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Antioch: the Forgotten Rome of the East
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What happened to the Sassanid City Called "Better Antioch"?
Simon quoting Monty Python even more dryly than they were saying in it in the original is freaking hysterical
He said it like he was reading a manual I'm dying
This new learning amazes me. Explain again how sheep's bladders can be employed to prevent earthquakes.
If I was a betting man (I am), I'd put $NZ100 on our Fact Boi having not seen the film and not knowing how funny him reading that.
Speaking of getting Fact Boi to say funny things and not have him know. Has anyone checked on Danny in the basement lately? He's been quiet lately and might have run out of mushrooms and died.
@@StefanMedici I shan't take that bet!
FactBoi _says_ Danny's on vacation, but we all know that means he escaped ;)
Agreed
My knowledge of Antioch is courtesy of the Pythons. "Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
One Two Five!!!
No! Three!!!
My knowledge of it was the Anne Rice novel, Pandora
Ahhh the holy book of armaments
@@404Off-line And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chulapas.
Wow,that is the first time I heard the fall of Antioch described without mentioning Bohemond's little trick with Firouz. He made a bet with the rest of the Latin crusaders. Whoever could take Antioch would rule it and they all agreed not knowing Bohemond had already made a deal with Firouz. Also,the reason they were able to sally forth from the city and defeat Kerbogha was that they had supposedly found the Lance of Longinus inside the city. That is where it gets the reputation of making the bearer invincible. Crazy!
It got mentioned at the 12 minutes area.
Kinda wish more would have been covered on WHY Antioch was considered so valuble.
It was a strategically important location, easily defended. And it was large and well-populated by the time the Romans found it.
After that, the strategic location, as well as its historical significance to Christians, kept it important even after its population became but a shadow of itself at its height.
@@QBCPerdition Yeah that's basically what he said, I guess I was just hoping for more geography as to why it was strategically important and easily defended. That's easy to say, but I was just hoping for geographical specifics lol
@@Cifer77 The Romans built walls that encircled the city, even up into the mountains on its eastern flank, that were considered some of the most formidable fortifications in the world, rivaling the walls of Rome herself. As for geography, Antioch sat in a valley created by the Orontes River, essentially a mountain pass that was like a gateway from Anatolia to the Levant. So when the Crusaders entered the region, they couldn't move on to Jerusalem until they'd taken Antioch, it literally blocked their path. Same with every other invading army in both directions, that's why it was considered a border town.
It's all due to the geography of the region. The Orontes River valley offered relatively flat terrain in an otherwise mountainous/hilly region, so anyone marching from Anatolia to Syria either had to capture Antioch on the way, or take a huge detour.
least i've ever learnt in an 18 minutes span
I visited Antakya once in 1991 on my way from Incirlik to St. Peter's Grotto for a Good Friday mass. It seemed like a fairly typical Turkish city with a busy commerce and central marketplace. I saw some of the ruins, and was fascinated by the historical markers I saw everywhere. It is a worthwhile trip for anyone who finds themselves in the region.
I visited in 2019 for a wedding. It is a surprising, vibrant city with quite a night life. Planning on re-visiting whenever I get the chance. Their museum has about the best mosaics on display in the world. A bold claim. Well worth a visit.
It was recently split in two. Lucky you saw it before .
What was the reason for your visit? I would love to find out about historic memories that might never see day of light after the earthquake. I live in Dortyol Hatay which is right before Incirlik!
@@be1342 I was stationed at Incirlik during the First Gulf War.
_"Five is right out!!"_
-Book of Armaments 2 : 16
Skip a bit, brother….
Less than 2 weeks after this video was released a deadly earthquake hit that same area claiming thousands of lives. Terryfyingly prophetic.
Funny he mentions how geologically active it is. but Prophetic ... 🤷♂️
This is very much not forgotten, thank you Monty Python.
1:15 - Chapter 1 - Upon Alexander's grave
3:20 - Chapter 2 - Rome of the east
5:25 - Mid roll ads
6:55 - Chapter 3 - The cradle of christianity
8:35 - Chapter 4 - Downfall
10:45 - Chapter 5 - The crusade
13:25 - Chapter 6 - The principality
15:20 - Chapter 7 - The last crusade
GOAT
Why wouldn't ya ? Drop da bomb, kill'm all.
Added to my very long list of holiday destinations on a history tour!
😍 👍
I've lived off and on in Antioch, TN (part of greater Nashville). So like. I knew it was named after a real place, but I didn't know a lot about its history. Just another little reason I love Simon's videos.
hey same. almost died on bell road not long ago on a motorcycle. lolz
@@Penuts911 oh jesus. I'm sorry to hear that :( Bell Rd is a nightmare fr
@@AllisonGolightly it’s really is a jungle lol
it was right in front of home depot by 24. just getting worse by day
Unpopular opinion, but I would love if you guys would start a series on Biographics about the popes, and go threw them like you did with the US presidents and the pharaohs!
There are some stories there!
My opinion is that we Catholics seriously needed a socially-concious Jesuit as Pope FINALLY .
Excellent review in a short time. The literary record of the Crusaders' visit in Constantinople is the Aleksiad, written by Aleksios' daughter Anna, in which we have the only description of Bohemond, and it is clear that the Norman giant had rocked 16-year old Anna's little world, "towering a foot over of our own men, his chest is heaving with every breath, his laugh has a menacing quality" :)
This hits differently hearing it now after the recent earthquake..
And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chulapas.
I first learned of Antioch when converting to Orthodoxy. My first parish was under the Antiochian Archdiocese of America which is under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch and all the East
I grew up non-denominational evangelical and I almost converted to Orthodoxy 15 years ago, and I still have great admiration for the church. I attended an Antiochian Orthodox Church for about 4 years. I loved it, but eventually I had to move for work, and where I moved only had 1 Orthodox Church, I went a few times, but never really felt accepted, so eventually I stopped going. I moved recently (well 2 years ago) and now live in a city with a substantial Greek population and there is a large Greek Orthodox Church, I haven't gone, but I have often thought about it.
@@mattks1001 I highly recommend going to that Greek Church. I was pretty much raised Baptist, went to an Antiochian Church for a year, then started going to my friend’s Greek Church (more young adults). I love the community that I have
@@danfsteeple maybe I will go this coming Sunday.
I was considering Orthodoxy until Pope Francis came along, the first socially conscious Jesuit EVER elected Pope! A vast improvement!
I was going to say that as an Orthodox Christian, it was funny to hear it referred to as little known and forgotten. "Of course everyone knows about Antioch..."
That opening. So good.
Thank you for this information. The background data was very interesting. Thank you for all your work in the creation of this video.
Sigh. I was only aware of Antioch because historical war computer games. Well. Learning is learning I guess.
As you say, learning is learning. Don't discount where your knowledge comes from, that it came to you is more important.
"...and the occasional Monty Python reference." Sadly, that well-sums-up the history of the city. Nicely done team!
That painting of Bohemond I at 13:40 looks like a trading card. I can imagine impressionable kids back in the day wanting pictures of all the famous crusaders.
I am a native of the Hatay province, capital of which is Antioch.
Although I am from the northern region of the province with Turkish background and culture, I have always admired this arabic influenced city with roman, hellenistic, crusader and muslim heritage and ruins, rich culture, excellent cuisine which has become highly popular throughout Turkey, its religious diversity and its perfect, diverse climate with waterfalls of Harbiye (Dafni), rivers and streams, tens of highland resorts, rich fauna and biodiversity.
The city proper has a year long excellent breeze, which cools summer temperature. So much that Abu Ubayda, the first muslim commander capturing it from the Eastern Roman Empire, had feared that if he stayed in Antioch with his army any longer, this temporary world life could make his army forget about the real life, i.e the afterlife.
The entire province is a green paradise in the hot, arid middle east. There are around 5 thousand historic places in the province that are forbidden to excavate.
Unfortunately the 7.7 magnitude earthquake this year that shook the entire middle earth and half of Turkey was only 150 kms away and it destroyed Antioch once again this year to its foundations.
I'm watching this on the 26th of January. I REALLY really wish I watched this yesterday, because Simon quoting my favorite movie ever would've been the best effing birthday gift
What happened to the Sassanid City Called "Better Antioch"?
I'm not sure...
"Weh Antiok Khorsow" is now an Iraqi town called "Madain".
Hey I live in Antioch! Only not the Roman version. I'm in the suburb of Nashville Tennessee version. It's known for it's crime rate, terrible drivers and road rage! We have at least two murders a month, some of them combined with the aforementioned bad driving and road rage. Sometimes people don't even need to get out of their cars in order to take part in our murder rate, so that's pretty cool right? Oh and we were host to a mass shooting in a church a few years back that the media didn't cover once they realized the shooter didn't really fit the profile of the narrative they seem to be so eager to push! Such a great place to live! Man I'm so happy that it's changed so much from when I was a kid! Who wants to live in a place with minimal traffic, low rates of violent and property crime, and people that are nice? So boring right? Well we've got all the excitement you can handle now so if you're a murderous psychopath or someone who treats stop signs, traffic lights and just traffic laws in general as suggestions come on over, you'll fit right in!
Sounds like a typical american town. True americana.
@@enqrbit yeah, which is why we Americans wholly support diversity, especially in Finland. You need to be cultrally inricht
Unfortunately, the area was hard hit by the earthquake on February 6. Many lives lost and many of the historic buildings took heavy damage.
Serious help needed to rebuild the ancient city right now.
This is so sad and poignant after the earthquake. Desperate times. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿 Condolences to the loved ones of the dead, survivors and their loved ones. ❤️❤️❤️
Bohemond dueled his step brother over his fathers grave.. twice. legend. The relief force on its way to Antioch during the crusade was met by Bohemond and a group of calvery numbering around 500, Won a calvery charge outnumbered 3 to 1 and routed the enemy back to their camp before stripping the camp of supplies which where crucially needed for the siege around Antioch.
Crazy how when he says it was takin back in 969 and recaptured in 1084 we just brush over it like it wasn’t 125 years lol.
And its so widely separated in time from the previous period of East Roman possession.
Rather typical of Britishers these days; they don't talk about Christian victories because if they do, the bobbies will pop by to ask questions about problematic content without a loicence
I love the Seleucid empire it’s my fav but no one knows about it thanks for showing the beauty of Antioch
I think we can all safely assume that once Geographics covers the Castle Aaargh, our quest will be at an end
Hey Simon! An interesting topic to cover that has flown under the radar would be about deadmans island, its just off the coast of the Isle of Sheppey in kent. The remains of more than 200 humans has been found!
"A ton of people died. ANYWAY, Squarespace."
"Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out."
I know Simon likes to say that the past was the worst over on Cas Crim, but every remnant of something ancient fills me with both awe and sadness. Awe at seeing Roman ruins in Sicily with some of the best preserved Roman temples (Agrigento has an amazing temple) in the Roman Empire (Anatolia has some amazing ones as well). Sadness knowing I couldn't see them when they were all brightly painted and in active use. The feeling is very difficult to describe and I'm not sure I've conveyed it properly here. It's an amazing thing (both positive and negative) to try and understand how once bustling places, whether a city, a temple, or anything else, could be almost entirely (if not completely) forgotten. Then again, looking at the world today I guess it's not too difficult to see how people could forget. In my case it comes from having a father who played on ruined castle walls in Istanbul when he was a boy, and who showed archaeologists around the place when they showed up to work on it. So yeah, I love the history of Antioch, but I feel a sense of sadness at its ruin and subsequent loss of importance to the modern world.
'The spider weaves her web in the Imperial palace and the owl calls her watch-song in the towers of Afrasiab.'
Great video.
Came to the comments to ensure that the lasting legacy of its most holy of hand grenades was mentioned 👍👍
13:36 County of Tripoli, not country.
Good Morning Great Video 👍
Heliopolis also called On would be an interesting study.
“One…two..five!”
“Three, sir!”
“Three!”
I am proud to be from Antioch / Antakya !!!
I would love to visit a historic treasure like Antioch, perhaps one day I will?
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LOVE THE OPENING! FETCH THE HOLY HAND GRENADE OF ANTIOCH!
You have, Warographics, Geographics. What else?
Megaprojects
Casual Criminalist
Sideprojects
Into the shadows
Decoding the unknown
Biographics
Brain blaze
Today I found out and
Top Tenz (spelt like that)
My personal favourite is - Into the Shadows
@@EAcapuccino science of science fiction
edit to add highlight history and xplrd
xplrd seems dead, and highlight history isn't updated too often
@@EAcapuccino THAT MANY?!
@@VladVlad-ul1io Yes 😅
@@EAcapuccino oh my god. How do they do it? :)))
I knew Antioch was real, but the Holy Hand Grenade did come to mind for me, too.
Damn Simon is as quiet as a flies fart when talking about the subject matter of the video but when the Squarespace section comes the loudness blows up the speakers!
First excursion into the Whistlerverse today. Cheers
Earthquakes are a problem everywhere
I’m from Colombia,and the state where I’m from is named after this place .in Spanish is called Antioquia .also there’s many towns name after old world cities places like Cairo ,Damasco,Venecia,Armenia(there’s a state in Colombia also called Armenia)
Antakya, I believe they call it, over there.
Every time I hear "Remember the Alamo" I remember Antioch
Trianglespace - because who wants to be square when you're spaced?
This comment understands who watches these videos
"But of course! The holy hand grenade of Antioch!"
As soon as I heard "First, shalt thou take out the hewly pin" I knew I was watching this till the end
OK, I'll try to comment this time, and not to be a silly bugga. You must've had heaps of guts and inspiration to pull this one off! I listen to the 7 letters of Ignatius every time I finish Revelation. Ta! Good on ya mate!
I would pay all my money just to hear you narrate Monty Python's funniest joke in the world sketch. 😆 As it is, your intro made my day!
Mein hund hast nicht zchnauzer ! How. Does. It zmell ,? Awful!
Me , as well. Whistle thru yer teeth and spit !
That's my favorite movie!
Touché, starting with a Monty Python quote.
Between 1831 and 1840, Antioch was the military hwadquyof Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt during the Egyptian occupation of Syria, and served as a model site for the modernizing reforms he wished to institute.
Very interesting
Boy, Simon's coffee mug sure has some history doesn't it?
We should set up a GoFundMe to get him a new one.
This is where am from !!!
Yay
Unfortunately, we had to forget about Antioch, otherwise the whole story about the Crusades as western aggression wouldn't make any sense. Antioch was one of the 5 holy sites of Christianity (Paul's hometown and the city where most of the New Testament was written) and was conquered by Muslims right before the start of the First Crusade.
Holy handgranades!
O, you beat me to it.😆
5 is right out!
Who here returned after the Earthquakes in Turkey and Syria?
"Brother Maynard get the holy hand grenade of Antioch"
Missed opportunity for a super dark segue into the sponsor piece: "But if you're looking to start building your digital neighborhood, look no further than Squarespace!"
Hello Simon
Good morning it’s TIME TO LEARN
The Syriac Orthodox Church was headquartered in the "Cradle of Christianity", until it moved to Damascus later in time.
Do ctesephon next thiers like no videos on that city
Antioch is also mentioned in the movie Gladiator.
When?
I never knew about some of the history.
Prague next!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 simon shall be the voice of square space meme. Dude hope they pay you well, beside skill up you two are the current meme of the company, in the best way
Banger
Just 10 days after you shared the video, the city destructed by an earthquake again.
I'd like to see a deep dive into the Justinian Dynasty
Holy hand grenade of Antioch
Just conquered it in Medieval Total War 2.
That bit at the and about expansion of the modern city, once again, causes me to ask: Why did the people in the olden times build their cities underground?
We're forever excavating the things or brushing the dirt away.
:)
Sadly, this area has once again been decimated by earthquakes.
Just like Antioch, CA fr
I am impressed with the amount of interesting content you and your team produce and publish. Your stamina and tenacity are notable.
Random kid: "I wanna hear the loudest sound on Earth?!"
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About Sangreal, Sangius Realis, Sangre Real:
"And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee."
Book of Mark
Everybody knows that Antioch is a suburb north of Chicago
The February 6th 2023 earthquakes in the same general region show that the risk of disaster is no less significant now as it was over 2000 years ago.
AND HE DOES GEOGRAPHY WHAT DOES THIS MAN NOT DO
grow hair
Talk at a normal consistent speed or volume.
Holy and divine ❤
For some reason, this episode is hard for me to hear Simon. So I have my volume turned all the way up as well. Simon, can you speak a little louder, please?
To keep the MP theme going "5 IS RIGHT OUT!!".
This guy definitely went on a "Gap Yaa"
Reminds me of Ephesus.
The chariot race in the historical novel “Ben Hur: A Tale of the Christ” takes place in Antioch.
Before I start watching, wasn't that constantinople?
Yes, modern day Istanbul? 🕌
Absolutely love Geographics Eh!
Well, Antioch was founded six or seven centuries before Constantinople.
@@thorr18BEM 6 or 7 centuries?
So not even In Alexander's time 😅
@@maplesyrup7959 it was founded in the upheaval of his death. One of his generals named it.