Thank you so much. You hear of prodigy young people playing piano outstanding... you're a paramotor prodigy. You're so skilled and you're able to teach so well. We all appreciate you and the life saving information you share.
Can't even begin to express how useful videos like these are. Seriously. Hearing the mental step by step process an experienced pilot goes through in these situations is such an awesome resource for new pilots to reference. 🤘please don't stop doing these types of videos
Dude, thanks for this! Out of all my PPG channel subs, yours and Santa’s continue to be the most educational. I’m flying Moab next week, and this just encourages more mindfulness.
Trevor, great video man. So happy you tied it back to kiting. I'm a PG pilot by trade and frankly I think the PPG community needs to hear this message more: kite kite kite!
The part about inducing different kinds of collapses during ground handling to mimic collapses and their recovery in the air was a lightbulb moment. Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown, Trevor. I'm planning to take PPG training either this year or next with a USPPA instructor and hope to build these types of active piloting skills.
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10:32 good explanation, but not quite. You can't release that wing completely with little or no forward speed - the angle of attack must match the airspeed or you are back in the stall zone repeatedly, which is why you saw that cycle of collapses. Always set the correct angle of attack using the brakes - for the current airspeed. Brake the surge for sure, release partially to avoid holding the wing in the stall zone as you say, but not so far that it surges forward into the frontal collapse zone or else you're on a roller coaster ride of pilot induced oscillations. Keep up the good work, love the immense ground handling skills.
These one side partial wing collapse happens in 1-2 second, before you know it’s inflated already? What if it doesn’t inflate on its own within say 5+ seconds but you have 300+ feet altitude and now you are tilted down on collapsed side. Should you reduce power allow wing to recover or increase power for more speed more air flow for quicker recovery? Speed is life speed is control?
Trever I have two questions. Since we are talking ozone gliders, would a moxie pwr or mojo pwr weighted per the manufacturer specs take a collapse in the same rotor conditions experienced here? If the beginner/student gliders do take the same collapses as advanced wings do they recover faster with less pilot input?
Yes they would have collapsed and they would have recovered as easily as this wing did. The moxie and mojo are not reflex wings, which means they’re more likely too collapse. They would have recovered as easily as this wing did with or without input.
Trevor wat do you recommend for trike guys? Wing control is one area where I feel was lacking in trike training. After I learned to prevent on oscillation and control inflation we were off and flying. I live at high elevation (7000MSL) so I use a 38m wing. With a slight bit of wind that is not kitable... haha. Would a little kiting wing like a Roadrunner translate behavior wise to the 38m glider flying in a trike?
There would totally be huge benefits to getting a road runner and improving your kiting skill. I cannot stress it enough that you should definitely do that asap! The skills you’ll learn kiting will help with so much. Let me know if you’re interested in a roadrunner or bgd seed. We have new and used and would be happy to help (801-599-1684)
So tell me dude, the flattop looks incredibly invincible and safe, what made you decide to use equipment with barely any protection? That thin little hoop doesn't look like it does anything!
Can you elaborate on that statement? Were you talking about performance, safety or both? I am an experienced sky diver that’s been contemplating starting my PPG journey, been hung up researching gear for the last 6 months. I’m an engineer so I over analyze everything 😊
@@deano572 OUr equipment is not only safer in a bunch of ways, but easier to use and has much better performance. For most of us, performance is second, and safety is first, which applies to myself. I care lot about safety and there are a handful of serious risk points to the flat top. THey also don't perform nearly as well, and I don't mean just maneuverability in flight, I mean your overall ability to just use it. The Flat Top is so uncomfortable and difficult to use that most flat top owners never fly them! Flat Top is also no longer in business so there is no service or parts available for them. I can share more thoughts anytime over the phone (801-599-1684)
I see you now have a school and promote all sorts of gear, but weren’t you Dell Schanze’s prodigy? I only ask cause as my interest grows on this sport, youtube algorithm exposed me to SuperDell’s channel and his perfect gear. So what changed from “death trap” gear? I’m terrified of making a dangerous purchase thanks to Dell. But you seem like THE person to ask. Please, help?
I was the dell “prodigy” I suppose. I took over his company for a few years and he is my uncle. I full heartedly believed everything he said about gear, training, flying, safety, etc. I believed it until I ventured out and exposed myself to new gear, new training, and new people. Once I had done that, I realized dells whole pitch was nothing more than a highly over exaggerated sales pitch based in theory not reality. In fact, a lot of his claims are nothing more than a lie he has convinced himself is true. Dell as an individual is very exciting, enthusiastic, and can be convincing of his arguments. He is also, a narcissist and borderline sociopath who has in the last year and a half destroyed his life, burned down his business, disowned his kids, left the country, and is facing legal action from previous customers for not delivering equipment they paid for. I encourage you to ignore all training and equipment claims from dell, but I do encourage you to study his training videos for any kiting tips you can pick up on. He did do an incredible job teaching kiting/ground handling and I will never take that away from him. He also was an incredible pilot who achieved incredible things. Since leaving his company we’ve developed a school structure that takes the good from his school and the good from other schools and combined them. Almost all our instructors are his previous instructors and we’ve continued on his incredible kiting instruction with our students. Happy to discuss more over the phone, anytime. 801-599-1684
@@TrevorSteele1 Holy shit this is wild. To this day, you can see how new people are still exposed to his content. And I can see how articulate he is and convincing he can be by mixing his great teaching with salesman skills. His site is still up which I can imagine he still cashing in on new victims. Can nothing be done to take it down and protect future pilots? For example, with your following, if you made a video explaining this and encouraging your subscribers(and other ppg subscriber channels) to flag his channel, perhaps the algorithm will stop promoting him or youtube might even take his channel down. A couple of thousand channel flags should do it? Only 3 mnths ago he posted a video pushing his merch again. Only so this can be put to rest, because your name mixed with his stained image is still alive. Anyways, just sharing my thoughts. I think you are an amazing teacher judging through videos. Love your content. Cheers from Puerto Rico🩵
Man your accurate analysis and explination is a breath of fresh air. People would do well to learn from you
Coming from you, that means A LOT. Thank you
Thank you so much. You hear of prodigy young people playing piano outstanding... you're a paramotor prodigy. You're so skilled and you're able to teach so well. We all appreciate you and the life saving information you share.
Excellent video! As someone new to the hobby this is super helpful.
Can't even begin to express how useful videos like these are. Seriously. Hearing the mental step by step process an experienced pilot goes through in these situations is such an awesome resource for new pilots to reference. 🤘please don't stop doing these types of videos
Dude, thanks for this! Out of all my PPG channel subs, yours and Santa’s continue to be the most educational. I’m flying Moab next week, and this just encourages more mindfulness.
Trevor, great video man. So happy you tied it back to kiting. I'm a PG pilot by trade and frankly I think the PPG community needs to hear this message more: kite kite kite!
The part about inducing different kinds of collapses during ground handling to mimic collapses and their recovery in the air was a lightbulb moment. Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed breakdown, Trevor. I'm planning to take PPG training either this year or next with a USPPA instructor and hope to build these types of active piloting skills.
Super useful reflections, thanks!!! 🙏
Good lookin out with this one , proper technique is a life saver
Great video! Very interesting and informative 👍🏻
Excellent video, thank you Trevor!!
Thanks for the info!
Man, I would love to just hang around you. I would learn so much stuff!! Good stuff!
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This is good stuff. Great info thank you
This is a great video!
10:32 good explanation, but not quite. You can't release that wing completely with little or no forward speed - the angle of attack must match the airspeed or you are back in the stall zone repeatedly, which is why you saw that cycle of collapses. Always set the correct angle of attack using the brakes - for the current airspeed. Brake the surge for sure, release partially to avoid holding the wing in the stall zone as you say, but not so far that it surges forward into the frontal collapse zone or else you're on a roller coaster ride of pilot induced oscillations. Keep up the good work, love the immense ground handling skills.
Hello from London. Your information is great. Thanks. I'm always following. I like your glasses. Do you have a link? 😊 Thank you..
Awesome video! Yo how do you have your reserve attached? I’m rocking a front mounted reserve now and wanna make sure I’m wearing it correctly. Thanks!
@@To_the_Moon_PPG every front mount is different! Shoot me a text and we can figure it out! 801-599-1684
have you tried an ultralight or a light trike if u want portability dont have to worry about collapes anymore, stay safe.
Not gonna lie, that POV turbulence looks terrifying 😅
Oh it was
Do class A Certified wings still collapse as often?
These one side partial wing collapse happens in 1-2 second, before you know it’s inflated already? What if it doesn’t inflate on its own within say 5+ seconds but you have 300+ feet altitude and now you are tilted down on collapsed side. Should you reduce power allow wing to recover or increase power for more speed more air flow for quicker recovery? Speed is life speed is control?
Is this also true for the reflex profile?
I’m flying a reflex glider in all of these
Trever I have two questions. Since we are talking ozone gliders, would a moxie pwr or mojo pwr weighted per the manufacturer specs take a collapse in the same rotor conditions experienced here? If the beginner/student gliders do take the same collapses as advanced wings do they recover faster with less pilot input?
Yes they would have collapsed and they would have recovered as easily as this wing did. The moxie and mojo are not reflex wings, which means they’re more likely too collapse. They would have recovered as easily as this wing did with or without input.
@@TrevorSteele1 Thanks Trevor! My apologies for spelling your name wrong in my initial post. Thanks again! Blue skys!
Trevor wat do you recommend for trike guys? Wing control is one area where I feel was lacking in trike training. After I learned to prevent on oscillation and control inflation we were off and flying. I live at high elevation (7000MSL) so I use a 38m wing. With a slight bit of wind that is not kitable... haha. Would a little kiting wing like a Roadrunner translate behavior wise to the 38m glider flying in a trike?
There would totally be huge benefits to getting a road runner and improving your kiting skill. I cannot stress it enough that you should definitely do that asap! The skills you’ll learn kiting will help with so much.
Let me know if you’re interested in a roadrunner or bgd seed. We have new and used and would be happy to help (801-599-1684)
So tell me dude, the flattop looks incredibly invincible and safe, what made you decide to use equipment with barely any protection? That thin little hoop doesn't look like it does anything!
This equipment is leaps and bounds better than a flat top in darn near every way shape and form
Can you elaborate on that statement? Were you talking about performance, safety or both?
I am an experienced sky diver that’s been contemplating starting my PPG journey, been hung up researching gear for the last 6 months. I’m an engineer so I over analyze everything 😊
@@deano572 OUr equipment is not only safer in a bunch of ways, but easier to use and has much better performance. For most of us, performance is second, and safety is first, which applies to myself. I care lot about safety and there are a handful of serious risk points to the flat top. THey also don't perform nearly as well, and I don't mean just maneuverability in flight, I mean your overall ability to just use it. The Flat Top is so uncomfortable and difficult to use that most flat top owners never fly them! Flat Top is also no longer in business so there is no service or parts available for them.
I can share more thoughts anytime over the phone (801-599-1684)
@@TrevorSteele1 thank you for following up, I appreciate it… I’ll be reaching out at some point in the near future. 👍
@@deano572 please do! I’m an open book and happy to share the good bad and ugly anytime.
I was thinking if gettin into this sport but now….
I bet Trevor is the best PPG pilot in the whole Unites States of America.
I would have shit my self if that would of happened to me more then likely 😅 u saved it quick
did dell's super skills help you on this one lol?
Super or not, kiting skill definitely did
@@TrevorSteele1 it was a joke because hes always trying to scare ppl into getting his and ONLY his super training and equipment
Looks like your pulling Stabilo not brakes.
I see you now have a school and promote all sorts of gear, but weren’t you Dell Schanze’s prodigy? I only ask cause as my interest grows on this sport, youtube algorithm exposed me to SuperDell’s channel and his perfect gear. So what changed from “death trap” gear? I’m terrified of making a dangerous purchase thanks to Dell. But you seem like THE person to ask. Please, help?
I was the dell “prodigy” I suppose. I took over his company for a few years and he is my uncle. I full heartedly believed everything he said about gear, training, flying, safety, etc.
I believed it until I ventured out and exposed myself to new gear, new training, and new people. Once I had done that, I realized dells whole pitch was nothing more than a highly over exaggerated sales pitch based in theory not reality. In fact, a lot of his claims are nothing more than a lie he has convinced himself is true.
Dell as an individual is very exciting, enthusiastic, and can be convincing of his arguments. He is also, a narcissist and borderline sociopath who has in the last year and a half destroyed his life, burned down his business, disowned his kids, left the country, and is facing legal action from previous customers for not delivering equipment they paid for.
I encourage you to ignore all training and equipment claims from dell, but I do encourage you to study his training videos for any kiting tips you can pick up on. He did do an incredible job teaching kiting/ground handling and I will never take that away from him. He also was an incredible pilot who achieved incredible things.
Since leaving his company we’ve developed a school structure that takes the good from his school and the good from other schools and combined them. Almost all our instructors are his previous instructors and we’ve continued on his incredible kiting instruction with our students.
Happy to discuss more over the phone, anytime. 801-599-1684
@@TrevorSteele1 Holy shit this is wild.
To this day, you can see how new people are still exposed to his content. And I can see how articulate he is and convincing he can be by mixing his great teaching with salesman skills.
His site is still up which I can imagine he still cashing in on new victims. Can nothing be done to take it down and protect future pilots? For example, with your following, if you made a video explaining this and encouraging your subscribers(and other ppg subscriber channels) to flag his channel, perhaps the algorithm will stop promoting him or youtube might even take his channel down. A couple of thousand channel flags should do it? Only 3 mnths ago he posted a video pushing his merch again.
Only so this can be put to rest, because your name mixed with his stained image is still alive.
Anyways, just sharing my thoughts. I think you are an amazing teacher judging through videos. Love your content. Cheers from Puerto Rico🩵
@@TrevorSteele1spoken like a guy who has his sh@t together..
How do you recover from a collapse if your hands are off the brakes and you're on full speedbar?
Reserve toss!
I've seen people release bar quick and grab brake but you need alot of altitude if your gunna sort that out.