Reverb is between pre- and poweramp sections of the amp. When you crank classic gain, power amp start to distort as well, which is by its nature is strong compression of the signal, so reverb gets compressed as well. It is totally normal, it is not fault of any kind! It is still better than running reverb in front of the amp. The only way to get over it is to apply reverb later in recording. This is valid for other amps with reverb as well.
John, speaking as a former engineer in a big old school recording studio, mic placement on a cab is much like where you pick along the length of the string: it’s not so much a “do this not that” situation as it is one of flexibility. Put it wherever it sounds how you like 👍
I love the Marshall 1 watt amps. I went to a PRS clinic that Bernie Marsden was doing several years back and he played the whole night through a miked up Marshall 1 watt re-issue of a JTM and he sounded fantastic, as does this one of yours.
What a nice video, you have really developed your skills as a presenter John, this video gives us exactly what most 'mature' guitar players would want from such an amp-I used to own a 5 watt Bugera little amp and that was kind of similar to this Marshall in sound. Cheers
NIce review! I have the 40W version, and it’s a great amp. Reverb not usable on mine either. For pedal reviews, I have noticed there is a large difference in how pedals sound based upon which amp you are playing them through. Biggest difference is between the Marshall and a Fender. If you ever get the valve amp itch again, I would highly recommend a Fender Princeton for lower volume applications.
I don’t know if it’s because TH-cam have compressed the hell out of this sound or if it’s my device? But, honestly, the reverb didn’t sound like a deal breaker. It maybe a little disappointing but there’s no such thing as the ‘perfect amp,’ especially in the home practice genre. I’ve been looking at a Blackstar HT1R but they always come across as muddy on the demo vids. The Marshall may just be what I’ve been looking for. Thanks for the demo!! Liked & subscribed 👍
Thanks for the mic'ing up advice John, how close is the mic to the cab? Great result from the affordable mic. The mic'ing up cork-sniffers always seem to recommend mics costing hundreds!
I bought a Vox pathfinder as something small and unobtrusive to stick in the bedroom for my bad days. No reverb so I bought a Donner reverb pedal off amazon for 40 quid. Can't remember the exact model and I've lent it to a mate for a few weeks. It's the green one with a modulation reverb setting. Great little pedal and the modulation is handy for a chorus like effect. Give it a try and you can always return it if you dont like it.
I bought the head version a week ago and have it going through a Celestion 1x12 and my god it's good. Stick a treble booster in front and the tone is probably one of the best I've heard. My pro days, I had a DSL 2000 100w stack and it's that sound at 1w.
Very sweet video, I was wondering if the Ultra channel is as responsive…I have the JCM2000 DSL50 but it is not that responsive while our little Orange heads are…
One of those cheap 3 button chorus/delay/reverb pedals in the effects loop is probably all you need. I got one online for about $65 and it works just fine. I was surprised at the quality and sound for such a moderately priced product. It's not boutique but it gets the job done.
I think my DSL1 combo is great. I've had it for years. I record mine using Two Notes Torpedo so it saves using a mic. Don't like the sound of the speaker anyway. Sounds better through the 2x10 is use for my bass amp. I usually use the clean channel, but have reverb dialed down, preferring to add it in DAW.
Sounds great . Am looking at the dsl 40 as back into gigging now but my do like the origin 50 as well. Just has that more vintage sound. It gets some way to that plexi sound and being one channel makes life easy. Just stick my pedal board with it. Which one would you go for?
thanks john, been looking at this amp for a few months now,checking all the reviews etc' at 68 been loking for something a little more subtle if you like,still got my blues junior 3 and hot rod deluxe,also a blackstar 60w soloist amongst others,katana 100,fender mustang 4 etc, time for me to calm down lol
I seem to remember you say that the DS1 had an effects loop, could you not put a decent reverb pedal in the loop to get round the increase in verb when turning your guitars volume up, or would it still sound the same, gotta be worth a try, yes?
Marshall JCM 800 is my favourite amp, altho my opinion is based on the amp model of it in the NUX MG300 I use. I do like to combine it with with several boost/overdrive pedals, which just brings out more harmonic richness. Looks like a lovely little amp that one. But I have my heart set on the Orange Micro Dark as a valve mini amp to get someday, I'm just more curious for that one over the affordable Marshall offerings. Nice 1 John!
I've got the DSL20HR that I run through a 4x12. Great for venues but have to use am attenuator at home. I seem to bounce between the amp reverb and a pedal reverb depending what mood I'm in. - and I don't mind sounding like I'm playing at Live Aid rather than the local church choir.
I have a dsl 1 head running through a Marshall 2x12 angled cab. I wouldn’t choose the combo version because the speaker limits what the amp is capable of. As for reverb I’ve had no problems.
Kinda wish this was more in my price range. Have a 5w Monoprice Stage Right- the Harley Benton equivalent- and it is a job to get the tone you want at an apartment volume. With no headphone option, the 1w attenuator doesn't tame the beast!
Hi John, I have the 20 watt head into a captor torpedo and a Harley Benton 2 X 12 with vintage 30's. The reverb is not good for me, but got a host of pedals that fil the gap. The amp sounds great, really great, and volume for me isn't a problem, no neighbours and a very understanding Wife!!! Could you tell me what that Behringer mic is please? I would like to look it up, thanks for another great vid
Good sounds....and great playing! I don't think that I've played an amp with a basic built-in digital reverb was ever a "winner". I've gone to a reverb pedal in those cases. Now a good built-in Tube Driven Spring Reverb...that's a whole different Ball Game. 😃
Very Cool Demo/Review Thankyou. So No Headphones or emulated out Jack? Is that a 'bad thing' I don't know, but maybe an essential inclusion for me with close neighbors. I am finding all the low Watt Tube amps seem to have no Headphones/Emulated out. A little disappointing but must just be me otherwise they would have them.
Having this amp also, but on the green channel as I roll the treble all the way down, the volume increases, sounds like a gain boost knob when rolling off. On the red channel the treble knob behaves just normal as it is expected. Do you experience this also?
"...suddenly you're in a grain silo!" Funny! Grain silo acoustics seem to be popular for recording sessions, maybe Marshall was designing for those artists. As for foot switches, my old Bandit came with the foot switch included, while few manufacturers nowadays include their proprietary foot switches, which hobbles the amp significantly. People just accept that and will either skip the switch cause its too pricey or pay the extra "tax" just to get the amp working properly. It's turned me off buying a lot of amps. The one exception I made recently for a Vox amp, the proprietary foot switch isn't even available at all in my country, so not only will I have to pay for import duty but also higher shipping. I'm going to sell it and stick with the plugins.
Hi John, I have a question, I have that amp and I found out a way to use headphones with it (I practice at night). I disconnect cable that is on the back, and I plug in my headphones. But when I plug in my headphones I only one side of it? Can you please make any suggestions? Thank you.
Really nice , so will this amp not get me deported back to Canada if I use it at home, .5 watt is great for quiet practice, I agree I don't want to fart about with apps, plug the guitar in mess about with the eq to get that sound you want , rock and roll
Totally disagree my friend, I have had a lifetime messing with amps ! This DSL1 is the Holy Grail The reverb is fine you obviously don't dig reverb, I love mine no cons, leaves the class 5 for dead ! The best amp you can own in a limited space !! Oh I forgot to mention .1 watt power reduction Great, want areally good demo of this Amp check out ( Jason Likes Things )
Why must people insist in mic'ing amps in a review? You let your camera's built-in mic do the job----that way listeners can hear how loud it really is in a room. I have an ancient pocket-sized transistor radio that outputs .25 watts----I can make that sound like a powerhouse if a mic it
It's about getting a better representation of how the amp sounds. The camera mic simply won't convey what the amp actually sounds like in the room. I know, because I've done it that way & this way works better. Mic placement also makes an enormous difference. I spent a considerable amount of time trying the mic at different distances from the speaker and pointing at different portions of the speaker to get a recorded sound that accurately reflects the sound I'm hearing in the room. As for the volume question, this is pretty much impossible to depict accurately on this platform due to the way TH-cam compresses audio.
@@JRobsonGuitar But you don't listen to your amp with your ear up to the speaker, do you? Because that's what the viewer is hearing when you do it that way. If you don't want to use your camera's built-in mic, a better way would be to have the mic on a stand, placed at ear level while seated
Read my initial reply again. Especially the bit where I talk about matching the recorded sound (ie what you hear in the video) to the sound I hear in the room. You are hearing what I'm hearing.
Why do they make amps with gain channels? I don't want any gain at all, a clean only channel is all i need. This is why i never buy Marshall amps or a lot of other brands. My Roland JC22 gives me the cleanest sound that i can find for a solidstate amp. For my "Valve" sound i use a Vox AC30 played at a low volume to keep my neighbours happy.
The most glorious Marshall ever made imho. Had mine for a year and haven't even plugged into my other Marshalls lol
By far the best review on this DSL1 on TH-cam. Thank You Sir!
Through a nice set of PC speakers, I didn't hear the bad part of the reverb on my end even cranked up. Great Marshall tone! Good playing as per usual!
Reverb is between pre- and poweramp sections of the amp. When you crank classic gain, power amp start to distort as well, which is by its nature is strong compression of the signal, so reverb gets compressed as well. It is totally normal, it is not fault of any kind! It is still better than running reverb in front of the amp. The only way to get over it is to apply reverb later in recording. This is valid for other amps with reverb as well.
John, speaking as a former engineer in a big old school recording studio, mic placement on a cab is much like where you pick along the length of the string: it’s not so much a “do this not that” situation as it is one of flexibility. Put it wherever it sounds how you like 👍
I love the Marshall 1 watt amps. I went to a PRS clinic that Bernie Marsden was doing several years back and he played the whole night through a miked up Marshall 1 watt re-issue of a JTM and he sounded fantastic, as does this one of yours.
It sounds great, even with reverb and full-on volume!
What a nice video, you have really developed your skills as a presenter John, this video gives us exactly what most 'mature' guitar players would want from such an amp-I used to own a 5 watt Bugera little amp and that was kind of similar to this Marshall in sound. Cheers
I think the reverb on that amp sounds great.
It's a practice amp, adjust the reverb as needed or get a reverb pedal. Sounded fine to me anyway, grain silo!
NIce review! I have the 40W version, and it’s a great amp. Reverb not usable on mine either. For pedal reviews, I have noticed there is a large difference in how pedals sound based upon which amp you are playing them through. Biggest difference is between the Marshall and a Fender. If you ever get the valve amp itch again, I would highly recommend a Fender Princeton for lower volume applications.
I don’t know if it’s because TH-cam have compressed the hell out of this sound or if it’s my device? But, honestly, the reverb didn’t sound like a deal breaker. It maybe a little disappointing but there’s no such thing as the ‘perfect amp,’ especially in the home practice genre. I’ve been looking at a Blackstar HT1R but they always come across as muddy on the demo vids. The Marshall may just be what I’ve been looking for. Thanks for the demo!! Liked & subscribed 👍
cracking playing
I bought the 5watt version and loved it .I thought it was a bit boxy so I bought another one both sides of my guitar room it’s cracking ..love them 👍👍
why not just buy external 1x12 cabinet with some greenback? Small cabinets, especially closed back, always sound boxy, nothing to do with that.
Thanks for the mic'ing up advice John, how close is the mic to the cab? Great result from the affordable mic. The mic'ing up cork-sniffers always seem to recommend mics costing hundreds!
I bought a Vox pathfinder as something small and unobtrusive to stick in the bedroom for my bad days. No reverb so I bought a Donner reverb pedal off amazon for 40 quid. Can't remember the exact model and I've lent it to a mate for a few weeks. It's the green one with a modulation reverb setting. Great little pedal and the modulation is handy for a chorus like effect. Give it a try and you can always return it if you dont like it.
I bought the head version a week ago and have it going through a Celestion 1x12 and my god it's good. Stick a treble booster in front and the tone is probably one of the best I've heard. My pro days, I had a DSL 2000 100w stack and it's that sound at 1w.
Presumably you used the 1W setting for the review. Have you tried the 0.1W setting and/or the emulated output for recording?
Great sounding little amp.
Very sweet video, I was wondering if the Ultra channel is as responsive…I have the JCM2000 DSL50 but it is not that responsive while our little Orange heads are…
One of those cheap 3 button chorus/delay/reverb pedals in the effects loop is probably all you need. I got one online for about $65 and it works just fine. I was surprised at the quality and sound for such a moderately priced product. It's not boutique but it gets the job done.
I think my DSL1 combo is great. I've had it for years. I record mine using Two Notes Torpedo so it saves using a mic. Don't like the sound of the speaker anyway. Sounds better through the 2x10 is use for my bass amp.
I usually use the clean channel, but have reverb dialed down, preferring to add it in DAW.
Sounds great . Am looking at the dsl 40 as back into gigging now but my do like the origin 50 as well. Just has that more vintage sound. It gets some way to that plexi sound and being one channel makes life easy. Just stick my pedal board with it. Which one would you go for?
thanks john, been looking at this amp for a few months now,checking all the reviews etc' at 68 been loking for something a little more subtle if you like,still got my blues junior 3 and hot rod deluxe,also a blackstar 60w soloist amongst others,katana 100,fender mustang 4 etc, time for me to calm down lol
I seem to remember you say that the DS1 had an effects loop, could you not put a decent reverb pedal in the loop to get round the increase in verb when turning your guitars volume up, or would it still sound the same, gotta be worth a try, yes?
Reverb pedal already bought & hooked up. Review coming soon 👍
Hi…can I use headphones and get a decent sound/volume ?
Tnx
Marshall JCM 800 is my favourite amp, altho my opinion is based on the amp model of it in the NUX MG300 I use. I do like to combine it with with several boost/overdrive pedals, which just brings out more harmonic richness. Looks like a lovely little amp that one. But I have my heart set on the Orange Micro Dark as a valve mini amp to get someday, I'm just more curious for that one over the affordable Marshall offerings. Nice 1 John!
I've got the DSL20HR that I run through a 4x12. Great for venues but have to use am attenuator at home. I seem to bounce between the amp reverb and a pedal reverb depending what mood I'm in. - and I don't mind sounding like I'm playing at Live Aid rather than the local church choir.
I have a dsl 1 head running through a Marshall 2x12 angled cab. I wouldn’t choose the combo version because the speaker limits what the amp is capable of. As for reverb I’ve had no problems.
Wish they did the 5 watt model in a head unit.
Kinda wish this was more in my price range. Have a 5w Monoprice Stage Right- the Harley Benton equivalent- and it is a job to get the tone you want at an apartment volume. With no headphone option, the 1w attenuator doesn't tame the beast!
I use a pedal with a volume knob. I have some old Boss multi-fx pedals that work great for reducing volume.
If you like the amp then a power soak is a good option, it has to be the correct ohm rating though.
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Donated to him.
John, have you tried Harley Benton Tube 15 Celestion combo amp? It's got a 12" Celestion when compared to 8" on the DSL 1CR and is cheaper.
Hi John, I have the 20 watt head into a captor torpedo and a Harley Benton 2 X 12 with vintage 30's.
The reverb is not good for me, but got a host of pedals that fil the gap.
The amp sounds great, really great, and volume for me isn't a problem, no neighbours and a very understanding Wife!!!
Could you tell me what that Behringer mic is please? I would like to look it up, thanks for another great vid
Cheers mate. Here's the mic: www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0E7W
So is a amp better than a simulation because everything seems good
Good sounds....and great playing! I don't think that I've played an amp with a basic built-in digital reverb was ever a "winner". I've gone to a reverb pedal in those cases. Now a good built-in Tube Driven Spring Reverb...that's a whole different Ball Game. 😃
Very Cool Demo/Review Thankyou. So No Headphones or emulated out Jack? Is that a 'bad thing' I don't know, but maybe an essential inclusion for me with close neighbors. I am finding all the low Watt Tube amps seem to have no Headphones/Emulated out. A little disappointing but must just be me otherwise they would have them.
There IS an emulated line out
Very good small amp !
Have I missed a video with the light blue Tele I saw in part of the demo?? 🙂🎸🎸
Coming soon mate 👍
@@JRobsonGuitar I see...... Just a little tease!! 🎸🎸
How you mic up an amp? Just like you done it!
Behringer B906 just off centre of the cone 👍
Having this amp also, but on the green channel as I roll the treble all the way down, the volume increases, sounds like a gain boost knob when rolling off. On the red channel the treble knob behaves just normal as it is expected. Do you experience this also?
Can't say I have to be honest
"...suddenly you're in a grain silo!" Funny! Grain silo acoustics seem to be popular for recording sessions, maybe Marshall was designing for those artists. As for foot switches, my old Bandit came with the foot switch included, while few manufacturers nowadays include their proprietary foot switches, which hobbles the amp significantly. People just accept that and will either skip the switch cause its too pricey or pay the extra "tax" just to get the amp working properly. It's turned me off buying a lot of amps. The one exception I made recently for a Vox amp, the proprietary foot switch isn't even available at all in my country, so not only will I have to pay for import duty but also higher shipping. I'm going to sell it and stick with the plugins.
At least in the recording the reverb sounds fine to me.
Hi John, I have a question, I have that amp and I found out a way to use headphones with it (I practice at night). I disconnect cable that is on the back, and I plug in my headphones. But when I plug in my headphones I only one side of it? Can you please make any suggestions? Thank you.
That's because you're plugging stereo headphones into a mono socket. I think you can get a mono to stereo adaptor on Amazon 👍
@@JRobsonGuitar Thank you very much mate! I will look into that. Did you see the link I sent you regarding the best guitar tuners video you made?
Really nice , so will this amp not get me deported back to Canada if I use it at home, .5 watt is great for quiet practice, I agree I don't want to fart about with apps, plug the guitar in mess about with the eq to get that sound you want , rock and roll
Totally disagree my friend, I have had a lifetime messing with amps ! This DSL1 is the Holy Grail The reverb is fine you obviously don't dig reverb, I love mine no cons, leaves the class 5 for dead ! The best amp you can own in a limited space !! Oh I forgot to mention .1 watt power reduction Great, want areally good demo of this Amp check out ( Jason Likes Things )
Did I spot a new Telecaster in the video?
Review coming soon mate 👍
Great playing. Marshall needs to send you some free amps.
...from across the pond, the sentiment I hear is, "shut up, and play yer guitar."😎
Why must people insist in mic'ing amps in a review? You let your camera's built-in mic do the job----that way listeners can hear how loud it really is in a room. I have an ancient pocket-sized transistor radio that outputs .25 watts----I can make that sound like a powerhouse if a mic it
It's about getting a better representation of how the amp sounds. The camera mic simply won't convey what the amp actually sounds like in the room. I know, because I've done it that way & this way works better. Mic placement also makes an enormous difference. I spent a considerable amount of time trying the mic at different distances from the speaker and pointing at different portions of the speaker to get a recorded sound that accurately reflects the sound I'm hearing in the room. As for the volume question, this is pretty much impossible to depict accurately on this platform due to the way TH-cam compresses audio.
@@JRobsonGuitar But you don't listen to your amp with your ear up to the speaker, do you? Because that's what the viewer is hearing when you do it that way.
If you don't want to use your camera's built-in mic, a better way would be to have the mic on a stand, placed at ear level while seated
Read my initial reply again. Especially the bit where I talk about matching the recorded sound (ie what you hear in the video) to the sound I hear in the room. You are hearing what I'm hearing.
I have a DSL40 with individual reverb for the clean and ultra channel, and like I say it's crappy and ultra crappy. Totally unusable.
Jon, pls remind me of the maker of Blondie.
Scott Guitars. Here's where to find them: scott-guitars.co.uk/
There's that kik-ass Tele. And, on a Marshall!
Why do they make amps with gain channels?
I don't want any gain at all, a clean only channel is all i need.
This is why i never buy Marshall amps or a lot of other brands.
My Roland JC22 gives me the cleanest sound that i can find for a solidstate amp.
For my "Valve" sound i use a Vox AC30 played at a low volume to keep my neighbours happy.
Less is more. May be an age thing. Just wish i could shed a few more pounds.🍕🍕🍔🍔