Part Two: Jack Welch Is Why You Got Laid Off | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part Two: Jack Welch Is Why You Got Laid Off | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined again by Michael Swaim and Abe Epperson to continue to discuss Jack Welch.
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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26:19 It's worse than you're saying. Decimation wasn't meant to strengthen a unit, it was a particularly extreme punishment that IIRC would make the unit essentially useless from then on (not just because it would be under numbers, but because its internal bonds would be broken). It was mostly a theoretical deterrent to cowardice, and only really used when a unit screwed up so badly that it was more useful as an example than as a fighting force.
Jack Welch made it standard business practice to do something *the freaking Roman Army was hesitant to use as a punishment!*
And now everybody does it 🤬
Possibly the sad thing is that while we blame Jack Welch - rightfully - for bringing this back in-vogue it's also *literally the same sort of mentality that existed during the United Kingdom's and America's Industrial Revolutions* more or less, just Jack had to put up with Child Labor Laws and minimal labor rights existing as a result of *those*
My best friend's dad worked for GE in Schenectady for almost 30 years. It was the only job he had after getting out of the Navy. He worked long enough to retain the majority of his pension. When he realized that the pension system was being winded down, he invested in a mountain of bonds, just in case. He never opted into the 401k system they started offering. By the time he "retired" they reduced his hours to less than 20 per week.
This episode hit me really hard.
In 2008, I had just graduated college in the spring and stepped fully into the professional world just in time for the big housing crash that took place later that fall (not the best timing!). I pretty much lost my first job before the ink had dried on the paperwork. I took a look around, and it seemed like everyone was laying off instead of hiring, so I went back to my hometown for a bit and my second job ended up being in one of the few things that was really booming at the time : in-house debt collection for credit cards offered by GE Consumer Finance. I basically stepped right into front row seats for everything that was the culmination of what had been wrong with corporate America for the past decade or two.
Fucking hell that sounds nightmarish.
I've been laid off or outright fired like clockwork every one to two years ever since I started working. I've lost track of how many jobs I've had at this point and the only two jobs I've ever managed to hang onto for more than 2 years I was severely under paid. I'm currently listening to this in the background while I'm at work and I had to stop when they mentioned the study that said it was more stressful than the death of a close friend and can take up to two years to fully recover from it.
An added side effect of all this: even though I've had health insurance fairly consistently for most of my adult life I haven't had a consistent primary care physician in over 10 years because I can't reliably tell if I'm going to be changing insurance providers whenever I need a new job.
Popsicle opening was too good. Slow down, Robert.
I lived in Oklahoma in the 1980s (elementary and middle school years) and attended a soccer camp where Dr. Pepper was the sponsor and the main source of rehydration. Any possible attachment to that beverage that I might have had died and was cremated in a volcano.
Adam Curtis did an episode of "The Mayfair Set" which basically talked about the guy who invented "sell off the assets and then bail with the profits" takeover strategy in the UK in the 60s. More of an equity move, but very similar in reaults.
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Never have i hated someone i never knew existed. Good history!
I have that thought for like half these episodes.
Somehow I find the episodes about the bastards I didn't know existed are way better than the ones I did know existed. Joseph Mengle, sure we've all heard of the doctor of Auchwitz but G Gordon Liddy... now there's a crazy bastard.
@@PostingCringeOnMain I will burn my hand to prove to you that he is not a crazy bastard
Oh please. Consider doing Pablo Picasso. He was a top shelf asshole who ruined a few lives. Left-brain's love him. My brain is left and I think he is in the running of Top 50. Thank you.
I hope Jonathan richman reads this comment and feels bad.
@@zigzag8392PP was finally called an asshole! Saw JR in 1982 and again in 2015 and he sounded great both times.
Also why is Robert talking what we do for money in my small mountain California town? We need that money. Plus then with the dead guy; one less guy to share the meth with.
More meth to go around plus a free pair of boots. Who's losing in this situation?
Arkansans live Dr. Pepper and Pibb! Lol. Love these episodes
So I've found the one sliver of overlapping venn diagram I apparently share with Texans. Dr. Pepper. It's just the best brown soda, and I'm not sorry.
Well done guys great podcast
Commenting for two reasons:
Jack Welch didn't deserve to die in comfort
Michael Swaim?? I miss After Hours! Hope he's doing well.
Great show. Keep it up. Thanks for what you do.
Don't have to be from Texas to love Dr Pepper!!
Hell, I'm Jordanian and I love Dr. Pepper so much, though I haven't had it since years
Mr. Pibb and Red5 = crazy delicious (if you know, you know)
Mr. Pibb and Red *Vines* 😎
In relation to Moltke and German military strategy, it wasn't just the guns... Again with the over simplified views of reality... German armies would be tactically and operationally superior to French armies because they had better logistics specially in the use of trains, navigable rivers and canals, better operational delegation within lower ranks than the French.
If you know anything about the French from that time is that they were in a state of constant political meddling, most of the ranks were filled with flunkies that then had to be fired at high rate in first world war. In the second one their top heavy decision making was just too inflexible, and they didn't understand how to use modern weapons effectively. But one thing about the French is that they are better at thinking strategically than the Germans, that is when they aren't thinking about grandiose designs that often get them in trouble.
To be far, as a gray muzzle myself. This movie sound homophobic. Please prove me wrong.
I know these guys are your boys from Cracked, but they are really, really inarticulate and unfunny. Maybe Robert should limit them to two bong hits before a broadcast from now on?
My greatest regret is that Jack never experienced the benefits of being tortured. Generosity like Jack's should always be rewarded... Ruthlessly. 🔌🚿💉🩻🔨🪝📍📌🚬