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Final Audio D8000 pro first impressions! Is this the most detailed headphone?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- My first impressions on the Final Audio D8000pro, a wonderfully detailed headphone that will show you all the best and worst parts of your music and your gear.
For me this beats out the Hifiman Susvara, Focal Utopia & Audeze LCD4 when it comes to detail retrieval and resolution. It does in my opinion however need some really first class equipment driving the unit.
For me something like tubes really helped eliminate the dryness in the sound and bring some life and true enjoyment out of them.
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Can't wait for the full review man. This channel is going from strength to strength.
Thanks Dan :)
Appreciate the support it means a lot!
Awesome review, those headphones look sick!
Let me know your thoughts and anything you would like addressed in the full review :)
In the next video I'd love to know more about the stack you're using them with and how reactive they are to different equipment. These are intriguing. I'd love to try these out next to Stax 009S - are you able to compare with electrostatic, even if it's says a SR-700?
@@dancseko4797 good idea I will get onto it!
have you compared the pro to the HEDD headphone?
@@dancseko4797 I have compared the final d8000 (but not the pro version) to 009. I have both of them for a while. The 009 is still more resolving. But d8000 is among the most resolving non-estat headphone. I have since sold the d8000, but want it back !
Solid review man! 👌🏽
thankyou kindly music production wizard
TT2 w/ scaler is my everyday drive too, and also hook up with a tube amp when I want to be serious about listening to music too.
Very hard to beat. I seriously love the M-scaler its amazing and with the TT-2 youre going to get amazing detail and depth
The RAAL SR1A (using ribbons drivers ans speaker amp) is supposed to be one of the most detailed and neutral headphone (earspeaker ) available today... Have you heard it and compared? (I haven't yet)
I have not compared them directly unfortunately so it is hard for me to provide a definitive response here Christian
love it brother keep it up
Have you heard Abyss TC? If so how does it compare?
Umm The phi TC (the latest and greatest) has some definite advantages when it comes to dynamic capability and bass capability, BUT, I feel this one has the edge on the most true to source presentation of the music and microdynamics (slightly)
Not sure I agree about the price of gear and its relationship to bass etc. You can get very close to perfection with it comes to detail, transparency and gobsmack of power these days with a system well below 1000 and prices are falling. You might not get the sweet mids and holographic imaging of a really good tube amp but that comes down to preference. Personally, I like a bit of soul to my music and many high end headphones lack that so you need to add it in the chain and still try to keep technicalities high.
I definitely respect your point of view. When wanting that last bit of true detail and hyper resolution the cost does go through the roof.
But as with almost everything the pareto principal applies. Having spent alot of time with Focal, PMC and ATC. I have heard layers of details that kind of spoiled me in speakers and has made a harsh critic out of me.
Saying that, I have had very very enjoyable listening sessions out of low cost systems
Awesome video, have you heard the original D8000 before? Also, do you prefer this to the LCD-4 and Utopia so far? Thanks.
Yeah I do definately prefer these to the original D8000 both for the tuning and it seems the technical capability too is improved.
The LCD-4 is better for the bass but needs EQ and EQ brings problems with imaging and others.
The Utopia is very revealing in the upper midrange and does depth the best and has a really good slam in the upper bass frequencies
@@BelieveHiFi does the Utopia beat the Verite open en Verite closed in terms of soundstage depth?
@@vincenthusvh I Feel as though it does but it definitely sacrifices width. the peak is also lower in teh frequency range than on the verite
Do you like the Pro more than the original D-8000?
yes definitely!!
is this still your pick for the best reference end game set of cans?
absolutely they are. Although I do enjoy the ZMF, HiFiMan and Focal cans in my collection too
These are open back? Do they bleed out a lot?
yeah they bleed a fair bit
You mentioned it was good on tube amps, what Solid State did you like with it?
The SimAudio moon 430HA (probably the best, although its a little "gentle" sounding, Violectric V281 too, although the V281 sounds great with most anything
Which of the flagships that you've listed to, do you like with very transparent SS gear? I have a benchmark DAC3B + HPA4 as my main system. Kinda leaning toward ZMF headphones as my next upgrade. I think I like a slightly darker / warmer presentation.
the Arya was a fantastic pairing for me on very transparent SS gear. This D8k pro could come across a little too dry and sterile BUT it would present crazy detail.
ZMF is a good option I do love all their headphones however I really think they do sound best on Tubes. You would maybe go for the bigger pads as that tends to soften the sound a little.
What music do you mainly listen to and what exactly do you want out of this headphone?
@@BelieveHiFiI'm thinking of getting the Arya's. What amp would you recommend? I'm considering the A90 or the Flux FA-10. Budget up to $2500 USD. Thanks!
Very persuasive review of the D8k pro btw, would've bought them if not for the price and the weight.
@@jrg5948 do you want an all in one amp+DAC combination or a seperate amp and dac stack?
@@BelieveHiFi I was thinking maybe combo for better synergy or cheaper price but if a separate stack gives even better sound/synergy then I'm all for it. Thanks!
@@jrg5948 well I think you could stack the A90 with a chord Qutest. Should synergize well. the a90 leans slightly warm and euphonic whilst the Qutest is right down the line. In this stack your DAC will be the hero.
The Burson conductor is a great budget all in one. But the stacks at your budget will serve you much better.
Ill give you 3 pathways
1) if you want a more euphoric sound the Woo audio WA2 will add soundstage, warmth, richness and really make them sound sweet.
2) Feliks audio Elise is another great amp at arround 1.5k that is a tube but it is almost solid state sounding
3) for solid state I would look at the Violectric V280 or the headamp GSX mini. Violectric is slightly warmer the GSX mini has slightly more slam
The best DAC to combine with those 3 amps for your budget is probably the Denafrips Ares II
Would the D8000 pro pair well with the DCS BArtok dac and headphone amp?
should be perfect.
The DCS has quite a round sound to it and isnt too sharp so they should compliment each other very well. Although for that price you could go for a Bricasti M3H paired with the Pathos inpol ear which I think is better combination for strictly headphone listening
Really interesting, what is your tubes amp ?
I had a few
WA2, inpol ear were the ones I lived with the longest
Is this the best headphone you've heard so far?
I would say so IF, big IF, you have very very good equipment feeding them and prefferably a tube amp too as they can be a little dry.
If you do not wat to spend crazy $$$ on Amps and DAcs I would probably go with the Verite or Verite Closed for a dynamic otherwise the Arya for a planar
Hello!, Im looking to buy a flagship headphone like the D8000 pro edition. I recently got the arya and found them to be a bit bright and harsh especially in the s and t of vocals. would the d8000 pro be less harsh and sharp than the arya. Greatly appreciate it if you can give me some advice. 😊 Thanks. Im driving them directly of the hugo 2
Lots of reviewers say the LCD 4 is more detailed. Is this honestly as good?
I would say except from the bass regions the D8000pro wins out for sure.
Did you listened it with the luxman p-750u? Really expensive.
no I didnt, havent tried the pairing
Hi, when the full review is coming? Did you keep it for yourself?
The full review should be soon,
I just moved to Malta and its very busy. I am also launching my HiFi business which has taken ALOT of time.
I did buy them actually. They are my end game, however they really do need a great amp and are incredibly revealing of every part of the system. My ststem arround them cost triple the price of the headphones hahah
@@BelieveHiFi Best of luck my friend.
When is the full review coming up?
I just moved over to Malta so I have been preoccupied trying to sort out life here.
I would say within the next 4-6 weeks
What was the tube amp that wowed you so much?
a WA5 that was tube rolled with some pretty exotic tubes (cant remember exactly which ones)
However even on the stock WA2 they sound fantastic for the price of this amp
Unfortunately I havn't got a chance to hear them on the inPol ear yet which is probably the best headamp ive heard
How wide is the soundstage compared to the HD800?
It isnt as wife as the HD800, nothing is, BUT I believe it is more true to source when it comes to soundstage.
The HD800 makes everything sound wide even if its meant to be intimate.
Is this suitable for large scale classical music?
Fantastic for it :)
You get a really amazing sense of scale, not just width but height and depth
What others hps you had in the past? It seems to me you started yesterday...
I have owned:
Utopia
1000v2
Arya
Hd800s
Hd 600
HD 660s
LCD X
ZMF Verite C
64audio u12t
Etc etc etc.
Due to making friends with an awesome local store for headphones (minidisc sydney), I was visting a few times a week for a period of a few years. In which time I have had fairly long listening experience with and in depth discussions about:
Full stax range including
Full Hifiman Range
Full Mr Speakers range
Full Audeze range
Full Senn range
Full Focal range
+ many many more
This listening time is probably in the thousands of hours to be honest, surprised they never got sick of me hahaha
Believe HiFi Very nice my friend..... it looks like you got lots of experience. I will be waiting for your review of the Final Audio D8k Pro. Cheers 🍻