what you are explaining is exactly as they designed it. RP is NOT elo you have a seperate elo that is hidden you have to win every game period to increase your hidden elo so your RP gains go back up. I actually did the homework and looked up your profile and your rank 100% makes sense you hit emerald 2 last season and this season you have a 42% win rate after 154 matches played. even in ranked 1.0 this is how it was but only difference now is we all have a hidden ranked 1.0 that never resets and the RP rank which is 2.0 does and essentially your RP rank is trying to match your hidden rank. that being said at the start of the season the game thought you were still emerald 2 but you have lost too many games so it threw your hidden elo down to plat. if you up to this point won 50% of your matches you would be emerald 2 but you actually lost hidden mmr because you have only won 42% of your games which is why your RP gains are completely gone. I agree this is dumb I want Ranked 1.0 back because having your real elo reset was way more fun and also having it visible was way more fun. However this new ranked system is far more competitive and demands consistency you need to focus on bringing that Win rate above 50% if you really hope to rank up higher because unlike the old system this one never forgets your real rank and win rate is more important than ever.
I understand the rank system completely so I hope that explains what is happening and increases your understanding. and also if you are playing with gold and silvers you have too carry every game to a win because you will make less rp as you are playing against players who should on average be lower than you which explains the losing 27 rp and making like 14 ... I personally am playing with champ, diamond, emerald, or some comp T3 or T2 players as well and I am near a 60% win rate and I'm still making gains with more games played than you so I recommend you start doing LFG and getting in with players that are either better than you or on the same level to get that win rate up and per game you will make more RP playing on a team with on average higher hidden ELO. in other words you play with gold and silver you will be sucked towards those ranks if you play with champs and diamonds you will be sucked towards those ranks.
Wow! This makes sense now, you basically just broke down the entire rank system for this game. Thank you for this information, very informative I appreciate the time and effort you put into this lol.
@@eagletears945 yep no problem this popped up in my recommended the other day and I fully understood your frustration I hope you keep grinding get in with some other higher elo players and rank up. The lack of clarity on the ranking system is completely Ubisoft"s fault the only time they explained it was during a 1 hour twitch stream. University students actually have done dissertations and presentations on how bad this 2.0 system is and shown how they would have done it. Everyone wants 1.0 back it was simple it made sense and it reset. I know I sound like a nerd in this but I'm a construction worker that just really likes Siege.
@@eagletears945I have a bone to pick with this commenter. I've actually played against you before Eagle, when I won I got 24 rp. I then matched with you later on and lost a whopping 27 rp when you and your team beat me. This tells me that plat 1 is lower than my hidden elo but the game calculates losses very harshly it seems. My shown rank is play 1 but I'm constantly matched with high emerlad/diamond/champ. I don't think your instincts are incorrect, there is something wrong with the system and I believe it's how it calculates losses factoring into your mmr.
I had this problem so bad last season during twin shells and it seemed like i was the only person suffering from this elo plague. Now this season it's happening to more ppl. Which sucks but now I don't sound insane and it's something that's sadly broken about the system especially when you go on a losing streak (I solo queue a lot) and it seems almost impossible to recover from.
Last comment your randoms will be absolutely horrible until you hit diamond. When you hit diamond your whole team will be champion with the exception of a few
you losing more elo than youre gaining is because your hidden mmr is much lower then your visible rank, thats why people saying that your rank doesnt matter anymore because nobody can see your hidden mmr, so in reality your hidden mmr migt be plat 5 already with your 0.8 win/loss but your visible rank is plat 3 because your visible rank didnt catch up with your hidden mmr the moment when your hidden mmr evens out with your visible rank is when you start to gain/lose +- 30 elo per match and yes matchmaking sucks af
@eagletears945 don't stress about it bro. This system doesn't mean shit anyway. I was struggling to get out of gold for 2 seasons while having 1.1 wl and 1.2 kdr, I was just getting less points than losing so it was an endless cycle. Last season I had two crazy winning streaks, one was 13 in a row and that got me to Plat 3, I stayed around plat 3/4 for two weeks, and then I had 12 wins in a row which got me to Emerald 3. Does that mean i play like Emerald 3? Absolutely not, but the game thought I became much better overnight and now I'm stuck playing against diamonds and champions, when I was much more comfortable and played way better when I was gold/plat.
what you are explaining is exactly as they designed it. RP is NOT elo you have a seperate elo that is hidden you have to win every game period to increase your hidden elo so your RP gains go back up. I actually did the homework and looked up your profile and your rank 100% makes sense you hit emerald 2 last season and this season you have a 42% win rate after 154 matches played. even in ranked 1.0 this is how it was but only difference now is we all have a hidden ranked 1.0 that never resets and the RP rank which is 2.0 does and essentially your RP rank is trying to match your hidden rank. that being said at the start of the season the game thought you were still emerald 2 but you have lost too many games so it threw your hidden elo down to plat. if you up to this point won 50% of your matches you would be emerald 2 but you actually lost hidden mmr because you have only won 42% of your games which is why your RP gains are completely gone. I agree this is dumb I want Ranked 1.0 back because having your real elo reset was way more fun and also having it visible was way more fun. However this new ranked system is far more competitive and demands consistency you need to focus on bringing that Win rate above 50% if you really hope to rank up higher because unlike the old system this one never forgets your real rank and win rate is more important than ever.
I understand the rank system completely so I hope that explains what is happening and increases your understanding. and also if you are playing with gold and silvers you have too carry every game to a win because you will make less rp as you are playing against players who should on average be lower than you which explains the losing 27 rp and making like 14 ... I personally am playing with champ, diamond, emerald, or some comp T3 or T2 players as well and I am near a 60% win rate and I'm still making gains with more games played than you so I recommend you start doing LFG and getting in with players that are either better than you or on the same level to get that win rate up and per game you will make more RP playing on a team with on average higher hidden ELO. in other words you play with gold and silver you will be sucked towards those ranks if you play with champs and diamonds you will be sucked towards those ranks.
Wow! This makes sense now, you basically just broke down the entire rank system for this game. Thank you for this information, very informative I appreciate the time and effort you put into this lol.
@@eagletears945 yep no problem this popped up in my recommended the other day and I fully understood your frustration I hope you keep grinding get in with some other higher elo players and rank up. The lack of clarity on the ranking system is completely Ubisoft"s fault the only time they explained it was during a 1 hour twitch stream. University students actually have done dissertations and presentations on how bad this 2.0 system is and shown how they would have done it. Everyone wants 1.0 back it was simple it made sense and it reset. I know I sound like a nerd in this but I'm a construction worker that just really likes Siege.
@@eagletears945I have a bone to pick with this commenter. I've actually played against you before Eagle, when I won I got 24 rp. I then matched with you later on and lost a whopping 27 rp when you and your team beat me.
This tells me that plat 1 is lower than my hidden elo but the game calculates losses very harshly it seems. My shown rank is play 1 but I'm constantly matched with high emerlad/diamond/champ. I don't think your instincts are incorrect, there is something wrong with the system and I believe it's how it calculates losses factoring into your mmr.
I had this problem so bad last season during twin shells and it seemed like i was the only person suffering from this elo plague. Now this season it's happening to more ppl. Which sucks but now I don't sound insane and it's something that's sadly broken about the system especially when you go on a losing streak (I solo queue a lot) and it seems almost impossible to recover from.
Great video. New system is needed
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Last comment your randoms will be absolutely horrible until you hit diamond. When you hit diamond your whole team will be champion with the exception of a few
It’s your fault if your kd is higher than your win loss. You’re not picking the right teamates
W video fam
@@CMDYATTA Appreciate it bro🙏🏾
Also you’re gaining less than you earn because your w/l is so bad. If you go on a winning streak your elo will go back up to 25 after winning a lot
you losing more elo than youre gaining is because your hidden mmr is much lower then your visible rank, thats why people saying that your rank doesnt matter anymore because nobody can see your hidden mmr,
so in reality your hidden mmr migt be plat 5 already with your 0.8 win/loss but your visible rank is plat 3 because your visible rank didnt catch up with your hidden mmr
the moment when your hidden mmr evens out with your visible rank is when you start to gain/lose +- 30 elo per match
and yes matchmaking sucks af
yeah thats why i always play quick match standard is in a similar boat its just shit tbh and its only for the battle pass
i have the same and 200 rollback
Bro hmu dawg
@@atticustexas9239 on what?
The game is trying to tell you, you're too high than you should have been.
yeaa
@eagletears945 don't stress about it bro. This system doesn't mean shit anyway. I was struggling to get out of gold for 2 seasons while having 1.1 wl and 1.2 kdr, I was just getting less points than losing so it was an endless cycle. Last season I had two crazy winning streaks, one was 13 in a row and that got me to Plat 3, I stayed around plat 3/4 for two weeks, and then I had 12 wins in a row which got me to Emerald 3. Does that mean i play like Emerald 3? Absolutely not, but the game thought I became much better overnight and now I'm stuck playing against diamonds and champions, when I was much more comfortable and played way better when I was gold/plat.
@@haserpl2367dannng that’s crazy
apperently earnin 13-16 elo and losing 25 is a glitch and it sometimes work sometimes not
It’s not a glitch. It’s if you go on a large losing streak
If you had your way, everyone would end up at a high rank.
That's the thing, people were complaining last season that there were so many champs. And there was even more champs than diamonds apparently.