Part One: Vince McMahon, History's Greatest Monster | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part One: Vince McMahon, History's Greatest Monster | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
We begin our 6 part series on the Chairman & CEO of WWE, Vince McMahon.
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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Hey guys! Kyle Dunning of eWrestlingnews here. I got told that you mentioned me, and I super appreciate the shoutout. Would you guys mind if I linked folks to the piece you referenced? For anyone who wanted to read up on this subject? Thank you.
It seems that links are not allowed here, so if anyone is interested, you can google "Wrestling Origins: How Did Professional Wrestling Begin?" and "Wrestling Origins: The Gold Dust Trio’s Legacy". Thanks
@kyleandrew1987 I'll definitely check that out. Generally Robert compiles a list of his sources so he'd definitely love you linking your piece
@@kevinwillems8720 yeah, I tried that, but this comment section would not allow me to share, so it seems you will have to find it yourself. 😅
@@kyleandrew1987I will be checking both of those out
@kyleandrew1987 in the future, what might work is linking a youtube video with a link to your article in the description.
Welp, this one's about to get a LOT of visibility in light of this evening's news.
I shit you not
@@ThiccBoi23 I see what you did there
Dagnammit I’m 3 days late to point this out
No kidding.
Hate to break it to you but ya boy dropped the ball on this one. Great story that needs absolutely more attention but he suddenly just cuts off right before the modern era and what McMahon is going down for federally.
When you mentioned the diaper bank, my mind immediately spat out “behinds of bastards.” 💀
Beautiful
"Stank Bank" woulda been sweet, but it's taken 😳
6 Episodes for Vince and just the recent news alone might warrant a few more episodes once everything comes to light. Sheesh.
Lemme guess... you came in from Moist Critical? Cause I did.
Can’t believe Vince could actually do the stuff said he did orrr can we?
It's not six episodes for Vince though, the entire first episode has nothing to do with him, it's just about wrestling in general. This should have been a stand-alone episode on wrestling history IMO
@@elvalvinoskyo3307 You'd certainly need a very creative imagination if he didn't.
@@99blazer17 I came here from wrestletalk
And with today's bombshell, I am expecting in a couple more years, we get a brand new part of this....
Edit: Hell, thinking about it more and how many skeletons there are, there could probably be another 6 part series just on the NDA's Vince has likely made people signed over the years alone. It could literally be a whole spin-off podcast on just this one monster.
Seanbaby deserves to be a regular.
Points about Roddy Piper from back in the day... He was never the world champion in any promotion back then because of his volatile personality. McMahon and other promoters wouldn't give him the belt because they were never quite sure he'd go along with a storyline or match outcome where he loses it if he was mad, or drunk , or didn't like the guy he was supposed to lose it to, etc. You can even see this in his history--like, for a really long time he never once lost any title cleanly. He'd always lose it as a stipulation in a special rules match, or be stripped of it for not defending it in 30 days, or whatever. He finally did clean jobs near the end of his career to guys like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and Randy Savage because he trusted and respected them as professionals in the business. He was famous for refusing to job for Hulk Hogan because he said all the heels that lose to him end up as mid-carders at best.
Cocaine is a helluva drug . The damage he did to his career is nothing in comparison to what coke did to his heart . Piper knew he was not gonna live long enough to claim his retirement
Whether it was drugs or not, Fritz Von Erich caused David's death. David was feeling unwell before he ever flied to Japan, and Fritz told him "you never cancel a booking" and made him fly overseas anyway. Dark Side of the Ring did a pretty detailed account of the whole thing.
This. Didn't help that Fritz himself was deteriorating.
Flew
To be fair . They thought it was the flu . Not gastro interitis
True. I watched the Dark Side of the Ring episode, and boy, that whole saga was sad to the end, though the end with the surviving brother carrying on and rebuilding his life was heartwarming.
@@MrGksarathy Did you watch the A24 film about them? It equally as sad well, in my opinion at least
Can't wait for season two!
That Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls crack unfortunately breezed right past everyone.
I spit out my coffee.
I had to pause the video. 😂
Strap in folks this is gunna be a rough ride. Vince is a nasty, nasty man.
And this episode doesn't even GET TO HIM!
He looks like sleeze would slide straight off his slimy exterior and cactuses would shrivell up and die in his presence.
And he’s nastier then I imagined. Knew he was an ass but he’s swamp ass
Strap in and strap on lol
Sorry I couldn't help myself
I used to live in Waterloo, Iowa...there is a wrestling hall of fame there, but until today I never knew why. In fairness "Ed" from Detroit was the son of Lebanese immigrants and at least had legitimate middle eastern ethnic heritage.
Georg Hackenschmidt died at age 89, not 49.
I guess, that answers whose creatine to buy.
Scott Hall took the greatest stunner of all time.
This podcast has a unique ability to take the most horrific events imaginable and somehow still play them for laughs in a genuine way
As someone who was raised in Connecticut during the Linda senate campaigns this whole family is just ....woof.
Yeah I hadn't heard of Behind the Bastards until this here McMahon bio. Now I'm a huge fan. Wrasslin!
Real happy Andre secured the coveted Behind the Bastards "Not-A-Bastard" award
42:25 they were called hookers because of legit techniques used to "hook" an appointments limbs or head. When a modern MMA fighter takes someones back they will wrap their legs around the opponents midsection or thighs and try to cross their ankles together, that is called "getting the hooks in"
This is now very relevant. These are about to see a lot of increased traffic.
Bout to be a part 7
You could probably do an entire segment just on that damn mustache that Vince McMahon has now.
i just thought this guy was like, scrooge and dumb rich dude guy on wwe there's *6 episodes for this guy??* holy hell
Oh this is probably going to be even better for non wrestling fans. You're going to be all "holy shit a wrestling promoter covered up a murder?" XD
@@distane8376 I know you're talking about Snuka, but I also can't wait for them to get to the Raw tribute show to Krispen Wah
@@makeitthrough_ You do know that's not how that's spelled, right?
@@catsabotage3362 Just correct them instead of being weird abt it
Chris Benoit.
I second the Bobby Fingers plug YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!
When I was an exchange student in the states in the mid 80s I had arguments with adults who believed that all the WWF fights were completely on the level. It was weird.
Lol. That is a very believable story, and I'll bet the idiot adults got mad at you and were probably condescending.
Hackenschmidt may or may not have invented the bench press, but he's the guy that popularized it. He's also the guy that popularized the barbell hack squat, but I don't think "invent" is the right word for that. Barbells already existed, and the barbell hack squat is just a movement pattern.
Anybody else dip back to this episode after watching the Iron Claw?
Part 7 and 8 gonna go crazy
I just laughed so hard, the brush I was painting a Warhammer 40k model with slipped and fucked up the paint job.
That both seems fitting and like the most White American nerd sentence I've ever uttered.
Bless you, sirs (and madam).
This is really entertaining and I look forward to the whole thing, having been a big wrestling fan in a time not too long before Roberts. I think he might be underselling his interest in the topic at the start though. Like a kid with new bmx bike, no helmet and a ramp at the the end of a cul-de-sac, I bet he couldnt wait to take the plunge (6 episodes lol)
Could not be more excited for this!
Oh boy, here we go.
Fascinating, informative and entertaining. And we haven't even GOT to Vince McMahon yet...
As a lifter barbend is a pretty decent source. Idk about the bench press business and whether or not there was a similar loft at the time. But even if there was it is very possible that he invented the modern bench form (back arch, slight angle bar path, etc) which might differentiate it from previous similar lifts
apparently, and according to wikipedia, he actually dies at 89 though, so regardless of whether george hackensmidt invented the bench press, he was actually fairly long lived.
Silver lining to this one is that I respect pro wrestlers a whole lot more. Not that I looked down on them before, but *God,* that's dedication.
due to a penquinz0 video with something someone said in the comments i decided to come watch this
Well well well
And then it got worse
6 episodes at about an Hour/ Hour and a half each …. Here we go .
When is the Part 7 coming out? 😮
Child terror, Jimmy Savile, was a wrestler.
Good point
Amazing this was great, Hilarious. Also but still very very very very dark........cocaine fun dip.
That segment where they discussed the first carnie wrestler being put in a figure four leg lock had my sides hurting.
The one we've all been waiting for!
Great, informative episode about the history of wrestling!
The story I'd always heard on David von Erich was that he had intestinal problems. He was puking like crazy before flying to Japan, and with the flight and whatnot, that is what did him in. Could just be a cover up, but if it is, the story is consistent with a lot of folks. I'd never heard Bruiser's story before.
The thing is, it doesn't matter - he shouldn't have gone in the first place, and it probably wasn't his choice to begin with. If a boss knows their employee is really ill, if they force the employee to go somewhere they will be hurt further it's the _boss's_ responsibility, not the employee's.
He was a bulimic from his basketball days. Binging and purging is dangerous
The “gotcha” is a false head you wear while you duck your head like a turtle in between your massive shoulders. You coax your opponent into giving you a headlock only to pop off the fake head and reverse the lock. Gotcha!
woooo, gonna need an update
"I'm playin both sides. Whether he invented the bench press or not, I'm sellin' that creatine! I can't lose!"
Let’s do an update! The bastard’s still doing bastardly things!
Fantastic episode.
Seeing as how you mentioned him, when's the three-parter on Lowtax, the Bastard indirectly behind most internet culture of the 00s and 10s?
Would be nice to see some of these pics of these people as well 🤔
I introduced this film to my group of dorm buddies in our freshmen year of college in 1999 and it swept our school's campus like wild fire. You'd go to parties, and all night long, people who'd never even seen an episode of KITH would be celebrating keg stands with cheers of "Gleemonex for Pets!" or "Fuck Happy!" This movie only failed due to studio mismanagement.
Oh man, I remember watching the Behind The Bastards six parter on Vince McMahon back in my college years, good times!
@@makeitthrough_ You're so funny. What's it like to be you?
The whole wrestling world is full of bastards. It was pretty much the norm until very very recently.. How they escaped the "me too" stuff is beyond me. There is a clip here on TH-cam about how Steiner forced a rat to sleep with his "best friend", and the guy who tells the story laughs while telling it, like it was just a fun night..
The Steiner bros are actual monsters.
@@steve94183 that story is the most evil thing I've heard from the wrestling world . He would only let her sleep with him if she took care of his best friend first, so she did, while a bunch of wrestlers watched. Then he said "you really think I want to be with a filthy wh*re who has s*x with a dog?". And she ran crying out of the room. All as a joke. That's some psychopath level stuff. And the guys watching just though it was funny?? Jimmy hart was one of them I think?
Source? Just tried looking that up and got nothing
Yeah, and you have guys like Undertaker who actually look back on those days FONDLY. And says "wrestlers aren't men anymore because they don't bring a knife with them to work, they just play videogames with each other."
You're right. The dudes in wrestling were truly deranged and straight up monsters until very recently.
why@@steve94183
This shit with sons was so vile 😮
A24 is filming a movie about it right now with Zac Effron as Kerry Von Erich.
@@ryancarroll2886 I heard MJF is in it, too.
@@haolekoa737He's playing Lance Von Erich.
I was backstage in 83 or 84 I had a press pass and abused the F out of it and was talking with Barry Windham and I think Tony Atlas where Hulk came back after beating Roddy and they were clapping each other on the back and I was Bug Eyed looked at Barry and he then explained Kayfabe Still great athletes and still loved watching WWF and WCCW
According to wikipedia these early wrestlers lived til their 80s including Hackenschmidt who was only 5'9.
Seanbaby! Haven't seen him since ye olden Broken Pixels days.
There’s wrestling, wressling, rasslin, and wrestLe-ing
Toots Mondt looks like character model study for Mr. Incredible.
yeah my wrestling exposure as an 80s-90s kid was playing Doink the Clown on SNES and constantly slapping people with his bucket. Such tragedies had to occur for me to have a little harmless fun in that game.
Skip to next episode if you want to hear about vince
OMFG I just learned how funny it is that Trae Crowder's _Weekly Skews_ co-host, Mark Agee, is often referred to by the nickname "SmartMark" Agee!
Man, i think you may have made this series about 8 months too early.
I can't believe there's enough content for 8 more Vince Episodes, Jesus Christ, we didn't even get into the human trafficking Vince himself did.
As a political and wrestling nerd, I love when political people discover pro-wrestling for the crazy but beautiful world it is. Love this episode
24:03
Hackenschmidt lived to 89, I believe.
Didn't Hackenscmidth die at like 89 instead of 49?
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I wrestled in high school. I turned down multiple scholarships to wrestle in college. I even coached until I was 25. It's wild How little of the history of the sport I know
To be clear it was d2 or D3. I don't know why I got those scholarship offers. Is something cool I can say though
the dropkick saga was great
Great Coverage on the VonErichs but you completely forgetting Kevin was jarring.
They're like "that one's boring, he's still alive"
I find it hard to believe there was any form of entertainment in American history that existed without racist caricatures.
Alright, where are you from?
@@twinzzlers Georgia, why do you ask?
@@justinwatson1510 Sounds like something a Brit would say
We’re gonna need a bigger hard drive, folks
Speaking of monsters, can't get behind your choice of guest "Seanbaby," given he ran a "Fat Chicks in Party Hats" website for years which was entirely devoted to taking personal photos from fat women's websites and writing disgusting things about their appearance. If they asked him to take the photos down, he would make more pages mocking them for trying to escape his targeted abuse. He did so under a fake name, but it was attached to his own website, he wrote articles hyping the site, and there are articles on his own website which are the same thing written in the same style minus the fake Mexican accent. The guy is a bully. I guess he's fun to hang out with if he's not targeting you, personally.
Why am I not surprised... Thanks for this info
The part about wrestling history & nicknames was interesting, but I heard Plato was a wrestler, & in fact "Plato" meaning "broad" was his wrestling name.
That feeling when you realize Plato probably could have kicked the Rock's ass... O.o
Like, _Plato_ Plato? Like Atlantis Plato?
America's Savile. Hope his victims get to see justice served whilst he's still alive
Victim, singular
@@jeffrey8568 lol if you say so
@@jeffrey8568He's screwed over numerous people, and he has absolutely sexually abused more woman before
"Hey, for 120 bucks, I'll let you ride my son's corpse."
"Hey, if you want another kid of him, go for it, same price."
You should’ve waited until 2024 to do this episode.
Somewhere out there , in here , over yonder .. The maniac loves us .
SMARK, it's SMARK
-a smark
I HAVE AN INSATIABLE APPETITE FOR LIFE AND I WANT MORE MORE MORE!!!
15:59 Hold up.
Is this _Seanbaby_ ?
I don't care what Robert says, Hackenschmidt was on the gear until proven otherwise. The gear in 1750 or whatever was probably orange juice but the point remains.
I think you might've made this one about 6 months too early but about to listen now
We all knew he was a bastard but i don't think even his biggest critics understood the scale
VKM as a historical monster. Inane.
Hate to break it to you but ya boy dropped the ball on this one. Great story that needs absolutely more attention but he suddenly just cuts off right before the modern era and what McMahon is going down for federally.
Could have been as famous as Coffeezilla if only he had dug a bit deeper.
I think this may need an update.
North America had several species of elephant, the Colombian Mammoth and the Mastodon, and Central and South America had an additional species of Gomphothere which is an elephant relative that had four tusks, two on its lower jaw.
Great wrestling history barely mentions Vince tho
will there be a behind the bastards for ed mcmahon?
Underrated
Well, I've learned about how Vince is a piece of shit but now I need to know the real question.
How do you approach Ebert when he's crouching with flash kick?
What the hell is lumber camp fighting? And is that what Lincon did?
80% of competitive Age of Empires meta, or alternatively bored lumberjacks swinging at each other while presumably deep in their cups. Lincoln was never a lumberjack, to my knowledge, but I suppose he could've showed up to the fights.
you wanna talk smarts and marks.... I recently learned it is the pole that rotates and not the stripper that is sliding around it.... mean, nearly broke my heart that did.
Just a quick thing - "kayfabe" is carny for "fake." The parts are there, like pig latin. It's just carny for "fake," it's honestly that simple.
Remove three letters and scramble the remainder and it spells "fake".
@@BzaafiedTheFerociousYou can do that for basically any word
Hackenschmidt died in 1968 at 90 years old. You have your information wrong
Who else is here because of Rhonda Rousey?
Chris was the most tragic of the V.Erich boys. He really wanted to be wrestler, but he had neither the physique nor the talent.
Hackenschmidt died at 89
Wresteling