I had the chance to audition these extensively before ending buying some other headphones. The taste I was left with is that these look better than they sound.
For me it’s the best in my system especially in regards to detail in treble. Bricasti m3, Pathos inPol-ear The soundstage is interesting because it presents each song as it is. Sometimes wide and sometimes narrow and intimate. I still think the LCD4 beats it in regards to the bass quality but in the higher frequencies especially nonEQ the d8000pro has its number. Definitely shines on tube amps that’s for sure
I’d call the aesthetic “retro-futuristic” rather than steampunk, it’s Astro Boy’s headphone. 🚀 Just needs a thicker headband pad with a central cutout (like Sennheisers) for pointy heads like mine.
How does regular D8000 compare to D8000 Pro? Is it the same technicalities with different tuning and is Pro that much better to justify the price difference?
I have the Final Audio Sonorous X...which sounds pretty darn good with my tube DAP... but I continue to wonder how the D8000 would compare with those. I know the 16 ohm dynamic Sonorous would be easier to drive... and certainly are one of the best *looking* cans on the planet...but I wonder which one sounds better. Has anyone at H.S. tried those in the past? Love their products. About to pick up some form of the Piano Forte line (VII, IX or X) to complement because that's the only IEMs I can handle (no ear close-off!).
@@allansh828 i slightly agree with you, although at around 4k mark "at least" i'm not sure if it will get significantly better if you double your budget or so.
@@TheMightyMedia I find the Abyss PHI TC more comfortable than the Hifiman HE1000SE despite its higher weight. After a while the Hifiman pressed on my head, this problem does not exist with the Abyss because it has no contact pressure. The last PHI TC version has a thicker headband, which significantly improves wearing comfort. I made an unboxing video on my channel where you can also see the new headband.
I have strongly considered these headphones but that weight I can't deal with it. I may consider the Susvara but I don't listen to classical and jazz that much. I'm a country, rock, folk/Americana, pop, and hip-hop guy.
Yes. The D8000 pro is much better in terms of detail retrieval. I do think the Empyrean has a more spacious soundstage. The FR of the D8000 pro is more agreeable though, so it will sound better out of the box
@@x32i77 for detail retrieval, frequency response and soundstage: d8000 pro. Build quality is a tie. For everything else: Verite (closed). The customer service of ZMF is also outstanding and you get lifetime warranty on the drivers
Slight edge to LCD-4 and detail and slam, slight edge to D8K Pro on stage and imaging. Significant edge to D8K Pro on tonal balance without EQ. But all of this also depends on the LCD4 being compared.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow I heard Audeze shares the frequency response of their headphones if you give them serial number of the unit. So people who can EQ can do better with Audeze actually. Some people buying minidsp ears just for EQ. BTW it would be cool if you can review the latest LCD 2C and 2F together. Especially 2F tonality doesn't look that bad compared to LCD X. There is too much noise on the internet when it comes to Audeze with all the revisions. As a trusted reviewer your take on latest Audeze LCD would help clear things up. I also heard LCD 2/2C pretty consistent unlike X and 4 nowadays.
The graph they send you is from a KU100, which is not a headphone measurement system, it's a binaural microphone. So not exactly all that helpful. Rumor I hear is the Audezes have started graphing very poorly in the last few years due to a memory foam pad change
I haggled about $2250 used they finally displaced my beloved D9200 as my #1. The Arya SE I bought 2 weeks earlier have a touch more glare, mid bass and width but less detail, layering, holographics and timbre - otherwise verrrry similar.
1:02 this is where we can already tell it's overpriced. A flagship headphone of this price, shouldn't need to be EQ'd at all. This is not a 1K HD800, this is over 4k!!!!!
Horrible freq. response. Most pleasant frequencies are sucked out, and most irritating frequencies are attenuated. I get a toothache just by looking at that graph...
![If you can't hear this then you're not an audiophile [See description for link to followup video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/48PxwspDvrE/mqdefault.jpg)
Definitely like the harmon combined target curve for the most part..Great review, Andrew. 👍🏼💯
How do u stack up to other flagship planars
I'm not as detailed.
doesn't that depend on whether you are into serious audiophile music? :D
Damn I failed hard then
The HEADPHONE Show not as much bottom end ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@dleblanc343 hopefully his gf doesn't think that
Andrew I would love to feel the chills you are experiencing but you have to let me win the giveaways man promise I won't tell a soul
I am a fan of the design. It has an industrial look like the earpieces were part of a machine.
I had the chance to audition these extensively before ending buying some other headphones. The taste I was left with is that these look better than they sound.
"but I do listen to a lot of garbage"
Most audiophiles also does but don't want to admit.
I listen to way more
that would be an oxymoron !?
For me it’s the best in my system especially in regards to detail in treble.
Bricasti m3, Pathos inPol-ear
The soundstage is interesting because it presents each song as it is. Sometimes wide and sometimes narrow and intimate.
I still think the LCD4 beats it in regards to the bass quality but in the higher frequencies especially nonEQ the d8000pro has its number.
Definitely shines on tube amps that’s for sure
Thats the type of planar I want, one that shines on tube
I’d call the aesthetic “retro-futuristic” rather than steampunk, it’s Astro Boy’s headphone. 🚀
Just needs a thicker headband pad with a central cutout (like Sennheisers) for pointy heads like mine.
An excellent review, sir. You have a new subscriber.
The D8000 standard is bass heavier than the Pro
ive absolutely floored by this headphone, making me look twice at my utopia and lcd24...
I am probably the only one who ordered the black D8k pro.
Would be awesome to see an AB 1266 Phi TC review from you.
I always thought this was dynamic like ADX5000 lol. So D8000 planar too hah. It looks like closed back ADX5000.
Buy these headphones than Audezee and Hifimans. Japan brands are more durable.
You had me at $4,500.
How does regular D8000 compare to D8000 Pro? Is it the same technicalities with different tuning and is Pro that much better to justify the price difference?
Gosh that intro..... never gets old
I have the Final Audio Sonorous X...which sounds pretty darn good with my tube DAP... but I continue to wonder how the D8000 would compare with those. I know the 16 ohm dynamic Sonorous would be easier to drive... and certainly are one of the best *looking* cans on the planet...but I wonder which one sounds better. Has anyone at H.S. tried those in the past?
Love their products. About to pick up some form of the Piano Forte line (VII, IX or X) to complement because that's the only IEMs I can handle (no ear close-off!).
Hey Andrew please do a review on 560s I wanna hear your thoughts on them
Soon. Hard to get ahold of one at the moment
don't forget you need at least another $4000 for DAC/AMP for $4000 headphones.
not always the case, but i suppose the more you have the better it may improve.
@@rekkiesbub423 cheap component won't have good synergy with high end headphones. It just doesn't happen.
@@allansh828 i slightly agree with you, although at around 4k mark "at least" i'm not sure if it will get significantly better if you double your budget or so.
@@allansh828 I use them with 100$ dac and 100$ amp and they are great
@@Tacet137 $2000 headphone + $2200 DAC/AMP would sound better tho.
how do these compare to the hedd headphones?
what's the fastest headphone? Diana Phi, Utopia, HEKSE, Susvara or 1266 TC?
SR-009S
Out of these probably Susvara or ab1266tc.
I am very happy with my Abyss PHI TC, best headphones i ever had. Before that I had a Hifiman HE1000SE. 🙃
Paul Noir I have a HEKSE atm, how’s comfort on 1266?
@@TheMightyMedia I find the Abyss PHI TC more comfortable than the Hifiman HE1000SE despite its higher weight. After a while the Hifiman pressed on my head, this problem does not exist with the Abyss because it has no contact pressure. The last PHI TC version has a thicker headband, which significantly improves wearing comfort. I made an unboxing video on my channel where you can also see the new headband.
How does this compare to the Heddphone? And what's that source gear next to the headphones in the thumbnail?
Waiting for this too
I have strongly considered these headphones but that weight I can't deal with it. I may consider the Susvara but I don't listen to classical and jazz that much. I'm a country, rock, folk/Americana, pop, and hip-hop guy.
Do you try it with tubes amp ?
Definitely shines with tubes in my system
@@themosyannakou6893 Thanks ! What kind of tubes amp ?
@@issekinicho I tried with WA2, Feliks Euphoria & pathos inpol ear.
prefer utopia or d8000 pro?
I do own the meze empyrean headphones , is it worth upgrading ?
Yes. The D8000 pro is much better in terms of detail retrieval. I do think the Empyrean has a more spacious soundstage. The FR of the D8000 pro is more agreeable though, so it will sound better out of the box
@@vincenthusvh and what about the slam and dynamics ? The meze got almost none
@@x32i77 i think the punch and slam is decent on the Empyrean. The D8000pro is definitly a cut above in that aspect
@@vincenthusvh cant decide which one to get , verité closed or d8000 pro . I am considering to sell my meze empyrean ..
@@x32i77 for detail retrieval, frequency response and soundstage: d8000 pro.
Build quality is a tie.
For everything else: Verite (closed). The customer service of ZMF is also outstanding and you get lifetime warranty on the drivers
How do you get on your discord group?
I don't have a specific discord group at the moment.
Do you have the Monarch in yet?
Not yet. Possibly in a week or two.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow After crins review I'm really interested
This versus LCD-4 in detail, stage and imaging? I've heard both but months apart, so I can't say...
Slight edge to LCD-4 and detail and slam, slight edge to D8K Pro on stage and imaging. Significant edge to D8K Pro on tonal balance without EQ. But all of this also depends on the LCD4 being compared.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Yeah, that aligns with my impressions too.
lol was gonna say just about anything is gonna have a better FR
@@TheHEADPHONEShow I heard Audeze shares the frequency response of their headphones if you give them serial number of the unit. So people who can EQ can do better with Audeze actually. Some people buying minidsp ears just for EQ.
BTW it would be cool if you can review the latest LCD 2C and 2F together. Especially 2F tonality doesn't look that bad compared to LCD X. There is too much noise on the internet when it comes to Audeze with all the revisions. As a trusted reviewer your take on latest Audeze LCD would help clear things up. I also heard LCD 2/2C pretty consistent unlike X and 4 nowadays.
The graph they send you is from a KU100, which is not a headphone measurement system, it's a binaural microphone. So not exactly all that helpful. Rumor I hear is the Audezes have started graphing very poorly in the last few years due to a memory foam pad change
I haggled about $2250 used they finally displaced my beloved D9200 as my #1.
The Arya SE I bought 2 weeks earlier have a touch more glare, mid bass and width but less detail, layering, holographics and timbre - otherwise verrrry similar.
very similar haha Arya is just missing the best part 🤣🤣
Dont be ignorant on a EQ ”solution”. Theres no such thing as fixing the sound by degrading the signal and no EQ is good enough. Phase shift is real
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Not perfect. Just too heavy.
A bit. Still lighter than many of the other high end ones, but yeah... needs a suspension style headband for this kind of weight.
The HEADPHONE Show For a little bit more you can get the Shangri-La Jr. I am itching lol
You can usually hear those at canjam, if it ever becomes safe again to have a headphone listening event someday
metal571 Yes, hopefully life will come back to normal my friend.
Please review Sivga Phoenix $255 at amazon and those are awesome open back headphone for bass. Zeos hyped about it. 🙏😍😍
zeos hypes about everything
Zeos opinion is worthless
Final Audio is way too warm and delicate and subdued a sound. Across their entire range. Flop.
1:02 this is where we can already tell it's overpriced. A flagship headphone of this price, shouldn't need to be EQ'd at all. This is not a 1K HD800, this is over 4k!!!!!
All headphones benefit from EQ. Flagships are no exception.
Listen to reason, EQ is almost always good... even if used only for bass to adjust to taste
Weirdly the only headphones I have used that I could use without eq were the sundara
@@garygriffiths7353 Pretty much yeah.
I eq with tube rolling and I find my d8k pros to be the best hp to date especially with the tubes.
Horrible freq. response. Most pleasant frequencies are sucked out, and most irritating frequencies are attenuated. I get a toothache just by looking at that graph...