That "Big stretch buddy!" felt like one of the most aggressive callouts I've ever seen Producer Guy throw at Screenwriter Guy. This is huge for the canon.
@@wesley2508there’s a big difference. Imagine video games which have graphics that surpass our own perception of reality. Basically beyond realism. Can’t? That’s because we are limited by what we can perceive
way to steal comments bro... 6 months before you - "Pretty funny how Andy's favorite movie is rendered in way more realistic graphics than Andy's world."
The real mission was Sox's mission. Sox is the best character and has the most impact on what actually happens all around. Buzz is sort of along for the ride. Taking Sox out of this movie, it would have suuuu-uuuucked. There is no way Andy would have wanted Buzz instead of Sox. It's fun to have Buzz to be Sox's bumbling sidekick, but having the sidekick (Buzz) without the main character (Sox) wouldn't be that fun.
Be careful when you imply that Ryan is the reason you didn't go see a Disney movie. If Disney finds out that Ryan is effectively undermining the hype that they carefully build to get consumers into the theaters, one day he might get an incredible offer from the mouse and we'll never hear from him again.
I used to waste time watching bad movies I knew I wouldn't like, just bc I also knew they would be popular, so I wanted to know what everyone was talking about. Thanks to pitch meeting, I can only waste ten minutes instead of two hours, and I can laugh along the way. Thanks pitch meeting!
Same… I was watching this with a friend today and was trying so hard to focus on the movie and not “oh I bet they bring up that in the pitch meeting” 😂😅😂
The buzzwords "dark" and "gritty" should really be removed from most screenwriter guys' lexicons. Not many people can make dark and gritty movies well.
@@theonebman7581 In terms of comic books movies especially. I rewatched "Blankman" with Damon Wayans a short time ago(after not having seen the movie for like 20 years)...and goddamn I miss when movies used to be fun and clever. Dark and gritty comic book movies are something most directors and writers cannot do well in cinema. If you want a dark gritty comic book style movie then just go watch Django or Inglourious Bastards. Then yell at Quentin on twitter to adapt some DC or MCU content lol...
"We can do whatever we want sir, as long as long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success" is a terrifyingly accurate illustration of Hollywood's obsession with sequels, remakes and reboots.
If it was because "We will save so much money on prerendered characters, existing costumes, props and sets," that would make actual business sense. "This was popular thirty years ago" doesn't work if you radically change the themes and tone of the movies.
@@Blind_Watcher Yeah, these are more like “We want to sell you some new original stories that we wanted to tell, but we’re not confident that the movie would sell, so let’s package it with something popular from 30 years ago.” Basically, the nostalgia characters with their own predetermined themes and tones here are but vehicles for new stories that doesn’t fit with the old characters.
I am currently waiting for Hollywood to resurrect Brandon Lee, and reboot The Crow, but have it take place in Nebraska, and the cowboy gang has had enough of Eric Draven's music. Which hep plays on repeat, way to loud, in his trailer, in the park.
Perhaps one day, our own technology will advance to the point that our nanotechnologically augmented eyeballs can perceive more detail and precision in games and movies than they can in physical reality. At which point, I dare say, people will begin to have even more serious trouble reconciling sanity, philosophy, fiction and reality!
To be fair they’ve already done this exact conception except it wad a tv show. I remember the buzz lightyear tv series even started with the toys watching it like a meta joke
@@omegagamer4124 They could've still worked it into the story in a way that it was original. The heroes father being a bad guy isn't just a Star Wars trope.
Producers: "What's looore?" Writers: "oh that's this stuff inside the package. We tear it all up take the stuff out and put what we want in there." Producers: "oh that stuff, yeah I don't care about that stuff. I only care if people buy it because it looks like the package that had the stuff they liked inside." Writers: "oh definetly it's got the same names, colors, logo and all that important branding." Producers: "great! Good thing people just want vaguely similar things in the original packaging.... Oh we had this new idea we call messaging just wait till you hear this..........."
But did anyone ever see that? I consider myself a big Pixar fan but, never even heard of the Star Command stuff till today. Judging by the reviews, I didn't miss much.
What's funny is, there was a cartoon called Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command, and it was fun! They already did the "make the Buzz Lightyear that Andy watched" plot before, and it didn't suck... so why'd they turn around years later and make one that sure sounds like it does suck?
@@ShirleyImNotSerious that’s the thing, Disney thought that doing some 90s action like they had in Start Command wouldn’t help sell this movie. In fact I think a Disney exec actually said he hated the animated series. But they went on the extreme end making this movie too serious in the process and it isn’t looking like something kids today would watch.
Thank you for bringing up the fact that the second Toy Story movie already established that Zurg is Buzz’s father, not an alternate version of Buzz. I also feel like this movie would have been a lot more successful if it was made to be like a fun 90s action movie that Andy would have seen. From what I have heard, I don’t see how this would be the movie that would have made Andy want a Buzz Lightyear toy especially since he was turning six years old in the first movie, five year old boys would not be interested in the type of movie Lightyear was. In fact it sounds like Lightyear was actually a remake of the movie that Andy actually saw that was trying to be gritty and realistic, but it doesn’t make anyone happy.
Exactly! Include aliens, lazers, battles on the ships, explosions, etc! Something kids would be into. This doesn't seem like a movie a kid would like, or at least not a movie that would be memorable enough to warrant a kid wanting a figure of the main character. The only reason any of these toys would sell is the notoriety that comes with Toy Story.
I mean ... that was mostly just to make a Star wars joke. The Star Command Cartoon didn't keep that idea either. But that doesn't make turning him into an older buzz a good idea. That's just stupid.
I think it's like mocking movie directors for not putting a droplet of effort to make a long-lasting theme that would actually relate to realistic people.
Stuff like the "biig stretch" "is there a dog in here?" is what keeps Pitch Meetings quality high. There are the catchphrases that are fun, of course, and seeing just where those phrases will come up in relation to the film of the week, but it wouldn't be able to coast on that forever. But in every video there's at least 2-3 well-timed takes that fit into the format, but are a standalone good joke to keep the pace up and dynamic. Great stuff.
@@iddobarzilai68 exactly he's praising the joke as if he's the only person that just viewed the video. If you're going to go into that much depth about how good the writing is in the show it would be appreciated if you would have explained the joke a little bit to all the other hundreds of thousands of us who are watching the video too! 🤷🏽Js
@@alethiamillner5603 I didn't think it needed explaining, given the many other comments praising it as a joke, I was merely saying it was one example of a fresh joke in the video format. But: "Biiiig stretch" is something of a meme, that people say to their dogs or cats or babies when they stretch. A lot of people do it, it's an amusing habit lots of people have, so many audience members will relate to the phrase. In this context, a "big stretch" also means to try overly hard to justify why the Zerg calls himself Zerg. I suppose the joke is: given the double meaning, we the audience know that Producer Guy is saying that the Script Writer is stretching to come up with a reason for Zerg to be called Zerg, which is obviously hamfisted and kind of silly, but Script Writer guy thinks Producer is praising a stretching dog that doesn't actually exist, meaning Script Guy is amusingly oblivious to Producer Guy's criticism. So it's a joke with some parts: it's cute/funny/amusingly odd that many people have the habit of praising their dogs when they stretch, it's a double meaning worked well into the flow of banter, and Script Guy looks like an idiot. And unlike "super easy, barely an inconvenience" or "X is tight!", it's not a catchphrase, meaning it's a freshly integrated joke, which keeps the pace of these videos from becoming too predictable by only relying on the same lovable catchphrases to get a laugh.
imagine needing to get a youtuber approval to go see a movie that anyone with common sense can detect is trash in the first place you must really have a low IQ
@@russianhomecat3313 i wouldnt know because the movie is banned in my country. Design wise it looks like any normal cat. People also said that cat in captain marvel is the best part of that movie, but it isnt going to sell any merchandize or be memorable.
@@andrewkuebler4335 well I did cause from the trailer it looked like it actually could have been good. And Pixar generally has a really high standard for movies. But this just wasn't it. You could feel disney pandering for money and it was sooooo disappointing. I should've just watched top gun again
As with all Disney. Why would anyone support a company that calls people racist or bigoted for having a different opinion and standards for their products? I don't. Same for Amazon and the others. Using this tactic is only telling of how shit their stuff is.
I get the feeling that if I'd been in the studio where it was made right before release, I would have given everyone there a stroke by stating what I was hoping for in the movie. "I'm a massive fan of the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon series, so I am ABSOLUTELY expecting this to take place in the same continuity. That show was colourful, action packed, and hilarious. So this should naturally be so as well. The characters on that show are great. It's fine if you use new characters, but Mira, Booster, and XR have to at least cameo. Zurg was equally hilarious and terrifying. So, of course, he'll be like that here as well."
It was established in one of the Fast and Furious Pitch Meetings that Producer Guy is lactose-intolerant so the amount of cheese in that line would have caused something like that to happen
I want to know how one character has an Australian accent after 2 generations have passed and nobody else in the tiny space colony he grew up in has said accent.
You know, they could've done a movie about Buzz as a recruit for Star Command and his journey to becoming one of their top agents. Plus, it could include Zurg's backstory and his rise to power.
This version of the movie would have been a layup, basically a Toy Story 5 in that kids would love it. It would have added to the lore. Instead they decided to go with a confusing plot that doesn't even make sense within the context of its source material.
They could even have done a movie where he is a space ranger but loses one of his best friends during a mission and has to learn to lean on other people again when he is put in charge of a bunch of new recruits. They could even start the movie off with having the cast of Toy Story find a VHS tape of the movie and putting it on, making a much more diegetic clarification of it's context within the universe than starting the movie off with text on a black screen.
"As long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success" is the wordiest thing that's ever made me cry a little about the future of cinema
Same I looooove watching movies as an art form but these days it's all just 'what story, character, actors or franchise has made us money in the past?' And then we end up with a bunch of mediocre films. In my opinion Maverick and No way home are the only ones that came out recently that were done well
No way in Hell was this the movie "Andy" saw in 1995. Andy, the little boy from the 90s who loves heroic cowboy stories and usually plays Buzz as the dashing star of his toybox and his make-believe playsessions? That Andy? Says _this_ is his favorite movie? _This_ is his Star Wars? A hit so massive there's two aisles dedicated to just Buzz Lightyear stuff at Al's Toy Barn. Bull-fucking-shit.
@@jacobwansleeben3364 Oh, sure. A child's favorite movie. Hell, maybe a dozen or a hundred kids. This? Is the kind of movie that develops a cult following. Small, but there. Every movie is someone's favorite movie. Especially if it's their first. But Lightyear is not the 2 aisles worth of merchandise kind of kids' favorite movie. Especially not in the 90s. This isn't Star Wars. This is more like a "I watched it as a kid and kinda liked it" kinda movie. Not the "I gotta buy a Buzz figure" kind.
Hahaha Almost every reaction that producer blue jacket Ryan has was what I had. What made it funnier is that the humour most likely had no explanation. This was the weirdest video by far, but I love it so much.
To be fair. He did that once before with the "why does love hurt so much? ...because it was real" line in Hobbit Battle of the five armies pitch meeting.
@@thomasmills339 because Pixar has proven they can make good movies for everybody, such as Toy Story, WALL-E, and many other films, regardless of the fact that the target audience is kids or not. Because art shouldn't just have to be appreciated by who we think are dumb kids?
From the trailer and previews I kept thinking, “This movie doesn’t even look fun.” And finding out what the actual plot is they really did suck anything remotely fun out of it. But at least they made friends along the way.
It was actually surprisingly good. My wife and I watched it just to get out of the house. Our expectations were low but ended up thoroughly enjoying it. Our kids are grown, so no little ones with us. But, the little girl in the seat next to me was on the edge of her seat the entire time.
It isn't as bad as everyone is saying it is. Of cause it's not amazing but it's entertaining nether the less. It doesn't feel like the buzz we know and its pretty clear it's just another way of Disney milking more money out of an already existing franchise but as a stand-alone animated action, sci-fi adventure film that's got some memorable references and nice action sequences it's good. I mean the story behind it ain't great but young kids don't care for that part; they just want an entertaining film.
I'm surprised that he didn't mention that the origin of the robots and the zurg suit was "I just found it randomly with no explanation on where it came from." I withstood all the other stuff in that movie, but that killed it for me.
@@kingsleycy3450 I still would have expected at least some throw away line like: "They were built by an alien civilization" or "They were built by future humans" or "I built them with future technology" or even at least an "I don't know where they came from" instead of just saying "I found them" and then just dropping the question of where they came from completely!
"oooh big stretch buddy!" "Is there a dog in here?" That went over my head at first and then it all hit me at once😅😅😅😅😅😅 when are they gonna start giving out awards for social media? Best Writer nominee right here
@@amitavamozumder73 the way he said "big stretch buddy" sounded like something a person might say to a dog that had just woken up. But it was actually about how unlikely the plot point was.
Imagine if you will a 2D animated Buzz Lightyear cartoon that is a fun, epic, silly Sci-Fi movie that explains his character in Toy Story. I would have went and saw that.
"We can do whatever we want as long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success" Pitch Meeting motto of 2022.
And telling all the fans they are horrible people if they don't like it and that they are subverting our expectations. Then when it travels to China marginalized the black guy on the poster and add a few scenes that explain the gay characters are actually straight.
Dude, you're feckin funny. I'm a 33 year veteran of the animation industry, so seeing you skewer stuff like this is fun. How animated movies get made can be such a slog, I was at DreamWorks for fifteen years, worked on everything from prince of Egypt to the dragons franchise... you wouldn't believe the headache involved in KEEPING hiccup losing his leg. Execs were very uncomfortable with that idea, but it tested well. Anyhow, love your channel
Oh shit really! I never would expect a person that works in a BIG industry would chat in the comments! I did saw comments where the guy that was making "Me and My Shadow" in dreamworks but boss baby pushed that to the side. Sadly. But I'm glad that you support pitch meeting!
It's funny really. Sometimes in stories you just want good vs evil, you just want everything to work out well in the end. Sometimes it's best to have some realism in it. And it doesn't seem to depend on whether its a show for kids or a movie for adults. But one thing seems likely. That sometimes the business people need to step back and let the story tellers make a story. Too many cooks ruin the broth and all that.
You worked on Prince of Egypt? Wow what an honor! It's one of my GOAT movies. Amazing movie with great visuals, great animation, great script, great colorization, great music and a powerful message. Wishing you a lot of health and blessings.
One of your best ones yet. Fantastic! Man this movie had so many more problems than the thing it got so much crap for, and you summarized all of them perfectly.
Imagine if Zurg was built up as a massive looming threat, but unaware of their relationship, Buzz kept brushing him aside as Zorg became an increasingly more unhinged parody of Darth Vader just wanting to be a dad
He tried to teach them to say Buzz but the closest they got was Zerg. Ah, yes. A name with almost none of the same letters in it. Big stretch indeed. Great video!
CinemaSins usually complain about nonsense and are counting sins for "how did this happen?" while the very same thing was explained in the movie. Or sin for some things not being explained, while they didnt really need explanation.
That's another really good point. That video game makes almost no sense in the context of the film. However, 90s video games based on movies are notorious for having nothing to do with the actual plot of the movie, so maybe it's not a plot hole after all.
I've seen the movie and yeah I can pretty much confirm this For most of the movie I was thinking either "wait, [plot point] is happening already?" or "can we get the pen guy's arc out of the way ffs"
@@dakotateears3749 you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain... that's how i feel about the franchises that keep being ruined
My thoughts exactly while watching this movie. It was so depressing. Like the entire premise of it was a recipe for disaster. I can't believe they didn't come up with another plot.
I'm always surprised how often time-travel plots are used considering how hard it is to not write a story with countless plot holes when it's just using a plain ol' linear timeline. What story did they watch or read that wasn't a convoluted mess that made them decide that it would be a good idea to try something similar?
There's like... Primer, 12 monkeys And uh... pre destination. That's like it I think for ones that did it right . Tenet was pretty good too but I hesitate to count is a time travel movie per se
I'm guessing they watched the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Children of Time" which has a similar plot. The one thing I can say about this movie (based solely on this pitch meeting) is that it ended the story better since it didn't have to reset everything for an episode next week.
Disney and Pixar already did a whole cartoon series decades ago regarding Buzz Lightyear. It was one of my favorite shows as a kid. At least that kept the humor of the character, while adding humorous Space Rangers as his teammates. XR for the win.
This actually pretty consistent of Disney you know, Lion King 1/2 completely disregards the Timon and Pumbaa series that came out before it like the Lightyear movie does to the series
I finally saw this movie and by the end I was ready for my Socks the Cat franchise. This cat had to do a lot of heavy lifting and deserves a standalone film.
@@CalvinHikes I watched it yesterday and I completely agree with all of the comments. Lightyear It’s WAY too serious for a movie that a 6 year old Andy would’ve loved. Yes, this movie’s technically animated but for a little kid to sit through and deeply enjoy it to the point to decorate his entire room with Buzz Lightyear merchandise it’s nonsensical. They added Sox to make the movie a little more kid friendly but it’s not enough.
@@007Julie Think of it like Ghostbusters, a lot of kids grew up on the cartoon and the adults enjoyed the live action movie. 2 different stories of the same main character. I think Andy's Buzz was based on the cartoon in their world
We really need a hero to kill Hollywood producers who approve stupid projects. No, really. The real death, not a MCU bring ‘em back death. They must be stopped.
When Stephen Hawking said that inside a black hole the laws of physics break down and anything can happen no matter how fantastic, somehow I never thought of a bookcase.
EXACTLY!!! I was so unsettled after watching Lightyear. The only thing I could articulate was that it simply didn't land with me. ME! The biggest Buzz Lightyear nerd ever. You've said it all perfectly, sir. I salute you.
I dont even know what I thought this movie would be but it wasn't this and I really don't even know what "this" was any way. This pitch has saved me alot of dollars
This wasn't made for Buzz Lightyear fans. It was made to tell a MESSAGE because that's all the trolls at Pixar care about anymore. Onward was their last good film. (By the way, I was going to call them something worse than "trolls" but decided to be nice.)
I wasn’t alive for the iconic cinematic moment of “No Luke. I am your father.” But I imagine it was the polar opposite of the no feelings emoted from Zergs reveal as buzz.
Man, he went all in on this one 😂 The fact that they keep using popular characters from popular movies to bait you to watch a movie about a totally different character is driving him nuts 😭 Be strong Ryan!
@@majorgear1021 Moon Knight is especially bizarre. There is no established Moon Knight franchise. Why make one and make it a bait and switch it at the same time?!
Disney: "We'll never acknowledge the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, but we did make an origin movie!" Internet: "Please put the cartoon series on Disney Plus."
Wow, I guess I didn't realize it wasn't on Disney Plus. I was never a fan, but I watched a few episodes back in the day. Why does Disney not like it now?
@@ClokworkGremlin Does VPN have a streaming service? Is Buzz Lightyear of Star Command available on that streaming service? Or on any streaming service at all? If not, then you really are just saying without meaning anything.
Seriously, does Disney hate money? What is their deal with the animated series? I know Lasseter hated it, but does he still have that much influence over the company even when he's gone? The Lightyear movie would have sold like hotcakes if they used the story and characters from the animated series.
@@TheFunetGamestation I would say it replaced. The "get off my back" and "woops...woopsie" gag acknowledge the absurdity of the script. "Hey shut up" is not even met with a response from producer guy, which is sort of a meta-commentary of "just turn off your brain and enjoy this hot garbage"
I like the get all the way off my back line, but it’s good to see change up when it fits. Instead of shoehorning it in. Wow wow wow wow wow…. Wow! I see what I did there.
When I heard about this movie, I thought "cool, a pulpy Flash Gordon adventure sounds like a great time". Then I heard that it bombed at the box office and was confused. Then I watched this video and was disgusted by what a depressing, cynical, nihilistic plot they managed to come up with.
I don't see how it's nihilistic, just that the morality of going back in time was so questionable (as opposed to definitively wrong) that it was almost like there may as well have been no stakes at all. Sure, from young Buzz's perspective old Buzz was going to wipe out a colony to establish a new one. But the only reason it seems like that was because he interacted with the descendants of the ship. How could you argue that old Buzz is doing anything other than finally finding an undo button after 50 years. It's not like not crash-landing the ship in the first place would have been genocide, and young Buzz doesn't even know how time travel works, let alone if moral obligations go back in time with a person. There certainly was no Evil Emperor Zurg, and that was both a disappointment and a plot hole. I suppose you could argue that getting us to think about such moral dilemmas is the real point of film, but umm... Time travel is impossible, there's no need to think about it. Although my mother said the takeaway was to make the best of the present and move on, rather than get stuck in the past... Or something like that. So it has a real moral, but definitely far from Pixar's best work. Sorry for rambling I guess I had to tell it to someone.
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj It's nihilistic because all Buzz's friends die in the first 20 minutes of the film, leaving him with duty and fidelity to Star Command and the mission as his only remaining reasons to keep living. Over the story, he learns that duty and fidelity are actively evil, and that he himself is evil becase of those virtues, leaving him with nothing at all to live for. The film plays a sleight of hand game by never telling you what Buzz's mission was in the first place, or why it's important. If they told you what the mission was, then Buzz would be the good guy for staying true to the mission, and all his actions would be morally backed by the mission's stakes. The story twists every virtue into vice. It says dilligence is a burden to others. Just accept your miserable circumstances and let everyone stay crashed. It says bravery is selfish. Buzz isn't risking himself for the sake of others, he just wants fame at the expense of others. It says fidelity and loyalty are a pointless distraction. Everyone promised to go on this mission, and Star Command is relying on them, but that's not convenient anymore, so they should all just break their promises and abandon the mission. What happens to everyone back home because of their failure is of no concern for them, and Buzz's loyalty and commitment are just burdens on the rest of the colony. Buzz's character at the start of the movie SHOULD be a model for others to emulate, and they take every opportunity to take a dump on his most virtuous traits.
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj Worst of all is the core message of "It's ok to fail". That's true, but not at all in the way the movie presents it. When you fail, you get back up and try again, which is exactly what Buzz does from the very beginning. He didn't need to learn anything. He was doing the right thing from the start. The movie's real message is "If you fail, give up and stop trying", which is one of the most evil messages you can give.
@@Strill_ SUch a difference to other films, say, Apollo13, where "failure is not an option". Whatever happened to battling the odds, never give up, beat your fears and become a stronger person.
The core message is "It's ok to fail". That's true, but not at all in the way the movie presents it. When you fail, you get back up and try again, which is exactly what Buzz does from the very beginning. He didn't need to learn anything. He was doing the right thing from the start. The movie's real message is "If you fail, give up and stop trying", which is one of the most evil messages you can give.
I think it was trying to point out that sometimes you need to know where to stop. It can be good to keep trying, but I think they showed that Buzz was becoming obsessed with it not for the good of others (a lot of the people had made a life for themselves on the new planet) but for more personal reasons (to get rid of the guilt he felt). There are times when you need to keep trying and times when you need to accept failure, deal with your personal pain from it, and move on to create a better life.
Still better than "Turning Red". *"Lie, cheat, and scheme your way around your strict mother by selling (photographs of) your body until you break her and she reaches an 'agreement' so lax that you can let your body parts hang out and say 'my body my choice' with no resistence."*
@@cwood892 Agreed. I think people do a lot of dumb and destructive things because they seemed to be - and maybe were! - a good idea when they started, and when it just isn't any more we fall for the Sunk Cost Fallacy. Take cars: At the beginning, they made streets both cleaner and safer because the alternative was horse-drawn carts and carriages, and horses panic easily and also, well, poop. A lot. Which did spread sicknesses and was an accident risk. (That old "slips on a banana peel" cartoon thing? The banana peel is a cleaned-up stand in for , ahem, road apples.) Switch to today, when half of the street is often taken up by parking cars, part of the area that get's sealed up every year is for personal parking spaces, and we _easily_ have the technological means for alternatives in towns and cities.
The thing that bugs me about this movie is that I had always thought that the old cartoon series "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command" was the actual Buzz Lightyear source material that Andy's toy was based on. I don't like how this movie retcons that show out of existence. If I were writing this movie, I would have Lightyear be the reboot of the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon that adult Andy takes his kids to go see.
Unfortunately Disney doesn't hire people who like the source material They hear make a movie about Buzz Light-year and hear a very summarized story of who he is, they think they can do better and we get a movie this
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 IMO the movie should have just been "This is a movie about buzz lightyear the character, no relation to toy story" If you're going to ignore cannon anyways just ditch it and make fan fiction. Once I realized I was watching Buzz lightyear lost in space it was pretty fun movie once you ignore it being tied to toy story.
The most ironic part about this movie is that fans of the toy story franchise old and new regained their love and respect for the Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command tv series, which is the outcome that Pixar didn't expect
especially because of all of Pixar's attempts to sweep that show under the rug because former head of Pixar, John Lassiter despised it. In all seriousness, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was a profoundly underrated show that had cool action, hilarious comedy, and a fun Sci-Fi universe to explore.
That's a tall order not only because the plot is batshit crazy but because that movie is so damn good. Probably a lot of "what is happening?" moments as well as "Oh, having hotdogs for fingers is TIGHT!"
“We’re gonna have this big twist where Zerg turns out to be an older Buzz” “But didn’t we establish in Toy Story 2 that Zerg is his father?” “Hey, shut up”
My favorite part of any Pitch Meeting is the 3 seconds of "Spoiler Warning" that doesn't apply to me because I have no intentions of ever watching around 98% of the movies covered.
The main problem I found was that characterisation and motivation was terrible. We needed a scene of Buzz getting given the mission by the commander. For that matter, what was the mission? No idea. Buzz would probably have been better as someone who'd done well their entire life which would work better in terms of being inflexible and wanting to fix his mistake (Although I have no idea what Buzz could have done differently, it was unavoidable not a mistake). If they did go with Buzz being initially bad as a cadet then give us a scene of H and him as cadets and why Buzz is a jerk now to new cadets.
Really it would have worked best if they threw this entire script away and made a pulpy space adventure instead, something like that Flash Gordon movie but with toystory branding.
Yeah I just felt like there was a lot of vagueness. Like yeah the fact there was no clear mission, and how buzz's whole personality was finishing the obscure mission. We didn't really get any clue into his real motivations or why he does what he does. And then that stupid twist. It could have worked if, again, they had established some real motive. But they made him evil simply to woah the crowd, and it just ended up being boring and weak.
Watch the old one instead, "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, the adventure begins" It's 20 years old, has a fraction of the budget, never aired in theaters, but it holds itself together really well as an "in-universe toy movie from the 90's". Anyway I loved it as a kid !
Wow that plot sounds…..actually MORE confusing than interstellar. Add in the controversy about its messaging and only Ryan George could make this film sound entertaining. Dodged THAT bullet. Keep it up Mr Ryan!
@@eugenetswong true the public should have intelligent objective as possible conversation about controversy while being comfortable with others respectfully disagreeing. It shouldn’t take a Pixar movie to make people start arguing. Problem it’s marketed to kids while having seemingly having an agenda
@@stanza77 THE KISS TOOK HALF A BLOODY SECOND. THAT IS IT. There was nothing other than a tiny moment with a woman kissing a woman, which is exactly the same level as so many other movies meant for kids. Queer representation, ESPECIALLY when it's one tiny kiss, isn't an agenda.
@@ThornForTheWynn as I understand it the film has a clear anti father message from trustworthy sources. It’s not the kiss. Zootopia and Last Jedi have same sex couples they still grossed a billion. It’s banned in 14 countries, those other films aren’t.
The first time I watched this I clicked off around 3:05 because I didn't want to much of the movie spoiled, since I kinda wanted to watch it. After watching the movie I don't think it's a bad movie on its own, but it does a bad job of being a Buzzlighter movie with-in the Toy Story universe. Zurg isn't Buzz's father, the green alien dudes don't even show up from Toy Story and there are a few important side characters that where never mentioned in Toy Story.
Occasionally I get envious of Ryan and his wholesome, used car salesman-look, but then I always remember that he actually has to watch and pay attention to these idiotic movies.
If you listen to his interview, he said that watching movies are no more fun for him, because he has to keep looking for plot holes and mistakes and such.
"ok money"! 🐱💰
why the hell is this pinned
@@vengz2782 because yes
I am internally grateful
@@DCMill Thank god I didn’t see this movie cause I heard it got poor reviews and LGBTQ content in it. It’s also banned in 14 countries now.
@@vengz2782 yes
That "Big stretch buddy!" felt like one of the most aggressive callouts I've ever seen Producer Guy throw at Screenwriter Guy. This is huge for the canon.
"Big Stretch Buddy" but it was majestic indeed! 👌
Next meeting:
"I love your ideas, I have never disagreed with them"
"Hey didn't you disagree last time"
"Hey shut up. Canon isn't important."
Big stretches are tight!
@@jonnnnniej you are correct and I've fixed it, thank you, I was so shocked I had trouble properly processing the moment
@@gxmbxnx that's the Ryan George effect! :D
He really did a “the friends we made along the way” joke. Never expected it.
Maybe the real friends along the way joke is the friends we made along the way.
Making friends along the way is TIGHT!
🤢.....yeah, sorry, i don't know what that was (5:06)
@@timewave02012 hurghl...🤮
I loved this part! I clapped! I clapped when i saw it!
From Andy's perspective, this movie had cgi that significantly surpassed his own reality in realism. Must have been a trip.
I mean... We went to see Avatar in theaters which features giant blue people living on an alien moon and just *none* of that was real.
He meant that the CGI in Lightyear is better than the CGI that Andy lives in. @@wesley2508
@@wesley2508wasn’t in 1995 though was it
@@wesley2508there’s a big difference. Imagine video games which have graphics that surpass our own perception of reality. Basically beyond realism. Can’t? That’s because we are limited by what we can perceive
way to steal comments bro...
6 months before you - "Pretty funny how Andy's favorite movie is rendered in way more realistic graphics than Andy's world."
The part where screenwriter guy says "The friends he made along the way" and the producer guy's response was pure gold!
The real mission was Sox's mission. Sox is the best character and has the most impact on what actually happens all around. Buzz is sort of along for the ride. Taking Sox out of this movie, it would have suuuu-uuuucked.
There is no way Andy would have wanted Buzz instead of Sox. It's fun to have Buzz to be Sox's bumbling sidekick, but having the sidekick (Buzz) without the main character (Sox) wouldn't be that fun.
@@MewmewGrrl When a side character indirectly defies fact and logic
Is the reason I came to the comments
Response*
These pitch meetings have officially become my way of watching movies I don’t feel like seeing in theaters and I’m never disappointed
I agree, there is no point in actually watching any of these movies anymore.
literally the only way I saw Cats. it was Jellical extremely jellical
What is that word? What is it?
Same.
Be careful when you imply that Ryan is the reason you didn't go see a Disney movie. If Disney finds out that Ryan is effectively undermining the hype that they carefully build to get consumers into the theaters, one day he might get an incredible offer from the mouse and we'll never hear from him again.
Time to gather round, once again, to watch a Pitch Meeting for a movie we're never going to see.
This video is 100x times better then the actual garbage movie.
When I heard about this movie, my thought was basically, "Why? Who is this even for?"
@@InJeffable 💯💯💯.
I didn't see it cause I live in oman
I used to waste time watching bad movies I knew I wouldn't like, just bc I also knew they would be popular, so I wanted to know what everyone was talking about. Thanks to pitch meeting, I can only waste ten minutes instead of two hours, and I can laugh along the way. Thanks pitch meeting!
I love that Producer Guy was about to hurl after that "Friends we made along the way" line.
Did you? Is that what you liked?
@@Flipmode1900 It is what I liked too, James King, I liked it a lot.
It's become Disney's tagline and they cram it down every single project...everything...all the time.
The hurling had me almost hurling with laughter, he is seriously the best
I watched this at the cinema today. Half way through literally all I could think about was what the Pitch Meeting would be like...
Same… I was watching this with a friend today and was trying so hard to focus on the movie and not “oh I bet they bring up that in the pitch meeting” 😂😅😂
So, was it super easy to watch the movie, or tight in any way? 🤔
I think it's telling of the state of movies that people get more joy put of watching a critique of the movie than out of the actual movie itself
I pray for movies to flop! just so i can see my favorite content creators talk shit 😂
I sat for an hour video tearing apart the last jedi, I slept watching the last jedi
This and HISHE are life
I think it says far more about the people themselves.
@@jacobwansleeben3364 ho-how?
"Get that fun outta here!" is also Disney's Producer's philosophy
The buzzwords "dark" and "gritty" should really be removed from most screenwriter guys' lexicons. Not many people can make dark and gritty movies well.
@@py_a_thon I second that
@@py_a_thon Not to mention the market is unnecessarily oversaturated with dark and gritty movies
@@theonebman7581 In terms of comic books movies especially.
I rewatched "Blankman" with Damon Wayans a short time ago(after not having seen the movie for like 20 years)...and goddamn I miss when movies used to be fun and clever.
Dark and gritty comic book movies are something most directors and writers cannot do well in cinema.
If you want a dark gritty comic book style movie then just go watch Django or Inglourious Bastards. Then yell at Quentin on twitter to adapt some DC or MCU content lol...
"Get that fun outta here" was probably also the motto of the bozos who wrote the script for 6th and 7th season of the flash series on amazon
"We can do whatever we want sir, as long as long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success" is a terrifyingly accurate illustration of Hollywood's obsession with sequels, remakes and reboots.
If it was because "We will save so much money on prerendered characters, existing costumes, props and sets," that would make actual business sense. "This was popular thirty years ago" doesn't work if you radically change the themes and tone of the movies.
@@Blind_Watcher Yeah, these are more like “We want to sell you some new original stories that we wanted to tell, but we’re not confident that the movie would sell, so let’s package it with something popular from 30 years ago.” Basically, the nostalgia characters with their own predetermined themes and tones here are but vehicles for new stories that doesn’t fit with the old characters.
I am currently waiting for Hollywood to resurrect Brandon Lee, and reboot The Crow, but have it take place in Nebraska, and the cowboy gang has had enough of Eric Draven's music. Which hep plays on repeat, way to loud, in his trailer, in the park.
Of course!
If making originals made money, they'd be doing that.
Pretty funny how how Andy's favorite movie is rendered in way more realistic graphics than Andy's world.
Perhaps one day, our own technology will advance to the point that our nanotechnologically augmented eyeballs can perceive more detail and precision in games and movies than they can in physical reality.
At which point, I dare say, people will begin to have even more serious trouble reconciling sanity, philosophy, fiction and reality!
Which means he would think the CGI is unrealistic.
Unbelievable graphics is the only reason that a kid could have liked this movie enough to want an action figure of Buzz
@@hazukichanx408 well, we can somehow see Airbending in the Avatar show (animated) even though, ya know, air be invisible.
Thats because the real graphics was the friends we made along the way, I don't care.
''Can we have buzz lightyear watch a movie in this movie and then make that movie someday?''
Man, I love pitch meetings.
"As long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of success."
The cat is gonna get a movie though a show is more likely.
People from the future tell me I'm wrong.
A woody western he should watch that
movie inceptions are TIGHT!
To be fair they’ve already done this exact conception except it wad a tv show. I remember the buzz lightyear tv series even started with the toys watching it like a meta joke
‘Didn’t we already establish that in Toy Story 2, Zurg was Buzz’s father?” Exactly what I was thinking when I saw that scene!
Yes but that was more of a play on the star wars and Darth Vader is his father plot
@@omegagamer4124 They could've still worked it into the story in a way that it was original. The heroes father being a bad guy isn't just a Star Wars trope.
To be fair it was just parodying Star Wars back then so it’s not clear how much they really should have been expected to keep that
Same haha
Het! Shut up!
Love how they felt the need to do this when there was already a cartoon that established a good bit of the lore behind Buzz
It's Disneys MO these days. "What do you mean there was already a story? Just write some nonsense, they're all gonna be staring at the phones anyway!"
Because producer guy loves money.
@@mallninja9805 Star Wars in a nutshell.
Producers: "What's looore?"
Writers: "oh that's this stuff inside the package. We tear it all up take the stuff out and put what we want in there."
Producers: "oh that stuff, yeah I don't care about that stuff. I only care if people buy it because it looks like the package that had the stuff they liked inside."
Writers: "oh definetly it's got the same names, colors, logo and all that important branding."
Producers: "great! Good thing people just want vaguely similar things in the original packaging.... Oh we had this new idea we call messaging just wait till you hear this..........."
But did anyone ever see that? I consider myself a big Pixar fan but, never even heard of the Star Command stuff till today. Judging by the reviews, I didn't miss much.
What's funny is, there was a cartoon called Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command, and it was fun! They already did the "make the Buzz Lightyear that Andy watched" plot before, and it didn't suck... so why'd they turn around years later and make one that sure sounds like it does suck?
"We've got to have...money!"
@@artbytesiabut they didn't.
Exactly. That series wasn't spectacular, but it was better than the movie.
@@genzi78514a very key difference between the series and this movie is that the series is fun to watch
I loved that show and the movie as well. I plan to never watch this movie
I think we can all agree that if Andy saw anything that’d make him want a Buzz Lightyear toy, it’d be the animated series which was actually fun
Yes! Finally, someone remembers Buzz Lightyear of Star Command!
The plot of this movie is so morose, adult, and unlike anything for kids in the actual 90's that Andy probably would have been terrified by that toy.
OMg YES!! That was a great movie!!
Yeah, especially since none of the characters from Lightyear don't exist in the Toy Story universe. No cat robot toys flew off the shelves?
@@ShirleyImNotSerious that’s the thing, Disney thought that doing some 90s action like they had in Start Command wouldn’t help sell this movie. In fact I think a Disney exec actually said he hated the animated series. But they went on the extreme end making this movie too serious in the process and it isn’t looking like something kids today would watch.
Thank you for bringing up the fact that the second Toy Story movie already established that Zurg is Buzz’s father, not an alternate version of Buzz. I also feel like this movie would have been a lot more successful if it was made to be like a fun 90s action movie that Andy would have seen. From what I have heard, I don’t see how this would be the movie that would have made Andy want a Buzz Lightyear toy especially since he was turning six years old in the first movie, five year old boys would not be interested in the type of movie Lightyear was. In fact it sounds like Lightyear was actually a remake of the movie that Andy actually saw that was trying to be gritty and realistic, but it doesn’t make anyone happy.
Exactly! Include aliens, lazers, battles on the ships, explosions, etc! Something kids would be into. This doesn't seem like a movie a kid would like, or at least not a movie that would be memorable enough to warrant a kid wanting a figure of the main character. The only reason any of these toys would sell is the notoriety that comes with Toy Story.
I mean ... that was mostly just to make a Star wars joke.
The Star Command Cartoon didn't keep that idea either. But that doesn't make turning him into an older buzz a good idea. That's just stupid.
I think that a six year old may have enjoyed Lightyear, but I'm not sure if they'd all be as hyped up enough to buy Lightyear toys as the movies said.
This movie is far from gritty and realistic, it maintains an almost constant positive tone despite the events of what happens.
@@Terryterryterryterryterry Like Buzz Lightyear of Star Command (2000)?
the delivery of that "friends he made along the way" is killer (besides the reaction, obviously)
5:13 made my day😂
I think it's like mocking movie directors for not putting a droplet of effort to make a long-lasting theme that would actually relate to realistic people.
My theory is what we see in the light year movie is actually the live-action remake of the movie that Andy saw
Stuff like the "biig stretch" "is there a dog in here?" is what keeps Pitch Meetings quality high. There are the catchphrases that are fun, of course, and seeing just where those phrases will come up in relation to the film of the week, but it wouldn't be able to coast on that forever. But in every video there's at least 2-3 well-timed takes that fit into the format, but are a standalone good joke to keep the pace up and dynamic. Great stuff.
Bobs and Vagene
Can you please explain the joke?
@@iddobarzilai68 exactly he's praising the joke as if he's the only person that just viewed the video. If you're going to go into that much depth about how good the writing is in the show it would be appreciated if you would have explained the joke a little bit to all the other hundreds of thousands of us who are watching the video too! 🤷🏽Js
To those that don’t get it there’s a meme about how you have to say “oooh big stretch” every time a dog wakes up and stretches itself out
@@alethiamillner5603 I didn't think it needed explaining, given the many other comments praising it as a joke, I was merely saying it was one example of a fresh joke in the video format. But: "Biiiig stretch" is something of a meme, that people say to their dogs or cats or babies when they stretch. A lot of people do it, it's an amusing habit lots of people have, so many audience members will relate to the phrase. In this context, a "big stretch" also means to try overly hard to justify why the Zerg calls himself Zerg. I suppose the joke is: given the double meaning, we the audience know that Producer Guy is saying that the Script Writer is stretching to come up with a reason for Zerg to be called Zerg, which is obviously hamfisted and kind of silly, but Script Writer guy thinks Producer is praising a stretching dog that doesn't actually exist, meaning Script Guy is amusingly oblivious to Producer Guy's criticism. So it's a joke with some parts: it's cute/funny/amusingly odd that many people have the habit of praising their dogs when they stretch, it's a double meaning worked well into the flow of banter, and Script Guy looks like an idiot. And unlike "super easy, barely an inconvenience" or "X is tight!", it's not a catchphrase, meaning it's a freshly integrated joke, which keeps the pace of these videos from becoming too predictable by only relying on the same lovable catchphrases to get a laugh.
Making changes to the franchise that will disappoint Pixar fans is tight!
just like Star Wars...
We made this as a hate letter to the fans would be a power move
Indeed
maybe the real pixar were the friends we made along the way
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
This channel has saved me so much money and time lol
"hey wanna go see that movie?" Nah Ill just watch the Pitch Meeting
This was such a great video, that I'm hoping that Hollyweird makes more bad bad movies.
imagine needing to get a youtuber approval to go see a movie that anyone with common sense can detect is trash in the first place
you must really have a low IQ
The fact Ryan did the puke reflex was on point, that was my key highlight of this meeting. 10/10
"If Andy watched this, he would want a cat toy"... Too optimistic. If Andy watched this, Toy Story would be Woody and Star Lord
Cat is the best part love it
Wrong Chris. He’s not a guardian, he’s an avenger.
@@russianhomecat3313 i wouldnt know because the movie is banned in my country. Design wise it looks like any normal cat. People also said that cat in captain marvel is the best part of that movie, but it isnt going to sell any merchandize or be memorable.
@@reuv8441 Obviously i'm insulting Evans and saying he is boring and unlikable compared to Pratt.
@@orionhan2431 wasn’t obvious to me, mainly because I actually thought that Chris Pratt played him before I watched the movie.
I love how most of us are watching this knowing that we aren’t actually going to see this movie because why would we?
Why would anyone?
@@andrewkuebler4335 well I did cause from the trailer it looked like it actually could have been good. And Pixar generally has a really high standard for movies. But this just wasn't it. You could feel disney pandering for money and it was sooooo disappointing. I should've just watched top gun again
As with all Disney. Why would anyone support a company that calls people racist or bigoted for having a different opinion and standards for their products? I don't. Same for Amazon and the others. Using this tactic is only telling of how shit their stuff is.
@@mckinleymontague2699 Where is the 4th comment?
@@mkultra2456 If I had to guess someone said something massively homophobic.
The twist is that Evil Emperor Zurg isn't evil an emperor or even called Zurg.
He is the Holy Roman Empire of Pixar movie characters.
Not technically though. Old Buzz found the ship and used it for his own. So the real Zurg is still out there.
I get the feeling that if I'd been in the studio where it was made right before release, I would have given everyone there a stroke by stating what I was hoping for in the movie.
"I'm a massive fan of the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon series, so I am ABSOLUTELY expecting this to take place in the same continuity.
That show was colourful, action packed, and hilarious. So this should naturally be so as well.
The characters on that show are great. It's fine if you use new characters, but Mira, Booster, and XR have to at least cameo.
Zurg was equally hilarious and terrifying. So, of course, he'll be like that here as well."
Ryan quickly saying "hey shut up" never fails to make me laugh
I hope this becomes the new running joke along with "Super easy, barely an inconvenience" and "oh, _ is tight" and "get off by back" etc.
How many movies does this guy watch in order to reference past movies spot on
@Jordan Reynolds Ah good point, I actually do prefer this one tbh
I prefer "get all the way off my back"
I love that's a new thing. He must've seen the positive reviews from the first time he did it and kept it
I love the idea of Ryan going to a movie with a legal pad just writing furiously and interjecting the one-liners
Pretty sure he just scrolls through reddit to find the plot holes
@@timbradshaw5481 I hope so for his sake but I can't get that legal pad picture out of my head now and I don't want to.
Probably a bit of both.
@@timbradshaw5481 you may have noticed that he possesses some degree of creativity...
Bringing a notepad in a theatre is tight!
When 'Sir' did a dry vomit in response to the friends idea, I nearly choked! That was right on the money 😂
😂
Most relatable moment.
It’s Producer Guy, but yeah, somebody might be named Sir.
@@isavenewspapers8890 And someone might be named "Producer Guy"
It was established in one of the Fast and Furious Pitch Meetings that Producer Guy is lactose-intolerant so the amount of cheese in that line would have caused something like that to happen
I want to know how one character has an Australian accent after 2 generations have passed and nobody else in the tiny space colony he grew up in has said accent.
As a Mexican American who doesn't speak Spanish, I get it.
@@2stepjoey how tho
Because the actor had an Australian accent.
;)
New Zealand accent actually. It's Taika Waititi.
@@valerial9081 it just does.
You know, they could've done a movie about Buzz as a recruit for Star Command and his journey to becoming one of their top agents. Plus, it could include Zurg's backstory and his rise to power.
The movie I was expecting, for sure.
This version of the movie would have been a layup, basically a Toy Story 5 in that kids would love it. It would have added to the lore. Instead they decided to go with a confusing plot that doesn't even make sense within the context of its source material.
They could even have done a movie where he is a space ranger but loses one of his best friends during a mission and has to learn to lean on other people again when he is put in charge of a bunch of new recruits.
They could even start the movie off with having the cast of Toy Story find a VHS tape of the movie and putting it on, making a much more diegetic clarification of it's context within the universe than starting the movie off with text on a black screen.
@@MyScorpion42 that would've been a way better film and it would've paid homage to the TV series
They couldve done a lot of things, but they went with something that could push...""""THE MESSAGE"""" instead, of course.
"Big stretch, buddy!"
"Is there a dog in here?"
Killed me because I say the exact same thing to my dog 🤣
I say it to my cat as well lmao
I thought he said, "Bug stretch, money!"
This got me too.
I thought it was a reference to Slinky, a stretchy dog from the same franchise...
Say the same thing to my dog, like twice a day when he gets off the couch. Probably gonna say it to him when I put him down.
"As long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success" is the wordiest thing that's ever made me cry a little about the future of cinema
Especially with Disney at the helm!
Disney's really trying to compete with Illumination as the worst animation empire
Same I looooove watching movies as an art form but these days it's all just 'what story, character, actors or franchise has made us money in the past?' And then we end up with a bunch of mediocre films. In my opinion Maverick and No way home are the only ones that came out recently that were done well
Yeah, money.
The future? More like the present and pasr few decades.
3:01 “ok money!” Please make this a new catchphrase for the producer!! I was laughing my ass of at the line and your delivery of it 😂😂😂😂
No way in Hell was this the movie "Andy" saw in 1995. Andy, the little boy from the 90s who loves heroic cowboy stories and usually plays Buzz as the dashing star of his toybox and his make-believe playsessions? That Andy? Says _this_ is his favorite movie? _This_ is his Star Wars? A hit so massive there's two aisles dedicated to just Buzz Lightyear stuff at Al's Toy Barn.
Bull-fucking-shit.
Not to mention same sex kissing in kids movies wasn't a thing.
Yeah, I don’t see how this movie was what Andy saw. In my mind Star Command is what he really watched.
yeah that movie was one of the worst ive seen from disney/pixar ngl
I could easily see how this could be a Childs favourite movie.
@@jacobwansleeben3364 Oh, sure. A child's favorite movie. Hell, maybe a dozen or a hundred kids. This? Is the kind of movie that develops a cult following. Small, but there. Every movie is someone's favorite movie. Especially if it's their first.
But Lightyear is not the 2 aisles worth of merchandise kind of kids' favorite movie. Especially not in the 90s. This isn't Star Wars. This is more like a "I watched it as a kid and kinda liked it" kinda movie. Not the "I gotta buy a Buzz figure" kind.
0:09 my exact reaction the first time I heard about this film
Exactly wtf
First time, and every time
Hahaha
Almost every reaction that producer blue jacket Ryan has was what I had. What made it funnier is that the humour most likely had no explanation.
This was the weirdest video by far, but I love it so much.
@The Rest Of Us
My reaction to this movie was “Should’ve been Woody’s Round Up” that gritty RDR style western prequel we actually deserved to get.
The gag gag was hilarious! Is there anything more fun than a pitch meeting? Loving these.
Yeah i think he toppled himself with that one
The nausea was inside of him all along!
To be fair. He did that once before with the "why does love hurt so much? ...because it was real" line in Hobbit Battle of the five armies pitch meeting.
The real gag were the friends we made along the way.
Besides the friends you made along the way?
I’ve got a chronic illness and this video made me laugh for the first time in a while. Thank you for the humor
I love how it’s just blatantly obvious that Ryan absolutely HATED this film.
I can relate.
I haven't watched it yet but that's my thoughts. It has to be bad for him to be this savage.
The "twist" was disappointing lol
It's a kid's movie isn't it? Why would you watch it?
@@thomasmills339 because Pixar has proven they can make good movies for everybody, such as Toy Story, WALL-E, and many other films, regardless of the fact that the target audience is kids or not. Because art shouldn't just have to be appreciated by who we think are dumb kids?
@@thomasmills339 You seem to be equating "kids" with "bad"
I'd rewatch Lilo & Stitch 20 times in a row if I could
"Oh, is there a dog in here?" well done Ryan! Comedy gold.
From the trailer and previews I kept thinking, “This movie doesn’t even look fun.” And finding out what the actual plot is they really did suck anything remotely fun out of it. But at least they made friends along the way.
It was actually surprisingly good. My wife and I watched it just to get out of the house. Our expectations were low but ended up thoroughly enjoying it. Our kids are grown, so no little ones with us. But, the little girl in the seat next to me was on the edge of her seat the entire time.
It isn't as bad as everyone is saying it is. Of cause it's not amazing but it's entertaining nether the less. It doesn't feel like the buzz we know and its pretty clear it's just another way of Disney milking more money out of an already existing franchise but as a stand-alone animated action, sci-fi adventure film that's got some memorable references and nice action sequences it's good. I mean the story behind it ain't great but young kids don't care for that part; they just want an entertaining film.
@@DaveCM I agree. Me and my wifes boyfriend went to see it and we had a lot of fun.
Big Doubt. Skipping this BS.
@@TimSlee1 And made friends along the way
4:45 The perfect, straight-faced, eyes focused delivery of “Hey, Shut up..” Magnifiq! Bellisimo! I needed that laugh!!
I'm surprised that he didn't mention that the origin of the robots and the zurg suit was "I just found it randomly with no explanation on where it came from." I withstood all the other stuff in that movie, but that killed it for me.
I'm surprised he never pointed out how inconsistently stupid the "Andy" framing device is.
Given that it's the 90s, I could excuse it if his reasoning was "Toy R' Us/ McDonald's wants to sell toys".
@@kingsleycy3450 I still would have expected at least some throw away line like: "They were built by an alien civilization" or "They were built by future humans" or "I built them with future technology" or even at least an "I don't know where they came from" instead of just saying "I found them" and then just dropping the question of where they came from completely!
"oooh big stretch buddy!"
"Is there a dog in here?"
That went over my head at first and then it all hit me at once😅😅😅😅😅😅 when are they gonna start giving out awards for social media? Best Writer nominee right here
Plus Producer Guy's gag reflex at the "friends he made along the way" line reminded me of how my cats react to smells they don't like.
sorry but what's the joke? a stretched dog? like a dachshund ?
@@amitavamozumder73 the way he said "big stretch buddy" sounded like something a person might say to a dog that had just woken up. But it was actually about how unlikely the plot point was.
I actually didn't understand it. What did he mean?
Maybe he was referring to the toy story dog Slinky, who could stretch?
Imagine if you will a 2D animated Buzz Lightyear cartoon that is a fun, epic, silly Sci-Fi movie that explains his character in Toy Story.
I would have went and saw that.
They have a tv show that was good
"We can do whatever we want as long as it's derivative of intellectual property with a proven track record of financial success"
Pitch Meeting motto of 2022.
More like the from 2004 to present day. It has definitely gotten worse though
And telling all the fans they are horrible people if they don't like it and that they are subverting our expectations. Then when it travels to China marginalized the black guy on the poster and add a few scenes that explain the gay characters are actually straight.
@@Ogema-1 Yea, they'll bend the knee to foreign adversaries for a quick buck, but if Americans actually voice a contrary opinion we're the real enemy.
I can't wait for Pizza Planet Truck the Movie!
@@Ogema-1
Lol, true. Typical Disney.
Watching the Pitch Meeting before the actual movie is super easy, barely an inconvenience!
instead of* the actual movie
“Barley Barley Barley”
He almost exclusively covers movies I don't wanna see in the first place, so it always works out for me.
barley is a type of grain
Same
Dude, you're feckin funny. I'm a 33 year veteran of the animation industry, so seeing you skewer stuff like this is fun. How animated movies get made can be such a slog, I was at DreamWorks for fifteen years, worked on everything from prince of Egypt to the dragons franchise... you wouldn't believe the headache involved in KEEPING hiccup losing his leg. Execs were very uncomfortable with that idea, but it tested well. Anyhow, love your channel
Oh shit really!
I never would expect a person that works in a BIG industry would chat in the comments! I did saw comments where the guy that was making "Me and My Shadow" in dreamworks but boss baby pushed that to the side. Sadly. But I'm glad that you support pitch meeting!
It's funny really.
Sometimes in stories you just want good vs evil, you just want everything to work out well in the end.
Sometimes it's best to have some realism in it.
And it doesn't seem to depend on whether its a show for kids or a movie for adults.
But one thing seems likely.
That sometimes the business people need to step back and let the story tellers make a story.
Too many cooks ruin the broth and all that.
You worked on Prince of Egypt? Wow what an honor! It's one of my GOAT movies. Amazing movie with great visuals, great animation, great script, great colorization, great music and a powerful message. Wishing you a lot of health and blessings.
My childhood (and adulthood) thanks you. (I'm 33)
Interesting tidbit that they didn't like him losing his leg, very cool. Glad you all fought for it! stakes and consequences are vital!
One of your best ones yet. Fantastic! Man this movie had so many more problems than the thing it got so much crap for, and you summarized all of them perfectly.
Imagine if Zurg was built up as a massive looming threat, but unaware of their relationship, Buzz kept brushing him aside as Zorg became an increasingly more unhinged parody of Darth Vader just wanting to be a dad
*Zurg theme begins to play* "DESTROY BUZZ LIGHTYEAR in a game of catch. DESTROY BUZZ LIGHTYEAR in a game of catch. DESTROY BUZZ LIGHTYEAR
That scene in toy story 2 reminds me of the running gag in how it should have ended where darth Vader randomly show telling everyone he has son.
Yes! An old man trying to find his son but ended up becoming evil and fighting said son.
Aw being super early to pitch meeting is TIGHT!
And it's super easy, barely and inconvenience.
It is?
Being on the Early Squad is tight!
True that
It must have been super hard to come up with that one!
I always look forward to the "Super easy, barely an inconvenience."
Absolutely satisfying.
It must be hard to find things that are absolutely satisfying.
I think you’re making it *too* easy…
Got my kid the t-shirt a couple years ago.
It's his PE shirt.
I find it ironic and apropos at the same time.
Ryan might snap his neck doing that one day.
“Big stretch buddy!” With the screenwriter completely missing it thinking he’s talking to a dog is tight!
He tried to teach them to say Buzz but the closest they got was Zerg. Ah, yes. A name with almost none of the same letters in it. Big stretch indeed.
Great video!
That's how robots work. By sounding out letters and words. It's just science.
Hey that's not fair. There's a Z in both. Not in the same spots whatsoever... but they ARE there.
In the future, there's technology so advanced you can't imagine it- yet it's weakness is it can't pronounce his name.
@@EskChan19 You're right, let me adjust it.
Z: am I a joke to you?
I used to watch CinemaSins when I wanted a recap of a movie I had no intention of seeing, Pitch Meetings are much shorter and more wholesome.
And thankfully, less boner jokes.
CinemaSins usually complain about nonsense and are counting sins for "how did this happen?" while the very same thing was explained in the movie. Or sin for some things not being explained, while they didnt really need explanation.
@@Jackrazorus yeah that channel got so bad and just frustrating to watch
And less boring. My goodness Cinema Sins is so long...and hostile.
@@TheAlpacalypseIsUponUs The first videos of cinemasins were fun cause the sins made sense. Now it’s just jokes for the sake of jokes
That opening scene in Toy Story 2 with the video game is more akin to what I’d want the movie to be like.
Yes!!!
That's another really good point. That video game makes almost no sense in the context of the film. However, 90s video games based on movies are notorious for having nothing to do with the actual plot of the movie, so maybe it's not a plot hole after all.
These pitches are waaaaay more entertaining than the movies might be.
I've seen the movie and yeah I can pretty much confirm this
For most of the movie I was thinking either "wait, [plot point] is happening already?" or "can we get the pen guy's arc out of the way ffs"
"might be" lol. Niel might not be the most well spoken boy in the class, but he has the right spirit.
It sure is, sir.
There is no way a young Andy would have wanted a toy from a story that adult.
AND boring. Wish they would have left Toy Story alone after the third movie, it was the perfect goodbye to the characters.
Hallelujah to that. I'm sick of all my favourite franchises being ruined.
@@dakotateears3749 you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain... that's how i feel about the franchises that keep being ruined
My thoughts exactly while watching this movie. It was so depressing. Like the entire premise of it was a recipe for disaster. I can't believe they didn't come up with another plot.
Why not? Children aren't idiots. Just because a film has a more "adult" story doesn't mean children can't find enjoyment in it.
This is brilliant:) Also thanks for the separate channel for pitch meetings! Subscribing to this channel is super easy, barely an inconvenience
And my subscription feed isn't cluttered by a bunch of terrible ScreenRant garbage that I have no intention of watching.
Oh Really!
@@ph4se2 Yea yea yea!
Hear me out: A pitch meeting about a pitch meeting movie based on a pitch meeting movie from another pitch meeting.
Oh wow wow wow wow oh wow my man.
Pitch-ception?
Been done, it was an anniversary episode
@@VeteranofthePsychicWars they also did the british collab pitch meeting for the new bond. that was meta as well.
"Oh, no, I've gone cross-eyed!"
Loved it as usual! I've got a couple old ideas - Hitchcock's "Rope" and/or Henson's "The Dark Crystal"
Please don't let him make fun of "the Dark Crystal"...
@@phousefilms I adore the Dark Crystal more than most all movies…but I really wouldn’t mind seeing his take on the absurdities of it.
Every single time the screenwriter guy says "Hey shut up!" never fails to make me chuckle. You're a genius, Ryan.
Hey shutup I agree.
Also “he was in the previous movie!” and “That’s the name of the movie!” are good lines.
He always does the "wow wow wow..wow". So you can imagine my excitement when he did Loki with Owen Wilson. lmfao... wowwwwww
I'm always surprised how often time-travel plots are used considering how hard it is to not write a story with countless plot holes when it's just using a plain ol' linear timeline. What story did they watch or read that wasn't a convoluted mess that made them decide that it would be a good idea to try something similar?
It sounds like they made a Lost in Space movie but put buzz lightyear as the main character for marketing.
There’s nothing kids would love more than a convoluted time-travel plot.
There's like... Primer, 12 monkeys And uh... pre destination. That's like it I think for ones that did it right .
Tenet was pretty good too but I hesitate to count is a time travel movie per se
They probably thought they were making a *Back to the Future* film but made a Mark Walberg Planet of the Apes by mistake.
I'm guessing they watched the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Children of Time" which has a similar plot. The one thing I can say about this movie (based solely on this pitch meeting) is that it ended the story better since it didn't have to reset everything for an episode next week.
Disney and Pixar already did a whole cartoon series decades ago regarding Buzz Lightyear. It was one of my favorite shows as a kid. At least that kept the humor of the character, while adding humorous Space Rangers as his teammates. XR for the win.
This actually pretty consistent of Disney you know, Lion King 1/2 completely disregards the Timon and Pumbaa series that came out before it like the Lightyear movie does to the series
Yes, but that one episode with the Yux- sorry, the X-shaped creatures that latch to your neck and make you kill people STILL scares me.
I loved the horror bits that show would just throw in, with the Wire Wolf, Nos-4A2, and that random haunting.
@@YouthRightsRadicalnos was the villian that would sell really well these days he can control any tech with a bite
I finally saw this movie and by the end I was ready for my Socks the Cat franchise. This cat had to do a lot of heavy lifting and deserves a standalone film.
“That was a biiiig stretch buddy” and “is there a dog” got me right in my heart piece. I say that all the time when my doggo stretches. 🤣🥰
Right in your heart piece? You have a pace maker?
It's LITERALLY required to say. To not say is to be a sociopath.
@@fallingspark2258 lmao exactly! Without question- there are rules to this thing!!!
You have to say that, it’s the law
Damn, they had way better CGI in the early 90s than I realized
That's because it's "not CGI". In the Toy Story universe, this would be a live action film.
@@speeding2fast Unless those spaceships were reaaaaaaally good pratical effects, his point stands.
Also the odds of having a gay couple in a mid-90s family adventure film is highly unlikely.
Or! Was the first time we saw Andy actually far in the future in some small town suburbia?!
Even funnier is the idea that Andy would be seeing a movie where the characters somehow look more realistic than real people a la Toy Story cgi
Congratulations Disney for finding a way to bore adults and confuse kids at the same time
looking at the box office not many people got bored of it,most parents saved money for minions instead,a kids movie that's just that.
Just watched it, and it was pretty boring! Not terrible but just incoherent and boring.
@@CalvinHikes I watched it yesterday and I completely agree with all of the comments. Lightyear It’s WAY too serious for a movie that a 6 year old Andy would’ve loved. Yes, this movie’s technically animated but for a little kid to sit through and deeply enjoy it to the point to decorate his entire room with Buzz Lightyear merchandise it’s nonsensical. They added Sox to make the movie a little more kid friendly but it’s not enough.
@@007Julie Think of it like Ghostbusters, a lot of kids grew up on the cartoon and the adults enjoyed the live action movie. 2 different stories of the same main character. I think Andy's Buzz was based on the cartoon in their world
I loved this movie so much
I’m CONVINCED this was the exact pitch meeting😂
Ryan George, not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.
He described exactly how I feel about the film.
Ryan is like Scrubbing Bubbles, he watches crap so we don't have tooooo!
We really need a hero to kill Hollywood producers who approve stupid projects. No, really. The real death, not a MCU bring ‘em back death. They must be stopped.
@@richardpboo2018 did you see the movie?
Why don't we deserve him? I mean I don't need him either, I just find his videos entertaining.
"Oh getting stuck in a bookcase with Matthew McConaughey is TIGHT" had me dying🤣🤣
When Stephen Hawking said that inside a black hole the laws of physics break down and anything can happen no matter how fantastic, somehow I never thought of a bookcase.
EXACTLY!!! I was so unsettled after watching Lightyear.
The only thing I could articulate was that it simply didn't land with me. ME! The biggest Buzz Lightyear nerd ever.
You've said it all perfectly, sir. I salute you.
It was a movie that didn't need to exist, filled with characters nobody cares about, direction that was off, and a forgettable story
I dont even know what I thought this movie would be but it wasn't this and I really don't even know what "this" was any way. This pitch has saved me alot of dollars
This wasn't made for Buzz Lightyear fans. It was made to tell a MESSAGE because that's all the trolls at Pixar care about anymore. Onward was their last good film. (By the way, I was going to call them something worse than "trolls" but decided to be nice.)
I wasn’t alive for the iconic cinematic moment of “No Luke. I am your father.” But I imagine it was the polar opposite of the no feelings emoted from Zergs reveal as buzz.
"Getting stuck in a bookcase with Matthew McConaughey is tight!" HAHA, this movie only WISHES it could be that creative!
Bleh, that movie was so Nolany I couldn't stand it. Somehow he outdid himself with Tenet though.
@@SeraphsWitness small brain
@@SeraphsWitness Agreed. I died of a Nolan overdose during that movie.
@@SeraphsWitness and when are people going to stop wasting money and lives rescuing Matt Damon?!
Getting stuck in a bookcase is tight, even without McConauyhey
Man, he went all in on this one 😂 The fact that they keep using popular characters from popular movies to bait you to watch a movie about a totally different character is driving him nuts 😭 Be strong Ryan!
Yeah that’s true
Like Hawkeye and Obi Wan series. And Moon Knight.
@@majorgear1021 Moon Knight is especially bizarre. There is no established Moon Knight franchise. Why make one and make it a bait and switch it at the same time?!
@@AlienCowThatMoos Because they own his IP so they don't have to pay anyone else to use him.
Just like He-man
Disney: "We'll never acknowledge the Buzz Lightyear cartoon, but we did make an origin movie!"
Internet: "Please put the cartoon series on Disney Plus."
Wow, I guess I didn't realize it wasn't on Disney Plus. I was never a fan, but I watched a few episodes back in the day. Why does Disney not like it now?
Someone uploaded the series on TH-cam, but half the episodes were taken down and it's shitty quality without subtitles.
A VPN connection is cheaper than a Disney+ subscription, and you can watch the highest quality videos without any internet connection.
Just saying.
@@ClokworkGremlin Does VPN have a streaming service? Is Buzz Lightyear of Star Command available on that streaming service? Or on any streaming service at all? If not, then you really are just saying without meaning anything.
Seriously, does Disney hate money? What is their deal with the animated series? I know Lasseter hated it, but does he still have that much influence over the company even when he's gone? The Lightyear movie would have sold like hotcakes if they used the story and characters from the animated series.
This one had me cracking more than usual... "I love you"... "I'm in love with you"
His little "Hey shut up" has replaced "I don't know" or "you're gonna have to get all the way off my back" but I love it.
it's good to have more quips in his arsenal, mixes things up a bit while still maintaining the same type of humour. love it
@@TheFunetGamestation I would say it replaced. The "get off my back" and "woops...woopsie" gag acknowledge the absurdity of the script. "Hey shut up" is not even met with a response from producer guy, which is sort of a meta-commentary of "just turn off your brain and enjoy this hot garbage"
I like the get all the way off my back line, but it’s good to see change up when it fits. Instead of shoehorning it in. Wow wow wow wow wow…. Wow! I see what I did there.
@Arz Zeti - your *SPAM* comments don't even make sense. Who is "anna"?? Delete your garbage. You've been reported.
New catch phrases are tight!
Oh man! After watching that movie all I could think was: there is so many low hanging fruit for a pitch meeting. ... And you did not disappoint!
When I heard about this movie, I thought "cool, a pulpy Flash Gordon adventure sounds like a great time". Then I heard that it bombed at the box office and was confused. Then I watched this video and was disgusted by what a depressing, cynical, nihilistic plot they managed to come up with.
I don't see how it's nihilistic, just that the morality of going back in time was so questionable (as opposed to definitively wrong) that it was almost like there may as well have been no stakes at all. Sure, from young Buzz's perspective old Buzz was going to wipe out a colony to establish a new one. But the only reason it seems like that was because he interacted with the descendants of the ship. How could you argue that old Buzz is doing anything other than finally finding an undo button after 50 years. It's not like not crash-landing the ship in the first place would have been genocide, and young Buzz doesn't even know how time travel works, let alone if moral obligations go back in time with a person.
There certainly was no Evil Emperor Zurg, and that was both a disappointment and a plot hole.
I suppose you could argue that getting us to think about such moral dilemmas is the real point of film, but umm... Time travel is impossible, there's no need to think about it. Although my mother said the takeaway was to make the best of the present and move on, rather than get stuck in the past... Or something like that. So it has a real moral, but definitely far from Pixar's best work.
Sorry for rambling I guess I had to tell it to someone.
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj It's nihilistic because all Buzz's friends die in the first 20 minutes of the film, leaving him with duty and fidelity to Star Command and the mission as his only remaining reasons to keep living. Over the story, he learns that duty and fidelity are actively evil, and that he himself is evil becase of those virtues, leaving him with nothing at all to live for. The film plays a sleight of hand game by never telling you what Buzz's mission was in the first place, or why it's important. If they told you what the mission was, then Buzz would be the good guy for staying true to the mission, and all his actions would be morally backed by the mission's stakes.
The story twists every virtue into vice. It says dilligence is a burden to others. Just accept your miserable circumstances and let everyone stay crashed. It says bravery is selfish. Buzz isn't risking himself for the sake of others, he just wants fame at the expense of others. It says fidelity and loyalty are a pointless distraction. Everyone promised to go on this mission, and Star Command is relying on them, but that's not convenient anymore, so they should all just break their promises and abandon the mission. What happens to everyone back home because of their failure is of no concern for them, and Buzz's loyalty and commitment are just burdens on the rest of the colony.
Buzz's character at the start of the movie SHOULD be a model for others to emulate, and they take every opportunity to take a dump on his most virtuous traits.
@@AnonymOus-ss9jj Worst of all is the core message of "It's ok to fail". That's true, but not at all in the way the movie presents it. When you fail, you get back up and try again, which is exactly what Buzz does from the very beginning. He didn't need to learn anything. He was doing the right thing from the start. The movie's real message is "If you fail, give up and stop trying", which is one of the most evil messages you can give.
@@Strill_ SUch a difference to other films, say, Apollo13, where "failure is not an option". Whatever happened to battling the odds, never give up, beat your fears and become a stronger person.
It's actually somewhat light hearted with the mai cast.
The core message is "It's ok to fail". That's true, but not at all in the way the movie presents it. When you fail, you get back up and try again, which is exactly what Buzz does from the very beginning. He didn't need to learn anything. He was doing the right thing from the start.
The movie's real message is "If you fail, give up and stop trying", which is one of the most evil messages you can give.
yeah. the messages in the movie contradicts each other.
I think it was trying to point out that sometimes you need to know where to stop. It can be good to keep trying, but I think they showed that Buzz was becoming obsessed with it not for the good of others (a lot of the people had made a life for themselves on the new planet) but for more personal reasons (to get rid of the guilt he felt). There are times when you need to keep trying and times when you need to accept failure, deal with your personal pain from it, and move on to create a better life.
Still better than "Turning Red".
*"Lie, cheat, and scheme your way around your strict mother by selling (photographs of) your body until you break her and she reaches an 'agreement' so lax that you can let your body parts hang out and say 'my body my choice' with no resistence."*
Someone needs to tell this to the Disney execs who keep greenlighting these woke box office disasters.
@@cwood892 Agreed. I think people do a lot of dumb and destructive things because they seemed to be - and maybe were! - a good idea when they started, and when it just isn't any more we fall for the Sunk Cost Fallacy.
Take cars:
At the beginning, they made streets both cleaner and safer because the alternative was horse-drawn carts and carriages, and horses panic easily and also, well, poop. A lot. Which did spread sicknesses and was an accident risk. (That old "slips on a banana peel" cartoon thing? The banana peel is a cleaned-up stand in for , ahem, road apples.)
Switch to today, when half of the street is often taken up by parking cars, part of the area that get's sealed up every year is for personal parking spaces, and we _easily_ have the technological means for alternatives in towns and cities.
The thing that bugs me about this movie is that I had always thought that the old cartoon series "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command" was the actual Buzz Lightyear source material that Andy's toy was based on. I don't like how this movie retcons that show out of existence.
If I were writing this movie, I would have Lightyear be the reboot of the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon that adult Andy takes his kids to go see.
According to the director of the flim, he says that this movie doesn't retcon anything
that cartoon will always be canon in the hearts of the fans.
@@TheStarBot maybe the cartoon is a weird spinoff of this movie…
with completely different characters.
Unfortunately Disney doesn't hire people who like the source material
They hear make a movie about Buzz Light-year and hear a very summarized story of who he is, they think they can do better and we get a movie this
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 IMO the movie should have just been "This is a movie about buzz lightyear the character, no relation to toy story" If you're going to ignore cannon anyways just ditch it and make fan fiction. Once I realized I was watching Buzz lightyear lost in space it was pretty fun movie once you ignore it being tied to toy story.
The most ironic part about this movie is that fans of the toy story franchise old and new regained their love and respect for the Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command tv series, which is the outcome that Pixar didn't expect
I am surprised that Disney didn’t try to promote the idea of a Buzz Lightyear movie by putting it on Disney+.
especially because of all of Pixar's attempts to sweep that show under the rug because former head of Pixar, John Lassiter despised it. In all seriousness, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was a profoundly underrated show that had cool action, hilarious comedy, and a fun Sci-Fi universe to explore.
Ooh, new failures that accidentally give the spotlight to old successes are tight.
This movie actually triggered a my memories of watching that show as a kid.
@@concepts6460 Me too! It was a fun show and they should have just copied it for this movie lol
We need an "Everything Everywhere all at once" pitch meeting. I need to know how this madness was created.
"Oh, shoving awards into buttholes is *tight!*"
Yes!
i second this.
even though my brain still hurts.
Ryan will have to work overtime to make this Pitch Meeting happen. Great film that's HELLA mind-blowing!
That's a tall order not only because the plot is batshit crazy but because that movie is so damn good.
Probably a lot of "what is happening?" moments as well as "Oh, having hotdogs for fingers is TIGHT!"
"robot cat named sox, who is just the cutest little.... merchandise opportunity" 😂😂😂😻
Hey, a fellow Ginga fan! :D
“We’re gonna have this big twist where Zerg turns out to be an older Buzz”
“But didn’t we establish in Toy Story 2 that Zerg is his father?”
“Hey, shut up”
Why are you misspelling Zurg's name?
@@SeanWheeler100 Hey, shut up.
@@SeanWheeler100 zerg
@@EmpireToday2800 Zurg's name is supposed to be spelled with a U. Just look him up.
@@SeanWheeler100 cuz starcraft
My favorite part of any Pitch Meeting is the 3 seconds of "Spoiler Warning" that doesn't apply to me because I have no intentions of ever watching around 98% of the movies covered.
Not even “Birds of Prey” ?
Same!
for me that is the point. i now have a functional understanding of the movie, and saved more than an hour.
@@vidard9863 and 15-30 dollars if you were going to the movies.
The main problem I found was that characterisation and motivation was terrible. We needed a scene of Buzz getting given the mission by the commander. For that matter, what was the mission? No idea. Buzz would probably have been better as someone who'd done well their entire life which would work better in terms of being inflexible and wanting to fix his mistake (Although I have no idea what Buzz could have done differently, it was unavoidable not a mistake). If they did go with Buzz being initially bad as a cadet then give us a scene of H and him as cadets and why Buzz is a jerk now to new cadets.
Really it would have worked best if they threw this entire script away and made a pulpy space adventure instead, something like that Flash Gordon movie but with toystory branding.
To colonise the planet, I guess, and make a transport route to the Earth?
Yeah I just felt like there was a lot of vagueness. Like yeah the fact there was no clear mission, and how buzz's whole personality was finishing the obscure mission. We didn't really get any clue into his real motivations or why he does what he does. And then that stupid twist. It could have worked if, again, they had established some real motive. But they made him evil simply to woah the crowd, and it just ended up being boring and weak.
@@patron8597 That is a fantastic idea. Maybe in the Buzz sequel they'll go that direction!
@@JasonHauser125 no please. Don't give them ideas. No more sequels to a prequel! 😣
Watch the old one instead, "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, the adventure begins"
It's 20 years old, has a fraction of the budget, never aired in theaters, but it holds itself together really well as an "in-universe toy movie from the 90's".
Anyway I loved it as a kid !
Wow that plot sounds…..actually MORE confusing than interstellar. Add in the controversy about its messaging and only Ryan George could make this film sound entertaining. Dodged THAT bullet. Keep it up Mr Ryan!
I don't think people should ignore controversy, but this video is proof that even if the public didn't find it controversial, the story still sucked.
@@eugenetswong true the public should have intelligent objective as possible conversation about controversy while being comfortable with others respectfully disagreeing. It shouldn’t take a Pixar movie to make people start arguing. Problem it’s marketed to kids while having seemingly having an agenda
@@stanza77 THE KISS TOOK HALF A BLOODY SECOND. THAT IS IT.
There was nothing other than a tiny moment with a woman kissing a woman, which is exactly the same level as so many other movies meant for kids. Queer representation, ESPECIALLY when it's one tiny kiss, isn't an agenda.
@@ThornForTheWynn as I understand it the film has a clear anti father message from trustworthy sources. It’s not the kiss. Zootopia and Last Jedi have same sex couples they still grossed a billion. It’s banned in 14 countries, those other films aren’t.
@@stanza77 I completely agree with your reply to me.
I love that new "heyshutup" line that he's using now when producer guy points out a plot hole.
It's short term for "Can you please get all the way of my back about it?" 😂
@@professorx3060 Yep. "Hey, shut up" is the replacement. 😂
@@professorx3060 I prefer the long way around...
I’m not too excited about it
I actually miss "I'm going to need you get alllllllll the way off my back"
"Maybe the real mission...was the friends he made along the way."
*Producer visibly gags*
Nearly choking on your breakfast from laughing is TIGHT!
Um actually his name is Producer Guy
That wasn't even the movie's message though, lmao.
The first time I watched this I clicked off around 3:05 because I didn't want to much of the movie spoiled, since I kinda wanted to watch it.
After watching the movie I don't think it's a bad movie on its own, but it does a bad job of being a Buzzlighter movie with-in the Toy Story universe.
Zurg isn't Buzz's father, the green alien dudes don't even show up from Toy Story and there are a few important side characters that where never mentioned in Toy Story.
5:24 "Oooh big stretch buddy" has to become the new iconic line
Sox is basically "super easy barely an inconvenience" as a character
you make it sounds like sox is some sort of god
Deus Sox Machina
Oh really?
@@todd3143 is that a joke on deus ex machina, where a divinely efficient coincidence happens to solve a plot point? Never can be sure.
No that spells sebi
Occasionally I get envious of Ryan and his wholesome, used car salesman-look, but then I always remember that he actually has to watch and pay attention to these idiotic movies.
No he doesn't. That's what writers and unpaid interns are for.
Bro he had to watch the Star Wars Holiday special, that alone shows dedication
@@ZeroX7649 But that is exactly the same amount of suffering. Subjecting the help to these kinds of movies is not a benevolent act.
If you listen to his interview, he said that watching movies are no more fun for him, because he has to keep looking for plot holes and mistakes and such.
Did you actually see the movie? Or are you just parroting your favourite TH-cam critics?
I like to think Andy watched the show Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and that made him want the toy.