think you need to realize Ay’s lariat being light speed (or near light speed) actually makes speed scaling in Naruto kinda cracked because Naruto in a much MUCH weaker transformation can upright react and then speed blitzed that attack from centimeters across his face calculations on that speed feat makes naruto in just kcm easily dozens of times faster than light and then add all the amps and transformations he gets and you start to see just base light speed isnt impressive in the late war arc i do think the trio do great until sage of six paths characters show up
I don't think one piece is mftl just because they might be light speed pre timeskip doesn't mean shit because characters being a lot faster than the others does not mean they are thousands or hundreds of times the speed of light. Take jjk for example maki is like massively hypersonic yet just because sukuna blitzed her doesn't mean he is lighting speed or anywhere near that because lightning and hyper sonic is such a massive speed difference that you can't even compare the two.
@@KingKosuu Kizaru constantly saying he's hitting people at lightspeed, and when Sanji blatantly outspeeds light he says they need to rewrite the physics books. Also databook statements saying Kizaru moves at lightspeed, and blatant showing that when he goes ftl his light based attacks have a clear showing of when there is acceleration.
@@kakuzugoated873 you think he said that because hes fast?😂 stop Making up headcanon and learn to read. its obviously cuz he destroyed a lightbeam with a kick
@@vert6537 I already gave context to why it would refer to lightspeed, especially considering kizarus light already has been deflected and destroyed before. However, his light has never been blitzed. Use your brain.
Bro😭 the ap and speed downplay on the Naruto verse is so horrendous, calling the bijuu large mountain level when they have multi continental calc, thinking light speed is even impressive in Naruto when 5 kage summit Sasuke effortlessly blocks light speed slashes from random samurai, Sasuke easily reacting to darui, you can even argue each tail amp of the nine tails is a 10x multiplier, the downplay is so bad
it's pretty typical, naruto and one piece scalers never get along because one side doesn't create headcanon whilst the other does. not to mention the one piece speed scale was just something else.😭 the verse is island and ftl
Lets be honest, light speed in Naruto is very inconsistent, Sasuke dodged the lightning only for him to be blitzed by the 4th raikage which was stated to be NEARLY as fast as light, just to be blitzed by Naruto in the 4th war. As for the island level A.P you should know that the scaling on islands is insane
@@Its.Kagura_BachinTime it’s not inconsistent at all, v1 raikage using double lariat is what is stated to be rushing at speed like light, sasuke is able to easily react to v1, v2 raikage is the one that starts perception blitzing him, which is mostly because Sasuke is heavily fatigued and started was just getting used to his ms
@@jacquestessier100 Haku "can" move at lightspeed in their mirror dimension, but that doesn't imply their every move is lightspeed. Saying 1 tailed, Chunin Naruto is a light-timer is a take.
@jacquestessier100 if naruto with 1 cloak whose weaker than war arc kakashi is faster than haku Then tell me how the fuck haku blitzed war arc kakashi? Oh that's right it's because haku was literally fucking holding back like the story told us he was Haku being able to keep up with decently strong war arc characters proves haku held back massively against naruto
@@Shadow-fb2ec where was it ever stated 1 tailed naruto was weaker than kakashi. War arc kakashi literally said that the 1 tailed cloak amp naruto gave the shinobi alliance was more than 3 times his chakra it’s completely consistent and to claim otherwise is insane
wait this was crossverse, he only explained and overhyped the OP and Kosu if u like i can debunk your each and every claim u have made on ONe peice and show u why exactly the narutoverse wil totally demolish the entirity of OP verse...
Def under scaling the Naruto verse: Ten tails resting chakra compared to the earth, 100+ joining could blow up the moon in the last, while kurama could power up the entire army of thousands, while Naruto and Sasuke combined could kill the ten tails and eventually take down obito who is far above the Juubi, and the tailed beasts are pieces of the ten tails so they shouldn’t be much weaker than the nine tails, and Madara/ Hashirma could absolutely bully Kurama with being able to put him to sleep or control him
@@orion5565 damage yes but that's it. Kurama flat out admitted just the first form was stronger than him and it's heavily implied the 2nd form would've killed everyone had it's Biju bomb actually landed
@@Wendydeez76 naruto has many abilities. But is just stupid not to use them. Istg he has like 100 things up his sleeve but only spams shit like shadow clone, rasengan, sage mode etc.. He doesn't use anything else
Bro the koby feat sucks. He blew up Pizzaro's hand (which we see how big koby is compared to it ffs) he didn't take off a large chunk of the island. That feat is comparable to what zoro and luffy did to Pika on Dressrosa.
Can we accept that one piece might low-key be higher scaled than we think. Like we don't talk about how every "big island" is about the size of Australia. Luffy consistently breaks these islands and can easily scale to planet level and faster than light speed.
We literally have a statement from *Boruto* that confirms Kurama is capable of destroying a planet. The claim that Tsunade only has large mountain-level attack power doesn't make sense, especially when she is stronger than A (the Raikage), and Karin even stated that A's chakra is on par with a Bijuu. A was able to cut the Eight-Tails, meaning their attack power is easily at island level, considering even the weakest tailed beast is island-level. The Shinobi Alliance was also amped by the Will of Fire, meaning Conqueror's Haki (CoC) wouldn't work in this context. Hashirama's attack power is at multi-continental level just from defeating Kurama in *Shippuden*. When all the Bijuu combined their chakra to create a massive bomb, it was calculated to be multi-continental, and Kurama negated it at half power. This becomes even more ridiculous when we consider *The Last* movie, where 100 ninjas combined their chakra and could destroy the moon. I don't like that your main argument relies on them being faster, especially when you fail to fully analyze speed in *Naruto*. The Ten Tails was shown to have small planet-level amounts of chakra, and just by shaking, a Bijuu gets amped when they have a Jinchuriki. Night Guy destroyed half of Juubi Madara while he was on guard, and that kick was small planetary. The trio (Luffy, Zoro, Sanji) wouldn't be able to tank that kick. As for future sight, it only allows you to see the end result of an action. Luffy would see himself getting sucked in but wouldn’t be able to dodge it since the attack spawns right on top of him. You are comparing speed feats from a large distance and contrasting them with Naruto, who dodged light fang that seems to be just 24 inches in front of his face. Additionally, you stated that Sanji outran light in that panel, but there is no laser behind him, and Queen is clearly shooting at his sides. Lastly, the number of moons a planet has means nothing. For example, Pluto has more moons than Earth, yet it's tiny. Since you're not as experienced with power scaling, I suggest checking out the VS Battles Wiki. It’s a great resource where you can read up on detailed feats and power levels for different characters.
being amped by the will of fire isnt an actual amp it's just being determined which wouldnt stop conq haki from working on them. also scaling soley off a calc isn't reliant because its dependent on size which is dependent on how the surroundings are drawn which can often be inconsistent. You also can't really scale on them to the machine in The Last since it was specifically designed to blow up the moon. MAchines are much better at performing tasks more optimally and efficiently than humans are so it's more logical to assume the machine was much better at handling chakra to draw out the most power better than any human can. The ten tails was shown to have small plantary leves of chakra but thats the amount of chakra it has in total not the chakra it can output so it performing an action or having a jinchuriki wouldn't change that. That also means that madara's stats don't scale to it because for his ap and durability to scale to small planetary he would need to use all the chakra he has at once to reinforce his body which isn't possible because that would kill him which is shown what happens when a shinobi expends all their chakra. Future sight doesn't only allow you to see the end result it shows you the entirety of what will happen and it doesn't automatically spawn on top of someone it spawns where the user is looking which won't be an issue if luffy is too fast for them to percieve which brings us to speed. Even if you think sanji isn't faster than light (even though there would be absolutely no reason for queen to shoot right beside sanji) luffy has already been faster than light before wano and before g4. So comparing a so6p end of series naruto to a pre g4 luffy in speed already shows how much faster current luffy is than naruto I do agree with you on the moons take. I actually don't think those are moons at all depicted on the model and are other planets in the solar system. There are other ways of getting the size of the op earth to be really big by calculating the sizes of islands but like I said earlier relying soley on calculations isn't reliant because how big the surroundings are drawn change all the time so if you would like to say the op planet is regular sized thats more than fine
Most of the biggest feats in Naruto verse are just a talk no feats, that never happened. When did it mentioned that half the kura can destroy a planet and exactly how can he do it? The most possible way is spamming Biju bombs everywhere bcuz it has that much chakra resources. One piece surpassed Naruto in Wano and Naruto verse hax revolve around just chakra.
@@ong6261 Haki in simple terms is jus strong will power especially coc whoever have weak will pass out The alliance have the will of fire fighting 10 tails Madara and Obito If they can push threw after seeing the destructive power of 10 tails coc is definitely not knocking them out.
@@ong6261 it really doesn't matter the Shinobi are all pouring their chakra into the Canon meaning anyone that has more chakra than the combination of those ninjas would be Moon level.
@@ong6261 it really doesn't matter we know you can use most chakra in your body anyways it would still scale that him also I highlighted that it was just shaking I should have highlighted that 10 tails in that panel wasn't at full power as well And a jinchuriki will change it because we know the beast becomes stronger Madara has his base chakra and can use all of 10 chakra And u don't really understand how chakra really works U can use up all your chakra we've seen many characters do this the problem is using a jutsu when u run out.
and those hamdful would.have the combat speed and reaction speeds to deal with them. that doesnt count the countless hax they have, substitution jutsus, shadow clones, genjutsu and fuinjutsu (seals). that trio isnt doing anything to the entire naruto verse
@@SaadAbdullah-ym7kdnahh Luffy can become giant at will and use duraneg He can also see into the future and manifest things from his hair Blunt force attacks don’t work on him and he can grab elements so ninjutsu is useless This is in g5
Continental bare minimum for is crazy when dressrosa Luffy was clearly Continental at minimum. With all the growth Luffy had and how sanji and Zoro close to Luffy level with their own growth. It's low balling honestly
I do kinda get why like don't highball or put them where they scale because elephant gun is Continental and bajrang gun is just even more massive with Haki amps
Continental when? Half of dressrosa was destroyed by bird cage. Luffy just made a big punch at doffy, which compressed him. If this is the Don thing, shaking an ice sheet or any island doesn't make you that level it's erasing it that does.
The bias is CRAAAAZY. You talked about high speed interpretations of one piece and didn't even get into Naruto speed scaling other than saying that Killer B caps at light speed.... Which is insane when you have KCM1 Naruto with 76x lightspeed calcs against the raikage, then he gets kcm2, then he gets sage mode on top (10x amp). Or if you don't want to go that route... Kid Naruto dodged Haku ice mirrors, Darui, a joinin, has laser attacks, mifune is said to attack at the speed of light (sasuke blocked him casually at the five kage summit), itachis water bullets are also stated to be LS and pre time skip kakashi reacted to them... Like i can go on and on and on, naruto speed scaling is as solid as one piece scaling, more when you have anti feats in one piece like gazelle man being said to be impressive in terms of speed when he caps at 200km/ph or Kizaru being surprised sanji was faster than light (implying that surpassing light in the verse is impressive). Then in terms of AP you didn't justify why kurama isn't planetary, more when we can take a look at kaguya or boruto scaling that is clearly above planetary and kurama is still relevant at that scale of power. Plus saying that war arc Naruto character cap at mountain lvl is CRAZY when we have characters like madara destroying multiple mountain by UNSHEATHING HIS SWORD, or Naruto casually redirecting multiple bijuu bombs, or Naruto tanking the ten tails cataclysm in BASE (which has been calced to multi continental), or the ten tails being said to be worth a small planet in terms of chakra while missing its two strongest bijuu, or a 100 random shinobi being able to blow up the moon and kurama being able to give THOUSANDS OF THEM a 3X amp acording to kakashi... Same thing with guy, that man was bending space through sheer speed, one piece has no feats like that. And in terms of AP for one piece its also super sketchy, don Chinjao ice continent is never shown to be an actual continent, in one piece what is referred as a continent is super inconsistent, for example that Aokiji "freezing a continent" feat, is only connecting two islands through ice, islands that when the water is low are a walkable distance away from each other... clearly not a continent. And in terms of one piece planet being bigger than our own... it's not, one piece planet does NOT have more than one moon, in one piece the moon is actually important, and never have we seen more than one moon, the only evidence of more than one moon is that planetarium panel, that could easily be either be wrong (it is the library of historians), or be representing a solar system with the earth in the middle like how humans believed it was for thousands of years (again, historians). The other way of getting the one piece planet to those insane sizes are with the alabasta calc, which is CLEARLY A size inconsistency, which oda is known for (Or tell me what size is the sword enma? for example), and the last way to get the one piece planet to that size is through marcos comment about the world having an insane amount of islands, which means nothing because we don't know the size of said islands, and even more, we see some of them are absolutely small islands like little garden, dressrosa (you can see specific houses from a full view of the island, its tiny), drum island, egghead, thriller bark, zunisha (all of those in terms of real world islands would be considered insanely tiny). And Naruto in terms of AP is more or less comparable with one piece, until sage of six paths characters. Naruto and sasuke post hagoromo amps would unironically solo the verse neg diff, for crying out loud naruto was running the ones with kaguya for a couple of chapters! The same kaguya that was about to erase the space time of a place with at least a planet and a moon and possibly a star!! Not to mention that she wasn't teleporting, her ability just rewrites reality around her. Post sage of six paths naruto characters are so far above One piece characters it's not funny. (Not to mention SOSP naruto should scale to Naruto in the last decently, as there are no indications other than the fact he gained the other half of kurama to say he got that much stronger). In conclusion this video idea is really good, because the monster trio would be top tier in the war arc. But saying that they blitz and one shot does not only take all of the fun out of the conversation, but also is completely disingenuous and can only be argued if you give the benefit of the doubt to one verse and nerf the other.
Is he forgetting that fresh out the gate KCM naruto speed blitzed A’s lariat?😂 and how jonin Minato made A look like a child. I have to admit tho the Minato fight he has no hands so..💀
If we using verse equalization we know Haki can nutralise dd abilities so would we say that Haki is able to nutralize chakra based abilities like genjutsu ??
Verse equalization or Not Haki will be to broken to handle. These guys use haki to cut water light and air not just DF abilities. Easy way to understand how powerful haki is WB with the Power to destroy the world can't fight against Roger without Haki. Which means if you doesn't have haki you can't fight against a haki master.
Small problem with your comments on luffy. Luffy isn't weak to sword attacks. He's coated in armament haki and conqueror's haki when he fights. So just swinging a sharp object at him isn't going to do anything. Kaido can damage him with his wind attacks because he imbues haki into them.
“Sea water” not “water,” also that doesn’t really bother him unless he’s submerged into the sea. Luffy trained to resist the affects of sea water in Wano along with Kidd. Luffy wouldn’t need to even attack fodder because One Piece has one of the best crowd control attacks out there: conqueror’s haki; making so that those who’s not worth fighting drop (meaning all the soldiers whose fight the trio). That probably leaves only the Kage, Guy/Kakashi and obviously Naruto and Sasuke (maybe Sakura) then Obito and Madura (whatever edo tensei people around).
Yes, just water, oda confirmed this, and even in skypiea and wano, which dont have sea water, is still the case. Why do ppl not get that already. He can resist for all i care. The man is still getting weakened and immobilized.
@@faith4657 he literally uses WATER to defeat Crocodile in Alabasta calling himself “Water Luffy;” in the same arc Crocodile traps him and Smoker in a cage made of “Sea Prism Stone” and filled the room with “sea water.” Once again he built resistance to the effects of sea water in Wano, meaning he has to be submerged completely in the sea to be effected by the curse. I hopes that clears it up.
@Ignoreduser Him drinking water isn't the same as being submerged in the it the hell. Otherwise, every time he drinks, he will he weaken. Knee to belly height is all it takes. And were this so-called resistance cause not once have I ever heard of a DF user gaining resistance to their own weaknesses. At best, Fishman who ate DF can breathe. This has never been the case. Cause even half is arm in water can weaken him.
@@faith4657 you just literally contradicted yourself; it went from “just water” to “he can drink water.” Google exists, every One Piece fan knows it’s sea water. If you think it’s “just water” then okay, I’m not about to argue with you about it.
I generally don't think brouto scaling is that insane even with the otosuki clan like all natural elements work on them jigen got cooked by normal flames just boosted. Their hax like only like eida daemon (especially since we don't know how to beat it) and jigen power is really good. Jigen shrink is good but like still beatable especially just brawlers
"jigen got cooked by normal flames just boosted" he was still recovering from his fight again naruto and sasuke and his body falling appart + he got trick
bruh what are you smoking? boruto characters are massively faster than light, with defenses on, can tank attacks that can split small planetary objects like butter (naruto in "the last" casually deflecting a chakra beam from toneri that split the moon effortlessly) have hax that put potentially the entire globe or universe under an illusion. can create cataclysmic natrual events with a thought. can generate a planets worth of force when using some jutsu (rasengan uzihiko) and can negate any attack/reflect that same attack back on to the aggressor and even reflect "intent". can also see literally every possible future lol idk what youre smoking to think the boruto scaling isnt all that especially when compared to one piece
facts. a great way to see the difference in scale is to look at when the 10 tails first awakened and went on a rampage. the thing simply lifting up its hand was causing mountain range levels of destruction. compare that with the size of onigashima and the bajrang gun/kaidos final dragon form, and you can easily tell the 10 tails simply lifting up a limb would have destoryed onigashima. hashirama put that thing in a collar and told it to sit
@@blackboybebop7319First off, just because the ten tails destroyed a mountain range with a bijuu bomb doesn’t mean he could destroy onigashima, especially not by just raising an arm, since onigashima is comparable in size to the flower capital. The flower capital takes up roughly 10% of wano if you eyeball it on a map, wano of which has a diameter of about a senri (senri=1000 ri=3930km) as stated in the Oden flashback, which is roughly the size of Australia, meaning onigashima is around 10% the size of Australia. This also means that Luffy is capable of making his fist up to at least 10% the size of Australia when using his bajrang gun move, and the fact he was capable of easily destroying onigashima with that move, should put that feat well above the ten tails destroying a mountain range (not that it has anything to do with my point, but it is important to note when comparing both verses regardless, since these are both two high end feats in the verse prior to the otsutsuki’s appearing). Next off, saying that Hashirama "put a collar on the ten tails and told it to sit" is straight up blasphemy. His best showing against the ten tails was being able to shortly subdue it with the help of the other 3 hokage, the ten tails clearly scales above Hashirama so unless there is some sort of volume of Naruto where he does beat the ten tails of which I haven’t read, then you’re just speaking out of your ass.
@@blackboybebop7319To put it simply the ten tails can’t destroy onigashima by just raising his arm and Hashirama doesn’t beat 10 tails either (I don’t even understand how that would contribute to your point anyway even if it was true).
@@judex2559 are you fucking slow? or are you simply ignoring the tine when hashirama held down the 10 tails with the gate of the great god? thats what i was referencing when i said "put a collar" on the ten tails. youre the only one talking out of your ass
The thing is that Taka sasuke with just tje sharigan was capable to react and protect himself from Killer Bee lariat who were equal in speed from his brother Jay. One piece doesnt have quantifiable speed or strenght gab. Naruto does. Base kid Naruto~Base kid Sasuke CSM2 Sasuke~One Tail Naruto CSM2 is stated to be a 10× amp So one tail=10× Multiplier By this we can say that: 2 tails=20x 3 tails=30x 4 tails=40x 5 tails=50x 6 tails=60x 7 tails=70x 8 tails=80x Sage Mode should be between 5 and 6 tails, so maybe 55? Idk KCM2 is the total mastering of the Nine Tails power (Naruto can use Kurama avatar, so he's baisically using the Kyubi full power) this should give the form a 90x multiplier KCM1 is between 8 tails and KCM2, so maybe an 85x amp KCM2+Sage=90+55=145x 6poSm: This Mode whitout the Kyubi chakra gives an higher amp than KCM2+SM, but we can't know how by much power, so let's say that whitout the Kyubi cloak is as strong as Kcm2+SM. Here Naruto posseses the full nine tails(90×2)+a portion of the other bijuu's chakra. The problem is the same, we don't know how much is the chakra he borrows from the other tailed beasts. So the form should give at least: (90x2)+145=325x But let's say the portion that the other Bijuus gives is equal to Kurama's one tail: 325+80=405x multiplier Baryon Mode: Unfortunatley this is unquantificable, we don't know by how much Isshiki was stronger than Naruto, the only method i know to find a clear multiplier is the Nuclear Fusion argument, but i don't think that is realistic. Btw it should give BM Naruro about 1Bx multiplier. So, in conclusion: One tail=10x Sage Mode=55x Six tails=60x KCM1=85x KCM2=90x KCM2+SM=145x 6poSM= at least 325x Baryon Mode=Unknown, 1Bx using nuclear fusion argument
tbh its pretty goofy the meat riding Narutards give Kamui, like as if Luffy with Gear 5 can't rip through any Time-Space BS or use Conquerer's Haki to breakout of every Genjutsu [which CoC can already do to, Devil Fruits]. Like we already seen a stronger version of Kamui with Blueno back in Water's 7 n that Air World had no effect on Pre-Ts Luffy, let alone anyone from the SH Crew.
Gear 5 luffy CANNOT rip thru space time😭 and kamui is so much stronger than anything we have seen in one piece as it was doing sizable damage to kaguya who outscales anyone in op😂
"if Luffy with Gear 5 can't rip through any Time-Space BS" when did he ever do that? "use Conquerer's Haki to breakout of every Genjutsu" genjutsu last only few second and put in it you cant do anything + when did that happen?
13:10 bro paused one piece😭 Oh and Luffy can manifest stuff in g5 Like the paint bucket and goggles And can grab elements so all ninjutsu… And it’s because of his imagination, he’s not rubberizing them Otherwise other awakened fruits should be able to grab lightning WEVE NOT EVEN MENTIONED HE CAN MAKE MUSCLES AND EASILY TURN GIANT
Oh and you can’t scale Naruto’s ap to moon level cos of Toneri, sure even if he is there which he is in some attacks beating Toneri isn’t the reason why Toneri had busted ap because he’s from a race of gods, but he had fodder durability
For those who want to fight, watch Steinixos’ Luffy is stronger than Goku (He isn’t actually and that’s not what Steinixos is saying but you’ll understand when you watch)
One Piece world is bigger than the Naruto universe?which chapter does that state? But Kurama can't destroy the world what's your claim for that meanwhile Whiteboard can? definitely biased vid, Naruto becomes light speed later in the war? Meanwhile it's stated to be an anbu u need to be light speed At least when comparing 2 different universes know what your saying first & have read both series@@KingKosuu
Tbe 6 path characters and Tsunade should be higher but everything else is accurate. Glad to see a Naruto vs one piece video that doesn't downplay one piece.
Idk about Minato not being able to keep up bro. That’s silly. Start of post time luffy dodged light, yeah. He gets a lot faster throughout the series, sure. But jonin minato dodged the raikage who you already said was relative to light. Raikage during shippuden is stated to have gotten as fast as the yellow flash (jonin minato) but he still admits he’s only the fastest because minato is gone. So obviously hokage minato was faster than his younger jonin self because he was faster still faster than the raikage. Plus it’s should go without saying that hokage minato is faster than his jonin self anyway. Hokage minato with no arms has feats reacting to might Guy and madara. Minato has sage mode which gives him sensory, precognition, and specifically future sight. During the war he was kcm. For most of the war when he had kcm, he was mentally nerfed due to obito. Obito isn’t even his opponent here, the monster trio is, so he wouldn’t be mentally nerfed. He also has shadow clones and dealing techniques. It’s definitely not completely out of the discussion imo for that section of the video to potentially catch the monster trio off guard.
Yo isn't he called the yellow flash, implying he's still visible? Sanji is quite famous for perception blitzing characters who are mftl, still too big of a difference in ap even if Minato was fast enough to compete. Still good points tho
@@KingKosuu Also I obviously do acknowledge one piece has light speed scaling early on, but like you mentioned, Naruto does too. Both have early light speed statements like kuma air blasts, foxy beams, and enel lightning bolts based off that one sbs for one piece and haku mirrors, those water bullets from the itachi vs kakashi fight, etc. both sides have valid ones and debunks, and I think for the most part it isn’t as crazy of a disparity. Plus perfect sage mode users like Minato and especially Naruto have precognition. This is stated, but it’s also implied to be a form of future sight because the old ass sage toad refine this ability in his old ass age to the point of making prophecies of the future. Also sharingan users with three tomoe literally have future sight as shown in the manga during the final valley fight of part 1 Naruto. Then the databook statement hypes up the mangekyou sharingan’s precog even further. I don’t think future sight is that much of an issue. I also don’t personally see how the planetary whitebeard statement lends any more validity than the multiple planetary kurama statements. We don’t see base kurama destroy the planet, but it’s not like we see wb destroy the planet either lol. Also I think mha vs one piece could work well. Mha’s ap scaling does sit around where one piece’s does depending on the scaling you believe for both. As for speed, mha doesn’t have as early of light speed scaling (unless you seriously think mina wasn’t aiming dodging in the sports festival), but the upscales that characters like Deku would get starting from the light dodging feats that are in the story can definitely scale him to the level of fighting one piece characters depending on where you scale them both. This only really applies to top or god tiers of the mha verse though. Deku does also have battlefield sensory and precognition with danger sense, with the anime actually giving him a form of future sight when he uses it for the first time against gigantomachia. Just something to note if you wanna make a video on the subject
@@monke1419 this may be a bit unrelated, but when it comes to teleporting would van auger be relative to Minato in terms of teleporting his warp honestly curious about an interaction between him and Minato
in a few hours possibly ill write a rebuttal to all of these claims, not in a disrespectful manner but just to clear out some misconceptions and establish how big of a gap there is between even kid naruto and the one piece verse.
Brother…. You could have just made a post that says you love One Piece. You didn’t need to make a whole video to show us that. Saying stuff like, Zoro is too fast for Minato, Hashirama doesn’t have any stats over them, they’d be fine getting hit by Night Guy, the Bijuu as a group are large mountain level, High end One Piece scaling is higher than high end Naruto scaling, the planet is much bigger ect… also not even mentioning the fact that the big 3 are toddlers intellectually in comparison is clear bias. This only makes you look like you’ve never seen or read Naruto and messes up your credibility.
Yeah, you're definitely downplaying Naruto a good bit here. However, I do agree with most of the outcomes. I personally think the trio gets to Naruto and Sasuke, but they get cooked there. It is debatable whether, or not they can get past Guy, Minato, Kakashi and Lee (he was there too), but I do think they could at high difficulty.
You dont land genjutsu it doesn’t have any travel speed if you look at him you are then able to be put under genjutsu Same case with ameretesu luffy is so fast that he could perception blitz saskue especially not a rinnigan saskue they and im not even talking about Naruto who’s truth seeking orbs which can easily one shot any of them Naruto’s speed is equal to luffy considering haku was sated to be light speed and if that’s not enough itachi whos water bullet jutsu is stated light speed(databook) and Naruto could blitz itachi and the fact he could blitz the rikage who’s light speed and he fact that shikamaru dodged light beams in his novel or Naruto being able to blitz light attacks when he as dying and couldn’t use chakra(even tho that was homage Naruto that Naruto should be much weaker then Naruto couldn’t use chakra)
ill start feat by feat as listed in the video 1. Kuzan did not create a continent. Atleast it isn't literally continental in size; pre-ts strawhats were slow on foot and they crossed this sheet of ice in a single chapter. We're also never shown how large it is visually + It's never stated to stretch on to the ocean floor which would technically be a presumption, at best you can get this feat to island, but that might be a little too much in my opinion. Additionally, Kuzan failed to catch a submarine in time that was not going fast as visually proven. Obviously the distance it made in such a short period of time is proven not to be continental in size. 2. Sadly this feat holds the same principle. Nominal fallacy + We're never shown the size of the ice-sheet. This also isn't much of a feat as the gap made is visually no larger than 3m (10ft). Not to mention this Chinjao still had his pointed head. Old Chinjao didn't. 3. Skypiea isn't country level. I've seen multiple pixel scales and estimates, but once again this fails to account for multiple things. Really inconsistent paneling for scans. And, they use a form of pixel scaling that goes step by step with multiple scales of size. For example, Rock 1 > Rock 2 > Rock 3 sort of thing, this is how they typically measure it which is simply inaccurate to say the least. 4. I'm guessing the panel of Punk Hazard is used as evidence, you have to take into account this was over a span of 10 days of fighting. Thus it wouldn't upscale their AP no matter how you look at it, also kind of backs up my Kuzan points. 5. Thriller bark is indeed large but you tend to over-exaggerate statements regarding size, as does the manga. It being stated to be an island doesn't automatically apply it for island level because they can differ in size. It's based off of visual interpretation and consistency. The problem with your argument is that your scan alone contradicts what you said. You can see Koby's silhouette which is actually a good portion of the size of the hand, lol. 6. This ill be talking covering the island size claim about Luffy. Onigashima isn't large, simple as that. I can't provide any scans, but I can prove my point if you disagree. 7. "Country" literally means a nation with its own government occupying a particular territory. It doesn't have to mean country level in size. We also have visual shots of the Arena taking up a good portion of the island when it is not large at all. Highballed it's a city sized island. Individual clouds have also been shown to be larger than the island. Now, onto speed. 1. Kuma was holding back and it's narratively proven by the next arc. Kuma not only went against orders but quite literally perception blitzed the entire crew in Sabaody. Isn't consistent with the plot or later feats whatsoever. 2. Kizaru was mentally conflicted. Stated multiple times. Saturn also remarked that Kizaru was sluggish for his standards, since people like arguing he can move faster than light there's no reason he can't move slower than it, and this proves my point. He was nerfed, this also backs up him accelerating to light-speed, not above it. 3. (This is about Sanji out-running the beams) They don't have to be light-speed simply due to being beams, lol. They were never stated to be light-speed and the strawhat's travel speed is really slow, they couldn't catch up to Gazelle man who was moving at a 200km/h. Dura section. 1. Characters who out-scale him can surely damage him. It would be presumptuous to assume that this would work on characters who vastly out-scale in AP. I won't really go over hacks as they won't effect my premise much. As they are pretty low level hacks that won't grant them much of an advantage. I will discuss the durability negation argument though. Ryou being able to damage a tree doesn't mean much. Especially because this attack is still AP based, we also have Kaido tanking these, who has much less durability than the characters of discussion. Onto the Naruto scaling. 1. Yeah, I agree. The Shinobi Alliance is fodder. 2. There are actually two statements for this and you're disregarding that Kurama was under someone else's control and his primary objective wasn't to destroy the world. This goes against the reasoning of Obito using Kurama. It wasn't to destroy the world but more of a mental strain on Minato. The argument for overtime is already quite dismissed by the use of language within the databook statement. The word 'easily' was specifically used which would be emphasizing the opposite of overtime. Either way this is consistent with other feats. 3. AP =/= DC. Sakura can have a good amount of AP and not have the same DC. This is pretty basic knowledge regarding the two subjects and how they correlate, they don't have to be together unless it's regarding a statement specifically talking about DC. So this is a pretty baseless argument. 4. The Raikage's statement was going over the general use of the jutsu. The actual raw translation says light-speed. Not near. Since it's well established jutsus can be imbued with chakra to amp speed and AP, this wouldn't mean much. The jutsu description isn't specifically talking about the Raikage in particular, rather the overview. Meaning this can be dismissed via being the base speed. We also know there are multiple users of some of these jutsus descriptions, some with a faster use than others. Proving my point entirely. He also got perception blitzed by KCM Naruto. 5. Eh, I could really get into how much faster the Naruto verse is, but it's getting pretty late and I've spent quite a while writing this, so im not extending it by much. 6. Once again, same point. Hashirama out-scales the verse. But im going to keep this short, so remind me if you'd like me to go into depth. 7. Minato isn't faster than Gai in terms of combat speed. Most feats used against this are false and taken out of context. 8. What confuses me is the fact you went so into depth regarding One Piece, but not Naruto. You liken the argument down to they simply out-scale in speed and AP, except you never explain how or why. Nor do you show any real feats from the series, which they have multiple. 9. Well, future sight has been proven to not mean much if the perpetrator is significantly faster than the user. Which would be this case. 10. I really don't see the assumptions made on light-fang and other attacks simply being only light-speed. As I explained jutsus are stronger via casters, we know this as it's confirmed within the series as in visually confirmed. Once again the databook also states on a more broad view and not Madara in specific. The statement regarding its speed isn't "Madara's lightfang travels at light-speed." It's "Light-fang travels at light-speed." Many feats back up FTL consistency within Naruto aswell. 11. As someone who has alot of astronomy knowledge and considering majoring in astrophysics for college. More moons doesn't equal larger planet. We know this as pluto for example has more moons than us (4 more), yet it barely makes a mark on the USA in size. Mass is more important and having moons never necessarily means bigger planet. 12. The Enel statement is pretty hyperbolic. I don't see how people interpret this as a legitmate statement regarding his attack speed, but that's just my view. 13. I can get kid Naruto to MFTL via the databook statement, multipliers, and consistency feats. 14. Unlike Kurama's statements, many people don't understand that this isn't the same. World can also mean society. This is actually consistent with panel statements and the context of Whitebeard being a pirate. Even then there's no given or emphasized time-frame aswell unlike Kurama's. I have many more reasons to prove how unreliable and presumptuous this statement is, but my previous statements still apply here. Not going to waste time when im tired and don't even know if a response will be made. But yeah, these are my main points. Hope you understand. You seem pretty chill though.
@@marqusmedina5983 nevermind, both of us are wrong. it took them three chapters, but it's never stated exactly how long it took. most likely no more than a day due to travelling over the ice sheet on foot. you're wrong, never stated. quit glazing.
@@kamularity your correct about the DC typically being lower than AP for most characters. Unfortunately this doesn't apply to the ten tails which is where the scaling doesn't hold up
Sanji intersected light and kicked it therefore destroying it. kizaru was tweaking because sanji litereally defied physics 😂
He was wondering if he sniffed too much of that good stuff
think you need to realize Ay’s lariat being light speed (or near light speed) actually makes speed scaling in Naruto kinda cracked because Naruto in a much MUCH weaker transformation can upright react and then speed blitzed that attack from centimeters across his face
calculations on that speed feat makes naruto in just kcm easily dozens of times faster than light and then add all the amps and transformations he gets and you start to see just base light speed isnt impressive in the late war arc
i do think the trio do great until sage of six paths characters show up
Fax bro
Lowkey 5 admirals vs 5 Kage from the war arc would be a fire video
they lose to one
Just one of the admiral will solos the 5 kage
@@samar9614green bull when he has to not get one tapped by stone kage
@@pimpincodax8128 yeah green bull speed blitz no problem
@@samar9614 😹
I don't think one piece is mftl just because they might be light speed pre timeskip doesn't mean shit because characters being a lot faster than the others does not mean they are thousands or hundreds of times the speed of light. Take jjk for example maki is like massively hypersonic yet just because sukuna blitzed her doesn't mean he is lighting speed or anywhere near that because lightning and hyper sonic is such a massive speed difference that you can't even compare the two.
Pretty good on the speed difference
Bro you are literally saying the monster trio can beat the Naruto verse which is straight cap
Too bad One Piece ftl meta got contradicted by Kizaru statement yet again, Sanji and Kizaru the first ftl characters 🙏🏽
Erm… when?
@@KingKosuu Kizaru constantly saying he's hitting people at lightspeed, and when Sanji blatantly outspeeds light he says they need to rewrite the physics books. Also databook statements saying Kizaru moves at lightspeed, and blatant showing that when he goes ftl his light based attacks have a clear showing of when there is acceleration.
@@kakuzugoated873 you think he said that because hes fast?😂 stop Making up headcanon and learn to read. its obviously cuz he destroyed a lightbeam with a kick
@@vert6537 I already gave context to why it would refer to lightspeed, especially considering kizarus light already has been deflected and destroyed before. However, his light has never been blitzed. Use your brain.
Physics in one piece make no sense and just work to fit the plot so its hard to power scale it
Bro😭 the ap and speed downplay on the Naruto verse is so horrendous, calling the bijuu large mountain level when they have multi continental calc, thinking light speed is even impressive in Naruto when 5 kage summit Sasuke effortlessly blocks light speed slashes from random samurai, Sasuke easily reacting to darui, you can even argue each tail amp of the nine tails is a 10x multiplier, the downplay is so bad
it's pretty typical, naruto and one piece scalers never get along because one side doesn't create headcanon whilst the other does. not to mention the one piece speed scale was just something else.😭
the verse is island and ftl
Ironic😭 @@kamularity
Lets be honest, light speed in Naruto is very inconsistent, Sasuke dodged the lightning only for him to be blitzed by the 4th raikage which was stated to be NEARLY as fast as light, just to be blitzed by Naruto in the 4th war. As for the island level A.P you should know that the scaling on islands is insane
@@Its.Kagura_BachinTime it’s not inconsistent at all, v1 raikage using double lariat is what is stated to be rushing at speed like light, sasuke is able to easily react to v1, v2 raikage is the one that starts perception blitzing him, which is mostly because Sasuke is heavily fatigued and started was just getting used to his ms
@@speeddemon6365 and then Naruto barely dodges a light speed attack after blitzing Raikage at light speed in his new form. Very consistent indeed
One piece Size scaling is so inconsistent, but speed wise One piece definitely does outperform
??? haku was lightspeed in literally the first arc in naruto and narutos 1 tailed cloak is faster than her 💀
@@energymasterj7481 ehh not naruto has a lot of light speed scaling agenda pushers like yo ignore
@@jacquestessier100 Haku "can" move at lightspeed in their mirror dimension, but that doesn't imply their every move is lightspeed. Saying 1 tailed, Chunin Naruto is a light-timer is a take.
@jacquestessier100 if naruto with 1 cloak whose weaker than war arc kakashi is faster than haku
Then tell me how the fuck haku blitzed war arc kakashi?
Oh that's right it's because haku was literally fucking holding back like the story told us he was
Haku being able to keep up with decently strong war arc characters proves haku held back massively against naruto
@@Shadow-fb2ec where was it ever stated 1 tailed naruto was weaker than kakashi. War arc kakashi literally said that the 1 tailed cloak amp naruto gave the shinobi alliance was more than 3 times his chakra it’s completely consistent and to claim otherwise is insane
wait this was crossverse, he only explained and overhyped the OP and Kosu if u like i can debunk your each and every claim u have made on ONe peice and show u why exactly the narutoverse wil totally demolish the entirity of OP verse...
Def under scaling the Naruto verse:
Ten tails resting chakra compared to the earth, 100+ joining could blow up the moon in the last, while kurama could power up the entire army of thousands, while Naruto and Sasuke combined could kill the ten tails and eventually take down obito who is far above the Juubi, and the tailed beasts are pieces of the ten tails so they shouldn’t be much weaker than the nine tails, and Madara/ Hashirma could absolutely bully Kurama with being able to put him to sleep or control him
Nobody stood a chance against the ten tails before hashirama showed up that's made perfectly clear
@@marqusmedina5983 not really, a combined attack from Naruto and Sasuke was heavily implied to be able to damage or even kill the ten tails
@@orion5565 damage yes but that's it. Kurama flat out admitted just the first form was stronger than him and it's heavily implied the 2nd form would've killed everyone had it's Biju bomb actually landed
I’m my opinion Naruto just has to many ap abilities for one piece characters to compare
Koby solos😂
@@申月営無営月無営有申 ???
@@Wendydeez76 i think you mean op but you might mean ap
@@申月営無営月無営有申😅
@@Wendydeez76 naruto has many abilities. But is just stupid not to use them. Istg he has like 100 things up his sleeve but only spams shit like shadow clone, rasengan, sage mode etc.. He doesn't use anything else
Bro the koby feat sucks. He blew up Pizzaro's hand (which we see how big koby is compared to it ffs) he didn't take off a large chunk of the island. That feat is comparable to what zoro and luffy did to Pika on Dressrosa.
True.
Though that was also 2:18 low mountain to low island
@@millasboo thats too small to be low mountainlvl
Can we accept that one piece might low-key be higher scaled than we think. Like we don't talk about how every "big island" is about the size of Australia. Luffy consistently breaks these islands and can easily scale to planet level and faster than light speed.
We literally have a statement from *Boruto* that confirms Kurama is capable of destroying a planet. The claim that Tsunade only has large mountain-level attack power doesn't make sense, especially when she is stronger than A (the Raikage), and Karin even stated that A's chakra is on par with a Bijuu. A was able to cut the Eight-Tails, meaning their attack power is easily at island level, considering even the weakest tailed beast is island-level.
The Shinobi Alliance was also amped by the Will of Fire, meaning Conqueror's Haki (CoC) wouldn't work in this context.
Hashirama's attack power is at multi-continental level just from defeating Kurama in *Shippuden*. When all the Bijuu combined their chakra to create a massive bomb, it was calculated to be multi-continental, and Kurama negated it at half power. This becomes even more ridiculous when we consider *The Last* movie, where 100 ninjas combined their chakra and could destroy the moon.
I don't like that your main argument relies on them being faster, especially when you fail to fully analyze speed in *Naruto*. The Ten Tails was shown to have small planet-level amounts of chakra, and just by shaking, a Bijuu gets amped when they have a Jinchuriki. Night Guy destroyed half of Juubi Madara while he was on guard, and that kick was small planetary. The trio (Luffy, Zoro, Sanji) wouldn't be able to tank that kick.
As for future sight, it only allows you to see the end result of an action. Luffy would see himself getting sucked in but wouldn’t be able to dodge it since the attack spawns right on top of him.
You are comparing speed feats from a large distance and contrasting them with Naruto, who dodged light fang that seems to be just 24 inches in front of his face. Additionally, you stated that Sanji outran light in that panel, but there is no laser behind him, and Queen is clearly shooting at his sides.
Lastly, the number of moons a planet has means nothing. For example, Pluto has more moons than Earth, yet it's tiny.
Since you're not as experienced with power scaling, I suggest checking out the VS Battles Wiki. It’s a great resource where you can read up on detailed feats and power levels for different characters.
being amped by the will of fire isnt an actual amp it's just being determined which wouldnt stop conq haki from working on them. also scaling soley off a calc isn't reliant because its dependent on size which is dependent on how the surroundings are drawn which can often be inconsistent.
You also can't really scale on them to the machine in The Last since it was specifically designed to blow up the moon. MAchines are much better at performing tasks more optimally and efficiently than humans are so it's more logical to assume the machine was much better at handling chakra to draw out the most power better than any human can.
The ten tails was shown to have small plantary leves of chakra but thats the amount of chakra it has in total not the chakra it can output so it performing an action or having a jinchuriki wouldn't change that. That also means that madara's stats don't scale to it because for his ap and durability to scale to small planetary he would need to use all the chakra he has at once to reinforce his body which isn't possible because that would kill him which is shown what happens when a shinobi expends all their chakra.
Future sight doesn't only allow you to see the end result it shows you the entirety of what will happen and it doesn't automatically spawn on top of someone it spawns where the user is looking which won't be an issue if luffy is too fast for them to percieve which brings us to speed.
Even if you think sanji isn't faster than light (even though there would be absolutely no reason for queen to shoot right beside sanji) luffy has already been faster than light before wano and before g4. So comparing a so6p end of series naruto to a pre g4 luffy in speed already shows how much faster current luffy is than naruto
I do agree with you on the moons take. I actually don't think those are moons at all depicted on the model and are other planets in the solar system. There are other ways of getting the size of the op earth to be really big by calculating the sizes of islands but like I said earlier relying soley on calculations isn't reliant because how big the surroundings are drawn change all the time so if you would like to say the op planet is regular sized thats more than fine
Most of the biggest feats in Naruto verse are just a talk no feats, that never happened.
When did it mentioned that half the kura can destroy a planet and exactly how can he do it? The most possible way is spamming Biju bombs everywhere bcuz it has that much chakra resources.
One piece surpassed Naruto in Wano and Naruto verse hax revolve around just chakra.
@@ong6261
Haki in simple terms is jus strong will power especially coc whoever have weak will pass out
The alliance have the will of fire fighting 10 tails Madara and Obito
If they can push threw after seeing the destructive power of 10 tails coc is definitely not knocking them out.
@@ong6261 it really doesn't matter the Shinobi are all pouring their chakra into the Canon meaning anyone that has more chakra than the combination of those ninjas would be Moon level.
@@ong6261 it really doesn't matter we know you can use most chakra in your body anyways it would still scale that him also I highlighted that it was just shaking I should have highlighted that 10 tails in that panel wasn't at full power as well
And a jinchuriki will change it because we know the beast becomes stronger
Madara has his base chakra and can use all of 10 chakra
And u don't really understand how chakra really works
U can use up all your chakra we've seen many characters do this the problem is using a jutsu when u run out.
If One Piece is this strong now when Luffy hasn't even mastered Gear 5, not even Boruto era is gonna be able to handle it when the final war happens.
it can already handle it, the island level ftl verse doesn't get past one tailed naruto, lol😭
Dude the only people even able to scrap with that trio would be a hand full of people
and those hamdful would.have the combat speed and reaction speeds to deal with them. that doesnt count the countless hax they have, substitution jutsus, shadow clones, genjutsu and fuinjutsu (seals). that trio isnt doing anything to the entire naruto verse
Hashirama is negging the trio
@@SaadAbdullah-ym7kdnahh
Luffy can become giant at will and use duraneg
He can also see into the future and manifest things from his hair
Blunt force attacks don’t work on him and he can grab elements so ninjutsu is useless
This is in g5
This is the most naruto downplay ive seen in a min
Was actually contemplating something similar, the marines vs 4th great ninja war, but this video is cool too
Admirals vs them, mhmmmmm🤔
@@KingKosuu marines vs madara and obito etc. Basically just side swap lol
Continental bare minimum for is crazy when dressrosa Luffy was clearly Continental at minimum. With all the growth Luffy had and how sanji and Zoro close to Luffy level with their own growth. It's low balling honestly
I do kinda get why like don't highball or put them where they scale because elephant gun is Continental and bajrang gun is just even more massive with Haki amps
don chinjao did a contintential feat in the manga and he got one shotted by luffy
Yeah I know, but if you got to the end of the video you would’ve heard me talk on it
what make dressrosa Luffy continental.
Continental when? Half of dressrosa was destroyed by bird cage. Luffy just made a big punch at doffy, which compressed him. If this is the Don thing, shaking an ice sheet or any island doesn't make you that level it's erasing it that does.
The bias is CRAAAAZY. You talked about high speed interpretations of one piece and didn't even get into Naruto speed scaling other than saying that Killer B caps at light speed.... Which is insane when you have KCM1 Naruto with 76x lightspeed calcs against the raikage, then he gets kcm2, then he gets sage mode on top (10x amp). Or if you don't want to go that route... Kid Naruto dodged Haku ice mirrors, Darui, a joinin, has laser attacks, mifune is said to attack at the speed of light (sasuke blocked him casually at the five kage summit), itachis water bullets are also stated to be LS and pre time skip kakashi reacted to them... Like i can go on and on and on, naruto speed scaling is as solid as one piece scaling, more when you have anti feats in one piece like gazelle man being said to be impressive in terms of speed when he caps at 200km/ph or Kizaru being surprised sanji was faster than light (implying that surpassing light in the verse is impressive).
Then in terms of AP you didn't justify why kurama isn't planetary, more when we can take a look at kaguya or boruto scaling that is clearly above planetary and kurama is still relevant at that scale of power. Plus saying that war arc Naruto character cap at mountain lvl is CRAZY when we have characters like madara destroying multiple mountain by UNSHEATHING HIS SWORD, or Naruto casually redirecting multiple bijuu bombs, or Naruto tanking the ten tails cataclysm in BASE (which has been calced to multi continental), or the ten tails being said to be worth a small planet in terms of chakra while missing its two strongest bijuu, or a 100 random shinobi being able to blow up the moon and kurama being able to give THOUSANDS OF THEM a 3X amp acording to kakashi... Same thing with guy, that man was bending space through sheer speed, one piece has no feats like that. And in terms of AP for one piece its also super sketchy, don Chinjao ice continent is never shown to be an actual continent, in one piece what is referred as a continent is super inconsistent, for example that Aokiji "freezing a continent" feat, is only connecting two islands through ice, islands that when the water is low are a walkable distance away from each other... clearly not a continent.
And in terms of one piece planet being bigger than our own... it's not, one piece planet does NOT have more than one moon, in one piece the moon is actually important, and never have we seen more than one moon, the only evidence of more than one moon is that planetarium panel, that could easily be either be wrong (it is the library of historians), or be representing a solar system with the earth in the middle like how humans believed it was for thousands of years (again, historians). The other way of getting the one piece planet to those insane sizes are with the alabasta calc, which is CLEARLY A size inconsistency, which oda is known for (Or tell me what size is the sword enma? for example), and the last way to get the one piece planet to that size is through marcos comment about the world having an insane amount of islands, which means nothing because we don't know the size of said islands, and even more, we see some of them are absolutely small islands like little garden, dressrosa (you can see specific houses from a full view of the island, its tiny), drum island, egghead, thriller bark, zunisha (all of those in terms of real world islands would be considered insanely tiny). And Naruto in terms of AP is more or less comparable with one piece, until sage of six paths characters. Naruto and sasuke post hagoromo amps would unironically solo the verse neg diff, for crying out loud naruto was running the ones with kaguya for a couple of chapters! The same kaguya that was about to erase the space time of a place with at least a planet and a moon and possibly a star!! Not to mention that she wasn't teleporting, her ability just rewrites reality around her. Post sage of six paths naruto characters are so far above One piece characters it's not funny. (Not to mention SOSP naruto should scale to Naruto in the last decently, as there are no indications other than the fact he gained the other half of kurama to say he got that much stronger).
In conclusion this video idea is really good, because the monster trio would be top tier in the war arc. But saying that they blitz and one shot does not only take all of the fun out of the conversation, but also is completely disingenuous and can only be argued if you give the benefit of the doubt to one verse and nerf the other.
Is he forgetting that fresh out the gate KCM naruto speed blitzed A’s lariat?😂 and how jonin Minato made A look like a child. I have to admit tho the Minato fight he has no hands so..💀
High diff fight. Like this comment! 1/100
No diff naruto alone slams the comp verse
Wut @@eter9310
lol idk why I let myself get baited and watched this 😂 monster trio dies pretty easily I can’t believe I wasted my time.
Nah this left me discombobulated i think I'm unsubscribing so much bullshit in one video... I just can't
If we using verse equalization we know Haki can nutralise dd abilities so would we say that Haki is able to nutralize chakra based abilities like genjutsu ??
I mean yeah, if luffy used coc haki to knock someone out of genjustu then yeah that’d be fire
Haki would be able to neutralize Genjutsus and nothing else
@@joseaugustosoriano5094I can see using Haki to wake someone up but I don’t see it stopping a genjuysu or even waking you u
Verse equalization or Not Haki will be to broken to handle. These guys use haki to cut water light and air not just DF abilities.
Easy way to understand how powerful haki is WB with the Power to destroy the world can't fight against Roger without Haki. Which means if you doesn't have haki you can't fight against a haki master.
@@samar9614no it wouldn't
Small problem with your comments on luffy. Luffy isn't weak to sword attacks. He's coated in armament haki and conqueror's haki when he fights. So just swinging a sharp object at him isn't going to do anything. Kaido can damage him with his wind attacks because he imbues haki into them.
Great battle man really
Thanks 🫡
“Sea water” not “water,” also that doesn’t really bother him unless he’s submerged into the sea. Luffy trained to resist the affects of sea water in Wano along with Kidd.
Luffy wouldn’t need to even attack fodder because One Piece has one of the best crowd control attacks out there: conqueror’s haki; making so that those who’s not worth fighting drop (meaning all the soldiers whose fight the trio). That probably leaves only the Kage, Guy/Kakashi and obviously Naruto and Sasuke (maybe Sakura) then Obito and Madura (whatever edo tensei people around).
I know, but I like to make things a little more fair🙂↕️
Yes, just water, oda confirmed this, and even in skypiea and wano, which dont have sea water, is still the case. Why do ppl not get that already. He can resist for all i care. The man is still getting weakened and immobilized.
@@faith4657 he literally uses WATER to defeat Crocodile in Alabasta calling himself “Water Luffy;” in the same arc Crocodile traps him and Smoker in a cage made of “Sea Prism Stone” and filled the room with “sea water.” Once again he built resistance to the effects of sea water in Wano, meaning he has to be submerged completely in the sea to be effected by the curse. I hopes that clears it up.
@Ignoreduser Him drinking water isn't the same as being submerged in the it the hell. Otherwise, every time he drinks, he will he weaken. Knee to belly height is all it takes. And were this so-called resistance cause not once have I ever heard of a DF user gaining resistance to their own weaknesses. At best, Fishman who ate DF can breathe. This has never been the case. Cause even half is arm in water can weaken him.
@@faith4657 you just literally contradicted yourself; it went from “just water” to “he can drink water.” Google exists, every One Piece fan knows it’s sea water. If you think it’s “just water” then okay, I’m not about to argue with you about it.
I generally don't think brouto scaling is that insane even with the otosuki clan like all natural elements work on them jigen got cooked by normal flames just boosted. Their hax like only like eida daemon (especially since we don't know how to beat it) and jigen power is really good. Jigen shrink is good but like still beatable especially just brawlers
"jigen got cooked by normal flames just boosted" he was still recovering from his fight again naruto and sasuke and his body falling appart + he got trick
bruh what are you smoking? boruto characters are massively faster than light, with defenses on, can tank attacks that can split small planetary objects like butter (naruto in "the last" casually deflecting a chakra beam from toneri that split the moon effortlessly) have hax that put potentially the entire globe or universe under an illusion. can create cataclysmic natrual events with a thought. can generate a planets worth of force when using some jutsu (rasengan uzihiko) and can negate any attack/reflect that same attack back on to the aggressor and even reflect "intent". can also see literally every possible future lol idk what youre smoking to think the boruto scaling isnt all that especially when compared to one piece
Who else thinks verse equalization is stupid
If I didn’t it would be even more one-sided☠️☠️☠️
@@KingKosuu me when I commit to logical fallacies to clam down the Naruto fans
@@prestonjennings6277 me when I'm an idiot
These one piece islands are country sized.
By country, you mean Australia?
I would like to see the Weakling Trio go up against MHA final war.
Wtf they would get smoked
@@gyd1714the trio would smack them
I don't think this guy has ever watched one piece in his life. One admiral is enough to smoke the entire mha verse
@@Prrojiya17 yes ik but the weakling Trio looses to afo
Naruto solos
Good video bro. Also I got my popcorn ready for the comments💀
Imma come back tomorrow morning and see🙂↕️
@@KingKosuu Man threw a bomb and ran😭😭😭
Great video
Yeah bruv one piece characters can NOT hang with anybody stronger than kcm naruto 😭😭😭 Hashirama madara sasuke and others are washing them
Nah you are giving them too much war arc kakashi is enough
facts. a great way to see the difference in scale is to look at when the 10 tails first awakened and went on a rampage. the thing simply lifting up its hand was causing mountain range levels of destruction. compare that with the size of onigashima and the bajrang gun/kaidos final dragon form, and you can easily tell the 10 tails simply lifting up a limb would have destoryed onigashima. hashirama put that thing in a collar and told it to sit
@@blackboybebop7319First off, just because the ten tails destroyed a mountain range with a bijuu bomb doesn’t mean he could destroy onigashima, especially not by just raising an arm, since onigashima is comparable in size to the flower capital. The flower capital takes up roughly 10% of wano if you eyeball it on a map, wano of which has a diameter of about a senri (senri=1000 ri=3930km) as stated in the Oden flashback, which is roughly the size of Australia, meaning onigashima is around 10% the size of Australia. This also means that Luffy is capable of making his fist up to at least 10% the size of Australia when using his bajrang gun move, and the fact he was capable of easily destroying onigashima with that move, should put that feat well above the ten tails destroying a mountain range (not that it has anything to do with my point, but it is important to note when comparing both verses regardless, since these are both two high end feats in the verse prior to the otsutsuki’s appearing). Next off, saying that Hashirama "put a collar on the ten tails and told it to sit" is straight up blasphemy. His best showing against the ten tails was being able to shortly subdue it with the help of the other 3 hokage, the ten tails clearly scales above Hashirama so unless there is some sort of volume of Naruto where he does beat the ten tails of which I haven’t read, then you’re just speaking out of your ass.
@@blackboybebop7319To put it simply the ten tails can’t destroy onigashima by just raising his arm and Hashirama doesn’t beat 10 tails either (I don’t even understand how that would contribute to your point anyway even if it was true).
@@judex2559 are you fucking slow? or are you simply ignoring the tine when hashirama held down the 10 tails with the gate of the great god? thats what i was referencing when i said "put a collar" on the ten tails. youre the only one talking out of your ass
The thing is that Taka sasuke with just tje sharigan was capable to react and protect himself from Killer Bee lariat who were equal in speed from his brother Jay.
One piece doesnt have quantifiable speed or strenght gab.
Naruto does.
Base kid Naruto~Base kid Sasuke
CSM2 Sasuke~One Tail Naruto
CSM2 is stated to be a 10× amp
So one tail=10× Multiplier
By this we can say that:
2 tails=20x
3 tails=30x
4 tails=40x
5 tails=50x
6 tails=60x
7 tails=70x
8 tails=80x
Sage Mode should be between 5 and 6 tails, so maybe 55? Idk
KCM2 is the total mastering of the Nine Tails power (Naruto can use Kurama avatar, so he's baisically using the Kyubi full power) this should give the form a 90x multiplier
KCM1 is between 8 tails and KCM2, so maybe an 85x amp
KCM2+Sage=90+55=145x
6poSm:
This Mode whitout the Kyubi chakra gives an higher amp than KCM2+SM, but we can't know how by much power, so let's say that whitout the Kyubi cloak is as strong as Kcm2+SM.
Here Naruto posseses the full nine tails(90×2)+a portion of the other bijuu's chakra. The problem is the same, we don't know how much is the chakra he borrows from the other tailed beasts.
So the form should give at least: (90x2)+145=325x
But let's say the portion that the other Bijuus gives is equal to Kurama's one tail:
325+80=405x multiplier
Baryon Mode:
Unfortunatley this is unquantificable, we don't know by how much Isshiki was stronger than Naruto, the only method i know to find a clear multiplier is the Nuclear Fusion argument, but i don't think that is realistic. Btw it should give BM Naruro about 1Bx multiplier.
So, in conclusion:
One tail=10x
Sage Mode=55x
Six tails=60x
KCM1=85x
KCM2=90x
KCM2+SM=145x
6poSM= at least 325x
Baryon Mode=Unknown, 1Bx using nuclear fusion argument
One Piece Bias is crazy
lol I like one piece better but kakashi and guy are enough op fans are dumb af and I’m embarrassed for them.
@@ronlewis1554 nah, it's just your nostalgia talking. one piece characters are legit insane compared to narutoverse
Do you have any points to refute it tho😭😭
@@destroy7569no they are not
@@KingKosuubro a lot of your points was flat put wrong
Pretty good on the speed difference between them cause like it is big and some Naruto fans don't accept that
Maybe peak Deku and Shigaraki vs the 4NGW in the same style? 👀
cook king
they solo the verse😂. did you read boruto novels or something cuz luffy at the lowest is baryon mode naruto level
kcm1 naruto one tap the trio.
Thanks for doing this
No worries, I’m always here to talk on these type of matchups 🫡
Yup one piece scaling can get crazy
great video thank you!
tbh its pretty goofy the meat riding Narutards give Kamui, like as if Luffy with Gear 5 can't rip through any Time-Space BS
or use Conquerer's Haki to breakout of every Genjutsu [which CoC can already do to, Devil Fruits].
Like we already seen a stronger version of Kamui with Blueno back in Water's 7 n that Air World had no effect on Pre-Ts Luffy,
let alone anyone from the SH Crew.
LMFAOOOOOO
Gear 5 luffy CANNOT rip thru space time😭 and kamui is so much stronger than anything we have seen in one piece as it was doing sizable damage to kaguya who outscales anyone in op😂
@@xeno_melodyylol he’s tripping bro
yh you're drunk
"if Luffy with Gear 5 can't rip through any Time-Space BS" when did he ever do that?
"use Conquerer's Haki to breakout of every Genjutsu" genjutsu last only few second and put in it you cant do anything + when did that happen?
You do know an incomplete 10 tails has planetary ap pls read the manga of naruto.
The one piece glazing is real
Naruto verse is stronger
13:10 bro paused one piece😭
Oh and Luffy can manifest stuff in g5
Like the paint bucket and goggles
And can grab elements so all ninjutsu…
And it’s because of his imagination, he’s not rubberizing them
Otherwise other awakened fruits should be able to grab lightning
WEVE NOT EVEN MENTIONED HE CAN MAKE MUSCLES AND EASILY TURN GIANT
Oh and you can’t scale Naruto’s ap to moon level cos of Toneri, sure even if he is there which he is in some attacks beating Toneri isn’t the reason why
Toneri had busted ap because he’s from a race of gods, but he had fodder durability
For those who want to fight, watch Steinixos’ Luffy is stronger than Goku
(He isn’t actually and that’s not what Steinixos is saying but you’ll understand when you watch)
can't prove any of these but alright
@@kamularity I can
The Luffy vs Goku one isn’t to upscale Luffy, watch it
Understand what I typed
@@ashlol1839 not talking about that, just you're acting like luffy gets above moon in the first place, he doesn't gap island
Having ine piece characters be light multi times faster than light is brain dead to me
how?
Can't accept the truth??😂 post time skip luffy was easily able to dodge Kuma's light beams without any difficulties in his BASE form
I'll always say it
The Naruto verse is really carried by Naruto, Sasuke, Madara and the. Ootsutsuki
Everyone else is barely YC1 level
no
first hokage minato yh just no
lol the tailed beast and most of the akatsuki are all continental level
Yea I agree some of the hokages could be argued but most are fodder. Naruto, obito, sasuke, madara and the aliens are just leagues above their verse.
The high tiers get to country level
Idk why I thought this vid wouldn’t be biased
Lol
Bro is biased in sense of the word😂
You got any points to refute it? And points I don’t bring up at the end when it comes to Naruto upscaling
One Piece world is bigger than the Naruto universe?which chapter does that state? But Kurama can't destroy the world what's your claim for that meanwhile Whiteboard can? definitely biased vid, Naruto becomes light speed later in the war? Meanwhile it's stated to be an anbu u need to be light speed
At least when comparing 2 different universes know what your saying first & have read both series@@KingKosuu
Tbe 6 path characters and Tsunade should be higher but everything else is accurate.
Glad to see a Naruto vs one piece video that doesn't downplay one piece.
As always op fandom being delusional
One piece characters aren’t as fast as your saying bruv. Ap scaling for thr monster trio was aight tho
The monster trio honestly scale to the sannin tier with jiraiya tsunade and orochimaru. Country busters with FTL speed.
Cap
Idk about Minato not being able to keep up bro. That’s silly. Start of post time luffy dodged light, yeah. He gets a lot faster throughout the series, sure. But jonin minato dodged the raikage who you already said was relative to light. Raikage during shippuden is stated to have gotten as fast as the yellow flash (jonin minato) but he still admits he’s only the fastest because minato is gone. So obviously hokage minato was faster than his younger jonin self because he was faster still faster than the raikage. Plus it’s should go without saying that hokage minato is faster than his jonin self anyway. Hokage minato with no arms has feats reacting to might Guy and madara. Minato has sage mode which gives him sensory, precognition, and specifically future sight. During the war he was kcm. For most of the war when he had kcm, he was mentally nerfed due to obito. Obito isn’t even his opponent here, the monster trio is, so he wouldn’t be mentally nerfed. He also has shadow clones and dealing techniques. It’s definitely not completely out of the discussion imo for that section of the video to potentially catch the monster trio off guard.
Yeah I do entertain it, but then we have to discuss Luffy’s future sight and Luffy’s future sight makes it hella hard for them to do anything
Yo isn't he called the yellow flash, implying he's still visible?
Sanji is quite famous for perception blitzing characters who are mftl, still too big of a difference in ap even if Minato was fast enough to compete.
Still good points tho
@@KingKosuu Also I obviously do acknowledge one piece has light speed scaling early on, but like you mentioned, Naruto does too. Both have early light speed statements like kuma air blasts, foxy beams, and enel lightning bolts based off that one sbs for one piece and haku mirrors, those water bullets from the itachi vs kakashi fight, etc. both sides have valid ones and debunks, and I think for the most part it isn’t as crazy of a disparity.
Plus perfect sage mode users like Minato and especially Naruto have precognition. This is stated, but it’s also implied to be a form of future sight because the old ass sage toad refine this ability in his old ass age to the point of making prophecies of the future. Also sharingan users with three tomoe literally have future sight as shown in the manga during the final valley fight of part 1 Naruto. Then the databook statement hypes up the mangekyou sharingan’s precog even further. I don’t think future sight is that much of an issue. I also don’t personally see how the planetary whitebeard statement lends any more validity than the multiple planetary kurama statements. We don’t see base kurama destroy the planet, but it’s not like we see wb destroy the planet either lol.
Also I think mha vs one piece could work well. Mha’s ap scaling does sit around where one piece’s does depending on the scaling you believe for both. As for speed, mha doesn’t have as early of light speed scaling (unless you seriously think mina wasn’t aiming dodging in the sports festival), but the upscales that characters like Deku would get starting from the light dodging feats that are in the story can definitely scale him to the level of fighting one piece characters depending on where you scale them both. This only really applies to top or god tiers of the mha verse though. Deku does also have battlefield sensory and precognition with danger sense, with the anime actually giving him a form of future sight when he uses it for the first time against gigantomachia. Just something to note if you wanna make a video on the subject
@@Sw44nK he teleports. def not visible
@@monke1419 this may be a bit unrelated, but when it comes to teleporting would van auger be relative to Minato in terms of teleporting his warp honestly curious about an interaction between him and Minato
in a few hours possibly ill write a rebuttal to all of these claims, not in a disrespectful manner but just to clear out some misconceptions and establish how big of a gap there is between even kid naruto and the one piece verse.
Sure
Learn to scale & stop being biased
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im gonna assume this is satire
Man for the first 8 minutes i rly thought you were gonna try to say monster trio could basically solo naruto
Thank god for the clarification 😂
i dont get why yall gotta blatantly downplay Naruto speed feats in these types of videos though
Brother…. You could have just made a post that says you love One Piece. You didn’t need to make a whole video to show us that.
Saying stuff like, Zoro is too fast for Minato, Hashirama doesn’t have any stats over them, they’d be fine getting hit by Night Guy, the Bijuu as a group are large mountain level, High end One Piece scaling is higher than high end Naruto scaling, the planet is much bigger ect… also not even mentioning the fact that the big 3 are toddlers intellectually in comparison is clear bias. This only makes you look like you’ve never seen or read Naruto and messes up your credibility.
Brother.. I know you love Naruto. You could have just said that instead of making two whole paragraphs
@@Prrojiya17 oh I see you’re going with the old “no u” tactic, nice. I’m sure that’s very successful for you on the playground
Yeah, you're definitely downplaying Naruto a good bit here. However, I do agree with most of the outcomes. I personally think the trio gets to Naruto and Sasuke, but they get cooked there. It is debatable whether, or not they can get past Guy, Minato, Kakashi and Lee (he was there too), but I do think they could at high difficulty.
You dont land genjutsu it doesn’t have any travel speed if you look at him you are then able to be put under genjutsu
Same case with ameretesu luffy is so fast that he could perception blitz saskue especially not a rinnigan saskue they and im not even talking about Naruto who’s truth seeking orbs which can easily one shot any of them
Naruto’s speed is equal to luffy considering haku was sated to be light speed and if that’s not enough itachi whos water bullet jutsu is stated light speed(databook) and Naruto could blitz itachi and the fact he could blitz the rikage who’s light speed and he fact that shikamaru dodged light beams in his novel or Naruto being able to blitz light attacks when he as dying and couldn’t use chakra(even tho that was homage Naruto that Naruto should be much weaker then Naruto couldn’t use chakra)
obito solos monster trio
ill start feat by feat as listed in the video
1. Kuzan did not create a continent. Atleast it isn't literally continental in size; pre-ts strawhats were slow on foot and they crossed this sheet of ice in a single chapter. We're also never shown how large it is visually + It's never stated to stretch on to the ocean floor which would technically be a presumption, at best you can get this feat to island, but that might be a little too much in my opinion.
Additionally, Kuzan failed to catch a submarine in time that was not going fast as visually proven. Obviously the distance it made in such a short period of time is proven not to be continental in size.
2. Sadly this feat holds the same principle. Nominal fallacy + We're never shown the size of the ice-sheet. This also isn't much of a feat as the gap made is visually no larger than 3m (10ft).
Not to mention this Chinjao still had his pointed head. Old Chinjao didn't.
3. Skypiea isn't country level. I've seen multiple pixel scales and estimates, but once again this fails to account for multiple things.
Really inconsistent paneling for scans.
And, they use a form of pixel scaling that goes step by step with multiple scales of size. For example, Rock 1 > Rock 2 > Rock 3 sort of thing, this is how they typically measure it which is simply inaccurate to say the least.
4. I'm guessing the panel of Punk Hazard is used as evidence, you have to take into account this was over a span of 10 days of fighting. Thus it wouldn't upscale their AP no matter how you look at it, also kind of backs up my Kuzan points.
5. Thriller bark is indeed large but you tend to over-exaggerate statements regarding size, as does the manga. It being stated to be an island doesn't automatically apply it for island level because they can differ in size. It's based off of visual interpretation and consistency. The problem with your argument is that your scan alone contradicts what you said. You can see Koby's silhouette which is actually a good portion of the size of the hand, lol.
6. This ill be talking covering the island size claim about Luffy. Onigashima isn't large, simple as that. I can't provide any scans, but I can prove my point if you disagree.
7. "Country" literally means a nation with its own government occupying a particular territory. It doesn't have to mean country level in size. We also have visual shots of the Arena taking up a good portion of the island when it is not large at all. Highballed it's a city sized island. Individual clouds have also been shown to be larger than the island.
Now, onto speed.
1. Kuma was holding back and it's narratively proven by the next arc. Kuma not only went against orders but quite literally perception blitzed the entire crew in Sabaody. Isn't consistent with the plot or later feats whatsoever.
2. Kizaru was mentally conflicted. Stated multiple times. Saturn also remarked that Kizaru was sluggish for his standards, since people like arguing he can move faster than light there's no reason he can't move slower than it, and this proves my point. He was nerfed, this also backs up him accelerating to light-speed, not above it.
3. (This is about Sanji out-running the beams)
They don't have to be light-speed simply due to being beams, lol. They were never stated to be light-speed and the strawhat's travel speed is really slow, they couldn't catch up to Gazelle man who was moving at a 200km/h.
Dura section.
1. Characters who out-scale him can surely damage him. It would be presumptuous to assume that this would work on characters who vastly out-scale in AP.
I won't really go over hacks as they won't effect my premise much. As they are pretty low level hacks that won't grant them much of an advantage.
I will discuss the durability negation argument though.
Ryou being able to damage a tree doesn't mean much. Especially because this attack is still AP based, we also have Kaido tanking these, who has much less durability than the characters of discussion.
Onto the Naruto scaling.
1. Yeah, I agree. The Shinobi Alliance is fodder.
2. There are actually two statements for this and you're disregarding that Kurama was under someone else's control and his primary objective wasn't to destroy the world.
This goes against the reasoning of Obito using Kurama. It wasn't to destroy the world but more of a mental strain on Minato.
The argument for overtime is already quite dismissed by the use of language within the databook statement. The word 'easily' was specifically used which would be emphasizing the opposite of overtime. Either way this is consistent with other feats.
3. AP =/= DC.
Sakura can have a good amount of AP and not have the same DC. This is pretty basic knowledge regarding the two subjects and how they correlate, they don't have to be together unless it's regarding a statement specifically talking about DC. So this is a pretty baseless argument.
4. The Raikage's statement was going over the general use of the jutsu. The actual raw translation says light-speed. Not near.
Since it's well established jutsus can be imbued with chakra to amp speed and AP, this wouldn't mean much. The jutsu description isn't specifically talking about the Raikage in particular, rather the overview. Meaning this can be dismissed via being the base speed. We also know there are multiple users of some of these jutsus descriptions, some with a faster use than others. Proving my point entirely. He also got perception blitzed by KCM Naruto.
5. Eh, I could really get into how much faster the Naruto verse is, but it's getting pretty late and I've spent quite a while writing this, so im not extending it by much.
6. Once again, same point. Hashirama out-scales the verse. But im going to keep this short, so remind me if you'd like me to go into depth.
7. Minato isn't faster than Gai in terms of combat speed. Most feats used against this are false and taken out of context.
8. What confuses me is the fact you went so into depth regarding One Piece, but not Naruto. You liken the argument down to they simply out-scale in speed and AP, except you never explain how or why. Nor do you show any real feats from the series, which they have multiple.
9. Well, future sight has been proven to not mean much if the perpetrator is significantly faster than the user. Which would be this case.
10. I really don't see the assumptions made on light-fang and other attacks simply being only light-speed. As I explained jutsus are stronger via casters, we know this as it's confirmed within the series as in visually confirmed. Once again the databook also states on a more broad view and not Madara in specific. The statement regarding its speed isn't "Madara's lightfang travels at light-speed." It's "Light-fang travels at light-speed." Many feats back up FTL consistency within Naruto aswell.
11. As someone who has alot of astronomy knowledge and considering majoring in astrophysics for college. More moons doesn't equal larger planet. We know this as pluto for example has more moons than us (4 more), yet it barely makes a mark on the USA in size. Mass is more important and having moons never necessarily means bigger planet.
12. The Enel statement is pretty hyperbolic. I don't see how people interpret this as a legitmate statement regarding his attack speed, but that's just my view.
13. I can get kid Naruto to MFTL via the databook statement, multipliers, and consistency feats.
14. Unlike Kurama's statements, many people don't understand that this isn't the same.
World can also mean society. This is actually consistent with panel statements and the context of Whitebeard being a pirate. Even then there's no given or emphasized time-frame aswell unlike Kurama's. I have many more reasons to prove how unreliable and presumptuous this statement is, but my previous statements still apply here. Not going to waste time when im tired and don't even know if a response will be made.
But yeah, these are my main points. Hope you understand. You seem pretty chill though.
- カムラリティ。
- 雷影のスピードは雷属性の術に基づいており、フォックスチャクラモードのナルトはそれを克服することができました。
- ミナトの術は速度に基づくものではなく、クナイに配置したシンボルやクナイに配置したシンボルのように、配置したシンボルを介して、そのシンボルを配置した方向に瞬時に移動する瞬間移動のようなものです他の人たち。
- 読むときに、日本語を英語に、英語を日本語に次々と退行的に変換して翻訳者をリセットしましたか？
- NARUTO -ナルト- の世界の速度は、雷と同等、さらには光と同等、おそらくそれを超えています。
- しかし、それは文字通り世界中を旅できることを意味するため、光の速度を超えることはありません。
- 柱間は木属性の術と仙人モードを持っており、彼の最大のテクニックはおそらく千である千の真の手です。
- マダラのテクニックは、圧縮された雷の要素とセンポのエネルギーを組み合わせたもので、チャクラの5つの性質から構成される真実の探求のボールにダメージを与えることができます。
- 子供の頃のナルトは、尾のマントを着ていてもその速度に達することができません。私はすでにナルトの漫画とアニメを見ました。
- 一貫性のある偉業を示したテストは双曲線的ですが、日本のデータブックを読んだとき、翻訳者をリセットして言語を 2 回切り替えましたか?
- また、ナルトに関して言えば、漫画とアニメはデータブックに示されている内容と矛盾しており、また、あなたのような人々は、比喩的なものであることに気づかずに、文字通りの意味で彼らの言うことを理解しています。
- 世界と社会は異なるものであり、同じことを意味するわけではありません。社会とは、特定の地域または地理的領域で一緒に暮らし、働く人々のグループを指しますが、世界はすべての社会を含む地球全体を指します。そしてそこに存在する文化。つまり、社会は世界の一部ですが、世界はすべての社会を含むより広範で包括的な用語です。
-私たちを最も混乱させているのは、あなたがワンピースのほぼすべてのことについて疑問を抱いているのに、より深く掘り下げるとナルトのいくつかのことを疑問に思わないという事実です。
- NARUTOの力に関するデータブックでは、日本語から英語に翻訳するときに翻訳者をリセットする人はいません（翻訳者を使用する場合は2つの言語を交換する必要があります）。
- ワンピースがあまり偉業を見せていない理由は、ワンピースがナルト、ブリーチ、ドラゴンボールのような多くのアクション、戦い、または多くの力で構成されるアニメ/漫画ではないためです。
- あなたのような人が彼を最弱と呼ぶのは、作中で示される偉業が非常に少なく、無関係で一貫性がないためです。
- ワンピースは冒険とコメディのみに基づいたアニメ/マンガであり、アクションはほとんどありません。
- 海の凍結が到達した距離は不明で、別の島に到達する可能性があると書かれていますが、それは見えないことが示されています（おそらく非常に遠いですが、それほど遠くない）。
- クザンが凍らせた海は溶けるまでに1週間かかります。
- クザンは凍結できる深さに制限があったため、より深く凍結することはできませんでしたが、それはそれがより低いレベルであることを意味しません。
- ドン・チンジャオは、宝がある特定の深さに到達するまでその氷の層を開けることができました。亀裂の距離は非常に長く、霧が視界を妨げていたため漫画では示されていませんでした。
- スカイピアはあなたが思っているほど小さくはありません。それはほとんど国に匹敵するほどの巨大な島です。私はその巨大な木々のせいでこれを言っているのではありません。
- どんなに大きくても島は島ですが、非常に小さい場合は難破船です。
- 島が国と同じくらいの大きさであれば、グリーンランドのように国と呼ぶことができます。
- ドレスローザのコロシアムは大きかったですが、島の大部分を占めるほどではありませんでした。
- ルフィやゾロは、カイドウの兵士たちと戦うのに忙しく、ガゼル男を追いかける時間がなかったため、ガゼル男に追いつくことができませんでした。
- 武装色の覇気は、ユーザーが目に見えない鎧を身に着けて攻撃を強力にすることができ、ユーザーの意志に応じて可視化することもできます（ユーザーのレベルに応じて黒または色になることもできます）。
- 覇王色の覇気は、敵をノックアウトするまで意志を曲げることができる最も珍しい覇気であり、強力な攻撃にも使用できます。
- 覇気（武装色と覇王色）は、すべてのDFの力とその効果を無効化またはブロックすることもできます（ロッジを含むDFの無形の属性を攻撃したり、触れたり、掴んだりすることができます）。
- すべての DF には、他のマンガ/アニメのようなシステムやエネルギー源がありません。
- すべてのDFがどのように作成されたか、それらがどのような種類のエネルギーで作られているか、そして覇気がどのようにしてそれらの力を無効化またはブロックできるかは不明です。
- DF はそれぞれ、その属性や物質に応じて独自のエネルギー システムを持っています。
- 覇気は単純な一般的なパワーアップではなく、レベルが非常に低いわけでもありません。
- 覇気は非常に神秘的な力であり、その本当の能力を誰もが決して知ることができないため、過小評価され無視されています。
- 涼と呼ばれる覇気は、使用者の制御レベルに応じて、外側からの硬さに関係なく、内側からあらゆるものにダメージを与えることができます。
- 見聞色の覇気は、ユーザーが相手を予見し、5〜10秒先の未来を見せることを可能にします。
- スケールにこだわるほど、ワンピースの力の秘密も知らないのね、おじいさん。
- あなたはワンピースの不思議な力についてまったく無知です。
- あなたはキーの知性の罠にはまり、それを利用してしまいました。
No they didn't it's explicitly stated to take 3 DAYS to cross
@@marqusmedina5983 nevermind, both of us are wrong. it took them three chapters, but it's never stated exactly how long it took. most likely no more than a day due to travelling over the ice sheet on foot.
you're wrong, never stated. quit glazing.
@@kamularity literally stated on panel it'd take 3 days to cross. It just took 1 for them to leave our line of site
@@kamularity your correct about the DC typically being lower than AP for most characters. Unfortunately this doesn't apply to the ten tails which is where the scaling doesn't hold up
Naruto characters where dodging light speed attacks from part one Naruto
Did you get to the end of the video by chance?
11:59 Ayo what?
Fr what 😂😭