A Completely Unbiased Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Mark Zuckerberg reviewed the Apple Vision Pro.
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The fact that people are comparing a $400 headset vs a $3500 is a a massive W for meta
700$* but yeah
@@everythingpony I got my quest 3 for 345 pounds. Thr 128gb version
I mean it's basically the only competitor
@@benjaminzipser6021 I know, but we're finding the quest to be better at most things even though it's 3000 less
@@benjaminzipser6021and yet the only thing the apple headset does better is watching movies and stuff and it's not anywhere close to better by enough to justify the price tag
The screen is just as good as the content that can be displayed on it. Simple
16:10 Get the crowbars
i think you can place the photo then walk closer to it
I hate most UX decisions Apple made in recent times but right now you can zoom in very far in the photos app on IOS.
Quest 3 and vision pro are same for productivity. Apple has better displays. But quest supports wired mode for 5 virtual monitors. It's impossible to drive highres through wifi.
Apple has better hand control, but controllers are MUCH more precise, to extend that they can serve as mouse for 5 monitors. Your eyes cannot.
Requesting a censor over Linus' face until he grows back a beard.
He went from business owner to intern
Nah beards are gay
baby face is also gay@@P3GProductions
this could be fun to make for 1st april episode
@@P3GProductionsso, you are saying that gay is a bad thing?
LMG needs to deploy a large beard model (LBM) AI for Linus.
LMG needs LBM you’re right lol!
I read "Large Beard Motel" at first...
true
Large bard model (LBM) AI for Linus: he will sing lullabies for you and your children.
Nah he needs to be vtuber lel.
6:32 The Apple Vision Pro is a nightmare for Italians especially.
😂😂 good one
2:13 look at his hair, glitch in the matrix? 😂
Maybe it is AI generated Linus
Yes
Linus was sick today so they used an AI generated Linus. Quite the advancement. I remember when they used to use a cardboard cutout with a video call window in front of it.
@@thanos879 joke on you, Linus doesn't exist, he's always been AI
it is an encoding error
I'm willing to bet every single person Luke said uses the headset daily for productivity will completely abandon it within 2 months.
Yea I'm a little confused there. Who the fuck is putting that on to work everyday? You can't even see the keyboard while having it on lol
@@willo1345someone that spent 3500$ and must make it worth it
We already seeing that and it has only been 2 weeks with a good chunk of buyers returning them.
@@willo1345 I don't look at my keyboard basically at all working without a headset, I hope that's not a big deal for most people?
Only the biggest apple fanboys think this is revolutionary. It's an HMD with passthrough enabled. You could do this in 2014.
His argument "It's made for a specific type of person" Then Zuck is right about is being the better product in general.
I have never heard Luke have a good original comment.
Once he realised that he is talking about specific people he knows he corrected himself and "generally agreed" with Zuck standpoint: 6:59.
Some people are quick to be haters without proper reason lol.
Pay so much more to do one thing better and the rest significant worse.
Zuck said "it's a better product period" that's not true since as you noticed Linus mentioned, for some people's case Vision Pro is much better
If it's a better product for the vast majority of people, then it's a better product. The minority doesn't change the rule
30hz hand tracking is just atrocious, 30hz without the option of controllers is a terrible mistake. As is its a fancy monitor solution which hurts your neck and your bank.
It's a stepping stone, I think Apple will have to face the reality that the vast majority will wait for later iterations.
AVP hand tracking is still the best we got in market
@@kadupse In terms of accuracy, it’s significantly better than the quest for a day to day use with a very wide field of accurate detection. Infinitely better in low light because of its infrared illumination. But yes, especially through Unity’s framework for some reason It is far too slow for any kind of high movement gaming and a massive for development.
@kadupse yes it is. I have a quest 3 and the hand tracking is still more of a gimmick then anything else
@@quantuminfinity4260 I hate when I see ppl like you who compare it to the quest 3 while not even talking about the price
Of course it's gonna be better if it's 5 times the price but it's not 5 times better
So here is the question: Who is the Apple Vision Pro for? Cause as a person who works in XR and AR offices, its very silly for me.
As a dev, is the first headset I can actually do work in because of the crisp text. And Immersed is coming to it, so it’ll really close the gap.
@@KatemisMoon It will have Immersed? Well, that will definitely improve the use cases for me.
@@joeyghostxyou will not be able to make your money back in any way shape or form BECAUSE of the AVP. Just stick to what you use now.
Do have to ask, do you use Hololens or something else?
Is made for people who don’t know about Hardware and just need apple to decide for them. And for people who status is important
The quest 3 thanks to apps like immersed and virtual desktop is auch better productivity device if youre using multiple monitors.
They just announce is coming for Vision Pro! I have a Quest too but legibility is not near as useable as AVP.
@@KatemisMoonwhat are you, blind? The Q3s legibility is incredible.
I got to try a Q3 for the first time *after* the AVP, and I was surprised that the Q3 quality was pretty good, but "incredible" feels like a stretch. But the AVP might've set too high of a bar for me.
@@KatemisMoon it's good enough but definitely not as high as I want.
I look forward to the next generation.
@@slamkam07 The Quest 3 is absolutely incredible, but it doesn't cross the threshold as something I would use for that kind of productivity daily. Vision Pro isn't even quite there yet for me. People have different preferences for what they want in a device and what they will trade off, price, hardware, software, ect. There isn't a wrong answer for everyone, that is only a call you can make personally. All they did was express their feelings from their experience and that can't be invalid because it is entirely subjective and certainly doesn't make them blind.
The punch line is that the Vision Pro isn’t even competing with the Quest3. Meta will most certainly sell *more* units bc of the Vision Pro, bc it’s popularizing VR. Just like after the Apple Watch launched, analogue watch sales actually went *up*. So whatever side you’re on, if you like VR in general you should be thrilled about the Vision Pro existing. And Zuck knows this, he’s no dummy.
I honestly think Mark's review was actually pretty solid - especially considering he's the CEO haha. I'm a Vive owner and a Mac user (so VR user but in the Apple camp who also uses Windows) - I think the overall better system will be the Quest 3. It's more accessible and more usable for more people, so therefore (imho) the better overall product. Regardless, some of the hugely big productivity opportunities of Mac connected to Vision Pro are great, but a really niche use case. As a Mac user, I personally wouldn't use one this way even though I'm the target market.
IMO apple did not go out to do VR, more like they go for the AR with a VR possiblity...
Where most VR devices are VR first...
I mean, all things considered, AVP is a newly released product. It’s not even fair to compare these two 😂.
It’s just funny how people compare apps and game of a brand new product line to years old product line…
@@Lucifer-fj7mg Right, but it's the product we have to use it, so it's fair to compare
Have you ever envisioned that one day Tim Cook as an Apple CEO will diss Meta Quest? 😅no? Neither do I? Some people are too classy for that.
To me it just didn’t sound confident. Obviously they’re confident in their product, but if they felt like they had to make this video to change the narrative about the quest 3 instead of running an ad campaign or something more subtle, then I can clearly see they’re probably running around reworking so much about the Quest because there’s just stuff Apple got right that they didn’t think of. Which is why competition is good and causes innovation!
But the “market leader” doesn’t come out and talk about how good their product is compared to a new product that’s just not in the same price range. If it was so cut and dry, he wouldn’t have needed to make the video in the first place. I don’t see Tim Cook coming out and talking about the Galaxy Z Fold or Lisa Su talking about the 4080 Super, it just screams desperation.
Who was the Vision Pro made for? I’ve not seen or heard a compelling use-case for this device yet.
VR headsets in general are a solution in search of a problem (gaming aside)
Yup, like 3D TVs.
I use a quest 3 to do dev work on my laptop when travelling. It's quite nice to have multiple good sized monitors everywhere you are. Also watching movies and such when not at home with my spouse (travelling in business)
I can imagine developers or creatives in the apple universe using the vision pro for similar things.
It's a over expensive piece of junk for apple sheep
@@yourvenparianen5390 expensive doesn't make it a price of junk. It's overpriced for what it is and for anyone else than people in the IOS world.
It's a few very specific usecases where it's pretty amazing.
The people who got first gen Apple Vision Pro are because they are a fan of Apple, Tim Cook, and/or the Steve Jobs legacy. People who buy and own a Meta Quest anything, could care less about Mark or the company, that's how solid of a product the Quest series is, whether it was Mark or someone people actually like, the Quest continues to win. People who straight up hate the CEO of Meta, will use a Meta Quest. That's how much better it is as a product and value.
It's a "better product" because it has existing use cases. The Apple Vision Pro has no use cases, it's just a "gadget" that could be useful someday... maybe.
Just very narrow use case. I use mine 8 hours a day since launch.
Won't be can't be. Hololens already secured that market which is narrow and has the correctly designed hardware.
For the use cases there are for AVP the quest 3 can do them pretty solidly. Viewing models in AR, 3D recordings, virtual desktops, virtual calls/meetups, and content viewing. Not saying AVP won't succeed, but right now Q3 is definitely the better all around product. It just doesn't get the same hype and attention since it's not produced by the fruit company.
@@KatemisMoon what do you use it for?
If it’s not for you, that’s perfectly understandable. But to claim there is “no use case” is just crazy.
iCloud, Files, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, FaceTime, SharePlay, Zoom, Teams, WebEx, Safari, keychain, Notes, Freeform, Photos, AppleTV, Apple Music.
And, holdouts notwithstanding if there isn’t a visionOS optimized app you can fall back onto iOS which literally has 1 million apps. Among other things my AVP runs AirBNB, ESPN, Kaiser Permanente, Molekule, Fandango, News, Plex, Prime Video, Overcast, Signal, Shortcuts, Tesla, Speedtest, Voice Memos, X, you get the idea - the same apps and use cases people have been using iOS for for 15 years. (But now you can run them all full screen 1-10 feet tall each, in Yosemite Valley.)
Set up an infinitely flexible mixed reality workspace with floating 2D apps, in your real space or in a nature environment conducive to focus. Watch movies (2D, 3D, Immersive 180) and feel like you have your own drive through theater or IMAX. View photos and spatial videos at art gallery size. Listen to spatial music without headphones. Do a gaming VR workout. Meditate in the virtual forest. Cook dinner with the recipe, timers, and instructional video floating in your kitchen.
I’m not arguing that all of these are exclusive to AVP, just that AVP does have *many* use cases. Personally I’m loving mine. I understand it’s not for everyone, especially this 1st gen. But say it has no use cases is a failure of imagination.
The reason why you can't zoom in more on photos on the iPhone is because the iPhone takes HEIF pictures not JPEG and they have a bug/limitation on the gallery app that's linked to the file type. Meaning you can't zoom too much on HEIF pictures specifically because of an in app limitation. There are ways to solve this but Apple didn't bother fixing it.
I had those same issues with HEIF pictures on Android while I was using third party photo gallery apps but those issues were fixed very fast after I've emailed the app developers.
I’ve been able to zoom in way father on my iPhone then on my Samsung you’re all smoking crack. Makes no difference the format just goes to show you don’t use an iPhone. Linus is just wrong and this was a thing many many years ago. Makes me mad someone whose supposed to be tech savvy can’t even tell the truth
It's still an issue Apple chooses not to fix
@@e4iojk Totally agreed. I was just offering some context.
dont buy apple, use your brain
@@e4iojk you’re all dolts. I own both Samsung S23U and I can zoom in way farther on my iPhone then my Samsung no matter the format. That’s a fact. You guys and Linus obviously do not use iPhones or you would know this
can someone explain to me what "work" people are doing on buses and coffee shops with this thing? Is it all just teleconferencing?
Whatever they were already doing on their macbooks. It's nice to have a larger eye level display, but that's really it. Not worth the money
Not having time for "private time" as the owner of any size business simply means that you don't prioritize private time for yourself. Which checks out considering the amount of times Linus has had burnout. Prioritizing private time for yourself has major health benefits and will ultimately help your business more than suffering through burnout every 3-6 months. It should be easy to set time aside for yourself when you have over a hundred employees, a CEO separate from yourself, and upper-management that SHOULD be able to handle themselves for 3-5 hours a week. I think the hard part is "shutting it off" when you do have that time to yourself. It's something I'm struggling to do myself so I get it.
he said hes never alone because he has a family. bit nicer than overworking.
@@wolfgangBuonarotti His "problem" is that he has both. A big family and a big owner-run company.
This is just not even accurate. Idk why people thumbs-up stuff like this, Linus does not have a burnout every 3-6 months.
@@edkrassenstein5534 unless I've missed it I think he's had one or two public admissions of burnout in what, 12/13 years?
My only issue with this comment is the added on responsibilities of being a father or husband. You may but I see where Linus is coming from
Dismissing a negative review because the reviewer is not the target audience is dangerous because it can be applied to anything. Any time anyone says they don't like a product, it's not longer about holding the company responsible for making a bad product, its now that the product wasn't made for them.
That's a fair critique but I think what makes the Vision Pro good is the integration with the Apple ecosystem.
Although not sure if consider that really a strong point, because on isolation isn't a great product.
The beard is about to become part of the brand image with all the hate 😂
the "niche of people" point Luke makes is something i feel a lot of people would strongly disagree with, like myself. As far as i understand it, theres absolutely nothing that the Vision Pro can do that the Quest 3 cant (except maybe better hand and location tracking, better screen, and one or two apps that practically no one would actually make use of), and that niche of people are mostly just going to be Apple diehards thinking they're investing in the future- which sure, they might be, but they're kind of late to the party considering other companies before Apple have been paving the path for years.
I think Mark's review, although possible biased considering theres some competition to be had between his product and Apples, is extremely solid with some absolutely fantastic points, the biggest and most notable being the optional controllers, MUCH cheaper price, and much lighter weight, which is made even greater by the fact that the Quest 3 doesnt need a huge external battery while also lasting a slight amount longer on a full charge doing activities similar to the Vision Pro, and a similar 2 hours on actual gameplay load (which the vision pro isn't even capable of).
Not to mention that the Quest 3 can do normal standalone VR too, and PCVR with a Link cable or wirelessly through wifi.
Owning a decent PC in general invalidates the Vision Pro completey. Quest 3 all the way
Why are people so defensive of the apple vision pro is way more expensive than any other vr headset in the consumer market.
If not for games whats it for i would hate to be forced to work on this every day that sounds like a recipe for a head ache.
Its features are very limited and its price tag is too premium.
I get people waisting money on it if they have moeny to waiste and are an apple fan boy and have to have every other product but why would a normal person buy this who is this made for? It seems so purposeless to me. If its for media consumption spend 3,000 dollars on an amazing tv thats huge and doesnt give you a head ache and more than one person can use it. I have an ipad air because its a good product and i got it at a good price i dont hate apple but this is a dumb product that doesnt do anything new.
VR is the closest thing we have to Star Trek's Holodeck, yet I've never heard anyone describe the Holodeck as "An amazing place to get work done in".
Why are people comparing a 500$ device to a 3500$ device🤣 i dont get IT why all These people do IT... Thats Like comparing a Bugatti against a Beamer, yeah why tho
It’s like comparing a PS5 to a MacBook
@@macman2141 the ps5 IS sooo Bad at produktivity, man i could Not Run Photoshop, ps5 Bad🤣
Only people with "Fuck you" money are gonna drop $3500 on a headset. It's insane to argue that a vision pro is a better value in any sense right now.
Yeah I only have "Piss Off" money
yeah vision pro is definitely not better value. it for sure shows the peak of technology rn for what can be put in a headset. AVP is more for productivity and intuitiveness, and Quest is for gaming. their hardware shine better for what they’re made for.
Agreed, The technology is amazing, but making the argument of it being a better value comes off a little tone deaf by the LTT dude@@sippycuppp
How can you judge if you haven’t use the quest 3 before at all
I was about to comment this as well. Linus has but the other guy says he hasn’t. At least he said so, but its still so silly and lazy to report on a something that you can hardly relate to. I know these guys are super busy but they could both so easily get access to a Quest 3 to try it before reporting on it.
He's likely going off of Quest 2 use. Which tbf was god awful compared to quest 3 in just standalone use.
Meta will have AI in their next model, Apple can only dream about it. 😂😂
Meta's new VR headset may even let you fight Bruce Lee, using AI.
Apple is nowhere close. 😂😂
Man Luke's input is always so useless.
Notice how he responded to Linus' question by repeating everything Linus said before? Man I can't stand that, this guy is a joke.
Wow Linus so good at bleeping himself.
Speaking of "unbiased reviews".. Remember your recent controversy? 😅
Speaking of "unbiased reviews".. Remember your recent controversy? 😅
I think it's fair to the point of his personal experience but you're correct maybe his just not the target audience, but virtual reality for work is super dumb who wants to work in a virtual space that's lvl 9999 enslavement.
You’re wrong for that thumbnail 😂
I'm unsure if it's true but I read somewhere that the hand tracking is done at a lower refresh rate than the rest of the headset, causing gaming to be plain bad.
The hand tracking isn't for gaming, it's for taps, and vision pro is apparently way better at that. Each has its purpose and does it well, Zuck is playing with words. Kinda lost respect for him ngl.
@@Curiousinternetperaon i wouldnt say WAY better, this is a software problem, and until this point, there has not been a significant UI/UX update for quest 3, which has been in the pipel;ine for months now. this new update is coming soon, and it promises to fix every issue with UI/UX.
@@Curiousinternetperaon Gaming is literally the primary use of VR. Nice try, but your shepherd's calling you back.
@wta1518 "gaming is the primary use of vr"... You pretty much just ruined any credibility you have. I hate to break it to you, but the MAJORITY of people don't play video games. Yeah I know it's crazy not everyone lives on your little bubble. Also not sure what you mean by shepherd, probably some coping mechanism used by emotionally hurt individuals who cannot accept other people get to make a choice different to theirs.
@@Curiousinternetperaon Your argument is flawed because the majority of VR users do play games. 76% in case you were wondering.
Without gaming the Vision Pro is little more than a curiosity because it's going to take at least another generation for it to actually be viable for anything else.
im mutual friends with zucc, his buddy told me zucc was in a vr prawn black hole for a few weeks
I think it would be a pretty cool device to have while working from home or if you had some desk job, I think it could lessen time having to pick up your phone, etc. Just my 2 cents. But out in public with the battery pack and stuff is a bit much to be able to daily drive easy.
I don't want to give all that data to Apple OR Zuckpuppy. The only place they can't go is inside your head,.. until you put one of these things ON your head. The eyes are their window to control.
I liked mark’s look better when he was cosplaying as a Romulan from Star Trek. It’s a shame that he founded Facebook because if he hadn’t, he would have made a very good accountant for someone.
Imagine spending 4k and then extra 1k on controllers in few months lol
CrApple Sucks, and so do their users.
It appeals to people who want a status item and not a proper vr/ar headset.
That's a dumb generalization. I bought one, and it was because it was very immersive and the Quest 3 was comparatively pixelated, I bought it for a specific job and it does it very well. If you're gonna make a dumb generalization like that then I'll equally say Quest appeals to poor people and peasants who say what you say for cope (which is a stupid assumption but that's how fanboys on either sides sound)
@@Curiousinternetperaonwhat is the specific job? (also btw, the quest is not the only vr headset on the market, nor the best)
@Uryendel high resolution 3d video, watching HIGH quality movies while I'm laying in bed, ultra immersive video capturing and watching, an independent workstation on the go. They all have one thing in common: high fidelity displays and better processing power + integration with ipad ecosystem (I use android but the ipad ecosystem gives access to productivity apps). I wish people would just accept other people care about different things.
@@Curiousinternetperaon no you don't care about different thing, don't worry other people watch vr pr0n, you're not alone, nothing you said is exclusive to the apple vision pro, I would even said it's pretty basic feature that any vr headset has.
What I see is someone trying to lie to itself on why they spent 3500 USD on a very limited headset and would stop using it in 1 month, while regurgitating all the bs marketing point (no, it doesn't have a better display than an high end vr headset, noso-called productivity app are not limited to apple, no it's not a processing monster it's a web browsing device)
Why emulate a screen inside a VR headset and force apps to render inside it? Why not let each app be displayed in its own separate "window"? Must have been easier to code it up this way I guess. Some people might want to tile them on the same plane (or spherical plane), snap them, etc, but if you already have infinite virtual space to place them in why force them all into the same little window as the only option?
Because Windows managing is not Apple's forte
I see the Vision Pro is aimed at a different audience and not necessarily a real competitor against the Quest. I'm a stalwart Apple hater, but I have to say I do think the Vision Pro looks great and has a lot of awesome capabilities, but it feels like it's solely targeted towards a professional/productivity audience and not at all towards gaming, this is also reflected in the price. To some extent I wonder whether it's intentionally priced high to discourage the wrong audience from buying it and being disappointed
It's basically following the same rules as the quest pro did. "Premium dev kit for enterprise, that regular people can also buy if they want". Realistically everyone should despise this product just like the QP, but Apple and Disney levels of money can surgically remove bias somehow...
Apple Vision Pro is not a gaming headset. It’s a lifestyle “add-on”
Apples biggest hurdle wont be the Quest 3, its creating a product that is a better investment to its demographic (Developers, people who work on the go, etc) than just investing in a laptop and a PC with a couple monitors.
It's demographic are sheep that buy anything and everything..so yeah it'll sell
The Apple vision pro will have controllers eventually, but they will be released as an accessory for $2000 per controller
Thank God old Linus is back.
Finally not looking like a homeless person anymore!
😂😂😂
it's sad that I actually like Zuck nowadays after seeing Bezos and Musk be absolute monsters.
Tech billionaires fighting over a dead end product that only people in the silicon valley bubble would think anyone wants. 😂 I guess they learned nothing from google glass. These things will all be in closets and landfills in 2 years, and the failure is so utterly predictable.
Only at the 9 minute mark rn but one thing youve failed to consider is the absurd price difference between the two. This is an important distinction when considering best product overall. A 7x cost difference.
I get were Luke is coming from here but for productivity it's not a great headset yet either. Immersed Visor and future headsets like it are better suited for that since they are purpose built for productivity and work ergonomics; and, Quest is the better game and workout headset. So where does that leave the Vision Pro?
Calling Half Life "tedious" is the most L take I've ever heard.
If you wanna do some exercise while playing vr games try buying some wrist weights, I've been playing more laidback vr shooters (like into the radius) with 4 pound weights on my arms and have noticed a difference in strength/endurance in my arms
It’s a better product because it has more mature applications, give the vision pro a couple of years and we will see which product is better
I like how linus was just talking about zuks hair and at 2:14, linus' hair changes. 😂
Linus is bald and we never new it 😮😢
8:19 Luke, buddy, you do realise that, by "super made for them" is the same as "they are super sucked into the Apple Eco-System" if you do not own anything else Apple. The product just sucks. For you to actually, legitimately, find the product useful in day to day life and nothing more then just a very expensive gimmick, you have to be someone who owns an Iphone, who owns a Macbook or 3. Who owns an Ipad etc
The quest 3 would 100 percent be the better product HANDS DOWN if it's passthrough were 20 percent better
😎🧂
Apple is probably going to add/sell the controllers separately to get more money 😂💀
Mark definitely upgraded his human software for this video.
He's evolving
Couldn’t they just address the window size, number of windows, and saved app layouts in a software update? If so, doesn’t seem like much of a reflection on the product itself. I’m more concerned about the battery pack, wearability, etc
Edit: wait this baby faced little dude just said WHAT about Half Life?! LOOK GORDAN FREEMAN IN THE EYE AND SAY THAT
I think its same, as Windows vs Mac. Quest vs Vision Pro. Windows/Quest = best for gaming, good for productivity, great for entertaiment. Mac/Vision Pro = best for productivity, okay for gaming, great for entertaiment. Overall Windows is no brainer, but if you are only working, not gaming, Mac is way to go. I personally use Mac for my work, and I would have never switch back to Windows. But at home, always on Windows, gaming, watching movies/streams etc. Also I own Quest 3, and always gaming on it, casually watching movie/youtube and working out. Tried productivity with 3 virtual monitors, and its frustrating to look at the virtual monitors and not physical in front of me lol.
Bad take by Luke. You don't factor in "it's better because of a niche group of people." That's moronic. "I personally know multiple people..." What kind of argument is that? I know hundreds of people on my company. None of us uses it. Whose personal experience has more validity?
The quest 3 is just plain impressive to me. It’s not as good as a Vision Pro at a lot of things but I can’t believe the amount of “it’s a slightly better quest 2” type of reviews I see. In my mind it’s a WORLD of difference. The pass through is really impressive, the hand tracking is amazingly precise, the screens are super sharp, it’s pretty light, the head strap sucks but hey we can fix that. I freaking love mine and I couldn’t believe how much I hated the quest 2 when I used my buddies for a bit after getting used to the 3.
Linus … You don’t work in an office with other ppl. You have your separate room as your workspace. Not a luxury everybody has …
When you interact with others, you might also - hopefully- stop looking at your display(s). Same with ar/vr: take it off. Done.
any thing with out controls for gaming is awfull. stares at the kinnect. you dont say
I really can't believe we're still on this concept of "mimic a desktop computer experience in VR" this many years into the medium. Why are we even having the conversation of how many "screens" you can have in the Vision Pro?? A screen is a concept that exists on desktops out of physical necessity, not because it's the only or ideal way of doing things. VR/AR is never, EVER, going to get anywhere as a general purpose system until designers get that through their heads. And I say this as a day 1 VR evangelist. It's completely baffling.
Ya'll realize the front screen, AND the lenses are plastic... Like that is absolute trash for even a modest price headset, imagine paying $3500 for plastic lenses that scratch from anything.
The Vision Pro is a MacBook in vr. The quest 3 is a Xbox in vr. Different products. Now apples hardware is 100 times better.
Apple Vision Pro isn’t good it’s not made for anyone people can still do task faster by just using the regular device and not VR the Meta Quest 3 has way more use cases. The Apple Vision Pro feels like a first generation new product.
Apple vision pro made me discover Quest 3 and I think it’s the better VALUE for sure, also a solid product. I don’t think the vision pro is a good product, could get improved but it will still be bad.
I'm in favor with zuck for the quest 3. Apple might have a better software, but that'! Doesn't make out for the stupid decisions for the hardware they made...
well my thoughts on apple vs meta , 1 meta been around while so large mixed library of stuff,2 you can do 80% to 90% of things that apple can do , 3 price point of what you get ,4 meta has ability to get more in group thing ,than that of apple is for lonely apple ecosystem,5 apple has no freedom of creativity of been mad for masses of the world its not like windows person can just pick up to use for window or on android tablet or chromebook ,mte can be used in so many ways .6 the reall price of apple vision pro is half of wat you buy it , i would never think small hard drive basic so i would think going for 512 gb to 1 tb just to make sure am not runing out space , 7 apple care is ripoff what real cost to fix broken front 8 now there new thing hapen single scratch happening me over heat somthing but so its flowed 3500 basic , the bag is nice but its 200 pounds ,9 meta made so you culd me have glasses in it quest 3 .10 the crappy screen eyes crap ,and 3d averters personas . when met finishes there new codex it looks better than apple .11 apple have refamed othere new updates for met and also new samsung /google thing now few thing =s they can do make there better and me the new ring of samsung will be part of vr head set controler me be ,samsung will need to do what meta has just likere , of set with small front battery better bluetooth larger field of vier but still small a form of daisy chain power bank so off sets waight on both sides of head set and larrger pattery on back just an idea and the materals easy and less proen to braken , 12 quest 3 is lighert and also has front end batterit now cant fulet that can you any way nice video
Wow Linus you can zoom in WAY farther on an iPhone then you can on my Samsung like much farther. Tell me you haven’t used an iPhone in years without telling me you haven’t used one.
Yeah, you’re an Apple hater. You act as if the iPhone had at the start the 2 million apps it has today. Your insistence on controllers is exactly the criticism BlackBerry owners had with the iPhone not having a keyboard. Get with the future.
Next time don't get sidetracked into "we have a family, who has a time for this" rant. Seriously nobody gives a flying f about your life choices, focus on the thing you are reviewing...
Apple VR is just an overpriced product. Is that simple who is that for? For people who dont care abour features money spent ratio is just a toy. Is a bad value, is a bad product.
Oh hi Mark!
I see what u did there..
I did not hit her. 😢
It's strange that they even get compared in any sense, think of any other market with a 7x price difference and compare items, you don't. Diminishing return's unless super cashed up for the $ iChurch toy
linus saying the long hair is better on zuck while sitting there with shaved face insulting everyone’s eyes!
Kidding kidding, but seriously, bring the beard back :D
Zucc was counted out on Wall Street (my profession) 2 years ago and Zuccc said, “not so fast”. He’s been in beast mode these days, absolutely incredible 👏🏻.
Can Linus please grow the beard back or get a fake beard or something just so people will quit whining about it? The dude shaved. It’s not that big of a deal.
I’m gamer. As I love the Vision Pro. I get to do all the stuff I always wanted to use in vr like watch TH-cam surf the internet and talk to friends.
Imagine if linus and zuckerberg were friends. Zuckerberg would start stealing linus ideas from his company 😂
Quest 3 better product. I would say so. Vision pro is a lot better hardware. But apple is also VR's gateway into the mainstream. Perfect for meta or valve to release a product to reach the masses
I didn’t buy the first iPhone either but I’m just glad Apple has begun the process of developing this platform. I’d prefer this to them releasing a better headset in two years and then still having the software being in the infant stage
am i the only one who thinks the apple one is primarily for military special ops and is priced so high to make the US government spend more on them? Imagine having a device that responsive and able to display realtime locations of your comrades and enemy with detailed instruction and command and i'm pretty sure the apple one is perfect for it, and it's not like big tech companies haven't made shit for militaries in the past...
Have Facebook paid you Linux $400~$500 for a couple of hours of your time to do the review, or for Facebook you do reviews for free?
I pretty much agree with Zuck in everyway, I purchased the quest 3 2 weeks after Vision Pro release after a fair compareson.
Is unfair for Zucker to review it, BUT apple only sends samples early to selected pro apple users apple just manipulates the review market
Linus you’re so wrong about iPhone photos. Why don’t you know this being a tech guy it’s kinda sad you’re spreading misinformation
I highly doubt the working in it, and productivity thing. How is it better then mouse and kbm, or a drawing tablet, or anything else.
Why do you feel the need to offend people when you probably don’t want it done to yourself. Pretty unprofessional.
I thought it was a pretty good review. He harped on the cost and what games. That's why I want a headset. That being said he's the Zuckerberg
Complaining about gestures only 🤷♂️ surely your using your hands wrong 🤦♂️
I’m legit getting mad. This guy thinks he can just get rid of the beard whenever he wants and that there won’t be consequences. Lol