I feel like both the migraines and the bright lights sequence was Teddy either reacting to the drugs or reacting to the absence of the drugs that he was prescribed. They talk about this a bit when the cave woman asked Teddy what he has eaten, drank, if he's been smoking his own cigarettes, suggesting that he has been being drugged in secret since they cant tell a marshal "Here take these drugs" (except for when he asks for asprin for his migraines). I thought that was one of the many "Hey, Teddy is totally of his rocker. Here is yet another clue. I want you to know before Teddy fully recalls the horrors of reality. Enjoy!" moments. *Edit. And the end was 100% him being sane, but wishing to be remembered as the delusion, as "Teddy", the good man, than the monster his sanity made him recall; the delusion he lived in and as than the monster that had experienced and committed horrible acts.
Is Shutter Island to Scorsese what Inception to Nolan? I don't think so, Jared!!! Despite a valid interpretation on the film's form as filmaking; I think historical aspects are quiet more presient. Scorsese's filmography revolves around men losing his paradise. Just as DiCaprio's character with his family murdered, West society lost his idea of utopia after Auschwitz. We are living in a fantasy world thinking we learned our lessons from WWII, but it just keeps repeating: Balkans, Rhuanda, Cambodia, etc. Scorsese pay hommage to Hitchcock as psychological inspiration (subjectivity), and to Douglas Sirk as aesthetics inspiration (colorful world rotten inside)... Thanx!!!
on the subject of the dark knight rises, there is a very popular theory that bruce did die and alfred was just seeing what he wanted to see at the end, which would clarify the lie analogy.
I always thought he was playing up the crazy to be labotimized because he didn't want to live with his sins as a monster. He wants to die as a good man which could be a comment on military members defining themselves as heros not the monsters they have to be. Much like veitnam vets dealing with being shot at by children and having to shoot back. To having to kill innocent guys that just are on the other side of the field protecting their family and country. So choosing to embrase the darkness of never knowing who you are so you can be the hero of your story again instead of the monster that killed his wife and wasn't good enough to stop his wife from killing her. I know it's cool to hate on Dark Knight Rises but I like it a lot. I can say that I often find myself finding the plot holes but I often try to fill the holes left. When I was young I never wanted to just say malucifant was evil because evil I made a whole backstory of her being neglected and outcasted. Hence why she gets so upset with not being invited. Also she is well spoken but seems to have very few interactions with anyone other then her crow so I am sure she was lonely. This us at like 7. Now I never said that made what she did right much like I supported Adam west Batman but understood Harvey Bullock's dislike of Batman's tactics in the animated series. I think the Dark Knight Rises gets a bad rap because it's the first movie of the trilogy that is about Bruse it's about his struggles to put away the cape because as many super heros touch on in comics and movies his antics inspire opposite reactions to the extreames. It's personal development is on a bit of a more emotional level. It's based on the death of Batman so Bruse can live. I would say perhaps the phantom animated Batman movie did it a bit better but they also has a Batman the audience had been watching for years on TV not 6 hours previously and only focused on the Bruse development not the Batman aspect. If anything the Dark Knight Rises trys to take on too much and can't fill in the themes it only has time to touch on.
I also got the idea that he was pretending to be crazy so they would lobotomize him, and he would rather die a hero (aka become a zombie and no memories of what he has done) than live as a monster (remembering what happens with his kids and wife)
The dude nobody can see must of had a easy life or something. He’s never been close to breaking before. Of course those two experiences would definitely break him and anyone else. War itself has broken our strongest men.
Living as a monster is Andrew living with the guilt that he ultimately killed his kids because he knew his wife wasn't well and evaded the situation. Dying as a good man is being lobotomized as Teddy, the nazi killer who was just a little too late to save an innocent village from being slaughtered.
Pretty sure I don't have to mention this but Southland Tales was NOT the sequel to Donnie Darko. It was terrible, though; one of the only movies where I've walked out of the theater before it was finished.
The purpose of a good reveal isn't the reveal but the justification for the reveal. The audience needs to feel completely satisfied. The Prestige gets this, the Usual Suspects doesn't.
Thanks for having my voicemail on the podcast! Really made my week.
I hate it when they don't have Austin on.
Us too!! Austin is still healing :/
@@WISECRACK_2 oh?!... I must have missed that.
I hope he gets well soon.
I feel like both the migraines and the bright lights sequence was Teddy either reacting to the drugs or reacting to the absence of the drugs that he was prescribed.
They talk about this a bit when the cave woman asked Teddy what he has eaten, drank, if he's been smoking his own cigarettes, suggesting that he has been being drugged in secret since they cant tell a marshal "Here take these drugs" (except for when he asks for asprin for his migraines).
I thought that was one of the many "Hey, Teddy is totally of his rocker. Here is yet another clue. I want you to know before Teddy fully recalls the horrors of reality. Enjoy!" moments.
*Edit. And the end was 100% him being sane, but wishing to be remembered as the delusion, as "Teddy", the good man, than the monster his sanity made him recall; the delusion he lived in and as than the monster that had experienced and committed horrible acts.
Please do the German Netflix show Dark. I know you all will love it if you haven’t seen it!
Is Shutter Island to Scorsese what Inception to Nolan? I don't think so, Jared!!! Despite a valid interpretation on the film's form as filmaking; I think historical aspects are quiet more presient. Scorsese's filmography revolves around men losing his paradise. Just as DiCaprio's character with his family murdered, West society lost his idea of utopia after Auschwitz. We are living in a fantasy world thinking we learned our lessons from WWII, but it just keeps repeating: Balkans, Rhuanda, Cambodia, etc. Scorsese pay hommage to Hitchcock as psychological inspiration (subjectivity), and to Douglas Sirk as aesthetics inspiration (colorful world rotten inside)... Thanx!!!
Praise to the wisecrack!
Beard game looking FIERCE Jared
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Jared looks like Ezio Auditore in AC Revelations
Got the REAL crew back, Minus 1
on the subject of the dark knight rises, there is a very popular theory that bruce did die and alfred was just seeing what he wanted to see at the end, which would clarify the lie analogy.
I always thought he was playing up the crazy to be labotimized because he didn't want to live with his sins as a monster. He wants to die as a good man which could be a comment on military members defining themselves as heros not the monsters they have to be. Much like veitnam vets dealing with being shot at by children and having to shoot back. To having to kill innocent guys that just are on the other side of the field protecting their family and country. So choosing to embrase the darkness of never knowing who you are so you can be the hero of your story again instead of the monster that killed his wife and wasn't good enough to stop his wife from killing her.
I know it's cool to hate on Dark Knight Rises but I like it a lot. I can say that I often find myself finding the plot holes but I often try to fill the holes left. When I was young I never wanted to just say malucifant was evil because evil I made a whole backstory of her being neglected and outcasted. Hence why she gets so upset with not being invited. Also she is well spoken but seems to have very few interactions with anyone other then her crow so I am sure she was lonely. This us at like 7. Now I never said that made what she did right much like I supported Adam west Batman but understood Harvey Bullock's dislike of Batman's tactics in the animated series. I think the Dark Knight Rises gets a bad rap because it's the first movie of the trilogy that is about Bruse it's about his struggles to put away the cape because as many super heros touch on in comics and movies his antics inspire opposite reactions to the extreames. It's personal development is on a bit of a more emotional level. It's based on the death of Batman so Bruse can live. I would say perhaps the phantom animated Batman movie did it a bit better but they also has a Batman the audience had been watching for years on TV not 6 hours previously and only focused on the Bruse development not the Batman aspect. If anything the Dark Knight Rises trys to take on too much and can't fill in the themes it only has time to touch on.
Scorsese said on Good Morning America it was Teddy's last lines of the movie that convinced him to make the movie
I also got the idea that he was pretending to be crazy so they would lobotomize him, and he would rather die a hero (aka become a zombie and no memories of what he has done) than live as a monster (remembering what happens with his kids and wife)
The dude nobody can see must of had a easy life or something. He’s never been close to breaking before. Of course those two experiences would definitely break him and anyone else. War itself has broken our strongest men.
Great pod! Will you guys do an Ad Astra SMTM?
Jared's beard is too cool for Culture Binge now, is it?
Living as a monster is Andrew living with the guilt that he ultimately killed his kids because he knew his wife wasn't well and evaded the situation.
Dying as a good man is being lobotomized as Teddy, the nazi killer who was just a little too late to save an innocent village from being slaughtered.
"If my movie is good enough, the script doesn't matter!"
Pretty sure I don't have to mention this but Southland Tales was NOT the sequel to Donnie Darko. It was terrible, though; one of the only movies where I've walked out of the theater before it was finished.
The purpose of a good reveal isn't the reveal but the justification for the reveal. The audience needs to feel completely satisfied. The Prestige gets this, the Usual Suspects doesn't.
Jared bauer or Logan Paul?
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Damn, I can't stand Ryan's off-point comments