly striking, humanizing moment.
The leaders of the world are too focused on whats going on right now. If they were wise and brave they'd cast aside differences and bloody histories of ages gone by and all come to agreement and not provoke each other. But reality is not that simple and in this ever changing modern world of ours negotiations and business must come before all else. Other wise economies would wane and the balance of power would shift. The Cold War did much to shape the geo-political landscape and gave way to a system of balance that in my opinion is very dangerous and that is nuclear deterrence. While we can say nuclear deterrence has prevented another massive World War in the last 70 years. It has undoubtedly made partnerships and alliances harder. The US and Russia, are still at odds to an extent, although not as intense as it was during the Cold War but the Cold War only fueled distrust among the nations that opposed each other. I'd like to say the situation is better today but as history shows, today's ally is tomorrows enemy. Time marches on and with it so too the ways of the world.
I loved this series growing up and now as a globalization/global studies major in uni. I still find it so fascinating how much the show relates to our world today, especially the things you have mentioned in this video and Katara's dilemmas. I really love the analysis and thought you give in your videos!
Man, this is deep. I need to read these comics. I appreciate how it retains the nuanced complexity and honesty of the show. It really does reflect the reality in which we live. It's completely true that we are currently living in a world shaped by globalization and globalism, and there are those who want to march forward with that at any and all costs, while there are others who want to preserve their values and identity and maintsin their sovereignty and independence. The right-wing nationalist, populist and traditionalist moviements and sentiments growing in the US, UK, Italy, Poland, India, Japan, Brazil and so that oppose these opposite, progressive, globalizing forces very much reflect the kind of struggle between globalization and traditionalization as depicted in the Avatar universe. It's actually quite amazing how insightful Katara's personal journey very much reflects the struggles and challenges that are coming to define the world as we know it today.
Its not just that but it also the conquering and setting outher nations back ..people who can't compete or who are oppressed and traditions and beauty of nations are literally forgotten and dismissed. Like the southern water tribe was always regarded as nothing but no one knows much about them but then what really loved about avatar is that the very next avater comes out of the souther water tribe .this is why i always loved korra .also the other water avatar was from the south and they are known for being humble yet mighty worriers, those with high moral standards and compassion. They are the most human people in the show. Even the northern water tribes had very little regard for spirituality but had so much tradition instead. They were cold unlike the south..also korra season 2 have them so good advantages haha
12:26 oml that bit where Tim (I'm guessing unscripted) explains why that scene hits home, and just the look on his face and in his eye was just breathtaking
I had a HUGE crush on Katara when I was watching this show as a child, and so I'm very much afraid to watch this video because I fear I'll fall in love again
You should do a video about Katara’s relationship with Aang from beginning to end and how it progressed the way it did and why it ended with them together.
This hits home so hard My culture has been completely ripped from the memories of most of my people No one in my family speaks our heritage language. We are modernized and living well off, more so than we have ever done in history. In a time of post colonial peace we are now allies with our former enemies. But our culture has been permanently fractured. We are alive but have no idea what the past was really like
as a north african, having to live in the shadows of what colonialism and new religious identities have done to us (denying our existence and being completely racist to us in our own lands ) i feel you.
As a Mexican-american, I understand what you mean. We're rather simple, holding on to having fun and working, despite being descended from civilizations that brought war and conquering. Being in a world of modernization when you live so simply yet well-off is honestly... Confusing. I'm not sure how to explain it, but it's like being a fish who's content in a bowl of water, and then being dumped into the ocean. Our heritage isn't lost for the most part, but it's certainly changing, and I fear that the simplicity of life isn't enough for the ever changing world of western civilization.
@@dianabaldovinos7974 I wasn't specific about my word. What I mean to say was the next one in cycle After Korra.. the legend of the person after Korra.. a new avatar. Then a avatar after that.. which would be an earth bender.
GREAT VIDEO!!!! I already loved Katara as a character, but it’s awesome to hear that they’ve been giving her such a resonant character arc. Thanks for making this.
This video was brilliant. Covered every note it needed to for Katara's known story after the events of the show. I've read all the comics and I actually want to reread them all again while looking at each character on their own. I never made the connections between the different comics and how her story unfolds after the war, but this video helped me to see her story in a new light.
I've really loved a lot of your videos, but I think this has to be one of my favorites, if not one of your best. I love how you are basically using Katara and ATLA as a case study for the world we live in. It's very powerful and illustrates how storytelling allows us to better understand ourselves. Reminds me of Tolkien's mythopoeia and his idea that fantasy is escapism for the right reasons.
Oof... Anyone else flinch when he mentioned the "Southern Reconstruction Project"? Different contexts, but I'm sure the American writers knew what they were doing... And yes, I know these are old comics and I'm probably late to the discussion, but yeah, haven't been able to keep up with the comics...
Now that you think about it, that arc does draw some allusions to post civil war reconstruction, but the twist in the avatar world is that this reconstruction led to more north and south tension and ultimately led to the Water Tribe Civil War, which led to a southern victory a reverse on the American timeline, oh and also no slavery.
Honestly, I can't help but be *very* uncomfortable with the messages of North and South. The new architecture and the cultural institutions (compare the dinner party in the end of the first season of ATLA with what we see here) take way too much from Western/American rites, especially in the context of "rebuilding" a culture that's heavily based off of *the Inuits*. While it is debated enough throughout the comic and we're not given any explicit, objective answer, almost every plot point's conclusion (whether by accident or by pure belief) gives the perspective Katara and Gilak share-- respect for traditions-- way too little legitimacy in comparison to Sokka/Toph, who never really have to face the issues/existence of the idealistic "future" they're imagining in the same way Katara does. Oh yeah, Malina looking quite white in appearance and creating this almost gender-reversal Pocahontas story doesn't help either.
When katara went to visit her mother’s grave I think it would have been nice if they had katara make a rose or flower from ice with her water bending. I think that would have been really visually and emotionally appealing but I still it’s nice she had flowers to put on her mothers grave
It really speaks to the talent of the writers and the quality of the show that a character like Katara continues to have such a beautiful character arch. In any other show, she could so easily have been written off as "the love interest", and, now that Aang got her, faded into obscurity, only resurfacing once in a while for a love triangle. Love Avatar and our supreme leader Miscka
So surprisingly, I can explain the flowers. The village has been modernized. Someone would have realized that flowers would be very valuable in that area and have been making a profit on transporting and selling flowers. Also, I love your videos, recognize me supreme leader Mishka. also, I probably spelled that wrong, sorry :3
I was like "Okay I'm done watching the video 30 minutes after its released thats pretty fast" and then you just popped up from the lower edge of my screen being like "how l8 r u m8? HAH"
Thanks for this bc I didn't even know there was this much story after the anime ended. I like how she struggles with her past just as the water element is associated with past and emotions. A reminder to flow in the present reality and not be attached to whats been lost.
Do the postwar video! Seriously. This was one of the most interesting and thoughtful pieces on the complexities of these subjects I’ve encountered. And I say that as someone whose job includes thinking through this biz! If you have the patience, and haven’t read them already, I highly recommend Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri’s Quadrilogy (Empire, Multitude, Commonwealth, and Assembly) that looks at these issues from our contemporary perspectives, thinking through strategies of resistance as creative, inclusive, integrative counter-globalization to globalization as a homogenizing force. I honestly detect influences of their thinking across these comics.
The phrase "they forget to preserve what matters" is honestly a great way to put it. Even when not during times of conquest, be it due to disease or natural disaster or just the gradual shift of culture over time, things are lost by the people. Specifically things that weren't documented at first because everyone knew them already. Sure they "matter" but bc they already are known by everyone it isn't "important." It only becomes important once people realize how much their identity (or their survival) is tied to it. The problem arises bc usually that realization comes too late.
the avatar universe has so much depth. i can sympathize with katara, losing ones culture is the most terrifying thing. once its lost it can never be found and its a fear that eats me up and a fear archaeologist have too. i love history...i love it so much to the point i have tears in my eyes. culture plays a huge part in peoples lives, it what we go home to, it what makes us feel warm and happy and content. its the same feeling if very memory every story is burnt to ashes. like losing a loved one. it truly break my heart.
I know your comment is a couple years old, but I have to say that while I really enjoy Katara's character, her issues surrounding loss and identity are something that haven't always been apparent to me. I've watched the entire show at least 3 or 4 times now... The entire lore behind this franchise is just amazing in more ways than one, even if I can't connect to all of it personally. I guess this disconnection that I still feel sometimes comes from me being adopted at a young age and having spent most of my life in the states. Just knowing that the world of Avatar is based on Asian origins is really fascinating to me, and I guess this also explains why I continue to be drawn to it as an Asian American.
Air bending Subskill : Flight, Astral projection/Connecting to the spirit world (and fart bending??) Water bending Subskill: Ice bending, Healing, Blood bending, Oil bending, Mud bending, Vine bending, Steam bending and Flight? (thru water molecules or vapor in air) Earth bending Subskill : Metal bending, Lava banding, Mud bending, Crystal bending, Glass bending, Sand bending and Flight (thru dust bending that I saw from Avatar Kyoshi's mentor) Fire bending Subskill : Lightning bending, Combustion/Explosion bending and Flight What else?
@@Luka1180 I can already tell such a video would be controversial. You say that you loved their relationship, whereas I felt it was forced and awkward in comparison to her chemistry with Zuko.
Hi Tim, I just wanted to pop in and say, that you are a really inspiring person and Fire my Love for Avatar with every Video! And I wanted to ask where you got that beautiful worldmap of atla behind you? Love to know, Love you and all hail Mischka!❤️
Loved your video! I read up to North and South Part 3 too, but I wanted to hear your opinion on it. It would be interesting to hear how these themes relate to New Zealand culture and the Maori. I'm from Mexico, and choosing what to preserve from our past and what to let go is definitely a very difficult thing to do. Our love and respect for nature and different native traditions is something we have a constant struggle with, since our government has sometimes failed us in regards to protecting it. But I think that constant struggle has helped us preserve so many of our jungles and forested areas, and because of this we have not ravaged the land like the USA or Australia did so long ago.
I’ve always thought of Katara as the main character of the show. Obviously Aang was the main focus, but we see everything through her eyes. She’s also the one who narrates the theme song. But I feel like the show always took extra effort to show her development, whether it be her Waterbending or just her personality in general. When the show started, she was barely able to Waterbending, as well as barely being able to control her emotions. Her emotions got the better of her a number of times. By the end, she was a master water bender, one of, if not the best in the world. She was a prodigy on the same level as Toph & Azula, only she didn’t have any way or anyone to train her. Toph learned from the original earrhebenders, the badgemoles. & Azula, being royalty in the fire nation, got the best fire bending training one could ask for. As well, at the end Katara was able to control her emotions & stay calm in situations that she wouldn’t have been able to before.
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2. What is your favourite Katara moment in her story and why? Mine is the Southern Raiders because I see it as the pinnacle of mature storytelling in ATLA (see my video on the Cycle of War).
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Hello Future Me more Mishka videos!
Edit: All hail supreme leader Mishka!
My favorite was when she was in the southern raiders
Hello Future Me great
What happened to Socka ( spelled his name wrong) after the war
What's the name of the comic volume you used as materials for the video?
You know it's a good show when people are still talking about it in depth nearly 15 years later. I can't believe it's been that long...
Coe T. Holy shit I just realized it has been basically 15 years
Omg
Damn didn't even realize
I'm pretty sure Netflix is making a live action reboot
Omg wtf its been 15 years???????
@@kaylatran4820 .... *Thats not good.*
Favorite Katara moment she isnt even talking in the scene. It's when Sokka is explaining to Toph that Katara has always been there for him so much that when he tries to remember his mom, Katara's face is all he can see.
that doesn't really make sense considering hes TWO years older then her or thereabouts.
Not really since Katara looks like a spitting image of their mother. Also it;s not an age thing, she's a motherly figure no matter how old she is. After their mother died not only did Sokka have to step up as a man, Katara had to step up as the motherly/healing position. Neither of them are old enough to remember their mother.
Wind Sage Dragon dude you dont get the meaning of the scene,
The Objective Geek she was nude in that scene owo
What happened to sokka in legend of korra ?
I cried when Sokka said he doesn't remember what his mother looks like :(
It's unfortunate but it's reality. Without pictures or voice recording, after the years go by, you forget what your loved ones looked and sounded like.
If you don't have video/audio of people that will actually happen. It's a sad reality. That's why you gotta take initiative and save your favorite moments with your loved ones. You'll know when they hit.
So true. My grandmother who was like a second mother to me passed away a couple years ago. I am so happy I have a video of her laughing at a Snapchat filter. Hearing her laugh is the most amazing sound.
Why can’t we Jus get more seasons of avatar cuz the legend of Korea was good but I wanted more of the Anng and Katara love story and watch them grow up more
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Katara and Aangs friendship and relationship gave me a standard for what I like. They’re so kind, patient, understanding and compassionate. Even when one acts up or needs help the other is there to balance them. I’m so glad I had the privilege of growing up on this cartoon: I rewatched it on Netflix and the ending scene made me cry. I had the most intense feeling welled up in my chest. Just pure happiness. Pure love. I miss that, and rewatching it reminded me of what I value in a partner and a person. Thank you Avatar the Last Airbender 🙏🏽
bruh, lmao
i'm genuinely just curious, i understand the Aang part of the equation, but when has Aang helped Katara calm down when she "acts up" as you said? i can't recall. just when she insulted Pakku, and when she blamed Toph. both times Aang told Pakku/Toph "she didn't mean that". so i'm not sure if i'm missing something...
@@vic3041 In terms of "acting up" I guess katara doesn't really have those moments. But for the sake of the point, when Katara is blood thirsty for revenge, Aang tries to let calm her down and show her that revenge isn't the right option. Even though Katara didn't calm down/ listen in that moment he tried to calm her down, but everything he said did hit her in the moment she had the choice to kill the man who killed her mother. She literally did what he said "let your anger out and then let it go." Writing this out makes me realize how Aang knew what Katara needed to get her catharsis, VS how Zuko was more so fueling her blood thirsting nature with the situation (and if she did kill that man I have a feeling Katara would've went on to regret it to some degree). Also not that you're saying this (at least I don't think you are) but even though there may be a lack of times Aang got opportunities to calm Katara down they still balance each other and bring the best out of each other. Perhaps later Aang got more chances to help out an "acting up" Katara but also Katara is probably one of the most grounded members of the group also is the most nurturing one out of the group. ( sorry for the long reply :D )
@@mrgassmask i totally get you now, i can see where you're coming from, thanks. disagree on the zuko part though, he never fueled anything, but agree to disagree. (dw it wasn't long!)
Right🥺 That's why I'm Kataang all the way
Fun fact: my family is Inupiaq and my mom's mom would tease her that she would end up with a white guy and blue-eyed babies. My dad is white and I do have blue eyes and so my family has always jokingly called me the "blue-eyed eskimo." A major reason I love the Avatar world is that the Water Tribe is made entirely of blue-eyed eskimos like me ^-^
Cool fact, thanks for sharing!
@backwoods dweller get out
@backwoods dweller No one asked, it's a public comment section and people are free to share opinions and stories.
So what you are saying is, the chances of you being a waterbender are above 0?
That's pretty cool
Still mad they didn’t make this an animated movie or a tv special
??you didn’t hear ? It’s coming in live action series to Netflix!!
frank heathersu Garbage
@@frankheathersu9790 The comics?
@@frankheathersu9790 when did you hear this? I'm curious
Hikari Showers the original creators are doing it with Netflix, it’s gonna be a series not a movie and they will explore the universe well and better than the movie did , it’s still in early stages for production you can just search “live action avatar Netflix “
I have two moments if you don't mind.
The Painted Lady: Katara felt so strongly about saving the village in that river that she was willing to risk jeopardizing Sokka's plan to help them. In the end, the spirit she impersonated even came out to thank Katara.
Katara vs. Azula: What I loved so much about this was that Katara didn't win through brute strength, she won through really creative thinking. It was a huge gamble to pull off against an insane firebending during an event where firebending is enhanced, but it pulled off.
And I'm surprised Katara didn't resort to Bloodbending vs. Azula. Powerful foe like Azula required drastic measure.
zhaoyun255 I don’t think Katara can blood bend in daylight. She gets her strength during night time when the moon is present. As evidenced by the only two times she blood bended - they were both at night.
@@TheDuckLamb I was about to say the fullmoon night but you edited it.
zhaoyun255 I’m not sure she needs to have the full moon to blood bend since she blood bended the Southern Fire General without the full moon
@@TheDuckLamb Actually, the scene showed you the fullmoon scene before her departure when I watch the episode again. She did not bloodbend her mother killer. Only the general at night of the fullmoon during Katara revenge episode.
Katara is one of those characters who seems bland and uninteresting on the surface, but in reality is extremely complex and wonderful.
most boring people are interesting, because they've overcome most of their issues and problems and are trying very hard to be a better person
You can honestly say the same for someone like Iroh. From a distance he seems like just a funny mentor with a good heart, but if you look closer, you see a man who lost his son, trying to make up for all his misdeeds in the past.
Similar to Katara who looks like just a normal nice girl with a little attitude from a distance. But I’m reality is a girl stricken with grief and hatred towards a nation that has been destroying her life since she was a little girl. A girl who grew up fearing the fire nation and its presence, but ultimately one of the key components to taking it down.
I hated Sokka and katara st first but now I only hate Sokka
@@checkit6894 no one hates Sokka, how can u?
Katara is actually my favorite character. She's caring, motherly, protective, but also somewhat impulsive, sharp-tongued.
Lol I only just realized why the fire nation was taking all the water benders. If the air bender avatar died he would become a water bender and everyone thought he was dead
Oh I just realized that
yes, they say that in the show.
It might also be why Zuko was concentrating his efforts around the South Pole. It was possible for the Avatar to be born into the Northern Water Tribe, but they were still unassailable at that point.
Ooooh, if anyones interested, Super Carlin Brothers made a very interesting video about that!!
True so he would not master water bending
Guy : What happened to Katara after The Last Airbender????? 'o'
Katara : *w a s c o n f l i c t e d*
ChocolatBownie “The Boulder feels conflicted”
@@chloe1227 after arc: the boulder is less conflicted
We can all agree that Katara is an amazing character
Darth Noòx and has an amazing ass
Much better than Sakuras bum ass
Katara was an excellent character
every character in atla is amazing. the show had some of the best character development i’ve ever seen
If you ask me she is hypocrite.....she was ok with aang land being modernize but as soon as her land was going through same process she began having second thoughts....a pure hypocrite person
There are honestly just so many great Katara moments throughout the series.
1. Katara calming Aang out of the Avatar State for the first time in The Southern Air Temple.
2. Her fight against Pakku where, despite her inexperience, holds her own quite well against a master like Pakku.
3. Her completely wrecking every single student in Pakku's class.
4. Her fight with Zuko as she's protecting Aang when he's in the Spirit World.
5. Her calming Aang out of the Avatar State (again) in The Desert.
6. The entirety of The Southern Raiders
7. Outsmarting Azula
8. Threatening to kill Zuko if he ever betrays them or hurts Aang.
MetallicaRules several points were made lmaooo
Not to mention the moment when she’s in the water and Sokka is telling Toph about how he pictures Katara every time he tries to picture his mom and of course the final kiss scene with the sunset.
@@chipperdrewski I'm not sure I can chalk the Sokka and Toph talk as a Katara moment, as Katara, while present, doesn't do anything except listen, and they don't even know she's there. Yes, they do talk about her, very highly and it does speak a lot about her character, but I mainly considered actions or moments she was directly involved in.
And while a satisfying end to the series (and a personal favorite of mine if not for the sole purpose of it pissing off Zutarians), again, I'm not sure I can put that as a solely Katara moment, even if she does initiate the kiss.
What about her fight with hama
When she went to the general that killed her mom
I was NOT ready to almost cry SEVERAL times watching one of your videos, but I regret nothing. I forgot how damn much I love Katara and I am so glad the writers gave her some worthy development after the tv show ended.
Siri, play "Mia Khalifa"
Daww, Katara makes us all want to tearbend.
Fucking same
I can relate heavily to Katara.
I am the oldest in my family, and one of the handful of people left who knows how to make and prepare one dish my mother's Tribe traditionally ate in the spring and summer
My grandma was the one who taught me, and had planned to teach me more. But then she died...
On my father's side, only a few of us still make and prepare porcupine quill jewellery and embroidery in the traditional manner.
My paternal grandmother has an exhibit in the Smithsonian, and passed before I was born.
Yet. I am meant to continue living in this modern world. Holding onto the tiniest scraps of information I have been given, from my parents people's, and the effects of colonization and efforts to have us assimiliate.
Its something I struggle with. How much to keep, how much to let go...
@Aura Clan I can neither confirm, nor deny such.
But I do love water
@@colleennewholy9026 you can deny it bc u cant lmao
@@haru_mieko1231 because in real life. You really can't. Unless you have a water hose.
I don’t know if you will respond but cling to as much of your culture as possible. It is beautiful and we are in a time where native tribes are growing in number after oppression for hundreds of years. I’m not native but I see it as that you should construct a way of life which while still accepting technological advancements still has its own roots and keeps traditions.
How old ru
10:04 I don't think I've ever heard Katara ever call someone "sweetie" and not mean it mockingly. I can't even hear her say it in my head, it sounds so odd.
In my head it sounds like if my mom called me that
Well, the comics literally make Katara, Aang, and Toph go way OOC. For one, Aang allows himself to kill Zuko if he turns too much into the fire lord, which seems stupid to me especially considering that he wouldn't even kill Ozai. Katara just follows Aang around and doesn't get to become her own character until North and South, and I wouldn't necessarily blame their relationship, rather I blame the writers. Plus, Toph says that she needs a minute to breathe. WTF. Toph is the greatest earthbender alive and she can't hold her stance for a minute? I hated some of these comics for ruining some of my favorite characters in media
my only complaint with the comics is that aang and katara literally call each other "sweetie" almost every time they address each other. it bothers me because i think it's very unlike them and i also dont like generic couple nicknames personally anyway. i usually just replace it in my head with the other's name.
i like the way their relationship has continued in the comics though. it's clearly present when theyre together but hasnt become a focus. i really hope they dont have some kind of generic relationship rough patch arc just for the sake of an easy story conflict.
DELETED ACCOUNT I think the graphic novels actually work out pretty well as a little bridge between tlok and atla because in the sequel we didn’t learn nearly enough about what happened with the old gang. But in the novels at some point almost every main character got their own little story and in the tales and adventure ones we even got to learn more about some more miniscule characters but yeah they was definitely on something when they made toph stop and catch her breath Lmaoo and Aang and Katara’s relationship just reminds me of middle/ high school puppy love which I guess in a way it was lol. The promise that Aang made I think heavily relied on Roku and him still being pressed over his mistakes in his lifetime and Aang didn’t want to make the same mistake and possibly cause another war but in the end knew that Zuko would never turn out like his father or grandfather.
The mischaracterization at parts is what makes the comics unreadable for me; while the themes and handling of some of them are pretty good, I've tried reading some and the characters just seem off. Of course they change over the course of the show, but there are definitely moments where it feels the writers weren't true to the characters we see in the show, making their actions and manerisms in the comics seem odd.
My favourite katara moment is the third episode? Forgot which episode it was exactly. when aang is at the air temple furiously in the avatar state after seeing the skeletons of his people, and katara comforts him and tells him “we’re your family now”... it’s not a moment a lot of people remember or prefer over some of the other katara moments but that moment really makes me feel something different... she keeps to her word. They did become aangs new family, her and Sokka. This scene teaches us a lot about katara’s chatecter
That’s the second chapter (third episode)
Book 1 episode 3
The southern air temple, book1
LapisGuy Growtopian24 well it became true when they merried
Its me! Sauron nah I think they became his family way before that
I think the Avatar series is so great because it shows us our anxieties and problems in a digestible manner. We're currently dealing with genocide, nationalism, and modernization colliding with tradition. It's a great show.
Is nationalism a bad thing?
@@mitonaarea5856 when that creates division, then yes.
@@mitonaarea5856 Do bears poop in the woods?
@@mitonaarea5856 This is a doozy but please read it because I'll bet you get yelled at about this question too often and it feels really unfair. There's a terminology problem over what people think you're asking.
There's been an active campaign to redefine "Nationalism" in political terminology over the past few years. Although Patriotism and Nationalism frequently appear as Synonyms in a dictionary, the implications in political thought are not identical.
The political definition usually describes a sort of 'Adversarial tribal exceptionalism'.
eg: "My Nation is beset upon by outsiders wanting to take our land and destroy our customs"
"Our way of life is a shining example to the world of what true morality and virtue looks like."
And,
"Though we must sometimes dirty our hands with bloodshed, OUR battles are defending the righteous path and saving those among other cultures who could be good people but haven't had the chance to know our Way"
This almost inevitably becomes a Religious, Ethnic and Linguistic identity issue (which was closer to the meaning of the word Nation than the modern Country/Nationstate)
Even if the original rallying point was neutral in that sense, like 'Christendom' usually meaning 'Europe' or even less inherently exclusive, the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights being viewed as an explicitly *Anglo-Saxon Protestant* point of pride.
Traditional Nationalism can get worrisome in the best cases because it focuses on the idea of historic struggle between one particular identity and its neighbors, almost always as a zero-sum game. The true horrors come when Nationalism surges in a place with several otherwise-integrated populations, who may have viewed themselves as a single tribe until a new or resurgent 'National Identity' becomes important. That's when concepts like purity and traitors take center stage.
The revised concept; eg:
"I am proud of my people and my history."
"I feel camaraderie with other citizens of my Nation-State and I support our collective fortunes."
"We of this region or territory are all in this together"
That is not a bad thing at all. It can sometimes morph into bad things, like traditional Nationalism, but it's fundamentally uplifting and interweaving for the people who feel it with one another.
Traditionally this would be more associated with "Patriotism"
If you mean the second concept, nothing at all is wrong with that save for the risk of certain mutations of that feeling to guard against.
People who have problems with Patriotism are usually concerned with the actions of a particular government or believe that territorial identities need to be broken down in order to prevent War or alleviate suffering over resources.
When people online talk about 'Globalists' they usually mean these folks
The people who get disturbed when you bring up Nationalism as a good or neutral concept are using the *first* definition. To them it seems like you're predicting/advocating a "Clash of Civilizations" where certain Religions, Languages or Ethnic Groups, (even if it starts as "citizens of a country) are inherently adversaries and need to seek the destruction or subjugation of other groups that *MIGHT* pose some threat.
I hope that makes sense. A lot of political conversation has been corrupted these days by contrary definitions and total misunderstanding. (even if they would have disagreed regardless it matters we know where our disagreement actually exists ^_^)
Do keep an eye out though for certain people trying to confuse the two ideas. There has been a deliberate push to confuse "Nationalist" ideas and policies as "Patriotic" ones to make people who are proud of their country and history feel attacked for that by having them use a word that *feels* no different. Thus understandably pushing them toward people with darker ideas for support against the apparent unfair backlash over their benign and reasonable feelings.
Scout O'Brien that is an excellent explanation of the differences of how patriotism and nationalism are viewed
One thing I like about these comics is Sokka’s reaction to the technological advancements. As opposed to Katara, he’s excited about the possibilities. Perhaps because he relates to people like Satoru and Maliq as non benders. He was never attached to the idea of bending like Katara was since he’s not a bender. Thoughts?
That's basically it. That's also why Sokka liked the mechanist adding technology to one of the Air temples and as shown in that episode with the Mechanist's son, tehnology gives Non-benders abilities that can rival benders, making them more equal. Just like how the Mechanist's son could then fly in the air just like the air nomads.
The scene of Sokka talking about not remembering his mom's face really strikes a cord with me. After my dad died I would sometimes call my parents place when I knew no one was home to hear his voice on the answering machine. I cried after my mom moved and realized I I'd never hear him again
When I was much younger and when I originally watched Avatar, I remember always feeling pangs of hurt when I watched that scene. As a kid, I never saw my father much and as such I couldn't ever really remember what he was like even though we lived in the same apartment. We slept in the same room even and yet, I couldn't ever remember what my father looked like. He woke up before I did and left before I woke up. When I got home from school, he wouldn't be home either. I just had the house key so I could get into the house after he left again. My mother was always busy working so I could never fault her. My father however, didn't work and yet he was always gone. He would always be at a relative's house or just out on a walk and yet he was never home. Now that he is older I get to see him more and we've bonded so to speak. Yet, if someone was to ask what my father looked like when I was in my early teens and younger? I wouldn't have remembered what his face looked like.
Albeit after all this time, I still remember the first person to treat me like a son. I only knew him for a year before his death but I remember his face better than I could ever remember my actual father's. It has been over ten years since he died but I still remember him better. Funny how that is.
It's funny in a slightly dark way how two people could have such different thoughts on their fathers. My condolences.
The fact that the daughter of a fire bender and earth bender is so set on "always being loyal to the fire nation" shows the problem...She should have wanted loyalty to both
euga yet that is also something we can see in this world. An Asian who marries a Westerner- usually the children are expected to prefer one identity identity as superior, and usually that’s the western one irrespective of which parent is the westerner. It’s more rare for the couple to raise a family with equal space for both heritages.
Being loyal to the Fire Nation to her was no in conflict with her eathr bending roots. It was more so with the idea that an earth bender should be loyal to the Earth Kingdom which is not neccesarly true. I would even argue for their independence at this point they were not Fire Nation or Earth Kingdom but they created their own identity, culture, political system and even economical resoruces not found anywhere else. But to her she was a citizen of the Fire Nation that happened to be an Earth Bender.
As someone of mixed asian and white descent, specifically Anglo-Korean it’s not that simple.
My loyalty and allegiance is to the USA and God almighty, not to the UK or South Korea
It’s easy to act like it can be equal and fair, but people of a homogeneous nature don’t understand the identity crises that mixed people go through
She grew up in a Fire Nation household, living under the law of the Fire Lord. This was also in one of the earlier colonies, the ones established decades before the extermination of the Air Nomads. (The 100 Year War was actually closer to 150 years long, but round numbers are catchier.) The prohibition on earthbending we see in newer colonies or more recently conquered territories simply isn't present because you have earthbenders being born to loyal colonial Fire Nation families. Most, or anyone, in those early colonies who are of Former Earth Kingdom ethnicity are loyal to the Fire Nation, largely because any disloyalty would have been removed several generations ago. They would also have a degree of loyalty because that's how they grew up, in the localised peace after the war moved on from conquering their part of the world. Most of them would simply be loyal to their city and province, which is part of the Fire Nation, therefore they are loyal to the Fire Nation.
There is also the factor that the Earth Kingdom does not having the same level of cultural homogeneity as the other Nations or even the same level of baseline loyalty to it's central government. This is discussed in examining the worldbuilding of the Earth Kingdom and how extreme their decentralisation of governance is. This is so extreme that there is no uniform judicial system between provinces and even a second Earth King in Omashu who's "kingship" over that province isn't challenged by the Earth King in Ba Sing Sae, who himself only appears to have direct control over the province of Ba Sing Sae. The Earth Kingdom as seen during the time of AtLA is by no means a unified kingdom, which considerably lowers the bar for changing loyalty away from it.
Katara did have a good stance on things because we know later on in the Korra series that the sacred Southern Water Tribe rites that had been forgotten due to the war and industrial development of the tribe ever since had left their local spirits dissatisfied and turning dark and malicious, which spilled out with horrible consequences by the time Korra was an adult.
I loved that series aswell.
This really made me think about the role of power (literal, in this case) when it comes to tradition. To Katara, her bending defines her, and that ability in turn defines her to her world and her people. But someone like Sokka, does not have access to that same cultural identifier, and one wonders how much that would change his perspective on what makes his culture unique. If it is water-bending, above all else, that defines a person from the Southern Water Tribe, how then do those without that talent define themselves within their culture?
Bending may be more elegant, but it is also inaccessible to a large portion of the population, through no fault or lack of will of their own. Doesn't it add in a bit of an odd dynamic when those who benefit most from the "new" ways are also those who historically had the least access to the "power" of the old? And is that a subversion of our world, where so often those who already have power are positioned to best exploit the new ways of the world?
This very issue is highlighted in the comics taing place after ATLA ended and a bit in Korra.
The sponsor plug starting at 26:36 was ingenious. Rarely am I ever entertained by compulsory advertising done in videos, but this genuinely made me laugh. Props for making not only the video entertaining, but the sponsorship as well. Never a dull moment with your vids. Keep up the stellar work Tim!
"IS IT TRUE THAT EVERYTHING'S ON FIRE OVER THERE?"
"Yes, Janet."
The world in Avatar: Has trouble with reconstruction in the South.
USA: First time?
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Best product placement I've seen for a TH-cam video.
i know right
So true
Ay that made me belly laugh
I'm a privacy bender
Anthony Morales I don’t get it.
What about sokka I would love to know what happened to him
sadly very little of Sokka is known, since he is not in Korra, and is not mentioned in any of the four seasons apart from one scene were all we know is he became a member of the Republic city coucil.
Textroditoxin sadly youre one of those people who dont get their facts right, there are comics about Atla and you can know alot about sokka
In HFM's video about the Cabbage Economy, he talks about how Sokka helps develop modern technology. Apparently, he becomes Chief at one point and faces (The Anarchist, I haven't watched the show yet, so I don't know his name) with Zuko etc. about ten or so years before LOK actually begins, protecting the young Avatar Korra.
travis morgan he died when he tried to fuck toph
In my headcanon Piandao consigned his castle to Sokka & Suki, where they would train young men and women in the art of non-bender fighting
So 'North and South' is sort of the opposite to the Shire in Peter Jackson's LotR or at least a happier 'Scouring of the Shire'. Instead of coming back to what you remember, what you were fighting for and not being able to fit back in due to the outside world's effects on the you, Katara has come back to her home to find that the outside world has arrived before her and she has to come to terms that she doesn't fit in because of the world's influence on her Shire.
STAY Young Nice!!!
STAY Young katara is frodo!
Katara was amazing, she was determined to learn water bending and never wavered. She's so underrated, if it wasn't for her getting angry at Sokka after he made a sexist comment "Leave up to a girl to screw things up" in the beginning of Book one, then her emotional outburst would've never happened and she wouldn't have freed Aang from the iceberg. This girl is so strong willed, started out as a timid girl who was the only waterbender in her tribe who self taught herself the basics and grows tremendously throughout the series. She learned defense, combative, healing and many other tricks that aided Team Avatar. Without her, Aang would've died in the end of Book 3, she legit saved the world with her courage, love and dedication to bringing peace. She deserves a damn statue dedicated to her in Legend Of Korra. This fierce woman is a warrior, mother, sister and a loveable character who inspires a lot.
Hell, if Katara hadn't changed her mind on Yu Dao and persuaded Aang to change his, Republic City wouldn't exist.
The "modernization" of the Southern Water Tribe (and many real life native tribes) is rather interesting. You've giving a culture technology hundreds of years ahead of their own, without giving their culture and way of life time to naturally integrate it into how they do things. Their being told how it should be done, without being able to develop their own way. Is it wrong to withhold the technology that would unquestionably improve their way of life? Or is it wrong to risk destroying their cultural identity with technology they aren't culturally ready for?
Think of it like this.
Say the Aztec empire never fail and continue to this day.
There's that chance they would have kept up with the rest of the world and the same people who cut off people's heads to please the sun would suddenly have air planes and working toliets.
But there that chance that they wouldn't they would continue to follow their culture even to this day.
Which makes them more easier to attack and destoy.
With people like Napoleon and Hitler coming along 200-400 years after they orginaly fail.
The heavy advancement in tech would cause the Aztecs to fall anyways.
It was the differences between the Aztec empire and the Spanish that caused them to fall in the first place.
The only way the Aztec empire Could have surrived even bigger invasion forces and or new morden equipment they would have to modernize themselves.
Firstly the military so they stand a chance at fighting Back but doing this they will see how easier it is to do things in the new morden way.
They would start to import these methods into non military things and before you know it their customs and culture would be lost all because of the fear that someone would march on their doorstep.
The Aztec empire surviving would also change many events here in the states.
With the war we fought with the Mexicans that gave us multiple states the Aztec empire would still fight but if they were just as militaryly advanced as when Cortez showed up that war would have ended differently.
It was thanks to Mexico being what it was that gave them that fighting chance.
Fighting the US would result in the Same thing Cortez did.
Expect giving that the Mexican American war was a little over a years ago the Aztec culture wouldn't be as lost as it is to day.
To answer your question.
It honestly depends if your culture and way of life preventing you from having the ability to fight back and risk the destruction of your own people than you would have to stop and think about what's more important a culture without people to embrace it or living people with a lost culture?
In this moment modernizing and being able to fight to defend not only home but your culture is the only way you can preserve it.
It's sometimes best to live to see another day than to fight and no one live at all.
The way to keep your culture alive is to teach it to the young so that people who prefer using Machines to wash their clothes can do but people who still liking Washing their clothes in the lake can do so as well.
Let people have the option to embrace the culture they know or the ways of the morden world.
To answer your last question let's use the Aztec empire again.
Again they stood tall to the day but they keep their way of life and culture.
One day say the us trys introducing these people a cell phone.
Just the shock of the cell phone doing all the things it would do would cause Angy amount them.
Those who want to give the modem ways a try and those who don't.
This would cause in fighting and perhaps war.
The Aztec empire went from what Mexico is now to where Nevada is and all the land in-between.
And we are lead to believe even spreading to the other nation's in central America.
The answer to your question depends on the location of the less developed culture in question with the US still being bordered to the Aztec empire the Aztec people will be aware of such things like planes or cars Because they would see and hear them.
They would live as the Amish do aware of the morden world but choosing to live by their lifestyle and way of life.
Forcing the change would damage them while them slowly learning about it and adjusting to themselves is a whole different story.
@@ben_dover97 assuming the Modern Aztec empire doesn't do a USSR and prevent people from learning about advancements in technology (excluding the steamships and such)
@@sockshandle
the more you oppressed people.
The more they will want to rebel once they learn the hard truth.
@@ben_dover97 That's one of the main reasons why Mallinche sold out the Aztecs.
To summarizes Zero's thoughtful and insightful but extremely detailed long answer, should you (future readers) be the sort to get a bit lost in it, as I am --
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"To answer your question. It honestly depends if your culture and way of life preventing you from having the ability to fight back and risk the destruction of your own people than you would have to stop and think about what's more important a culture without people to embrace it or living people with a lost culture? In this moment modernizing and being able to fight to defend not only home but your culture is the only way you can preserve it. It's sometimes best to live to see another day than to fight and no one live at all. The way to keep your culture alive is to teach it to the young so that people who prefer using Machines to wash their clothes can do but people who still liking Washing their clothes in the lake can do so as well. Let people have the option to embrace the culture they know or the ways of the morden world... The answer to your question depends on the location of the less developed culture in question with the US still being bordered to the Aztec empire the Aztec people will be aware of such things like planes or cars. Because they would see and hear them. They would live as the Amish do aware of the morden world but choosing to live by their lifestyle and way of life. Forcing the change would damage them while them slowly learning about it and adjusting to themselves is a whole different story..."
I'm in the process of watching Avatar: The Last Airbender for the first time because you hold this series in such a high esteem. Thanks Tim for encouraging me, and others I'm sure, to watch this amazing series!
It's amazing. You're going to love it!
You're going to love it!
Just expect Book 1 to be of a more inconsistent quality than the other two. The normal challenges of a first season that any series face.
It is great.
Yay, more ATLA fans! Have fun with it :D
Being Native Alaskan, I'm just so bummed out over the fact my culture being exactly this with totem poles, spiritual understanding but without the "eskimo" coats. I'm Tlingit, this is something that is still very real up here. Where most Tlingits who are fully understanding in our way of life, refuse to share as opposed to those that don't know and just don't care because we're just trying to keep up with the rest of the world with "memes and vines" and just ridiculous social interactions as such. What I hate is how many of these shows that represent Alaskan Natives, its only the Athabaskan, yupiks chupiks and so on that are sharing theirs and are vastly more represented being the face of Alaska even though Tlingits had so much power. So with that, why I always get bummed out, not over the misrepresentation of Natives, but the reason behind the misunderstanding because I know if only one my elders spoke over the specifics in our culture I'm sure our amazing Traditions would be shared further and ensured a future.
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@@matteblack2391 if my comment is something that warrants sarcasm then I dont see it considering the thousand others so if you're doing so as a joke I assure you my intention was to share only facts and my opinion on them.
@@matteblack2391 but if you prefer for a last word by all means. Though I cant promise I'll read it.
@@stoagymahalo5268 If I understand you correctly (And I'm sorry, I'm not even on the same Continent, so I don't know your People story) is that among other reasons your culture is "forgotten" it is also because of the fact that "Your People" (I hate writing that way, but English isn't my first language - no offense meant) decided to not share and partially Integrate and be allowed to tell your story as well as not being keen of telling it themselves? Of course this is only one of many ways your culture has suffered, but I ask if I understood you.
The Tlingit's are closer in culture to the Indigenous tribes and clans in western Canada. It's too bad that the Alsakan panhandle became part of the US as Alaska probably wouldn't have been as colonized as it is without access to the lush Tlingit territory. I'm Tsimshian and the reason why our nation formed was to build alliances to repel Tlingit raiders. Indigenous culture is extremely hard to integrate into capitalized cultures as it has different economic principles. The successful bands here in Canada still remember and practice their old ways but run their territories as businesses and distribute their wealth equitably to band members.
They should make an animated series for avatar showing the events right after defeat of Ozai.
They are planning too. It's supposed to be titled Book 4: Air but Netflix ruined that
// 랄프 쥐 //// ラルフ 鼠 // I don’t think Netflix was at fault mainly because the original writers didn’t want to continue with another season. They stuck with the movie and we know how that went lol. Anyways, what Netflix is doing is hopefully gonna be better than the trash that was the live action movie, we’re just gonna have to sit and wait for now.
I actually see some relevancy of katara's story in america. Because i'm familiar with it, I'l give the basics. It can be synonymous with the Native American removal, and cultural "integration." Many constantly feared for their families, most lost some, like katara with her mother. Many thought of the Native American people as brutish, simple, and lesser, despite the fact that they had intricate cultural heritages, beautiful art, and an intimate spiritual connection, all of which are similar in Avatar's southern water tribe. The north can be a metaphor for the rich and wealthy oil men and natives, who decided to take more land for their own gain. The only saving grace is that we are now making up for this, trying to preserve the native culture and trying to find the dying arts of their heritage. This is so similar to the story of Katara, it hurts. I just realized it when he mentioned Oil, as that was one of the biggest drives for the second wave of American expansion.
This is so deep 😶 man katara got SERIOUS character development good on the writers 👏 she faces complex questions with complex answers but they make her grow as a person and I love it.
Plot twist: all these video essays are really his college research papers and he’s making money of them on the side😂
How everyone sais it: last airbender
How he said it: *E A R B E N D E R*
😂😂 I love this comment
Moms be like
how everyone else spells it: says
how you spelled it: **S A I S**
je ne sais quoi
:))
It's the most powerful form of bending.
You know why he call it like that? Because his name is ONG
This really hits home for me. Living as a Korean-American, I struggle with getting respect with conformity. As someone raised in a Korean household and some Christian values, living without drinking alcohol or smoking or even doing certain things makes me feel marginal... I'm always treated as a foreigner or a weird person, and if I do not conform to others outside then I'm not worthy or normal.
Stick by your morels the right people will surround you eventually.
It would be cheesy for me to say enjoy being different, but its true. You can have peace they will never know. I am a loner, and an outcast too. I know I will eventually find one or more person to be with and that's what we should want. We can't have a lot of people superficially loving us but we can have some people deeply caring for us more than they will ever have. And I think that's more important and worth it. You will find peace brother. InshAllah.
But where is Katara and Aang’s wedding 😭😭
Fun fact:
The first couple whose wedding is shown in Avatar Universe is Varrick and Zhu Li in the finale of Korra
@@margarethmichelina5146 tell me about it.why varrick tho?
@@KaiserStormTracking Have you seen anyone in the Gaang get married on screen? And Varrick is a rich man and he's the one that must be organizing the wedding.
We never see how Katara and Aang get married, we only know they have 3 children but never seen their wedding on screen. Later, we see Aang's son, Tenzin already has 3 children and later the fourth. We also never know who's Zuko's wife. Toph has Lin and Suyin by two different men. Lin's father name is Kanto but we barely know who's Suyin's father. And last but not least, we never know what happen in Sokka in Legend of Korra besides of the flashbacks of Yakone's trial.
@@margarethmichelina5146uh.i just lost a good 30 brain cells reading this.plus make this easier to understand
@@KaiserStormTracking you're one to talk buddy
lol through the whole video it kept really reminding me of the struggles of an aboriginal australian, its nice to see how much this guy understands how people from a dying culture sees the changes in the world
13:27 Do you go on a Sheep collecting journey after that? Are there Sheep gyms to battle? A Sheep League?
@@dendrocerulean5908 I was referencing Pokemon. Sorry if you understood already, your comment was a little unclear.
I have 6 sheep badges
Yes and mishka is the champion
Can you please make a video on how escalate and de-escalate character abilities so that a writer can give character new abilities without have too many or out classing the supporting characters?
Oh yeah, I'd like that video, too.
Read naruto an do the exact opposite of what it did
Ivan Hammell also dragon ball, do the opposite as wel
@@theamazingmaymay123 eh goku doesnt really get to many abbilities he just keeps getting stronger and stronger while other characters dont
power creeping
Barely a Minute in:
SUPREME LEADER MISHKA!
Putting it in the adspot was dirty pool.
All hail Mishka!
@Jordan Cambridge I'm sorry what * shotgun loads* would you mean to repeat that? *points shotgun at head *
ALL HAIL MISHKA
Mishka dead
Great video, and answering one of the pinned questions, yep, Southern Raiders was not just the top Katara moment for me, but the moment that made me go "Oh...this already good show is actually REALLY good." (Well, maybe Tale of Iroh did that first, but this hammered it home). I've tried to explain to people who've never seen the show just what a strong character moment that episode is, and they often seem kind of baffled that a show on Nickelodeon would've covered such ground.
It's not just that Katara grows to develop a handle on her trauma and to trust someone she very recently saw as an existential threat to her and her loved ones, it's that the episode goes out of its way to demonstrate that Katara is *not* fully over her pain: Aang, who as the Avatar and member of the Air nomads often serves to embody a lot of the show's morality and philosophical outlook makes clear that it's important to forgive and to let go as a means of truly moving on and living our best lives...and yet Katara straight up admits it: she'll never be able to forgive her mother's killer. It's a perfectly understandable feeling, of course, but given how she's often depicted as part of the show's moral center alongside Aang it hits hard to hear her say that there's this dark part of her that she'll never really get past. To have a nominal "cartoon for kids" go some place like that with a character that in previous TV generations likely would've been forced by the network to always take the most moral stance in all situations is a truly striking, humanizing moment.
Isn’t avatar a show for kids
Me an intellectual: well yes but actually no
Its the same with anime. People who don't watch it will always say it's a kids show.
@@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 Bro took a series and compared it to a fucking genre
It has the aesthetics and tone of a kids show but with extremely well built world and characters
I almost feel the real world leaders should watch this. How to handle things better
I agree
They probably shouldn't. That
At would be the equivalent of showing a child a scene of goku doing the kamehameha and expecting him to imitate it.
That's not a bad idea 😊
It's a good idea, but I highly doubt it would prompt them to do anything to make the world a better and peaceful place.
The leaders of the world are too focused on whats going on right now. If they were wise and brave they'd cast aside differences and bloody histories of ages gone by and all come to agreement and not provoke each other. But reality is not that simple and in this ever changing modern world of ours negotiations and business must come before all else. Other wise economies would wane and the balance of power would shift. The Cold War did much to shape the geo-political landscape and gave way to a system of balance that in my opinion is very dangerous and that is nuclear deterrence. While we can say nuclear deterrence has prevented another massive World War in the last 70 years. It has undoubtedly made partnerships and alliances harder. The US and Russia, are still at odds to an extent, although not as intense as it was during the Cold War but the Cold War only fueled distrust among the nations that opposed each other. I'd like to say the situation is better today but as history shows, today's ally is tomorrows enemy. Time marches on and with it so too the ways of the world.
A lot of people like the irish, native Americans they all face what the air nomads and water tribe did.
I'm going through rather extensive training concerning the Indigenous nation. Many of their traditions and language has gone extinct.
@@alainarchambault2331 Thats cool and yea alot of peoples culture and languge is thoes that got invaded and oppressed forced to assimilate.
I'm am 25%Cherokee indian I am learning the old ways from my sister & brother tribe members.
Solara Fae Well not exactly, the air nomads were literally almost hunted to extinction.
Armenians, Greeks and Assyrian people as well
yes, the fire nation lives in houses made of fire, and eat firechicken that's on fire.
Flameo, hotman!
Lol
ThibautVDP and drive hot wheels
No that's Texas
I loved this series growing up and now as a globalization/global studies major in uni. I still find it so fascinating how much the show relates to our world today, especially the things you have mentioned in this video and Katara's dilemmas. I really love the analysis and thought you give in your videos!
Man, this is deep. I need to read these comics. I appreciate how it retains the nuanced complexity and honesty of the show. It really does reflect the reality in which we live. It's completely true that we are currently living in a world shaped by globalization and globalism, and there are those who want to march forward with that at any and all costs, while there are others who want to preserve their values and identity and maintsin their sovereignty and independence. The right-wing nationalist, populist and traditionalist moviements and sentiments growing in the US, UK, Italy, Poland, India, Japan, Brazil and so that oppose these opposite, progressive, globalizing forces very much reflect the kind of struggle between globalization and traditionalization as depicted in the Avatar universe. It's actually quite amazing how insightful Katara's personal journey very much reflects the struggles and challenges that are coming to define the world as we know it today.
Its not just that but it also the conquering and setting outher nations back ..people who can't compete or who are oppressed and traditions and beauty of nations are literally forgotten and dismissed. Like the southern water tribe was always regarded as nothing but no one knows much about them but then what really loved about avatar is that the very next avater comes out of the souther water tribe .this is why i always loved korra .also the other water avatar was from the south and they are known for being humble yet mighty worriers, those with high moral standards and compassion. They are the most human people in the show. Even the northern water tribes had very little regard for spirituality but had so much tradition instead. They were cold unlike the south..also korra season 2 have them so good advantages haha
12:26 oml that bit where Tim (I'm guessing unscripted) explains why that scene hits home, and just the look on his face and in his eye was just breathtaking
I had a HUGE crush on Katara when I was watching this show as a child, and so I'm very much afraid to watch this video because I fear I'll fall in love again
Azula is way hotter (no pun intended)
I always had a thing for the "super hot crazy bitches" ;)
Catam Vanitas i had a crush on ty lee
Uncle Iroh is best girl
Katara, mai, and suki were my childhood crushes
Its me! Sauron lmao ty lee gang
I always felt a strong connection to Katara as a character I feel it’s just that I can relate so much to how she sees things
You should do a video about Katara’s relationship with Aang from beginning to end and how it progressed the way it did and why it ended with them together.
This hits home so hard
My culture has been completely ripped from the memories of most of my people
No one in my family speaks our heritage language.
We are modernized and living well off, more so than we have ever done in history. In a time of post colonial peace we are now allies with our former enemies. But our culture has been permanently fractured. We are alive but have no idea what the past was really like
It’s not fulfilling I suppose, to live like that...
as a north african, having to live in the shadows of what colonialism and new religious identities have done to us (denying our existence and being completely racist to us in our own lands ) i feel you.
@@penfriend469 Thank you for your compassion, and I'm sorry that happened to your people too.
@@dontknow7796 Don't get me wrong, we have a very fulfilling life, but it is always in the back of my mind that there's just a part missing.
As a Mexican-american, I understand what you mean. We're rather simple, holding on to having fun and working, despite being descended from civilizations that brought war and conquering. Being in a world of modernization when you live so simply yet well-off is honestly... Confusing. I'm not sure how to explain it, but it's like being a fish who's content in a bowl of water, and then being dumped into the ocean. Our heritage isn't lost for the most part, but it's certainly changing, and I fear that the simplicity of life isn't enough for the ever changing world of western civilization.
Could you do a “What happened to...?” For all the major characters?
Everytime I watch this, my want for a new avatar legend grows more and more.. we need one, the next line is a earthbender
No it's fire. Korra was a water bender. The cycle goes Earth, Air, Water and Fire 🔥
@@MrInconvenient then we need a fire avatar now.
Aang’s past life was Avatar Roku, which was a fire bender. The cycle is Fire, Air, Water, Earth
@@dianabaldovinos7974 I wasn't specific about my word. What I mean to say was the next one in cycle After Korra.. the legend of the person after Korra.. a new avatar. Then a avatar after that.. which would be an earth bender.
Brandon Edwards no it doesn’t it goes air water earth fire
GREAT VIDEO!!!! I already loved Katara as a character, but it’s awesome to hear that they’ve been giving her such a resonant character arc. Thanks for making this.
Also there’s a scene during the comics we’re Sokka comes out of his own bedroom then Aang and Katara come out of a different bedroom hmmmm....
which comic?
Sperginator79 it’s one of the imbalance comics mi not sure which one
Sokka and suki
0_0 I am offically traumatised
You go girl!
“Is it true that everything is on fire there??”
“Yes Janet, yes it is”
M O O D
This video was brilliant. Covered every note it needed to for Katara's known story after the events of the show. I've read all the comics and I actually want to reread them all again while looking at each character on their own. I never made the connections between the different comics and how her story unfolds after the war, but this video helped me to see her story in a new light.
I've really loved a lot of your videos, but I think this has to be one of my favorites, if not one of your best. I love how you are basically using Katara and ATLA as a case study for the world we live in. It's very powerful and illustrates how storytelling allows us to better understand ourselves. Reminds me of Tolkien's mythopoeia and his idea that fantasy is escapism for the right reasons.
Oof... Anyone else flinch when he mentioned the "Southern Reconstruction Project"? Different contexts, but I'm sure the American writers knew what they were doing...
And yes, I know these are old comics and I'm probably late to the discussion, but yeah, haven't been able to keep up with the comics...
Now that you think about it, that arc does draw some allusions to post civil war reconstruction, but the twist in the avatar world is that this reconstruction led to more north and south tension and ultimately led to the Water Tribe Civil War, which led to a southern victory a reverse on the American timeline, oh and also no slavery.
@@byronlee991017 another thing I noticed is the water tribe's are hugely influence by the native Americans
@@mrbrainbob5320 that... should be *very* obvious that they're based off of Inuits
Honestly, I can't help but be *very* uncomfortable with the messages of North and South. The new architecture and the cultural institutions (compare the dinner party in the end of the first season of ATLA with what we see here) take way too much from Western/American rites, especially in the context of "rebuilding" a culture that's heavily based off of *the Inuits*. While it is debated enough throughout the comic and we're not given any explicit, objective answer, almost every plot point's conclusion (whether by accident or by pure belief) gives the perspective Katara and Gilak share-- respect for traditions-- way too little legitimacy in comparison to Sokka/Toph, who never really have to face the issues/existence of the idealistic "future" they're imagining in the same way Katara does. Oh yeah, Malina looking quite white in appearance and creating this almost gender-reversal Pocahontas story doesn't help either.
Gladiomer :D not just the Eskimos but native Americans in general like the tomahawks they had
Can we do an in depth character analysis on the important characters like Appa and Momo
When katara went to visit her mother’s grave I think it would have been nice if they had katara make a rose or flower from ice with her water bending. I think that would have been really visually and emotionally appealing but I still it’s nice she had flowers to put on her mothers grave
It really speaks to the talent of the writers and the quality of the show that a character like Katara continues to have such a beautiful character arch. In any other show, she could so easily have been written off as "the love interest", and, now that Aang got her, faded into obscurity, only resurfacing once in a while for a love triangle. Love Avatar and our supreme leader Miscka
So surprisingly, I can explain the flowers. The village has been modernized. Someone would have realized that flowers would be very valuable in that area and have been making a profit on transporting and selling flowers. Also, I love your videos, recognize me supreme leader Mishka. also, I probably spelled that wrong, sorry :3
Lunargal 624 why do I always come across comments like this as I get to the exact part in the video
Skylar Shane ikr
Dang it.... Now I want to taste cabbage cookies.
I was like "Okay I'm done watching the video 30 minutes after its released thats pretty fast" and then you just popped up from the lower edge of my screen being like "how l8 r u m8? HAH"
@@lelrond hahaha
MY CABBAGES!
Thanks for this bc I didn't even know there was this much story after the anime ended. I like how she struggles with her past just as the water element is associated with past and emotions. A reminder to flow in the present reality and not be attached to whats been lost.
This show was a masterpiece. one of the best of its time.
All time*
there’s so much human geography in avatar
Change comes to all peoples, from all times. If you cannot bend with the tide you will be broken by it.
Do the postwar video! Seriously. This was one of the most interesting and thoughtful pieces on the complexities of these subjects I’ve encountered. And I say that as someone whose job includes thinking through this biz! If you have the patience, and haven’t read them already, I highly recommend Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri’s Quadrilogy (Empire, Multitude, Commonwealth, and Assembly) that looks at these issues from our contemporary perspectives, thinking through strategies of resistance as creative, inclusive, integrative counter-globalization to globalization as a homogenizing force. I honestly detect influences of their thinking across these comics.
The phrase "they forget to preserve what matters" is honestly a great way to put it. Even when not during times of conquest, be it due to disease or natural disaster or just the gradual shift of culture over time, things are lost by the people. Specifically things that weren't documented at first because everyone knew them already. Sure they "matter" but bc they already are known by everyone it isn't "important." It only becomes important once people realize how much their identity (or their survival) is tied to it. The problem arises bc usually that realization comes too late.
the avatar universe has so much depth. i can sympathize with katara, losing ones culture is the most terrifying thing. once its lost it can never be found and its a fear that eats me up and a fear archaeologist have too. i love history...i love it so much to the point i have tears in my eyes. culture plays a huge part in peoples lives, it what we go home to, it what makes us feel warm and happy and content. its the same feeling if very memory every story is burnt to ashes. like losing a loved one. it truly break my heart.
I know your comment is a couple years old, but I have to say that while I really enjoy Katara's character, her issues surrounding loss and identity are something that haven't always been apparent to me. I've watched the entire show at least 3 or 4 times now... The entire lore behind this franchise is just amazing in more ways than one, even if I can't connect to all of it personally. I guess this disconnection that I still feel sometimes comes from me being adopted at a young age and having spent most of my life in the states. Just knowing that the world of Avatar is based on Asian origins is really fascinating to me, and I guess this also explains why I continue to be drawn to it as an Asian American.
Losing your culture, yeah.. but you also can't let your tradition worsen you, stand in your way.
They should mix, the progress ans comfort of the modern tech. But with traditional touch
Lol you are such a Zutara fanboy. Of course I always knew it seeing as you've had that poster at the back like forever.
My favorite Katara moment is when she fights master Paku
QmLinkM games mine when she bloodbands
That’s also a good part
Your segments are amazingly written, I tip my cap to you sir! Kudos, future me.
Air bending Subskill : Flight, Astral projection/Connecting to the spirit world (and fart bending??)
Water bending Subskill: Ice bending, Healing, Blood bending, Oil bending, Mud bending, Vine bending, Steam bending and Flight? (thru water molecules or vapor in air)
Earth bending Subskill : Metal bending, Lava banding, Mud bending, Crystal bending, Glass bending, Sand bending and Flight (thru dust bending that I saw from Avatar Kyoshi's mentor)
Fire bending Subskill : Lightning bending, Combustion/Explosion bending and Flight
What else?
AIR BENDING SUFFOCATION
Airbending Flight
Being from new zeland you must really bond with the southern water tribe. Ya know, so secluded in the south of the world.
Haha.....
Daniel Contos wtf.
Can you make a video on ang and katara's relationship?
Yes please! I loved their relationship :D
@@Luka1180 I can already tell such a video would be controversial. You say that you loved their relationship, whereas I felt it was forced and awkward in comparison to her chemistry with Zuko.
Mara Haefner noooooooooooo zutara forever!
Mara Haefner Aang, not ang. That sounds like how M. Night Shyamalan might’ve wrote it
I agree, he should totally do it, just for the sole purpose of triggering the Zutarians.
Hi Tim, I just wanted to pop in and say, that you are a really inspiring person and Fire my Love for Avatar with every Video! And I wanted to ask where you got that beautiful worldmap of atla behind you? Love to know, Love you and all hail Mischka!❤️
Saw that Zutara poster behind you in one of your past videos and I wasn’t sure if you shipped Zutara until this one haha! One of us, one of us
I feel like I want video abt kataang’s life
Damn, the Avatar manga is sounds much better than Korra.
@@akai5890 Actually the genre is Mesopotamian Stone Etchings, but who is counting?
@@LuxiBelle Aha I see what you did there. I think Morgan should not take things for 'Granite'!
It is
You are boring it is
Fact!❤
Katara, Iroh, and Zuko are all pretty much tied for my 3 favorite characters
Anybody noticed in the first comic seriesthat they never gave the earth king a name until that point?
13:26
Can confirm. Turned 8 while living in New Zealand.
Received a sheep in the post that same day.
Okay, your commentary is INCREDIBLE, but I had to stop halfway through cause I haven’t read the comics and now I know it’s absolutely necessary
Loved your video! I read up to North and South Part 3 too, but I wanted to hear your opinion on it. It would be interesting to hear how these themes relate to New Zealand culture and the Maori. I'm from Mexico, and choosing what to preserve from our past and what to let go is definitely a very difficult thing to do. Our love and respect for nature and different native traditions is something we have a constant struggle with, since our government has sometimes failed us in regards to protecting it. But I think that constant struggle has helped us preserve so many of our jungles and forested areas, and because of this we have not ravaged the land like the USA or Australia did so long ago.
Part Mexican and being closer to that I feel it so much
I’ve always thought of Katara as the main character of the show. Obviously Aang was the main focus, but we see everything through her eyes. She’s also the one who narrates the theme song. But I feel like the show always took extra effort to show her development, whether it be her Waterbending or just her personality in general. When the show started, she was barely able to Waterbending, as well as barely being able to control her emotions. Her emotions got the better of her a number of times. By the end, she was a master water bender, one of, if not the best in the world. She was a prodigy on the same level as Toph & Azula, only she didn’t have any way or anyone to train her. Toph learned from the original earrhebenders, the badgemoles. & Azula, being royalty in the fire nation, got the best fire bending training one could ask for. As well, at the end Katara was able to control her emotions & stay calm in situations that she wouldn’t have been able to before.
All hail Mishka, warden of the pillows and bane of all the squishy mice.
man your creative ad in the end killed me XD this is so brilliant, you are gorgeous
My favorite katara moment is when she kicks Zukos ass in the season 1 finale.
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Best advertisment ever !
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Could you please do a video on if Bumi trained Aang? I've always wondered what would happen
Like from child hood or like his first element(
@@vemis124 He means, if Bumi was Aang's earthbending teacher instead of Toph
This is why I want an animated series for the post war era!!
" where does she get flowers from? It's a bit icy" 😂😂😂😂😂