Mr. Jon, I thank you for all the great knowledge you share. This is important information considering all the turmoil in the world. I laugh at some of the comments expecting more efficiency and less waste. They don’t seem to understand that these are survival skills. Peace to you my friend, from Midwest USA!
This is basically a giant rocket stove with a drum around it. If you put a crucible on the top of that flame you could melt metal garbage like cans and cast them into useful tools.
I have seen and watched videos on TH-cam, trying to glean information on clean smoke free charcoal making, all other where blablablabla and poor kiln, difficult to understand systems. This one by You is clear with no ambiguity. Thanks verymuch
This is a great take on carbonisation of wood. I love the fact that I can actually apply this method without annoying my neighbours with rising smoke. Many thanks for making and sharing this video.
Its a gr8 technique. But carbon with max porosity happens between 350 to 500degrees. At 1000 odd degree u hv less porosity. Carbon sequestration is good at this temp but max below 500 degrees
Greetings from Ontario, Canada. This is very interesting. I will definitely try this in the next few months after I finish some other projects. Thank you very much! :-)
This is definitely the best charcoal making technique I've seen so far, and so simple basically anyone can do it. I think if you could use some of the heat that's escaping through the chimney it would be even better. Maybe heat some water with it, (several cubic meters:), or add a "sand battery" at the top to store it... Maybe I'll try that myself :) Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing the details. I've watched many similar videos, most from Thailand but none have English subtitles and it's difficult to use google translate. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the build in English. Best wishes.
Most efficient I've ever seen. The outgases enter the pipe at the bottom and are burned in the pipe, adding to the heat supplied by the device. Usually that wood gas is just wasted in other charcoal reactors.
A very ingenious idea. You have used a rocket stove to heat the wood for charcoal. It would be good to use the excess heat generated by the fire to use to heat a steam boiler for a generator or use to heat an earth oven for baking. I really enjoyed this, and it has given me ideas. Thank you.
Wow lot of heater@ It can be used for heating water for a pool. I was thinking of a wood oven design producing charcoal at the same time, with this technic I have a really an idea
Thanks for this video. You are correct, energy and fresh water will be in short supply in the future. How good will bamboo charcoal made with this technique be?
Thank you JJ for this. However, I would encourage you to also look into biogas, it's more sustainable. Wood is very expensive in our rural area and there's a ban to cut trees, so as an alternative we're looking into investing in biogas.
many trees are easy to coppice and return year after year. one such tree we use for this purpose is black locust, it's prolific, also in Texas a tree that is a nitrogen fixer and similiar to the black locus is the mesquite tree. This tree is very difficult to kill by coppicing so you can use a field of these trees indefinitely for such uses. Also they produce a pod that can be used to feed to chicken, both of the mentioned trees are good for this.
Hi JJ. Thanks ever so much for this excellent video. I tried this using palm kennel shells to make charcoal. All the charcoal around the pipe was very well burnt. The other half near the edges of the barrel not. The palm kennel filling in the barrel is much more dense than the wood. Do you have any idea as to how i can make it work? Thanks again for the great video!
Not JJ but here are some options: 1. Better/thicker insulation arround the barrel. This will help increase the temperatures further out inside the barrel. 2. More starting wood below the barrel. This allows the barrel to heat up more before all outside wood is burnt and the flame continues purely with the wood gas released through the bottom holes of the barrel. 3. Mix the kernels with wood or bamboo to decrease the density. Combinations of these can also help.
Dear @JonJandaiLifeisEasy This technique is way far better and simple for elderly farmers who have been working so hard in the village all their life. I've tried it with an elderly who is now about 70 years old a few days ago in the village. My goal is to help them in order to fulfill my life journey with my willingness and eagerness to ease towards sustainable lifestyle. The only hurdles I have experience is in my region our industry and technology is still far behind than in Thailand due to the reason known itself. It is a lot more affordable to get SS304 6" stainless steel pipe in Thailand which is 50% cheaper than I could get it here in Sarawak. Unless, I am buying in several tonnes shipping using containers. Thank you for sharing this. It took some courage and some capital to do this project. It cost me about US$500 to complete one set here in my region.
Hello Jan. Thank you for bringing good value to humanity. Can you confirm if this system will char rice husk? If not, can you look into an efficient way and share?
Well Done, rock wool might be more available & less expensive insulation: ROCKWOOL ROXUL SAFE products can withstand intense heat up to 2150°F (1177°C) without melting, producing smoke or propagating flames.
Hi Mr Jon thank you for sharing the videos Simple yet efficient method want to try for coconaut charcoal...👍 I am a bit curious about the hole in the pipe, could you please give a bit of explaination the purpose of the hole?
- It can last a few years if you use more often it will last longer. - we make charcoal from coconut shell quite a lot here. It is the best charcoal but we can't get a lot of charcoal . It is too hollow it will be better if we smash it so we can fill more in the kiln.
bro jon, you have wonderful community projects that i am thinking of replicating here in the Philippines. I am engaged in gardening but I do not own the farmlot, it is inside the school campus. You have said in your previous video for Life is Easy, that you started your planting project using your mother's small portion of farmlot. Then after several years you were able to purchase a bigger farmland through your savings. My question now are: 1. When did you started the Pun Pun Community? 2. How did you purchased the land? Do you have partner-investors? 3. How many hectares? 4. How and when did you involved people in your project? Do they came from the same locality or the people came from other places when you started?? Thank you bro jon, i am always watching all your videos, very informative.
1 we started PUNPUN 18 years ago. 2 I bought the land with my wife. We have no investors. 3It's about 9 acres 4People came to volunteer in the first months and stay for many years or until now. Most of people come from different part of the country and from many countries.
@@JonJandaiLifeisEasy Hi sir,can we come and join as a volunteer to learn about ur community and how it works and how to establish such community in my country (India) .
I’ve seen people make this kind of retort where an additional pipe is attached to the charcoal chamber that pipes the volatile gases out of the chamber and into the fire chamber. Have you tried this? It seems like it would help to keep the creosote formation down within the charcoal chamber while simultaneously increasing the heat of the fire. Great video👍
Hello Jon, this is a really great video and a great technique, thanks very much for sharing! How do you get the insulation material in a place like Thailand?
I have seen many different charcoal ovens and this is by far the best yet. I'm on an island in the Philippines and doubt I can get the layer of insulation here. Could the drum be in a mud brick tower and use sand as insulation?
I think that fiber-glass insulation could be used, it is essentially the same as ceramic insulation. Sand could probably be used as long as it was very dry. May be best to bake it first.
Many people use sand ash or mud bricks. All of them work fine but it was harder when we take the charcoal off. Try to find what you have is the best way. Cheapest, easiest is the best.
Thanks u a lot for giving clear explanation about the process of making charcoal. M'y question for you sir ,is to know thé way anybody want to make a lot of charcoal if WE wide thé capacity of thé main drum and give more dia to thé burner pipe will WE still get good result ? Once again thanks
you can also use bamboo or coconut fibers to make charcoal. basic scrap. you dont have to go out of your way to buy wood. some places may have tree landscaping companies just give you free wood because they dont want to go to a disposal facility.
Hi Jon Jandai. I built this according to your guidance and I have already made two batches of charcoal. However, I had one problem: I had a really hard time keeping the gases from escaping in the gap between the chimney and the top of the drum. I kept adding wet mud and it helped for a while but later the smoke had made it's way through it again. It seems like you guys were really good at sealing it up really good, but did you also have that challenge? Anyways, thanks a lot for sharing, this is what is awesome about youtube and people like you who share this content for us likeminded people
UPDATE. Made 5 batches of charcoal with this method- nice and dense quality. I realise that it is not possible to avoid the gases from escaping around the chimney without welding or other kinds of sealants. The pressure built up in the pyrolysis is quite high so it will escape in small cracks, By closer inspection I can see you guys had the same challenge. But I realise that it doesn't really matter. I stoppet worrying so much about some smoke escaping and just tried to reduce it. The charcoal came out really good anyways. It shouldn't matter anyways as long as most gas escape the bottom holes in the pipe and provide fuel for pyrolysing the wood
@@somatder When making char cloth and chared punk wood, we have always poked a small hole in our cans to vent gases. Some bushcrafters teach that no vent hole is needed and I believe this system also works because the tins they use are not airtight, allowing gasses to escape.
@@somatder I haven't built mine yet but I've noticed the escaping gas/smoke in several videos that use this design. What I plan on trying, based on what I've seen in some other videos, is to place a second short 'chimney' tube around the main pipe so that the smoke escaping from the pipe hole is guided up into the flame and efficiently burnt. The outer chimney can also have some air vents to draw further air to mic with the gases and help the burn.
Get a ceramic fibre cloth / blanket onto the area. The other idea was the how is not fully cut out but it is cut in this manner and clip it. th-cam.com/video/_tT8LhHQI08/w-d-xo.html
Sir jon, this is an awesome video. Just wanted to ask, When the fire starts, Do you keep putting small stick woods at the top to keep the fire burning? Or just at the start.
After you get the fire started, the heat starts baking the wood, and then the wood releases gases that enter the chimney through the small holes at the bottom. This continues until the wood releases all of these gases and the fire stops naturally.
He said 12 holes 1/4 of an inch..i think that is too small...in video the holes looks bigger, could someone please guide what should be the correct size?
He and his wife bought 9 acres and planted all sort of trees on it, capturing rainfall into quarter acre pond. So he converts some of trees into charcoal and purify his drinking water with it. The community he started eat from the land too. He also builds from clay+straw found on his land.
I was surprised to see a monk teaching people in your culture something so useful as this, western media does not portray Monks as good helpful contributors to society like seen here.
This is the cleanest and least wasted charcoal making technique I've ever seen on TH-cam. A huge respect bro
Mr. Jon, I thank you for all the great knowledge you share. This is important information considering all the turmoil in the world. I laugh at some of the comments expecting more efficiency and less waste. They don’t seem to understand that these are survival skills. Peace to you my friend, from Midwest USA!
This is basically a giant rocket stove with a drum around it. If you put a crucible on the top of that flame you could melt metal garbage like cans and cast them into useful tools.
I have seen and watched videos on TH-cam, trying to glean information on clean smoke free charcoal making, all other where blablablabla and poor kiln, difficult to understand systems. This one by You is clear with no ambiguity. Thanks verymuch
Awesome video👏👏 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge about making charcoal in an efficient way 👍👍
Excellent demonstration. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the another knowledge Mr. Jon ....👍🏼
This is a great take on carbonisation of wood. I love the fact that I can actually apply this method without annoying my neighbours with rising smoke.
Many thanks for making and sharing this video.
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Its a gr8 technique.
But carbon with max porosity happens between 350 to 500degrees. At 1000 odd degree u hv less porosity.
Carbon sequestration is good at this temp but max below 500 degrees
This man has such a peaceful calm voice really enjoyable to hear him speak.
Yeah, I think he must be a very peaceful man. Perhaps even a Buddhist monk.
Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
This is very interesting. I will definitely try this in the next few months after I finish some other projects.
Thank you very much! :-)
Thank you guys so much for sharing your knowledge with the world.❤
This is definitely the best charcoal making technique I've seen so far, and so simple basically anyone can do it.
I think if you could use some of the heat that's escaping through the chimney it would be even better.
Maybe heat some water with it, (several cubic meters:), or add a "sand battery" at the top to store it... Maybe I'll try that myself :)
Thank you for sharing.
Excellent information as usual,,waiting for the next video 👍
Thank you for sharing this best method ever seen👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks excellent information. Your knowledge is much appreciated 🙏🏾✌🏾💡❤️🌎❤️
Thank you for sharing the details. I've watched many similar videos, most from Thailand but none have English subtitles and it's difficult to use google translate. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the build in English. Best wishes.
Thanks for the video, very informative. I also use the coal for the garden, it helps save water and is good for the plants.
Fantastic knowledge, thank you for sharing! 👍👍👍✔✔✔✔💪💪💪
Thats the best example of rocket I've seen. Harness all that heat to heat water. Great job.
Think we can also bake or bisque pottery/ terracotta with the same process 😅 this technique was amazing 👍
Thank you very much for the video. I hope next time we can see how we can use the charcoal for cooking or for another applications.
I salute you sir. Fantastic job 👏 thanks for sharing us. Climate change addressed
very nice.. you can harness that fire too
Most efficient I've ever seen. The outgases enter the pipe at the bottom and are burned in the pipe, adding to the heat supplied by the device. Usually that wood gas is just wasted in other charcoal reactors.
Iam Abdul from India.....
Awesome job....🌹🌹
A very ingenious idea. You have used a rocket stove to heat the wood for charcoal. It would be good to use the excess heat generated by the fire to use to heat a steam boiler for a generator or use to heat an earth oven for baking. I really enjoyed this, and it has given me ideas. Thank you.
Or a thermal motor to run the fan that makes the rocket stove work better. Or a generator to charge batteries.
Dry frute ❤
Make graphite, make pizza
Never seen such an efficient system ...good job ❤
Mchisimas gracias gran material mi hermano un abrazo.
This method is very good. I was amazed to see the leaves come out without losing their original shape.
Thank you for this idea.
Wow, you could boil water for the whole village on that flame! Love it, I would like to make an explanation with more engineering thoughts.
Yes , we can put a heat Exchanger on top to heat air and feed the hot air from bottom
Very good idea! Smart people making smart invention.
Man of great prestige 😊👍
Amazing.. wow 😲😲😲😲 thank u
Fantastic very interesting 👍
Brilliant working idea.
Wow lot of heater@ It can be used for heating water for a pool. I was thinking of a wood oven design producing charcoal at the same time, with this technic I have a really an idea
Thank you for sharing
Excellent .... Thanks ...
Thanks for this video. You are correct, energy and fresh water will be in short supply in the future. How good will bamboo charcoal made with this technique be?
Thank you JJ for this. However, I would encourage you to also look into biogas, it's more sustainable. Wood is very expensive in our rural area and there's a ban to cut trees, so as an alternative we're looking into investing in biogas.
We have less trees in our area before but we plant more in the last 5 -7 years now we have more than we need.
I think we can use old woods from house demolished to make charcoal!
many trees are easy to coppice and return year after year. one such tree we use for this purpose is black locust, it's prolific, also in Texas a tree that is a nitrogen fixer and similiar to the black locus is the mesquite tree. This tree is very difficult to kill by coppicing so you can use a field of these trees indefinitely for such uses. Also they produce a pod that can be used to feed to chicken, both of the mentioned trees are good for this.
Brilliant idea
Mr. Jon, I’m trying to find some 6” diameter pipe. What I’m finding has 0.28 inch thick wall. Is that too thick/heavy?
Amazing technic thanks
Hello, are we able to make the center pipe as rectangular section instead of circular section ? Pls advice
Hi JJ. Thanks ever so much for this excellent video. I tried this using palm kennel shells to make charcoal. All the charcoal around the pipe was very well burnt. The other half near the edges of the barrel not. The palm kennel filling in the barrel is much more dense than the wood. Do you have any idea as to how i can make it work? Thanks again for the great video!
Not JJ but here are some options:
1. Better/thicker insulation arround the barrel. This will help increase the temperatures further out inside the barrel.
2. More starting wood below the barrel. This allows the barrel to heat up more before all outside wood is burnt and the flame continues purely with the wood gas released through the bottom holes of the barrel.
3. Mix the kernels with wood or bamboo to decrease the density.
Combinations of these can also help.
Did you feed the fire from the bottom after the sticks on the bottom rack burned out?
Can dry saw dust be better categorized using this method?
It's a big rocket stove. The heat should be used for any good use of melting or boiling. If it's just for cooking, biogas would be cheap and useful.
Dear @JonJandaiLifeisEasy
This technique is way far better and simple for elderly farmers who have been working so hard in the village all their life.
I've tried it with an elderly who is now about 70 years old a few days ago in the village. My goal is to help them in order to fulfill my life journey with my willingness and eagerness to ease towards sustainable lifestyle.
The only hurdles I have experience is in my region our industry and technology is still far behind than in Thailand due to the reason known itself. It is a lot more affordable to get SS304 6" stainless steel pipe in Thailand which is 50% cheaper than I could get it here in Sarawak. Unless, I am buying in several tonnes shipping using containers. Thank you for sharing this. It took some courage and some capital to do this project. It cost me about US$500 to complete one set here in my region.
Hello Jan. Thank you for bringing good value to humanity.
Can you confirm if this system will char rice husk? If not, can you look into an efficient way and share?
Making charcoal from rice husk is very hard to make it hot up to1,000 degree. It contain more tar.
May I know, hat is the disadvantage if we could only use 5" inches pipe instead?
Well Done, rock wool might be more available & less expensive insulation:
ROCKWOOL ROXUL SAFE products can withstand intense heat up to 2150°F (1177°C) without melting, producing smoke or propagating flames.
Thank you JJ
Thank you very much for the video!
How many times can you use the barrel?
Hi Mr Jon thank you for sharing the videos
Simple yet efficient method want to try for coconaut charcoal...👍
I am a bit curious about the hole in the pipe, could you please give a bit of explaination the purpose of the hole?
Thank for new charcoal practice, Mr Jon Jandai
-How long can this tool be used before it breaks ?
-Can it be used for making coconut shell charcoal?
- It can last a few years if you use more often it will last longer.
- we make charcoal from coconut shell quite a lot here. It is the best charcoal but we can't get a lot of charcoal . It is too hollow it will be better if we smash it so we can fill more in the kiln.
bro jon, you have wonderful community projects that i am thinking of replicating here in the Philippines. I am engaged in gardening but I do not own the farmlot, it is inside the school campus. You have said in your previous video for Life is Easy, that you started your planting project using your mother's small portion of farmlot. Then after several years you were able to purchase a bigger farmland through your savings.
My question now are:
1. When did you started the Pun Pun Community?
2. How did you purchased the land? Do you have partner-investors?
3. How many hectares?
4. How and when did you involved people in your project? Do they came from the same locality or the people came from other places when you started??
Thank you bro jon, i am always watching all your videos, very informative.
1 we started PUNPUN 18 years ago.
2 I bought the land with my wife. We have no investors.
3It's about 9 acres
4People came to volunteer in the first months and stay for many years or until now. Most of people come from different part of the country and from many countries.
@@JonJandaiLifeisEasy Hi sir,can we come and join as a volunteer to learn about ur community and how it works and how to establish such community in my country (India) .
Where do you get ceramic fiber?
I’ve seen people make this kind of retort where an additional pipe is attached to the charcoal chamber that pipes the volatile gases out of the chamber and into the fire chamber. Have you tried this? It seems like it would help to keep the creosote formation down within the charcoal chamber while simultaneously increasing the heat of the fire. Great video👍
that is whats happening . its why the 12 small holes are in the bottom of 6" pipe
Can we use coconut shell for this?
is the result makeing a charcoal or Biochar?
If I don't have insulation (ceramic fiber) , what should I do.@
Hello Jon, this is a really great video and a great technique, thanks very much for sharing! How do you get the insulation material in a place like Thailand?
you can check online.
I have seen many different charcoal ovens and this is by far the best yet.
I'm on an island in the Philippines and doubt I can get the layer of insulation here.
Could the drum be in a mud brick tower and use sand as insulation?
I think that fiber-glass insulation could be used, it is essentially the same as ceramic insulation.
Sand could probably be used as long as it was very dry. May be best to bake it first.
Many people use sand ash or mud bricks. All of them work fine but it was harder when we take the charcoal off. Try to find what you have is the best way. Cheapest, easiest is the best.
Can I do this for coconut shell?
Thanks u a lot for giving clear explanation about the process of making charcoal. M'y question for you sir ,is to know thé way anybody want to make a lot of charcoal if WE wide thé capacity of thé main drum and give more dia to thé burner pipe will WE still get good result ? Once again thanks
wood burned in this manner be used as biochar?
you can also use bamboo or coconut fibers to make charcoal. basic scrap. you dont have to go out of your way to buy wood. some places may have tree landscaping companies just give you free wood because they dont want to go to a disposal facility.
How long is fire burnning?
Please can I use this technique to carbonised sawdust?
ka pai 👌👍
How thick is the wall of the pipe? How many burns will the pipe last? Thank you for sharing the knowledge.
I am also wondering how thick should be the pipe and if it will have any effect efficiency
I'd go 1/8", and it will last fairly well, if its protected from rusting.
Hi Jon Jandai. I built this according to your guidance and I have already made two batches of charcoal. However, I had one problem: I had a really hard time keeping the gases from escaping in the gap between the chimney and the top of the drum. I kept adding wet mud and it helped for a while but later the smoke had made it's way through it again. It seems like you guys were really good at sealing it up really good, but did you also have that challenge? Anyways, thanks a lot for sharing, this is what is awesome about youtube and people like you who share this content for us likeminded people
UPDATE. Made 5 batches of charcoal with this method- nice and dense quality. I realise that it is not possible to avoid the gases from escaping around the chimney without welding or other kinds of sealants. The pressure built up in the pyrolysis is quite high so it will escape in small cracks, By closer inspection I can see you guys had the same challenge. But I realise that it doesn't really matter. I stoppet worrying so much about some smoke escaping and just tried to reduce it. The charcoal came out really good anyways. It shouldn't matter anyways as long as most gas escape the bottom holes in the pipe and provide fuel for pyrolysing the wood
Jen you should make clay mud. It would work. I was thinking of this for a clay kiln outside. I love this idea
@@somatder When making char cloth and chared punk wood, we have always poked a small hole in our cans to vent gases. Some bushcrafters teach that no vent hole is needed and I believe this system also works because the tins they use are not airtight, allowing gasses to escape.
@@somatder I haven't built mine yet but I've noticed the escaping gas/smoke in several videos that use this design. What I plan on trying, based on what I've seen in some other videos, is to place a second short 'chimney' tube around the main pipe so that the smoke escaping from the pipe hole is guided up into the flame and efficiently burnt. The outer chimney can also have some air vents to draw further air to mic with the gases and help the burn.
Get a ceramic fibre cloth / blanket onto the area.
The other idea was the how is not fully cut out but it is cut in this manner and clip it.
th-cam.com/video/_tT8LhHQI08/w-d-xo.html
Can this kiln be integrated with wood gasifier to produce fuel?
How much wood do you put in the brick oven? And how much is in the drum?
Do you give a link of charcoal making from jute stick?
Excellent
Cool!
Couldn't u collect the gas the wood is creating to run generator engines instead of just burning it off?
It conducts electricity or ceates it?!? ...great vid tytytyy
Please mention the output ratio of wood to charcoal in weight.
Well done you have made bio charcoal
Can anyone help me guys. How long does it take to get the charcoal totally cooked in this barrel? Please help
Much much better option than making charcoal in the ground 💚💛🧡
Awesome
based on you experience,
is this the most efficient method to make Charcoal ???
Where r u from sir ?
Sir jon, this is an awesome video. Just wanted to ask, When the fire starts, Do you keep putting small stick woods at the top to keep the fire burning? Or just at the start.
Just when we start it.
After you get the fire started, the heat starts baking the wood, and then the wood releases gases that enter the chimney through the small holes at the bottom. This continues until the wood releases all of these gases and the fire stops naturally.
Thank you.
He said 12 holes 1/4 of an inch..i think that is too small...in video the holes looks bigger, could someone please guide what should be the correct size?
Note another interesting technique is the gasifier technique, where you use the gas for cooking. No smoke, too. And you also produce charcoal.
Can I ask you a question? Did you sealed it for hours? Or leave it open? Thanks thanks for sharing your knowledge to us..
Yes we sealed it until the end.
I got a question. How fid you got so much land for the creation of the farm.
He and his wife bought 9 acres and planted all sort of trees on it, capturing rainfall into quarter acre pond. So he converts some of trees into charcoal and purify his drinking water with it. The community he started eat from the land too. He also builds from clay+straw found on his land.
Do you also light the wood under the kiln? or you light from top only?
From the top only.
Thank you
Can you share more specifications on the "ceramic isolation" please? To look for a similar product in my country
One brand name for the ceramic insulation is "kaowool"
@@HandfulOfTranquility how do you wrap the metal around the barrel?
Do you think you could use mud for the insulation?
Mud is not a good insulator. You could use vermiculite or perlite for example.
I was surprised to see a monk teaching people in your culture something so useful as this, western media does not portray Monks as good helpful contributors to society like seen here.
Yep friend. And guess who is losing out? Sad.