Noob's Guide to Brakes!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- HIPPITY HOPPITY, IT'S TIME TO STOPPITY. 6 Piston Brembo Brakes DO make your car faster by reducing lap times. Take that naysayers on my Cheap Cars That Look Rich video! Also, little known fact, but Red Brake Calipers actually add 100,000 BRAKE Horsepower. Hence why it's called, "Brake Horsepower". Duh. Also if you thought 8 pistons were ridiculous, in 2007, some companies made 12 piston calipers for sports cars. However, It didn't take long before realizing pistons alone aren't what determine stopping power, so those were seen as a gimmicky phase.
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Dit you now that drumbrakes on smalltire trailers voor trucks brake better than discs. Because the have more surface to brake. I am talking about 17 inch wheels. I drive a 2019 daf with brake discs on the truck and drumbrakes on the trailer.
Ahhhh, Thank you for the insight. That makes sense. Someone earlier tried to convince me they were good on freaking Semi's, but I wrote that off as economic reason. But for a small trailer, I can see why they'd be preferable.
Bladed Angel their not good for heavy transport, I work for commercial bus company and not only did drum brake perform worst than disc brakes after first application, but in long distance traveling, drum brakes generally caused the wheel bearings to overheat and wear out. (I work on full floating axles so there’s two wheel bearings). In my opinion, disc brakes all he way
@@vidar8117 I agree with that. For a heavy semi, they still use Discs in front, and only use drums due to economic reasons (it's cheaper to replace 8 drums as opposed to 8 discs). But the guy I pinned is making a point about small trailers. His main truck still has discs, but for a small trailer, it really would be an absolute waste to have discs on them. Very viable application IMO.
Bladed Angel actually some semi have disc brake on all wheels now, I’ve seen some kenworth, prevost, and MCI put them on newer vehicles, and yeah for a light trailer I can still see the drum being useful
@@vidar8117 That's good to hear. Thank God Semi companies aren't cheaping out anymore. I had a commenter earlier who tried so hard to convince me that Semi's were better off with Drums. I really wasn't buying it. I appreciate your insight as someone whose directly involved in the industry.
*BRAKES ONLY SLOW YOU DOWN*
Take them off for weight reduction
Spoken like a true mad man.
I love it.
U tryna out race death ?
fast way to see the other side
WELL THERES'S ONE THING THAT WILL ALWAYS STOP YOU : A WALL
Or trees made of military grade aluminium.
Just paint them red
Braking : 10
just put a Brembo sticker and your car will get 50 extra bhp
Red paint gives you 20 hp increase if red brembos thats 100hp
Its like +5hp per caliper for painted red, +15 if ifs brembos, +20 if its red brembos
So according to ork logic you go faster or break faster? Maybe both.
The best brakes are the ones that work
You know what? Drum brakes still work after all. Maybe I was too harsh!
The real OG's out there living the NO BRAKE LIFE. Because brakes are for cowards!😂
Bladed Angel I have no brakes cause I have no car
This is what we call a pro gamer move
@@pieyield2255 Damn.
@@vercetti- setting a 0-400-0 speed record with braking with the drivers leg.
@@akhyarrayhka4048 that gives me physical pain
Bladed: DON'T GET THESE UNLESS YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT TRACK
My daily Civic: 🐢
Heavily breathing in VTEC
Wilwood makes 4 piston DPHA calipers.
For 400$ thats one hell of a better investment than the stock 1 large piston on oem civics 89-mid 2000s
Meada Kazuya since when was willwood so cheap. I wish my car wasnt 4grand in upgrades.
@@Sak-zo1ui Yea, civics and acuras are very cheap and mod potential cars. And im glad wilwood made a very good caliper set for them. Wilwood also sells a bbk for 1.8k iirc.
I've been drinking brake fluid for years...I'm definitely not addicted.
I can stop any time!
SoZ
Ha-ha
You again!
@@olakeonda9471
He's not on my YT channel (not this account)
Midnight club hello good sir
Bruh who needs brakes thats why we have trees
Haha
Hit a tree on monday; can confirm great stopping ability although I'm not sure if im supposed to be sore
Especially if it’s made of military grade aluminium.
I been trying to explain this but people dont get it.
R.S. Lozano you probably weren’t going fast enough that’s why your sore
Drilled rotors kinda remind me on my first eraser. I drilled holes in it and wondered why they broke while erasing.
But the question is...did it at least erase really nice with great heat dissipation? 😂
@@BladedAngel nope, i wrote duck but i wrote a ugly looking d so i erased it and while erasing it it broke and the d turned to a f.
Dion Boii well shit
@@BladedAngel heat dissipation is great AF
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2:58 disc brakes look way better than drum brakes when rust starts to form.
drums just end up looking like a hunk of rust behind your wheels (which is probably why most old cars had giant hub caps to hide them lol)
To be fair, no brakes look good when rust starts to form, but Discs are WAYYY easier to remove rust.
@@BladedAngel i guess a better way to say what i meant is that it takes longer for rust to form on disc brakes sense the friction will remove some of the rust from the rotors. so they stay shinier for longer.
@@BladedAngel discs shouldn't even form rust if you use them
My Suzuki SX-4 that has quad (all wheel) disc brakes has rust at its rotors due to the car is 9 years old currently. The rust would be dissappear after usage to long trip.
My Noobs guide on Brakes: Brembos are expensive. So paint your calipers red and put a Brembo sticker on them. Boom more stopping power added!!!
The Ike be careful, I’ve heard the sticker adds an extra 50 horsepower
@@wholelottadrout5236 Right so with a magical conversion... I would say that every sticker equals about 5 ft reduction in braking distance.
The Ike correct
better brake hp
I love this thread
Unless you have deep ass pockets DO NOT buy drilled and slotted brakes! They wear out faster.
Especially for drilled...
Y'ALL MIND IF I CRACK AND WARP?????
Meanwhile slotted (as long as it's not a ton of them) can still last a long time! I've had my slotted ones on my Z06 for 21K miles now. Still good! not great, as I've wailed on them while going down Blood mountain. Can't say the same for my brake pads though. While learning how to properly go down a mountain, I ATE THROUGH BRAKE PADS!! But better safe, than...well over a cliff and dead :P
@@BladedAngel love how slottet brakes look though
But they look cool
@@chubski2514 but they hella expensive
Depends on the car. If it’s a daily dont.
Nah, Imma keep using the Emergency Brake. They stop the wheels immediately.
Touche.
Also NGL, I pictured a very hilarious image of a Mustang sliding into a crowd after seeing your PFP, but as a former Mustang owner, I should know better than that!
Your Noob series is really helpful and informative
The fact that you directly go straight to the subject in not even 3 seconds deserves a huge like.
the best way to learn to ‘use’ your brakes is to think “brakes stop your tires, they don’t always stop your car”
Should I put brembo brakes on my bicycle?
_Yes._
I'mma put a brembi sticker on my bicycle brake
Carbonifed YES
yess
U dont need brakes weight reduction bro
We dont need brakes
-I use body braking on every corner-
EDIT: *SCREW BODY BRAKING*
*NAKAZATO TACTICS FOR LIFE*
ouch
RageGamer YT no that’s why you use gutter technique
@@buntafujiwara5069 or no hand drift?
You drive a GTR or something?
*NO-DORIFUTO-GRIP-ALL-THE-WAY!*
4:04 did anyone else notice that the rock on the left said "LEY SEX"😂
Lol
Good eye
@@mountainracing2145 haha lmao
Apologies for the audio quality. I'm currently traveling right now, so I don't have access to my usual setup!
It's ok i could not even tell!
nice
Our ears are destroyed from listening to exhaust tones. Trust me. No one noticed.
@@quinngoodman1078 Thank you. LMAO
Bladed Angel out of curiosity where are you traveling?
I just started getting into cars so that I can start to slowly fix up a classic car (my parents have garage queened our 68 mustang since they can’t afford to fix it) and your noobs videos have been SO incredibly helpful. You explain things clearly and thoroughly without adding any condescending comments at the viewer, and your use of photos and clips really make it easier to understand. I haven’t found any series on cars that have been as helpful as this one. Keep up the great work!! 💙🚗
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Short version
"So they are bad at about everything except driving at 25mph in a straight line."
Could you do a “The SSC freaking Ultimate Aero” video?
The obese freaking diablo
Damn the last "The X freaking Y" video was more than a year ago, and basically same goes for "X cars in 4 words". Feels old man, but the new, informative Bladed is also really enjoyable
Brembo brakes are the best!
They must be red too.
^^^
@@BladedAngel I have black factory Brembos that don't even say Brembo on them.
@@joshjlmgproductions3313 car
@@joeyknight8272 2010 WRX STI.
Hi I'm chonky.
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Hi chonky, I’m dad
Thanks, Blade. I fell in love with the 1971 ford pinto a year ago after watching the Netflix series "Fastest Car" and hearing the story behind the built pinto. After seeing the way he was able to love that car and that it's so underestimated I ended up falling in love with it. I'm 14 now and I'm planning on getting my hands on either a 1971 ford pinto, R32, S14, or a used Toyota Corolla so your videos have helped me in learning more about cars and what I can do to make my vehicle match the way I drive and use my car as efficiently as possible in the way I want to use it. So thank you for helping me become more educated as a young up and coming car guy
Thanks a bunch for this video Bladed, been so confused as to what brakes to get since I wanted to upgrade for my Mustang GT, you’re such a great help for a completely hopeless car noob like me!
Brakes, who needs brakes or safety at all, Laughes In MR2
I definitely have to agree, my drilled and slotted rotors on my mostly stock Z are overkill as hell, but I do love having them just for the hell of it.
Bladed, could you make a whole playlist of all the Noob's Guide things? I am becoming a car enthusiast and want to know about how each part of a car works. Thanks
Already have, here you go: th-cam.com/play/PLcZdbW0McgT2N6tyx5JJcdeq2lHDgIzxW.html
And th-cam.com/play/PLcZdbW0McgT1Zq8M5btoliU6WQ-akfIBI.html
I sincerely hope TH-cam and these playlists are intact when my nephews and niece are old enough to become interested in cars
I just discovered this channel and i think it's awsome. Funny too, really helps to when starting out like financing
My dad my brother and I started repairing my dads 65 mustang we took off the drum brakes and put on disc brakes and replaced the radiator so far we have more planned
Oh what you planing
Joey Knight so far body work and other engine refinements
@@firefightszz ls
Would love to see the progress
LS SWAP IT LOL 😂😂😂
Thanks for making these videos man I'm a bignner and have always wanted to learn about cars so I don't go in blind. Thanks man.
I love how disc brakes glow, it looks so good
I love how your titles are only mildly insulting.
I did as a joke, and then the YT Algorithm was like, "Oh this series name ranks really high in SEO, so yeah, guess you're stuck with it"
So stuck with it, I am!
@@BladedAngel Not mad about it.
@@BladedAngel so you’re telling me that the algorithm is calling us all noobs
Wow honestly I was looking for this video 4 days ago but wow here it is lol awesome video like always!
Thanks bro this man gets straight to point!! Respect ✊ 👌🏼😀
Very good video man! keep it up🔥
Awesome video! However I wish you specifically went into detail about floating vs non-floating brake callipers.
But this was really informative 🤙
I only got drilled rotors with 1521 pads because I do alot of mountain runs even though I drive a suv. I do drive in hard up and down the road and I would usually kill my rotors and pads after only 30k miles so I decided to upgrade and they do a great job
Finally a good car channel
Proud to say i’ve just fitted slotted ventilated brembo xmax brake discs with ebc yellowstuf pads on my 90 hp tdi golf
Something you forgot to mention about slotted/drilled discs is their ability to channel braking dust away. Its important when braking harder for long periods of time as the brake dust will reduce the braking force. Hence that's why you have discs that are both drilled and slotted
I have an eBay disk brake set up that just came in the mail! I dunno why that makes me so happy cuz of this video
Really cool and helpful video ,thanks
I have drilled and slotted rotors on my 03 Honda Accord because that what it came with when I bought it used.
Drum brakes are the parking brakes in certain manufacturers vehicles.....
P.S.: THANKYOU for pointing out what slotted and drilled rotors are for. You wouldn't believe the ongoing arguements on many forums over their usefulness, or lack thereof. Most of those guys seriously believe they are only to look pretty. Honestly most of those guys don't even brive their performance vehicles like performance vehicles 🤢
Great vid bladed
Nice video. Thanks for the input.
I have carbon ceramic drum brakes in my 94 Honda civic.
"I think you need to change/check your brake(pad)" ... big brake life lol!
My number 1 rule is to not do a brake delete for “ race car it makes it lighter bro “
4:19 The HD Meme man is making me uncomfortable
For all these people that want to upgrade brakes at all, go for tires first. They help more with having a contact patch that wants to stick to the road. Go try dragging your toes across the ground then drag your foot, your foot will be harder to move as there's a better contact patch. That's basically how your tires work when braking
these videos are so interesting for non car guys thanks
Slots in rotors also clean off the brake dust and debris while braking, increasing the longevity of the rotor
You can daily slotted and drilled if you downshift to your stop and only use them lightly. Wear down slower and it's there when you want to have those spirited driving
Drums work great for semi, and they are super easy to work on. Reason why they are better on semi is because it covers more surface area. Super easy uses 3 springs.
I’m a car mechanic in the UK, rear drums are absolutely fine and not expensive to replace at all. Infact for a 20 year old car it could potentially be on its original set and in good working order.
I run legit police pads and LV dot5.1 with solid HD disc rotors it stops on the dime and last 2 years before they ever start squealing, bout 30-50$ for all four wheels plus the rotors last 100k miles easy. I use anti squeal springs that quicken and even out the piston return force too so its an all around good stopper with rubber lines and I havent overshot any stops sprinting through lights or dead stopping at 75mph downhill for a 2008 mercury mountaineer weighed down, every year if the brake fluids dirty enough I flush the brake system clear
The best cheap/effective setup is slotted discs with standard pads. They are cheap and the slots will take care of the extra dust. Vented ofc
I could be wrong but I thought that the reason slotted/drilled rotors are used isn’t only for air flow but mostly to let the gases from the pads escape as they wear. As the pads wear especially under heavy use they give off gases which can create a layer between the pad and rotor, the slots/holes allow these gases to escape and thus aid braking.
I WAS WAITING FOR THE NEXT UPLOAD
A firestone ad on replacing breaks came up while watching😂
My e46 m3 came stock with drilled discs, they never ever squeaked for me, but the stock BMW pads hummed loudly under heavy braking when warm and they faded badly on track, front and rear. I permanently damaged the pads on a one mile track topping out at 90mph in less than ten minutes. I now run performance friction z rated and 08 pads front/rear and there is so much less noise due to less gas coming off the pad. They still dont squeak so my personal experience doesn't tally up with what this video says about drilled discs.
Drilled or slotted aren’t fit heat dissipation at all. They are to help vent off gasses from certain types of pads when your brakes get hot under heavy loads because when your brakes get hot on a normal rotor when you start using them hard a gas layer could form under heavy braking hence brake fade. Slotted helps removed this gasses. Drilled does the same thing but are prone to cracking.
7:49 Aurora Straus
Some heroes don't wear capes
I didn't even had to ask XD...
Good video man
I know someone who has a BMW i3 and his brakes are still pretty much fresh cus all he uses is the regenerative braking and he's gotten used to it. He said in his ownership of the car (70k plus miles he says) he's touched the brake maybe only 100 or so times when he first got the car
bladed you make the best vids love you no homo doe
That upcoming ram rebel trx has some serious brakes
Time to put 10 piston brakes front and rear on my S2000!
But really I just have RX8 rear calipers to use S197 GT rear vented rotors to upgrade from solid smol rotors
Didn't 10 piston brakes too much for S2000? I mean it is a light car, which 6 pistons is enough, even for tuned ones.
@@govinlock8568 ...that was the joke
Slots in the rotor are for brake dust disbursement, drilled is for cooling. Slots, extend the life and grip not cooling. Drilled only offers cooling benifit.
10 / 10 would watch again
Aye shoutout to Houston Texas!
Speaking game as always 🔥
i always enjoy ur videos, but... i haveta say, having 35 years under my belt of working on cars, ur comment about All the disc brakes being the Same, Replacing the Pads are "All The Same" is incorrect. ive wrenched on everything from european, to asian, to domestic, from the 50's to today, & there are many many different designs as far as replacing the pads on a disc brake set up... but oh man, how i Wish they were all as Easy as what u showed in the video (haha) ...again, always enjoy ur videos, so thanx & god bless dude
Ayy bladed, I got a jeep YJ that I take mudding, rock crawling, and trailing. I’m planing on putting in an LS 1 or LS 3,would u recommend Drum or Disc (I know how to change out and install drum and brakes so labor costs don’t matter.) and I’m in the south where summer temps can go up to 102 Fahrenheit.
The way to stop skeecking breaks is to dab some copper grease on the pads when you change your break pads.
Can't believe how much they try to charge to do the brakes at shops. I just needed my front pads and rotors replaced and the shop quoted me *$1,200!* Just bought the parts for like $120 and did it myself in like 1 1/2 hours.
Gotta love $$$$$/labor hrs
Slots don’t cool the disc directly but take care of the residue of used pads. It’s more for cleaning than cooling. Anyway less dust equals better heat transfer equals better cooling performance.
Your "power charts" were fun (as was the rest of the video), but I actually ended up needing the cross-drilled/slotted options for my daily driver. Believe it or not, but with the options I had, the less vented rotors continued to warp because of the mountain roads I daily and the 4,400 lbs of "luxury" gravity kept trying to pull into the hell that is my life. Thankfully, the set I have now has yet to crack (knocks on wood). But even if/when it does, I'll have gotten double the mileage of my last standard set. If you ever design a car and decide to upbadge it by adding 600lbs of options, consider doing more to the brakes than adding 1/4 diameter and dispersing the bias. >_>
remember that painting your calipers red gives you more horsepower, the nitrons in the red pigment surge though the metal in your car and energize your fuel and blinker fluid, this is also why red cars are more expensive to insure.
I thought painting your calipers red made you stop faster which would make insurance cheaper
i like how he puts the stonks meme in every video
11:35 *usually*. I have 8 piston Ksports on my 18in Works. Tho it important to note that i run a 13” rotor, not a 14+ in.
The prices of the disk brakes you showed in this video made me physically ill... I just learned the true cost of long term ownership. Thanks.
Ceramic as a material polishes itself smooth over time, so I wouldn't imagine it'd be great as a friction material for braking.
8:25 I got some brake motive combination rotors for my Odyssey😂😂 cost me $100 for all four rotors
i want to do rear brake converter for my 5spd AE101 but i dont know which brake the rear is fit because they dont make aftermarket rear brake for my car so i must know the actual fit that compatible from other car.
Drum brakes are common on pro drag cars. Tiny wheels don't have a lot of room for big brakes and the surface area is a huge necessity when you hit 140 down track.
Love your vids
Discs brakes are beautiful! If you color them the make the car more a car
Wow I learn a lot more here than in school
Now do a noobs guide to transfer cases.
Can I use solid rotors for rw and slotted/drilled for front ones or they would make the braking balance wierd
I couldn't find any information about drum brakes on the Diablo. Good video tho!
Just bought a set of eBay rotors and pads for $100 and they work great
I raced a dirt oval with a 2003 dodge neon. Our brake line to the back drum brakes broke. We clamped it off. (Basically making the brakes extra weight and nothing else) and there was hardly a difference in breaking (other than spinning a little when we dive a corner)
Our m3 has drilled rotors from factory, the big brake kit includes those
thanks for the info! I`m gonna try to find out how to put drilled rotors on my Lambo in the NFS before my mom calls me for dinner!
Note: What is to follow doesn't apply to sports cars, trucks or any other vehicle that cannot avoid needing a lot of braking and brake cooling. I prefer (self adjusting) drum brakes because I think they look far better (I don't like seeing rust on cars, which will be visible on any disc), doesn't let brake dust fly around as much, and I prefer how the handbrake works the actual rear brakes rather than some extra system. I also like what they mean for the car itself, as I'm in the belief that if your vehicle _needs_ disc brakes then it's too heavy, and if you're running into heat issues then you're driving too vigorously. Drive smoother---in a reasonably light car, say under 950 kg---and drums all 'round will be fine, and if the drum itself is correctly engineered it'll almost be easier to service than a disc as it isn't as prone to seizing through rust as calipers are, and can be made easy to remove. As for going downhill, all you need to do is put in a somewhat low gear and engine brake (again, not applicable to trucks which must be big and heavy, which could run a risk of high engine heat)