TLDR: Don't make an expensive product that is exclusive to your "eco-system" if you aren't going to integrate the rest of your eco-system into said product. A VR headset that only works on apple's approved apps is like buying a phone that can only call an uber. It's too restricted and made useless by the price.
@@Wanhope2 It's barely integrated because if you integrate a device too well, it would eliminate the need for the other products. Sounds contradictory, but if I can do everything on my mac, but with an ipad, I won't need a mac.
@Handles_AreStupid Ironic given the name, What you're arguing is completely self-congratulatory as you stated. At the end of the day, if a company restricts access to something to only one device because they don't want the uses to overlap. Then the consumer will always have a worse-off experience. You're essentially saying that these devices should have all their features split on to different platforms. Which would mean that all the functionality of these devices would be stripped. "Why does an iPad/iPhone need a search engine? My Mac has one." - Probably this guy
@@benchmarkerlovesgaming140 I don't think @Handles_AreStupid was champion the philosophy but instead were merely explaining why Apple does what they do.
I got a 128GB Quest 2 off eBay for £120 and it has provided me and even my kid with hours upon hours of entertainment. It seems so crazy that I could take that price, multiply it by 10, double that, and still not even be scraping the cheapest model of a headset that won't run a fraction of the games we play on it
The Quest 2 is great, I use it myself, Apple's whole model always hurts their devices and their users in the end so it is unfortunate Apple is so popular
Quest 2 was my first VR headset. Trust me, it's more than 30 times better. Maybe 30 times better than the best newest Pimax/Varjo headset you can find which I own both and I almost never touched either one again after getting apple vision pro. I spent more time in apple vision pro the first two weeks, than I did with Pimax Crystal for an entire year. If £120 is considered normal for Quest 2, then $3499 for apple vision pro is a steal.
Fun Fact: The most expensive Mac (at base prices) was the Twentieth Anniversary Mac, which would cost you $9000 when it released in 1997, which is equal to $17,400 today.
@@moccamixerThat is always the thing that is funny, Apple is praised for their hardware and software as if it is impressive when remembering you are paying more, wayyyy more than the competition, it is not something to be praised imo, for the prices Apple sells them for, it is "it better be", it is the baseline expectation, for the price of a used car headset it better be able to console me and gaslight me into believing it was a better purchase than a used car xD
What's sad about this piece of hardware is that if it wasn't for Apple's business practices this could be a good piece of hardware, that means PC/Windows compatible and easily repairable. Apple's insistence on propriety and anti-right to repair practices ruined what might have been a really neat piece of hardware.
It's a good piece of tech, the downside is the fact it's an Apple product. Hopefully some other company takes them apart and makes a cheaper more flexible alternative.
While some repairs could probably be much easier than how they are in this design, and unnecessary decisions were made to obscure repairability for sure (like easily scratching outer glass) I really doubt this tight ball of tech can reach a design state of being called "easily repairable".
It is windows and PC compatible. You can even play full blown PCVR games with it. The reason you didn’t know is because people are just spewing hate and making assumptions because it’s expensive and they don’t understand it. I’ve been seeing people saying they returned it only because of comfort issues, but if you know anything about VR, you’d know there would be 3rd party solutions, but VR is a new thing for most people so you can’t expect them to understand this stuff.
One of my favourite memories was waking up in a public VRChat world after falling asleep, with three guys standing around me all going, "Wakey wakey, it's time for schoo'... C'mon man, wake up, it's time for schoo'!" I just chuckled in my half-asleep state and rolled over.
As a 40 year old gamer who grew up before apple products or social media, The amount of distress of watching the world change to what is is today is like watching real life 1984 / zombie game/ matrix .
4:43 Smallest nitpick, the most expensive product that you can get on the Apple website is a Mac Pro Rack with all the bells and whistles. US Dollar Price: $12,947.98 Canadian Dollar: $17,688.88
Does a Mac Pro Rack really count as a consumer level product? If we're going as far as comparing something that touches enterprise or at least business level then we're going in to the hundreds of thousands and likely millions.
If you still have sleep paralysis you may have sleep apnea as well. It's probably a good idea to get a sleep study done on you. Your body goes into flight mode due to lack of sufficient oxygen, but you can't move because the paralysis is a protection mechanism to avoid injury by preventing sleep-walking. That is why you are aware that it's happening, your adrenalin is pumping during sleep paralysis.
to be honest, this whole BS reminds me of a short video called Hyper Reality, which was recorded somewhere in China. There was a lady riding a bus, feeding her AR pet, then getting some notifications and call, then she goes to a store where all the prices are displayed with 3ds like 3D feature and then she get out and gets injected with some malware which steals her data and so on. In the end she ends up factory resetting her implant chip thing and she gets like a new identity, looses all her money, can't get back into her house and many other awful things. It was a 30minute long video that I have somewhere saved on my nas (with EN subtitles) and after testing Vision Pro, I definitely got the "Hyper Reality" video vibes. I rented this headset in Turkey from some random middle aged guy for 3 hours and I was able to use it kinda like that lady with her AR chip but without all the annoying ads. Kinda scary to be honest but I was also kinda excited about this as if I would start my Mercedes W123 for the first time after installing my 1JZ Engine into it. However, it's not making any sense to me to use this device. I personally rarely use my iPhone and my iPad (not the mini/pro/air one) is only used for making art, editing the raw pictures from my Sony Alpha camera and to mainly do office stuff. So, getting Vision Pro is pointless for me. After testing this overhyped product, I rather considered upgrading my iPad to a 2024 iPad Pro since it'll get a better Apple M-Series chip, Samsung OLED Display and would allow me to make more layers on certain picture manipulation apps.
The worst sleep paralysis i experience is when i inadvertently wake up, paralyzed, and I'm on my stomach with my f*ing FACE DOWN on the pillow! Always feels like several minutes of terror, slowly suffocating and unable to do anything or signal anyone.
I'm all for high end VR headsets, but I'm going to let the dust settle and the bugs get ironed out over the next 3 to 4 years before jumping in. Definitely not rushing for first gen products.
@@mf-- me too but i bought a quest 2 and it does everything i wanted from a vr headset. read, wireless streaming from my pc at good quality. this, on the other hand, i don't see a use for.
man i just really wish we we could go back and not let facebook buy the entire market and derail it from the course it was on. vr was growing so fast. especially on the software side. and then they disrupted the market, got in the way of passionate teams and projects and pushed development towards the quest store. we started getting lazy copy paste cloness of the early tech demos and sandboxes like blade and sorcery. people stopped working on intuitive and groundbreaking design. 5 years ago i never would have thought we would still need controllers. hand tracking was already here. but nearly no games or programs use it. its so crazy to me. im currently having the best vr experience of my life. you know what it is? its a modded version of enderall (which is a complete game set with new lore using the skyrim engine and assets) its modded with every single vr related alteration mod that exists. and it it the most fun ive ever had in a game. enderall was released 7 years ago. its crazy.
@ghost-user559 I probably will, just waiting on the blade and sorcery 1.0 I also really wish someone could release an updated standalone headset for the mid tier. Just a good oled display on hdmi or wifi6, with hand tracking. Under 1000. I'm using a quest 2 but the qiest 3 really wasn't what I was waiting for. I HATE the lcd washed out look it's too apparant up close. Everyone keeps releasing these standalone smart headsets that cab do everything sub optimally. Instead of what I want. Well.
@@jesusbarrera6916 i dont discount that. they did alot for market saturation and pumped money into developers. it had positives. it helped more people get into vr. but why didnt they stay? imo its because the tech was still cooking and wasnt ready yet, and the market shifted to incentivize cheap output of what they had instead of building up a foundation. it wasnt worth it. vr would have gotten money anyway as it developed naturally. money can come from anywhere. facebook isnt special. we didnt need them. but they created a gold rush and tried to pull the trigger way too soon, now peopple think vr is a joke and all the groundbreaking vr tech is coming from modders.
I don't see a point in spending $3500 for a vision pro when a $500 Quest 3 already has 90% of its functionality without even trying to be a "spatial computer"
@@CarnyzzlePeople who bought both say there is no competition and the Apple Vision is better visually. Since its a headset that’s fairly relevant. People who bought both say that Quest has better apps, makes sense because its almost decade old and the third iteration. So really until we get 7 years of the vision pro its kind of hard to compare.
@@ghost-user559 Not hard to compare at all. Buying promises is always dumb in tech. You buy what works best NOW, so in reality it is really easy if you want a competent piece of hardware you don't buy this
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I recall hearing from an apple developer that this product was mostly intended for the developer space to make it usable for the wider public. After Apple discovered how developers made the iPhone a incredibly versatile device before any other company, they began to rely on Apple Devs for every product they released since then. Additionally, the cost was determined due to the fact that reasearch and development began in 2011. It took a lot to cram two ipads worth of hardware into a device that sits on a face. Full disclosure: I am a front end developer who works on Mac provided by my company, I prefer PC and Samsung
@fish5645 You realize I'm not endorsing Apple products, right? I'm simply sharing a brief review of the last massively successful products that Apple released and pulled a Bethesda with? "Let the developers make the market." If you heard the exact opposite, then you should conduct research on your own. While Apple never explicitly stated such, their intention was to allow developers to take the SDKs and the fully featured development tools, then make the headset have a market. Y'know, when auto manufacturers do the very same thing with their high-end vehicles, no one bats an eye. Look into the first vehicles with SRS airbags, ABS brakes, multi-barrel disk brake calipers, and electronic control systems. They had been implemented in expensive, high-end cars, excluding the people that they would eventually serve. Only the wealthy and trusted car enthusiasts could get them, and when they did, they had to perform constant surveys and questionnaires to help develop the systems further. While this isn't the _exact_ same, it's categorically similar. Release a high proce tag product with experimental featurea, rely on its consumers to improve it.
@@InvisibleSquids Ok but that's dumb. The Iphone had the Itunes app from the get go, anyone with an Ipod got immediate value out of getting an Iphone because back then, Phones were not commonly used as Music players, it was a novelty. This on the other hand is entering into an existing market with the purpose of doing the exact same thing as the rest of the Apple line of products while not allowing you the existing VR library meaning that any novelty value is gutted by lack of access to content. It would be like if the Iphone didn't come with Itunes and you had to wait a few years for a different music manager/player app to be created, it will be great when you can listen to your music collection BUUUUUUUT right now it's just a really expensive glass brick that takes phone calls.
My heart goes out to you for having to deal with sleep paralysis so often. I've dealt with it over the years but, like, less than 15 times total. It's absolutely terrifying.
About using it on a plane; you should try that and see how long it takes before the person next to you tells you to stop waving your hands in their face 🙂 I'm also very curious how these hand gestures work when you need to do anything accurately, like drag a marker a few milliseconds to the right.
Sleep paralysis happened to me like twice in my life. About a year ago the last time.. it was terrifying. You can only move your eyes... you try to scream but no sound comes out.. you can't even control your breathing, which is happening automatically as if it was another ones body, or some kind of machine your stuck in... a minute of paralysis feels like a prison your stuck in forever..
If you're able to next time it happens, try rationalizing with yourself and thinking through what sleep paralysis is and that you're not actually in any danger, your brain is essentially lying to you with anything scary you might be seeing, etc. Really helps me out
I hate this trend of releasing good products with absolutely nothing inside them, and even if they do offer things that you need its behind a paywall, jesus.
If they let this connect to PC natively this would actually be a top-tier VR HMD. That's all it actually needs. Yeah its expensive but the screen is Varjo level and the Varjo is like $5,000 and takes longer to buy one due to them catering to commercial customers.
Techbros are desperate to come up with the dumbest shit imaginable and make it cost the most money as possible while being as fragile as humanly possible.
Personally speaking, I'm surprised that since 2017, every phone company has gotten away with normalizing the idea of spending +1000$ on a phone. And now we have flagship phones going for near $2000. Like I get the obvious difference in quality. But are the differences really that worth the price difference that you should blow that much money on it?
@@desertsandfly2277 Unfortunately people seem to finance these so there's a market for that. A big majority of the people in the west is more than happy to spend more than they earn and keep on contracting credit in order to live "lavishly". Everyone be making really poor financial decisions even during times like this where prices are soaring and don't even get me started with housing..
@@desertsandfly2277 its not entirely the phone companies fault chip manufactures are charging 400$+ per chip and display manufacturers around 200-300$+per display
Tbh 90% of Android users use the same five apps that most iPhone users use TH-cam Snapchat Tik Tok Google and Instagram. Nobody would notice if somebody replaced your an Android phone with an iPhone for more than a day
@RichSmithson @yurialondor6230 - go install browser extension "Sponsor Block". It will make the player skip any intros, outros, ads, fillers, and much more like parts of a music video without any music. Go give it a shot. I cannot five videos in a row on YT without this addon.
@RichSmithsonI never understood why they make themselves so annoying for Like, they think I'll remember them for that and will buy their product out of spite, but I forgot they even exist till you mentioned it again
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There is no audio through when using it as an external monitor cause it's a "Vision" Pro. Maybe you need to pay another $800 for sth like an "Audio Pro for Vision Pro"
As anyone who has ever used one of those top projection OLED sunglasses, you'd know that the hardware is like 80% there for the use case of the Vision Pro (IE not VR gaming) No screen on the outside, 0nm passthrough delay because you can see right through the screen. while being $200-$400 Just needs to be a bit larger to allow for larger screens, or blending 2 of them for each eye for a larger field of view. Doesnt need to be in the same footprint as sunglasses Add some cameras for interactivity. move part of the compute into the battery puck and make it larger Add world tracking sensors but cut the ones you dont need for passthrough Allow it it be plugged into any USB-C device (tracking compute remains in the headset and passed though to the macbook PC/windows PC) Add a 2 layer B&W LCD that allows you to disable the passive passthrough. No external screen as people can just see through to your real eyes when the LCDs arent blocking out the world. I could see a similar performance headset with the fat properly trimmed, getting more than twice the battery life, at half the price.
Being conscious or aware of the moment you fall asleep is terrifying. It feels like you're falling into a deep hole right into your own bed and you can't do anything about it. Or wake back up terrified.
Had it when I was a kid, but I learned really quick how to deal with it. Funny how later when I would start practicing lucid dreaming I would try with all my might to induce it lol!
If you are having sleep paralysis episodes that’s usually a sign you have bad sleep patterns. I had SP throughout college. I’d go to bed late around 1-2am and still try to make my 8am classes. Then I’d catch up on sleep in the libraries by napping on their cubicles and that’s usually where these SP episodes would happen to me. One time it was so bad that this chick saw me sleeping with my eyes open, thought I was having a seizure and had the librarian almost call the paramedic. They shook me awake. The episodes went away when I started consistently going to bed early-ish (around 11pm) and getting up early-ish (6am). Then I relapsed and started having episodes again 5 years later and got rid of them again by going to bed early. 10 years later so far so good. No more SP.
The Apple Vision Pro is an excellent promotion for the Meta Quest 3. "Best/worst device" sums it up too well if it has so much amazing hardware and software built in, but is all but useless by virtue of being an Apple product and tied to their environment. Does more, costs less... Remember when that was Apple's slogan? Seems impossible to believe it used to be.
@@staringcorgi6475 I think that goes without saying. I believe even Apple themselves have said this is more for productivity than gaming and leisure, even if there are still games available for it. But it's like what Mutahar said, if you're going to spend 3,500+ Freedom Bucks™ or 5,000+ Maple Money™ on a device that gives you a big ass display, why don't you buy a big ass display? If you're in a niche case where that wouldn't be practical in your workspace, then I concede, but I think most of us have enough deskspace. This is just a classic example of Apple Tax. If it was anyone else with a bleeding-edge, professional-grade HMD with the exact same specs, it would likely be around $1,500, probably $1,800 at the most.
Those features like pinning virtual windows to real walls could be very useful in a library or a warehouse for a big company that can spare the money. But for the average user, as cool as it is to pinch a genshin impact window onto your kitchen, it's not exactly a killer feature to pay $3500 for. They are really missing the mark by targeting this as an everyday home product instead of focusing on business or industrial settings.
@@Coliflower185 maybe not those but in a lab or hospital I can definitely see it being useful. Not everyone needs to see what’s on your wall. I would love to have one displaying schematics while working with PCBs. You can imagine analogous applications in medicine, plumbing, engineering etc
Majority of people won't use it for business either. So many people get tired of using a headset or get motion sickness. It literally is the reason the AR helmets for the military is going wrong as well.
For a new product, I guess it is understandable that it doesn't have many apps to use yet in the app store, prolly because these apps are still in the midst of being developed. With that said, you are right that it creates a disadvantage to Apple because, they have all along restricted compatibility with other products. I think the hope of Apple, is that there will be app developers who are willing to bet on them and move towards swift and create app store products. But they fail to understand that, these app developers are also driven by monetary gains, the clear choice for them is to create their apps where there will be availability to a wider audience. Unless Apple suddenly starts sponsoring developers to develop exclusively for App store, they will eventually lose their market share that they are desperately trying to hold on to right now. sadd..
Just an fyi on price… it’s actually in line with its competition. Especially is business/workplace users are the target. $1500 - $4000 is normal if their goal is to enter the AR space primarily. I think the magic leap 2 got a certification for some medical use a few years ago and sits around the $3500 range.
I've experienced sleep paralysis once. I hadn't fully fallen asleep but I realized I needed to plug my phone in so I just kinda woke up, but when I opened my eyes it was strange. I couldn't move more than maybe half a centimeter, started seeing shadowy figures and I had this just fucking horrible feeling that someone was coming for me. It took around 3 seconds to power through but I was terrified for those few seconds even though I knew it was in my head.
it looks like he got some sun, too, which is probably what’s helping the most. when somebody is so so pale and then they’re only photographed under fluorescent lights, they usually look a bit uncanny. here he’s got warmer colours and is in natural sunlight
It’s the slow breathing, slow heartbeat, and the feeling of sheer panic, feeling like you are suffocating to death is the most brutal part of sleep paralysis for my horribly extreme form of it… My sleep paralysis is so bad that unless I wake myself up 100% for at least 30minutes or so, I will instantly fall back into sleep paralysis if I don’t, plus sleeping on my back is a sure fire way to trigger my sleep paralysis as well… I have to put all my effort into wiggling myself out of it, and unless I get up out of bed and stumble myself around my bedroom with my limbs partially still paralyzed, and unless I do manage to get out of bed and wake up 100% my sleep paralysis will keep happening as I fall asleep or wake up… It’s so bloody brutal! I feel your pain Muta… Get a sleep study done, as I’m actually right on the line of having narcolepsy, and there may be treatments available to reduce the frequency and how extreme your sleep paralysis is! Seriously it’s not worth suffering so much unnecessarily! I wish you the best, and hopefully you find an effective treatment for such a brutal medical condition!
Not that it factors in too much, but sleep paralysis can be gut/diet related too. It can be hernia related (hiatal etc) or a side effect of vagal nerve overstimulation during rest…the paralysis is kind of in the same group as vaso vagal syncope
i don't think is failure, they going to learn a lot from this Apple Vision Pro, more Apps, even better OS, and after a while you get them much cheaper or smaller, i think they made this for future AR only glasses, that look more like sunglasses.
It's like someone put it, this is the first iPhone iteration, so it's pretty barebones, it'll take a while to get to the point where other VR headsets are in terms of apps that are available on it as well as software
@@Dave102693Not really. It only had one carrier, barely got reception anywhere in the country, and had no apps. The rose tinted glasses are strong with that one. People didn’t really like it until the 4 came out.
The iPhone didn't cost three and a half times as much as the competitors and there were very few devices that achieved what it brought up; this headset is pretentious garbage.
@@osherothThis! Never been a huge iPhone fan but it was relatively financially accessible to most people buying cellphones at the time. The price of the headset is astronomical compared to other products in the VR/AR market.
These headsets can't get better until we make a breakthrough in battery tech or power efficiency to run a modern PC + Screen on a the power of a watch battery and considering neither of those things are happening any time soon (It's been 30 odd years since the last major development in Battery tech, my hopes are not high), VR goggles are just gunna be novelty toys for rich tech bros. For now though, enjoy wearing the weight of 2-3 laptop batteries on your face for a device that only lasts a few hours at best.
Sleep paralysis. I get something like that. I didn't know that counted as sleep paralysis until you described it and showed that long explanation. It's not often, but if I fall asleep in the living room in the recliner and lights are still on and TV is going (lots of sensory stimuli), then I get this effect where I can't wake up. It's similar to a lucid dream, but I am fully aware of my surroundings (even visually). I feel half awake, if that makes sense. I'm usually trying to yell for someone to come wake me up, or I'm floating up toward the ceiling (which makes me wonder if my eyes are really open or if I'm actually "out of body" in a metaphysical way). It's rather irritating that people are in the other room and can't hear me yelling and come shake me awake (obviously, I'm not really yelling). It never really panicked me, though. I just lay there until it wears off. If I'm in bed and it's dark and quiet, I don't get this effect. In my case, it seems to be related to low levels of melatonin (ex: sleeping in the middle of the day after a big meal) and a lot of external sensory stimuli around me. Notably, this has only ever happened when someone else is in the house with me. I've been single living alone for the last 3 years, and it has not happened once while alone in the house (even when falling asleep in the chair with TV on). That may also be because I quit drinking 3 years ago after 20 years of alcoholism. Just contemplating correlations, as you said that music, etc. keeps you from getting this condition. Whereas such stimuli could cause it for me.
it's very impressive hardware but it's a really niche market not that many people will pay the $3500 for something that can be done on cheaper but similar hardware.
Not right now. Actually that is a good price for such hardware. Not many will pay, thats why Apple did not produce that much. But there is just no competition right now.
@@The_Real_Lord_FriezaYeah but at that point it wont cost that much. The earlier Macs were like 8-10k for the fully upgraded ones with color displays and printers and a mouse and keyboard. Now you can get one for 400$ on sale. It’s how it always goes with tech
@@stringsofdespair No the price is trash. The example is "you would buy a ferrari in a world with no gasoline?" NO. The hardware needs support, the passthrough is excelent but virtually useless, the eyetracking is stellar, but still worse than picking my phone up, the display is incredible but not the best display that amount of money can buy. It can do a lot of cool things that everyone can do better spending less, so the price is trash.
I have pretty chronic sleep paralysis and i have never gotten used to it. It scares the shit out of me every time like i feel I'm not going to pull out of it and I'll be trapped in this weird state forever. It happens to me mostly in early morning/middle of night after I've been asleep for a while. I can slightly open my eyes enough to see my surroundings a little which makes it even more terrifying. I strain so hard to move and wiggle my feet to shake myself out of it because I can feel myself slipping further into it. I absolutely despise when it happens and there is nothing i can do about it and I can't tell when it might happen.
I’m a decade-long apple user between iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, and a vintage patched Mac (the only missing link being a newer officially-supported Mac), but between the Apple Vision Pro launching at an eye-watering $3500, and the already-affordable $400 Meta Quest 2 falling to $300 *and then* to $200 a few weeks ago, I finally made the VR jump with a Quest 2. Just *can not* argue with that kind of value in choosing my first true VR headset (especially to gain access to wireless PCVR so I can *finally* experience Half-Life Alyx among countless other VR games)
but also sounds like a huge waste of energy being in a high-res raytraced VR with the eyes closed for 99% of the time. Though that could be remediable with eye tracking that turns off the screen and processing while the eyes are closed.
Why would I need another desktop when I already have one: stationary or/and laptop (in that case stationary can be used as server for backups or for work offload to not struggle with restrictions of mobile device)?
Sleep paralysis can be terrifying. Once I went with my family to the beach off-season and we had a very experience at night. We were all so stressed that my mother suffered from sleep paralysis. It was so horrifying for her that my sister got scared and conditioned herself to suffer it. At a later date I tried to see if I could condition myself into suffering it, and I found myself paralyzed while watching my ceiling fan getting louder, faster, bigger, and closer each second, until it reached me and I fully woke up from the scare. So I had a nightmare even when I was fully aware of what was happening.
I don't understand why VR keeps getting pushed despite after so many years, it is still nothing but a novelty. I've only met 1 person who owns a VR headset
i used to get s. paralysis horribly when i used to drink heavily. I still get it now, but a lot less. Believe or not you can get better at breaking free in a quicker amount of time. What works good for me is focusing on trying to tuck my chin down into my upper chest, it sounds weird but it works.
Same I get sleep paralysis. It freaks me out when you actually get that sensation that somebody's lurking right next to you or something. It's like my mind wants me to go back to sleep but I'm so anxious to wake up and scared to death that I'll be stuck like that.
This product is literally my dream work machine, in theory. I personally feel that $3,500, while steep, is worth it for me solely on the idea that I can instantly transport several external high-end monitors with me everywhere I go as an editor. It's mind boggling to me that they nerfed it so bad in that regard, for no apparent reason. I can understand the limited app availability, that's more on the developer's end, but the things that THEY themselves limited with no good reason has me floored.
I also deal with sleep paralysis. It's triggered by me sleeping on my stomach, i found out after many early years of trial and error. I trained my body to only fall asleep on my side or back and stay that way. He should see if it's a certain sleeping position that makes his body lock up like that.
The second it was announced, I hated it. They just decided to sell one more device that only works with the iPhone. I saw someone using it. it does not make you look badass, it makes you look like an idiot.
I think the ultimate in and out plug in play VR combination at this point, if it existed, would be a Quest 3 wirelessly connected to a Series X for more power. PSVR2 unfortunately has too many irritating issues.
The way I see the Vision Pro is similar to the first generation Oculus headsets, it's a proof of concept that is really demonstrating how AR can be pushed forward into the future, but for now is only suitable for early adopters and enthusiasts, and isn't really suitable for serious use. But when the second or third generation AR headsets come around, and all the issues have been ironed out and the price is lower, we'll see much greater adoption...
@@Needler13 Well, when I say "greater adoption" I just meant adoption of AR to a similar level as VR is currently adopted with devices the Meta Quest 2 and PSVR. I'm not saying that everyone's going to own them. I'm not one of these people who thinks that we're all going to be living in Ready Player One within a few years.
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TLDR: Don't make an expensive product that is exclusive to your "eco-system" if you aren't going to integrate the rest of your eco-system into said product. A VR headset that only works on apple's approved apps is like buying a phone that can only call an uber. It's too restricted and made useless by the price.
It’s like the iPad as well, even apple fanboys are bothered since it’s barely integrated for “reasons”
@@Wanhope2 It's barely integrated because if you integrate a device too well, it would eliminate the need for the other products. Sounds contradictory, but if I can do everything on my mac, but with an ipad, I won't need a mac.
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@Handles_AreStupid Ironic given the name,
What you're arguing is completely self-congratulatory as you stated.
At the end of the day, if a company restricts access to something to only one device because they don't want the uses to overlap. Then the consumer will always have a worse-off experience.
You're essentially saying that these devices should have all their features split on to different platforms. Which would mean that all the functionality of these devices would be stripped.
"Why does an iPad/iPhone need a search engine? My Mac has one." - Probably this guy
@@benchmarkerlovesgaming140 I don't think @Handles_AreStupid was champion the philosophy but instead were merely explaining why Apple does what they do.
Mark Zuckerberg looks like an actual human with a beard.
And he decided to shave it off, now he’s a Lizard again.
Don't be fooled
Wonder how much TRT he is on to "grow" it lol
He upgrade from T600 to T800
sadly it was AI generated
I got a 128GB Quest 2 off eBay for £120 and it has provided me and even my kid with hours upon hours of entertainment. It seems so crazy that I could take that price, multiply it by 10, double that, and still not even be scraping the cheapest model of a headset that won't run a fraction of the games we play on it
The Quest 2 is great, I use it myself, Apple's whole model always hurts their devices and their users in the end so it is unfortunate Apple is so popular
I got the quest 3 and yea it’s really good and great for social gatherings due to Space encounters and bowling.
Thanks for this comment dude. I'm ordering one now. I just want to try a cheap one to see if I like it first.
Quest 2 was my first VR headset. Trust me, it's more than 30 times better. Maybe 30 times better than the best newest Pimax/Varjo headset you can find which I own both and I almost never touched either one again after getting apple vision pro. I spent more time in apple vision pro the first two weeks, than I did with Pimax Crystal for an entire year. If £120 is considered normal for Quest 2, then $3499 for apple vision pro is a steal.
@@lihaida5838 LMAO
Fun Fact: The most expensive Mac (at base prices) was the Twentieth Anniversary Mac, which would cost you $9000 when it released in 1997, which is equal to $17,400 today.
It was the fastest when it was released and very hyped.
at base price.
maxed out, the 2019 mac pro was over $50,000
We have more expensive macs rn
@@moccamixerThat is always the thing that is funny, Apple is praised for their hardware and software as if it is impressive when remembering you are paying more, wayyyy more than the competition, it is not something to be praised imo, for the prices Apple sells them for, it is "it better be", it is the baseline expectation, for the price of a used car headset it better be able to console me and gaslight me into believing it was a better purchase than a used car xD
@@your_average_cultured_dude”base price maxed out”
So not base..
What's sad about this piece of hardware is that if it wasn't for Apple's business practices this could be a good piece of hardware, that means PC/Windows compatible and easily repairable. Apple's insistence on propriety and anti-right to repair practices ruined what might have been a really neat piece of hardware.
Agreed
no
It's a good piece of tech, the downside is the fact it's an Apple product. Hopefully some other company takes them apart and makes a cheaper more flexible alternative.
While some repairs could probably be much easier than how they are in this design, and unnecessary decisions were made to obscure repairability for sure (like easily scratching outer glass) I really doubt this tight ball of tech can reach a design state of being called "easily repairable".
It is windows and PC compatible. You can even play full blown PCVR games with it.
The reason you didn’t know is because people are just spewing hate and making assumptions because it’s expensive and they don’t understand it. I’ve been seeing people saying they returned it only because of comfort issues, but if you know anything about VR, you’d know there would be 3rd party solutions, but VR is a new thing for most people so you can’t expect them to understand this stuff.
I aint spending 3500 bucks on this shit
Yup cost 2x more than a top of the line PC
@@ctg4818because it has 2x newer tech
You could buy multiple games for whatever platform or platforms and still get better value than a Vision Pro.
I would give up sitting in business class to sit in coach with one of these things though. Except there wouldn't be an outlet 😭
ok
I still don’t understand the demographic for this product
Rich people with money
Supporting a concept design.
white people
@@dolemites_chainowners it got recalled no body owns it now. Unless you like gambling with your life
apple fanatics. they would spend 10k on an iTurd if it was released tomorrow.
Imagine paying 3500 to essentially be a beta tester
One of my favourite memories was waking up in a public VRChat world after falling asleep, with three guys standing around me all going, "Wakey wakey, it's time for schoo'... C'mon man, wake up, it's time for schoo'!" I just chuckled in my half-asleep state and rolled over.
Get help man
get help and a life
Lmao that's hilarious
@@Realamerixan Dude's just sharing a happy memory. Why the negativity?
@@enmanuel1950 it’s weird why is he sleeping in vr goggles? This is some discord addict behavior
At this point, doctors should sue Apple for causing emotional distress.
As a 40 year old gamer who grew up before apple products or social media, The amount of distress of watching the world change to what is is today is like watching real life 1984 / zombie game/ matrix .
100th like
Why would they sue Apple for something that makes them more money?
@@StationaryGamingRealunfortunate you just hadn’t refreshed your comments to see that I was in fact the 100th like
That’s me every time someone says something bad about starfield
Blud is about to get cancelled on Twitter like Marques Brownlee because he honestly reviewed a product💀
Let 'em cry.
what do you mean? it was the best manscaped commercial ever?!
if only his honest review caused apple to go out of business
Marques got cancelled? He of all people!
Blud? What are you, 12?
4:43 Smallest nitpick, the most expensive product that you can get on the Apple website is a Mac Pro Rack with all the bells and whistles.
US Dollar Price: $12,947.98
Canadian Dollar: $17,688.88
You can buy a used 2014 Mercedes E550 for under 110k km for about that price in CAD
Yeah I almost made a poor financial decision lol...
I think it's more, perhaps it was the old generation but one of them got up to like 50k, so a good car new
Does a Mac Pro Rack really count as a consumer level product?
If we're going as far as comparing something that touches enterprise or at least business level then we're going in to the hundreds of thousands and likely millions.
@@threemooyou’re right, I’m sure apple has way more expensive products than that too, but not at consumer level products of course.
Bruh said 🤓👆
If you still have sleep paralysis you may have sleep apnea as well. It's probably a good idea to get a sleep study done on you. Your body goes into flight mode due to lack of sufficient oxygen, but you can't move because the paralysis is a protection mechanism to avoid injury by preventing sleep-walking. That is why you are aware that it's happening, your adrenalin is pumping during sleep paralysis.
to be honest, this whole BS reminds me of a short video called Hyper Reality, which was recorded somewhere in China.
There was a lady riding a bus, feeding her AR pet, then getting some notifications and call, then she goes to a store where all the prices are displayed with 3ds like 3D feature and then she get out and gets injected with some malware which steals her data and so on. In the end she ends up factory resetting her implant chip thing and she gets like a new identity, looses all her money, can't get back into her house and many other awful things. It was a 30minute long video that I have somewhere saved on my nas (with EN subtitles) and after testing Vision Pro, I definitely got the "Hyper Reality" video vibes. I rented this headset in Turkey from some random middle aged guy for 3 hours and I was able to use it kinda like that lady with her AR chip but without all the annoying ads.
Kinda scary to be honest but I was also kinda excited about this as if I would start my Mercedes W123 for the first time after installing my 1JZ Engine into it.
However, it's not making any sense to me to use this device. I personally rarely use my iPhone and my iPad (not the mini/pro/air one) is only used for making art, editing the raw pictures from my Sony Alpha camera and to mainly do office stuff. So, getting Vision Pro is pointless for me. After testing this overhyped product, I rather considered upgrading my iPad to a 2024 iPad Pro since it'll get a better Apple M-Series chip, Samsung OLED Display and would allow me to make more layers on certain picture manipulation apps.
The worst sleep paralysis i experience is when i inadvertently wake up, paralyzed, and I'm on my stomach with my f*ing FACE DOWN on the pillow! Always feels like several minutes of terror, slowly suffocating and unable to do anything or signal anyone.
I have had some too, but that face on the pillow thing happened only once that was damn scary felt like I was going to die there.
💀💀💀 bruh
I feel for you guys. i hope these things fade away with time.
the best trick i've heard it to try laughing. this will likely unlock your body.
I used to get it and not know what it was, thought i was being attacked by ghosts 💀
Sleep paralysis is all bull shit
I'm all for high end VR headsets, but I'm going to let the dust settle and the bugs get ironed out over the next 3 to 4 years before jumping in.
Definitely not rushing for first gen products.
I said that probably 10 years ago. Not expecting anything soon.
@@mf-- It took the iPhone maybe 3-4 years to go from kind of interesting to something that was solid. Probably will take AR longer to get refined.
@@mf-- VR is always going to be a mess. Computers still are.
@@mf-- the OCULUS is quite ironed out by now... it is worth the $500 if you know what you are getting into
@@mf-- me too but i bought a quest 2 and it does everything i wanted from a vr headset. read, wireless streaming from my pc at good quality.
this, on the other hand, i don't see a use for.
man i just really wish we we could go back and not let facebook buy the entire market and derail it from the course it was on. vr was growing so fast. especially on the software side. and then they disrupted the market, got in the way of passionate teams and projects and pushed development towards the quest store. we started getting lazy copy paste cloness of the early tech demos and sandboxes like blade and sorcery. people stopped working on intuitive and groundbreaking design. 5 years ago i never would have thought we would still need controllers. hand tracking was already here. but nearly no games or programs use it. its so crazy to me.
im currently having the best vr experience of my life. you know what it is?
its a modded version of enderall (which is a complete game set with new lore using the skyrim engine and assets)
its modded with every single vr related alteration mod that exists. and it it the most fun ive ever had in a game.
enderall was released 7 years ago. its crazy.
Facts
Bro try Open Morrowind and mod the pants of of it. It has a Vr port. Add all the graphics mods and then add “Tamriel Rebuilt” and it’s amazing.
@ghost-user559 I probably will, just waiting on the blade and sorcery 1.0
I also really wish someone could release an updated standalone headset for the mid tier. Just a good oled display on hdmi or wifi6, with hand tracking. Under 1000. I'm using a quest 2 but the qiest 3 really wasn't what I was waiting for.
I HATE the lcd washed out look it's too apparant up close. Everyone keeps releasing these standalone smart headsets that cab do everything sub optimally. Instead of what I want. Well.
I think you guys undestimate how much R&D Facebook has put into the entire VR space...
@@jesusbarrera6916 i dont discount that. they did alot for market saturation and pumped money into developers. it had positives. it helped more people get into vr.
but why didnt they stay?
imo its because the tech was still cooking and wasnt ready yet, and the market shifted to incentivize cheap output of what they had instead of building up a foundation.
it wasnt worth it. vr would have gotten money anyway as it developed naturally. money can come from anywhere. facebook isnt special. we didnt need them. but they created a gold rush and tried to pull the trigger way too soon, now peopple think vr is a joke and all the groundbreaking vr tech is coming from modders.
Just hold your phone really close to your face
People who tried it 👇
Its called google cardboard
@MotiejusImpolevicius timeless and comfortably familiar with a sturdy construction
ROFL
Ordinary said "EmuVR" and I instantly realized bro ACTUALLY plays vr. Bro is a VR enthusiast, respect.
He sleeps in VR, he probably secretly sleeps in sleeping worlds in VRChat
I don't see a point in spending $3500 for a vision pro when a $500 Quest 3 already has 90% of its functionality without even trying to be a "spatial computer"
$3500
@@AlienWavesTV
Oh right still no point when the Quest 3 exists lmao
@@CarnyzzlePeople who bought both say there is no competition and the Apple Vision is better visually. Since its a headset that’s fairly relevant. People who bought both say that Quest has better apps, makes sense because its almost decade old and the third iteration. So really until we get 7 years of the vision pro its kind of hard to compare.
@@ghost-user559 Not hard to compare at all. Buying promises is always dumb in tech. You buy what works best NOW, so in reality it is really easy if you want a competent piece of hardware you don't buy this
Quest 3 has much more functionality since you can connect it to pc.
I used to have sleep paralysis when I was a child. I had to wake my body from my head to neck and limb to limb.
I still get it occasionally. I’ve learned how to make a humming sound when it happens so my wife can wake me up. It freaks her out lol.
@@oofrankhicksThat’s actually really cool
I had sleep paralysis once. It was terrifying. I hope I never have it again in my life.
I experienced it at one point as well it was a genuinely terrifying experience, haven't had it since thankfully.
@@oofrankhicksI really hope this isn’t offensive, but I found it hilarious at the thought of you somewhat humming aggressively to wake up your wife, lol! “Hmmmmm, HMMMMMM”
I recall hearing from an apple developer that this product was mostly intended for the developer space to make it usable for the wider public. After Apple discovered how developers made the iPhone a incredibly versatile device before any other company, they began to rely on Apple Devs for every product they released since then.
Additionally, the cost was determined due to the fact that reasearch and development began in 2011. It took a lot to cram two ipads worth of hardware into a device that sits on a face.
Full disclosure: I am a front end developer who works on Mac provided by my company, I prefer PC and Samsung
I heard the complete opposite of what you just said.
Full disclosure: Trust me bro, I can type as well.
@fish5645 You realize I'm not endorsing Apple products, right? I'm simply sharing a brief review of the last massively successful products that Apple released and pulled a Bethesda with? "Let the developers make the market." If you heard the exact opposite, then you should conduct research on your own. While Apple never explicitly stated such, their intention was to allow developers to take the SDKs and the fully featured development tools, then make the headset have a market.
Y'know, when auto manufacturers do the very same thing with their high-end vehicles, no one bats an eye. Look into the first vehicles with SRS airbags, ABS brakes, multi-barrel disk brake calipers, and electronic control systems. They had been implemented in expensive, high-end cars, excluding the people that they would eventually serve. Only the wealthy and trusted car enthusiasts could get them, and when they did, they had to perform constant surveys and questionnaires to help develop the systems further.
While this isn't the _exact_ same, it's categorically similar. Release a high proce tag product with experimental featurea, rely on its consumers to improve it.
@fish5645 anyone is anything on the Internet they just need to be remotely presentable and say the correct buzz word in the right order
@@InvisibleSquids Ok but that's dumb. The Iphone had the Itunes app from the get go, anyone with an Ipod got immediate value out of getting an Iphone because back then, Phones were not commonly used as Music players, it was a novelty. This on the other hand is entering into an existing market with the purpose of doing the exact same thing as the rest of the Apple line of products while not allowing you the existing VR library meaning that any novelty value is gutted by lack of access to content. It would be like if the Iphone didn't come with Itunes and you had to wait a few years for a different music manager/player app to be created, it will be great when you can listen to your music collection BUUUUUUUT right now it's just a really expensive glass brick that takes phone calls.
My heart goes out to you for having to deal with sleep paralysis so often. I've dealt with it over the years but, like, less than 15 times total. It's absolutely terrifying.
About using it on a plane; you should try that and see how long it takes before the person next to you tells you to stop waving your hands in their face 🙂
I'm also very curious how these hand gestures work when you need to do anything accurately, like drag a marker a few milliseconds to the right.
Sleep paralysis happened to me like twice in my life. About a year ago the last time.. it was terrifying. You can only move your eyes... you try to scream but no sound comes out.. you can't even control your breathing, which is happening automatically as if it was another ones body, or some kind of machine your stuck in... a minute of paralysis feels like a prison your stuck in forever..
If you're able to next time it happens, try rationalizing with yourself and thinking through what sleep paralysis is and that you're not actually in any danger, your brain is essentially lying to you with anything scary you might be seeing, etc. Really helps me out
I had a sleep paralysis except it was wholesome/sad more than anything
Imagine that's the default state after one dies 😮
I hate this trend of releasing good products with absolutely nothing inside them, and even if they do offer things that you need its behind a paywall, jesus.
Basically every game nowadays
If they let this connect to PC natively this would actually be a top-tier VR HMD. That's all it actually needs. Yeah its expensive but the screen is Varjo level and the Varjo is like $5,000 and takes longer to buy one due to them catering to commercial customers.
Techbros are desperate to come up with the dumbest shit imaginable and make it cost the most money as possible while being as fragile as humanly possible.
Personally speaking, I'm surprised that since 2017, every phone company has gotten away with normalizing the idea of spending +1000$ on a phone. And now we have flagship phones going for near $2000. Like I get the obvious difference in quality. But are the differences really that worth the price difference that you should blow that much money on it?
$1000+ phone only to have only 4+ years of software support is the real crime here SMH@@desertsandfly2277
@@desertsandfly2277 Unfortunately people seem to finance these so there's a market for that. A big majority of the people in the west is more than happy to spend more than they earn and keep on contracting credit in order to live "lavishly". Everyone be making really poor financial decisions even during times like this where prices are soaring and don't even get me started with housing..
@@desertsandfly2277 its not entirely the phone companies fault chip manufactures are charging 400$+ per chip and display manufacturers around 200-300$+per display
It's a niche product in a niche field. Of course it wasn't going to be huge right out of the gate. Anyone saying otherwise is just silly
0:06 “who knows when you need to groom?"
💀💀💀
Lmao at “Everyone FREAKS tf out” on FaceTime
Image charging $3500 for a VR headset that doesn't have VR and spontaneously shatters.
*Emotional Damage!*
wait, spontaneously shatters?
The glass cracks on its own for mo reason
Not surprised Apple sucks
*typed on iphone
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
@@cayder7485 crazyy
Brace yourself the Apple fanboys are coming
Tbh 90% of Android users use the same five apps that most iPhone users use TH-cam Snapchat Tik Tok Google and Instagram. Nobody would notice if somebody replaced your an Android phone with an iPhone for more than a day
Absolutely love going through two unskippable ads just to have the word "manscape" shoved right in my face lmao can't win with this shit anymore
ReVanced, took care of both of those for me (although I did get a split second of MANSCAPED)
@RichSmithson @yurialondor6230 - go install browser extension "Sponsor Block". It will make the player skip any intros, outros, ads, fillers, and much more like parts of a music video without any music. Go give it a shot. I cannot five videos in a row on YT without this addon.
@RichSmithsonI never understood why they make themselves so annoying for
Like, they think I'll remember them for that and will buy their product out of spite, but I forgot they even exist till you mentioned it again
Tbh, I don't get the point of manscaped in general. Like,I've never found it difficult or inconvenient to groom myself, it's a thing I do like once a month that takes 5 minutes and I use a cheap electric razer from wal mart. I feel like they want you to hear their name over and over and get the idea to buy them driven into your subconscious@@tydshiin5783
Crying laughing at this comment but also, yeah hate the ads 💀
Hearing you sleeping in a Minecraft world is actually dystopian but nobody is gonna see it like that cause it’s Minecraft 😂
There is no audio through when using it as an external monitor cause it's a "Vision" Pro. Maybe you need to pay another $800 for sth like an "Audio Pro for Vision Pro"
Could you imagine how terrifying Zucks avatar for the vision pro is, you would have nightmares forever.
Minecraft youtubers hearing muta say "you never know when you'll need to groom"
Looks like Zuck could use some manscaped...
Back to lizard look if he shaves
Lizardscaped
Ntgl at least he looks more human with a beard so....
15:37 Persona Muta being visibly concerned is the best part of this video. That alone is worth the thousands you spent.
Apple products would be amazing if Apple drops the “closed ecosystem” they are so obsessed with.
sorry I mean to say.. annoying if *
@@unkown34x33 huh?
As anyone who has ever used one of those top projection OLED sunglasses, you'd know that the hardware is like 80% there for the use case of the Vision Pro (IE not VR gaming)
No screen on the outside, 0nm passthrough delay because you can see right through the screen. while being $200-$400
Just needs to be a bit larger to allow for larger screens, or blending 2 of them for each eye for a larger field of view. Doesnt need to be in the same footprint as sunglasses
Add some cameras for interactivity. move part of the compute into the battery puck and make it larger
Add world tracking sensors but cut the ones you dont need for passthrough
Allow it it be plugged into any USB-C device (tracking compute remains in the headset and passed though to the macbook PC/windows PC)
Add a 2 layer B&W LCD that allows you to disable the passive passthrough.
No external screen as people can just see through to your real eyes when the LCDs arent blocking out the world.
I could see a similar performance headset with the fat properly trimmed, getting more than twice the battery life, at half the price.
Being conscious or aware of the moment you fall asleep is terrifying. It feels like you're falling into a deep hole right into your own bed and you can't do anything about it. Or wake back up terrified.
I jolt awake, heart thumping, and then go back to sleep
I had sleep paralysis from childhood until my 30s. Haven't experienced it in a few years now. It is terrifying
Same, literally a waking nightmare.
So glad it stopped for me.
only had it a few times, a few days after traumatic life events.
Had it when I was a kid, but I learned really quick how to deal with it. Funny how later when I would start practicing lucid dreaming I would try with all my might to induce it lol!
Same, as I got older, it just stopped happening. In college it happened practically ever day.
@RichSmithsonNo, it's scary because if the house was burning down around you, you would be incapable of getting up and leaving.
If you are having sleep paralysis episodes that’s usually a sign you have bad sleep patterns.
I had SP throughout college. I’d go to bed late around 1-2am and still try to make my 8am classes. Then I’d catch up on sleep in the libraries by napping on their cubicles and that’s usually where these SP episodes would happen to me. One time it was so bad that this chick saw me sleeping with my eyes open, thought I was having a seizure and had the librarian almost call the paramedic. They shook me awake.
The episodes went away when I started consistently going to bed early-ish (around 11pm) and getting up early-ish (6am).
Then I relapsed and started having episodes again 5 years later and got rid of them again by going to bed early.
10 years later so far so good. No more SP.
0:06 minecraft youtubers when making a discord server
Spent so long asking if they could, they never asked if they should.
Strapping a box to your face will never be fun. No matter how much it costs. They just need to invent the holodeck form startrek.
Dunno box on your face is usually a cause for celebration
@@WayStedYou Bruh lol
I get sleep paralysis a lot when I am stressed. Sounds strange, but the trick is wiggle your toes. Lucid dreaming (getting better at it) helps also.
Take magnesium
@@chiquita683Interesting, ill look into that. The toe wiggle trick pretty much solved it for me
The jailbreaking scene will be this product’s only chance at life if Apple doesn’t change. The risk of bricking a $3500 device though…
The Apple Vision Pro is an excellent promotion for the Meta Quest 3. "Best/worst device" sums it up too well if it has so much amazing hardware and software built in, but is all but useless by virtue of being an Apple product and tied to their environment.
Does more, costs less... Remember when that was Apple's slogan? Seems impossible to believe it used to be.
The vision pro and meta quest are not in the same market and category due to their price and capabilities
@@staringcorgi6475 I think that goes without saying. I believe even Apple themselves have said this is more for productivity than gaming and leisure, even if there are still games available for it.
But it's like what Mutahar said, if you're going to spend 3,500+ Freedom Bucks™ or 5,000+ Maple Money™ on a device that gives you a big ass display, why don't you buy a big ass display? If you're in a niche case where that wouldn't be practical in your workspace, then I concede, but I think most of us have enough deskspace.
This is just a classic example of Apple Tax. If it was anyone else with a bleeding-edge, professional-grade HMD with the exact same specs, it would likely be around $1,500, probably $1,800 at the most.
Only a fool would buy something from mark zuckerberg
@@ShanetheFreestyler can't be, the device has a 1600$ manufacture cost. no way anyone could have made it cheaper or better than Apple at this moment.
Those features like pinning virtual windows to real walls could be very useful in a library or a warehouse for a big company that can spare the money. But for the average user, as cool as it is to pinch a genshin impact window onto your kitchen, it's not exactly a killer feature to pay $3500 for. They are really missing the mark by targeting this as an everyday home product instead of focusing on business or industrial settings.
Sounds funny but my paralysis was gone after I cleaned my ac vents. I think it was the mold causing me to have weird paralyzing dreams.
Not so sure, what library or warehouse manager would go for a bunch vr headsets over just getting some big displays and mounting them to a wall?
The worst part is that this feature isn't going to be unique to the vision pro in the future. Its gonna come as a free update on the quest 3 lol
@@Coliflower185 maybe not those but in a lab or hospital I can definitely see it being useful.
Not everyone needs to see what’s on your wall.
I would love to have one displaying schematics while working with PCBs.
You can imagine analogous applications in medicine, plumbing, engineering etc
Majority of people won't use it for business either. So many people get tired of using a headset or get motion sickness.
It literally is the reason the AR helmets for the military is going wrong as well.
The Chad zuck timeline is surreal
it's the apple pippin 2.0. you can get a nice tv and the valve index for the same price
For a new product, I guess it is understandable that it doesn't have many apps to use yet in the app store, prolly because these apps are still in the midst of being developed. With that said, you are right that it creates a disadvantage to Apple because, they have all along restricted compatibility with other products. I think the hope of Apple, is that there will be app developers who are willing to bet on them and move towards swift and create app store products. But they fail to understand that, these app developers are also driven by monetary gains, the clear choice for them is to create their apps where there will be availability to a wider audience. Unless Apple suddenly starts sponsoring developers to develop exclusively for App store, they will eventually lose their market share that they are desperately trying to hold on to right now. sadd..
Apple products is like going to a fancy, EXPPENSIVE restaurant, where waiters spit in your face. And the food gives you diarrhea every time.
😭 I hate I had that diarrhoea at one time lol
When the heck did Mark Zuckerberg become Chris Pratt
with the price of the apple vision, you can get a windows gaming laptop, an index vr set and there you got a portable VR set.
Reactions coming in so fast, nobody will know that I'm enjoying this content
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Me too
Just an fyi on price… it’s actually in line with its competition. Especially is business/workplace users are the target. $1500 - $4000 is normal if their goal is to enter the AR space primarily. I think the magic leap 2 got a certification for some medical use a few years ago and sits around the $3500 range.
I've experienced sleep paralysis once. I hadn't fully fallen asleep but I realized I needed to plug my phone in so I just kinda woke up, but when I opened my eyes it was strange. I couldn't move more than maybe half a centimeter, started seeing shadowy figures and I had this just fucking horrible feeling that someone was coming for me. It took around 3 seconds to power through but I was terrified for those few seconds even though I knew it was in my head.
Yo why does Zuckerberg with a beard actually look decent
Beards do that to most men. Wish I could grow a proper one
Because now he's a real boy.
it looks like he got some sun, too, which is probably what’s helping the most. when somebody is so so pale and then they’re only photographed under fluorescent lights, they usually look a bit uncanny. here he’s got warmer colours and is in natural sunlight
The aliens had a recent update to their human cloaking software.
@@samm4158he needs to be careful tho too much sun and he will look like leather like lots of celebs do lmao
It’s the slow breathing, slow heartbeat, and the feeling of sheer panic, feeling like you are suffocating to death is the most brutal part of sleep paralysis for my horribly extreme form of it…
My sleep paralysis is so bad that unless I wake myself up 100% for at least 30minutes or so, I will instantly fall back into sleep paralysis if I don’t, plus sleeping on my back is a sure fire way to trigger my sleep paralysis as well…
I have to put all my effort into wiggling myself out of it, and unless I get up out of bed and stumble myself around my bedroom with my limbs partially still paralyzed, and unless I do manage to get out of bed and wake up 100% my sleep paralysis will keep happening as I fall asleep or wake up… It’s so bloody brutal! I feel your pain Muta… Get a sleep study done, as I’m actually right on the line of having narcolepsy, and there may be treatments available to reduce the frequency and how extreme your sleep paralysis is! Seriously it’s not worth suffering so much unnecessarily! I wish you the best, and hopefully you find an effective treatment for such a brutal medical condition!
At least they pushed Meta to upgrade the Quest 3 to work better... I'm grateful for those updates
Do you still need a Meta account for it to work?
Not that it factors in too much, but sleep paralysis can be gut/diet related too. It can be hernia related (hiatal etc) or a side effect of vagal nerve overstimulation during rest…the paralysis is kind of in the same group as vaso vagal syncope
i don't think is failure, they going to learn a lot from this Apple Vision Pro, more Apps, even better OS, and after a while you get them much cheaper or smaller, i think they made this for future AR only glasses, that look more like sunglasses.
Sleep paralysis is like buying an EA or Ubisoft game , to unlock movement you gotta pay more
It's like someone put it, this is the first iPhone iteration, so it's pretty barebones, it'll take a while to get to the point where other VR headsets are in terms of apps that are available on it as well as software
The difference is that the iPhone was well loved months after the launch of the first gen
@@Dave102693Not really. It only had one carrier, barely got reception anywhere in the country, and had no apps. The rose tinted glasses are strong with that one. People didn’t really like it until the 4 came out.
The iPhone didn't cost three and a half times as much as the competitors and there were very few devices that achieved what it brought up; this headset is pretentious garbage.
VR has been around since the 90s
@@osherothThis! Never been a huge iPhone fan but it was relatively financially accessible to most people buying cellphones at the time. The price of the headset is astronomical compared to other products in the VR/AR market.
I agree! VR helps me sleep too. A lot of talented Unity World Creator makes worlds on VRChat were i just lay down on Alone.
These headsets can't get better until we make a breakthrough in battery tech or power efficiency to run a modern PC + Screen on a the power of a watch battery and considering neither of those things are happening any time soon (It's been 30 odd years since the last major development in Battery tech, my hopes are not high), VR goggles are just gunna be novelty toys for rich tech bros. For now though, enjoy wearing the weight of 2-3 laptop batteries on your face for a device that only lasts a few hours at best.
Most heavy VR users already have charging cables and battery packs attached to their headsets while using. But I do agree with you.
Sleep paralysis. I get something like that. I didn't know that counted as sleep paralysis until you described it and showed that long explanation. It's not often, but if I fall asleep in the living room in the recliner and lights are still on and TV is going (lots of sensory stimuli), then I get this effect where I can't wake up. It's similar to a lucid dream, but I am fully aware of my surroundings (even visually). I feel half awake, if that makes sense. I'm usually trying to yell for someone to come wake me up, or I'm floating up toward the ceiling (which makes me wonder if my eyes are really open or if I'm actually "out of body" in a metaphysical way).
It's rather irritating that people are in the other room and can't hear me yelling and come shake me awake (obviously, I'm not really yelling). It never really panicked me, though. I just lay there until it wears off. If I'm in bed and it's dark and quiet, I don't get this effect. In my case, it seems to be related to low levels of melatonin (ex: sleeping in the middle of the day after a big meal) and a lot of external sensory stimuli around me.
Notably, this has only ever happened when someone else is in the house with me. I've been single living alone for the last 3 years, and it has not happened once while alone in the house (even when falling asleep in the chair with TV on). That may also be because I quit drinking 3 years ago after 20 years of alcoholism. Just contemplating correlations, as you said that music, etc. keeps you from getting this condition. Whereas such stimuli could cause it for me.
damn i was waiting for apple to drop the fleshlight accessory -_-
This seems to be the first time Marky Mark and the Zuckerbunch actually beat Apple in a decent competition.
it's very impressive hardware but it's a really niche market not that many people will pay the $3500 for something that can be done on cheaper but similar hardware.
Not right now. Actually that is a good price for such hardware. Not many will pay, thats why Apple did not produce that much. But there is just no competition right now.
@@stringsofdespair Even if they improve it or make another version, people are still not going to pay $3500 for a VR phone 😂
@@The_Real_Lord_FriezaYeah but at that point it wont cost that much. The earlier Macs were like 8-10k for the fully upgraded ones with color displays and printers and a mouse and keyboard. Now you can get one for 400$ on sale. It’s how it always goes with tech
@@stringsofdespair No the price is trash. The example is "you would buy a ferrari in a world with no gasoline?" NO. The hardware needs support, the passthrough is excelent but virtually useless, the eyetracking is stellar, but still worse than picking my phone up, the display is incredible but not the best display that amount of money can buy. It can do a lot of cool things that everyone can do better spending less, so the price is trash.
I have pretty chronic sleep paralysis and i have never gotten used to it. It scares the shit out of me every time like i feel I'm not going to pull out of it and I'll be trapped in this weird state forever. It happens to me mostly in early morning/middle of night after I've been asleep for a while. I can slightly open my eyes enough to see my surroundings a little which makes it even more terrifying. I strain so hard to move and wiggle my feet to shake myself out of it because I can feel myself slipping further into it. I absolutely despise when it happens and there is nothing i can do about it and I can't tell when it might happen.
Who would want a $3,500 dev kit for a product that’s future is up in the air?
15:20 the apple persona looks like the talking heads from fallout 1 and 2
Don’t say that because Plaincock124 will take even longer on his Bored smashing of the Vision Pro.
This thumbnail gave a jumpscare😂
I’m a decade-long apple user between iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, and a vintage patched Mac (the only missing link being a newer officially-supported Mac), but between the Apple Vision Pro launching at an eye-watering $3500, and the already-affordable $400 Meta Quest 2 falling to $300 *and then* to $200 a few weeks ago, I finally made the VR jump with a Quest 2. Just *can not* argue with that kind of value in choosing my first true VR headset (especially to gain access to wireless PCVR so I can *finally* experience Half-Life Alyx among countless other VR games)
Do you guys have multiple monitors? I don’t
3500 for some smart ski goggles is over price
Can we get a "the reality is" counter please
Sleeping in Minecraft is bad ass a fuck ngl.
but also sounds like a huge waste of energy being in a high-res raytraced VR with the eyes closed for 99% of the time. Though that could be remediable with eye tracking that turns off the screen and processing while the eyes are closed.
You can't sleep now, there are monsters nearby.
I've been having ASMR in my sleep paralysis. It's like someone's whispering ear to ear. Happens in so many wakes that I'm just "ok" with it.
Why would I need another desktop when I already have one: stationary or/and laptop (in that case stationary can be used as server for backups or for work offload to not struggle with restrictions of mobile device)?
Sleep paralysis can be terrifying. Once I went with my family to the beach off-season and we had a very experience at night. We were all so stressed that my mother suffered from sleep paralysis. It was so horrifying for her that my sister got scared and conditioned herself to suffer it. At a later date I tried to see if I could condition myself into suffering it, and I found myself paralyzed while watching my ceiling fan getting louder, faster, bigger, and closer each second, until it reached me and I fully woke up from the scare. So I had a nightmare even when I was fully aware of what was happening.
Its not that scary lol.
Feels kind of cool tbh
Holy shit
You can get use to it
i was thinking this a few days ago what happend to apple vision completely forgot about it
Vr will always be a toy until the headsets become vastly smaller and better battery to the point it doesn't need to charge every 2 hours.
I called coast to coast AM once after I had two sleep paralysis/shadow person experience two nights in a row
I don't understand why VR keeps getting pushed despite after so many years, it is still nothing but a novelty. I've only met 1 person who owns a VR headset
i used to get s. paralysis horribly when i used to drink heavily. I still get it now, but a lot less. Believe or not you can get better at breaking free in a quicker amount of time. What works good for me is focusing on trying to tuck my chin down into my upper chest, it sounds weird but it works.
Yeah we knew this 4 months ago when it was hitting youtube reviews.
We gettin out of the Apple Store with this one
Same I get sleep paralysis. It freaks me out when you actually get that sensation that somebody's lurking right next to you or something.
It's like my mind wants me to go back to sleep but I'm so anxious to wake up and scared to death that I'll be stuck like that.
This product is literally my dream work machine, in theory. I personally feel that $3,500, while steep, is worth it for me solely on the idea that I can instantly transport several external high-end monitors with me everywhere I go as an editor. It's mind boggling to me that they nerfed it so bad in that regard, for no apparent reason. I can understand the limited app availability, that's more on the developer's end, but the things that THEY themselves limited with no good reason has me floored.
I also deal with sleep paralysis. It's triggered by me sleeping on my stomach, i found out after many early years of trial and error. I trained my body to only fall asleep on my side or back and stay that way. He should see if it's a certain sleeping position that makes his body lock up like that.
The second it was announced, I hated it. They just decided to sell one more device that only works with the iPhone. I saw someone using it. it does not make you look badass, it makes you look like an idiot.
I think the ultimate in and out plug in play VR combination at this point, if it existed, would be a Quest 3 wirelessly connected to a Series X for more power. PSVR2 unfortunately has too many irritating issues.
The way I see the Vision Pro is similar to the first generation Oculus headsets, it's a proof of concept that is really demonstrating how AR can be pushed forward into the future, but for now is only suitable for early adopters and enthusiasts, and isn't really suitable for serious use. But when the second or third generation AR headsets come around, and all the issues have been ironed out and the price is lower, we'll see much greater adoption...
You guys have been saying this shit forever.
@@Needler13 Well, when I say "greater adoption" I just meant adoption of AR to a similar level as VR is currently adopted with devices the Meta Quest 2 and PSVR. I'm not saying that everyone's going to own them. I'm not one of these people who thinks that we're all going to be living in Ready Player One within a few years.
Basically: as a stepping stone it’s phenomenal (just imagine how the next and next products will be🔥🔥🔥), but as a product itself it’s useless
comfort while grooming? no, we need maximum discomfort