Only 2 mins in and I am already thankful that you give both imperial and metric units. I have a hard time with reviews only using imperial if they are from the USA. Good to see you acknowledge your viewers might not always be American.
@@brightmarksman1425 I bought their CRP pedals. Issues with the pedal brake feeling like so springy. A noticeable notchiness when slowly coming on and off the brake pedal. A design flaw which caused the pedal arms to munch through and ruin my anodised black aluminium profile to which it was mounted to. (Need to add a washer underneath to raise it 1mm) but damage was already done. Pedal plate is useless with so much flex and missing drill holes. Clutch starting squeaking like a mofo after a few days. It has been over 1 month, Moza keep you in the loop by saying "We will ge glad to help." "Give us more time to review your concerns" It has been weeks with no reply lol. I have tried calling them, emailing them, and messaging on their facebook.
@@Luftrille Refunded, and they let me keep my pedals which I sold for dirt cheap. However, this took months to happen, and they only reached out to me when they saw a negative comment by me on Boosted Media.
@@StatsGam4er Thats the issue with all these asian products. And why I rather not buy any of them. If anything, I would only buy it from a local distributor that will replace defect parts.
I can't believe that while Barry has become THE absolute benchmark for sim gear reviews, he has still to make any interview for RaceDepartment etc. that would be awesome imo
Very nice looking base and wheel, also very good video as always :) Small tip for Mr Barry, if you measure a mounting hole with your caliper and then zero it, you can measure the mounting holes from side to side and read the exact space between the holes and when you then close your caliper it will show you the diameter of the hole so you don't have to guess if its M5 or M6 thread :) Thx for your well made videos.
This guy is a clown. Wrecking stuff that could be used to teach children in underprivileged areas a skill that might lead to them becoming tradesmen or engineers. You're a suckup
As their wheels are rather expensive with not many options to choose from, they should be selling this base in a bundle with standard 6x70mm quickrelease included, so the budget buyers can just use any aftermarket car steering wheel. Would make it much more interesting option than fanatecs csl dd money wise ;)
@@crawfordbrown75 Another 50... absolutely yes ;) You can get those quickreleases separately, but usually its all aftermarket tuners orientated car parts upwards 100$ range.
There is a wheelbase from the Company CAMMUS they have for 600$ a 15nm direct drive motor with an actuall nrg typ qr. I changed mine to an inexpensiv qr1 for about 50$. love this wheelbase
Liked and subscribed. Is Sim Racing Garage going to review the CSL DD 8Nm? I feel the CSL DD, R9 and Simagic Alpha mini are going to be the three big entry level DD base units. It would be nice to see a CSL DD review as I can see videos for the CSL Elite and CSL Clubsport 2.5 but not the CSL DD
@@JP-xd6fm different price brackets again, i think simucube is the benchmark all of the wheelbases are measured from. The Simagic Alpha and Alpha U seem to be getting closer to the simucube range now.
How is it in other games, could the notchiness be due to the lower FFB frequency in iRacing? If so, it could be solved with software such as irffb to upsample the FFB.
Warning! All these TH-cam videos are great and interesting. The one thing they don’t do is inform you what their products are like to live with over a period of time. If you wish to have a happy and content life please take my advise and look at the FANATEC’s own Forum in regards to all the issues they have and their terrible customer service. I have one word to the question should you purchase FANATEC products? DONT. I would have had the same amount of problems with a real race car.. On a lighter note Im very grateful FANATEC do not build motor vehicles
love your reviews I have just mounted mine and so far i am loving it, The wheel feels and looks great and the base has plenty of feel I think Moza are doing a good job had no problem and arrived well packaged with no damage
MOZA must have updated something since this review - I just received the R9 V2 & GS wheel yesterday. There is zero “notchiness” now. I was concerned when I ordered MOZA gear after seeing this review, and I’m glad there was nothing to be worried about. I am still trying to get more warning before my tires slip or lock up, though. If anyone has tips on which setting to tweak to gain that, I’d appreciate hearing it. Enjoy the gear, folks!
@@gilgamesh8888 (I ordered direct from MOZA.) BTW, I tried MOZA R9 settings by a few TH-cam reviewers, and this guy’s settings felt the best to me. My settings are based on SIm Racing Garage’s.
Great review as usual can't beat the detail you get. Mine has just arrived, love the increased FFB compared to my G29. The question I have is around Wheel Settings in ACC. GT is set at 540 but if I am using, say a Porsche which has a recommend setting of 800 in ACC, do I need to change to 800 or does the having the 'synchronous toggled ON take care of this?
Hey Barry, I have a idea for a show. How about setting up your seating and pedal position. Some people have do it already, but your the technician for all things sim related. And I think your view points on seating, steering wheel and pedal position would help alot of people. Thanks man
Hi, I have a simucube 2 and I rlly love this formula rim, is there a way to use it with a simucube or a vrs dfp, also is so much cheaper than cube or ascher rivals, thanks
Afraid not, i am speaking with Moza about doing this but they are concentrating on their cheaper wheels and then accesories range before they look in to making the wheel compatible with other brands wheelbases
@@Luftrille Very good value for money, the axis does not move, the qr is excellent, the finish is rather good without being excellent. feeling level is very good, since this video moza has improved the firmware. I had to deal with the after sale service because of an update, very reactive and very serious. Since I changed equipment for a simucube pro because I have an offer not to miss on used market but I admit that between the 2, apart from the power there is not much difference in feeling.
@@Luftrille I don't know the simagic but I think it will be very close, in terms of finish the simagic seems a little better but is more expensive, you also have to take into account the after-sales service policy, that's why I 've been to moza.
Great review. Just my 10 cents worth here but the grip seams are no different to Fanatec OEM grips just so we get a fair comparison. The third party grips Barry was referring to are made by me at Pineapple Grips in the UK (Fanatec and SRM). We have never had one complaint about the seam so I think it may just be Barry levels of OCD here 😁 We will be adding Moza third party grips to our range very soon.
@@fastissimo6777 The seam gap Barry is referring to is not caused by material being genuine Alcantara or not. We use genuine Alcantara but you would have to ask Moza to confirm what they are using. There are otter material producers who make faux suede on par with Alcantara’s faux suede.
The R9 base looks like a previous Xbox design. I actually prefer this over old others’ old clique appearances. Hardware seems neat and well engineered. GS wheel is 300mm in diameter and comes with backlit and metal quick release. I’m gonna preorder this bundle!
Hi ! Can this base play old games like Forza Motorsport 7 and Horizon 3 (three) with Telemetry and FFB ? I have checked the support page on MOZA website - all bases have full support only for: Assetto Corsa (and Competizione), iRacing, RaceRoom Racing, Carx drift racing online. Other games needs to be manually configured OR is not supported.
Hi Barry, Love your reviews, in-depth, clear arguments for and against, great process and fair overal assessments without financial incentives to lean either way. I've seen an unboxing of the R9 and mounting hardware was included, however the unboxer only found them by shaking the box as it was somewhat hidden. Perhaps your review unit did not come with them.
I need everyone's opinion on this : Is it better to buy this combo instead of the Fanatec CSL DD + McLaren GT3 wheel ? I know the formula would compare much more to the GS wheel but for the use I have the McLaren would be enough. The price difference totals to +200 euros for the Moza equipment. Please let me know !
Honestly its all preference, the Fanatec wheels arent the same quality level as the GS wheel is. That said there are budget wheels coming in a few weeks for the R9 meaning there will be more options probably in the same bracket as the Fanatec products your thinking about, if you can stretch for the GS wheel its an amazing piece of kit.
This is just a message to let you know the MOZA Racing is a total nightmare if you have any issues with their products. I bought an R9 base and a Formula one wheel and both of these products came with an important number of issues. After weeks of talking to their support, which it is deplorable, I'm probably force to re-start the dispute with the help of my bank in order to get part of the money they want to keep. You really don't want to deal with people like this. They are just doing whatever the want and deciding what to pay me back. I'm looking for the possibility of putting a legal complaint agains this company. Will be talking to my bank and will be looking to my rights on this situation to make sure I do what I can to get the full reimbursement of my initial order which they informed me is not going to be the case. So please, in order to save you from getting into this hell, stay away from this company. If anyone wants to get more details or even have a call with me I will be more than happy to explain the full story I'm going through with this organization.
what if you put 2 more flat screens one one left side and one on right side more like a car 49 inch curved being the windshield and the flat screens being left & right side windows......i have not seen any body do this yet?????????
It can moza have released a hub for around $ 50 and you plus the rim into that instead of the wheel base. It has taken them awhile but slowly but surely moza are expanding their range and compatibility. Maybe not as quickly as we would like but they are getting there give them another 5 years and I am sure they will be as versatile as other brands that have been in the market longer than moza.
@@lordomacron3719 didn't know that, it's super cool! I have an R9 now but I was looking into the somatic wheel bases for more torque (the moza high torque ones are way too bulky for my setup)... But I didn't want to lose the steering wheel, as I love the design and useability. Great news, thanks!
@@FAB1150 here is Sim Racing Garage video on the hub. th-cam.com/video/IZkOoQFrZJ4/w-d-xo.html Hope it helps I’m still new to sim racing so I’m still learning myself. But I chose moza as it fit my budget nicely with the r9. I think I will upgrade one day to a higher nm base but first I need to build a little more muscle to handle it. I think this is a consideration that many forget if you have not trained to be a race driver the higher force bases are likely a little too much to handle for newcomers to the hobby. I’m a tall and thin never really exercised much outside of walking my dog. So my arm strength was not ready for high nm bases after trying out a 20nm one at a exhibition. Hence I started out with the r9.
NO sim racer we are not all different i want the exact same setting as you do its how I can learn to correct my mistake. :) Why would i want my own crap setting? When your setting is the most experience? 😚☺☺😚
Hello guys if anyone can help me with GS steering wheel. So today I got mine. I plug it everything but when I turn the wheel nothing happens. When I press a button it looks like it gives signal on pit house app but not on the game. I go to f1 22 to assign buttons and no one works. Should I check if I miss connect something. Please if anyone can tell me cause it drives me nuts
Great looking wheel. Wish that in the future companies make wheels to be cross compatible with perhaps interchsngable qr s and bluetooth for the electronics. Ive got a fanatec dd and the formula wheel but would love this wheel for my collection
I have a question for the experts. I would gladly replace the wheel base with a DD wheel base and the steering wheel too. When it comes to pedals, I currently have a Thrustmaster T-LCM model. These are pedals with a load cell based brake pedal. They're great for me right now. They can be connected as a standalone unit to a PC via a USB port, without the Thrustmaster base. Would this make it possible to use the MOZA R9 V2 DD base and the MOZA steering wheel with these pedals? Will such a combo work / be seen in games like Assetto Corsa, ACC, Automobilista 2, Project Cars 2, or the upcoming Forza Motorsport 8???
What data does the bluetooth connection carry from wheel to base and/or vise versa? Am I gonna worry that when i press a button, it uses a bluetooth connectivity to send the data to the base then to the pc? Rather than through the pins?
Thanks for putting this out there, have seen this base and wheel and wanna buy it and this helps solidify my choice. One question though: what do you mean by "notchiness"? Like a deadzone right in the middle of the steering angle where it takes 1 or 2 degrees for it to actually start turning or more of a lighter feeling at that area? Thanks!
@@Menthor3 When I look up ''Notchy'' I meanly get definitions involving a manual transmission : "difficult to use because the lever has to be moved accurately (as if into a narrow notch)". I have found a dictionary website that uses synonyms for the word ''Notchy'' and those are ''not smooth; jerky". I assume the middle part moves in a rather jerky manner compared to the rest of the forces felt when steering.
@@bennson13 ah I understand. Thank you for taking the time explaining! Now that I ordered the wheel myself, I will inevitably experience the "notchiness" myself anyway ;)
@@bennson13 I think I got it, to me it would feel like my g29 wheel when I put too much FFB on it, you can feel the gear teeth when turning the wheel like little spikes of resistance. In a way the FFB has a chainsaw feel instead of the expected linear but this could be due to iRacing doing weird things due to it's low FFB refresh rate. It would be nice to test it on ACC or rFactor 2 for example
@@bennson13 i think he meant the feel of the seperations of the magnets inside the motor. When the base is of and you turn the wheel you can feel the single magnets, thr seperations and the 'jump' between them. Usually it should disapear as soon as you turn the base on and use it in game. Sometimes some of this can stay and you may feel it while in game.
@Sim Racing Garage Is there a way I can email you some pictures I want to pick your brain on the TGT2. I bought it cheap with claims it didn’t work, but it turns out the turbo power supply was bad. I took the one from my tsxw and used on the tgt2 and it works perfectly. But from trouble shooting I noticed some visible frayed wire inside the vent on the top right where you can see the motor. It’s only a little, it looks spliced into the main wire to the motor, almost like it just didn’t get all the way into the harness. I took pictures and wanted to share it with you. I did open it up (using your tgt video as a guide) and wrapped the visible wire with electric tape, and everything seems to work great. I just want to be sure what was going on with that wire
Just a piece of advise for anyone thinking about buying anything from Moza Racing. I hope that this is not the wrong place to add this, in case it's not feel free to delete it. I'm not going to give all details about the current situation but I'm force to bring American Express to a legal claim agains this company for totally ignoring several issues with their R9 and the FSR Formula Wheel that I bought a few weeks ago. The main message here is that if you get into troubles with their products you could receive the same unacceptable support I'm receiving which it is currently been totally ignored. The base and wheel are failing since day one. I have been supplying videos and telling them about the shifting issues and the noise coming from the base and they are basically not acting as you will expect (last news received 7 days ago). There are multiple issues with the base and the wheel.... tried all kind of things to make them work but they are somehow damage or something went wrong on the assembling process. This is just a message to let you guys know that you could be facing the same level of support. In case of anyone wanting to know more let me know. I can show you the videos that are showing some of the issues I'm dealing with.
Does anyone know with the wireless wheel connected, what does it show on the PC . Does it show just the base or does it show the wheel and base separate ?
I'm buying a golf Sim right now. And obviously as a viewer of your channel I'm doing extensive research. Boy you don't know what you've got until it's gone. No one does videos like you on that stuff..... Or possibly on anything. Thank you !
Hi Barry. Another great review as always. I’m in the market for a new wheel having really taken to sim racing. I have a play seat and Logitech g29 wheel currently but want to make the jump to direct drive. Whilst appreciating the subjective nature of wheels, settings etc, I’d really appreciate your thoughts on the best wheel (in your opinion) to go for? Budget is £1500 gbp and it’ll be used on pc for I-racing and PS5 for gt7 and f1 22. I’ve been looking at fanatic and Logitech true force but am open to other brands Thank you in advance Gareth
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Only 2 mins in and I am already thankful that you give both imperial and metric units.
I have a hard time with reviews only using imperial if they are from the USA. Good to see you acknowledge your viewers might not always be American.
I won the R16 and the GS wheel and pedals on IRacing . They told me it would get shipped out in 2 weeks.
Nice to see some solid reviews on MOZA
Brooo that’s so live
@@FijisSimExperience but not sure if I understand your comment?
I will do a independent review as a new user to a DD from a g27 home made rig to a Rseat 1 and more . Fallow me to see how it goes
@@WiIdFx it means that’s really cool you won that wheel and pedals sorry I forgot not everyone understands the way I talk lol
@@FijisSimExperience LoL..... thanks
Would you say SImagic Mini is better or feels like an upgrade from the Moza 9?
What a beautiful piece of engineering. I'd love if moza got into the flight sim community as we need this level of quality there desperately!
I just had a horrible experience with Moza. Id stay clear from them. ESPECIALLY, if you have an issue with your product.
@@StatsGam4er what was the problem ?
@@brightmarksman1425 I bought their CRP pedals. Issues with the pedal brake feeling like so springy. A noticeable notchiness when slowly coming on and off the brake pedal. A design flaw which caused the pedal arms to munch through and ruin my anodised black aluminium profile to which it was mounted to. (Need to add a washer underneath to raise it 1mm) but damage was already done. Pedal plate is useless with so much flex and missing drill holes. Clutch starting squeaking like a mofo after a few days.
It has been over 1 month, Moza keep you in the loop by saying "We will ge glad to help." "Give us more time to review your concerns"
It has been weeks with no reply lol. I have tried calling them, emailing them, and messaging on their facebook.
@@Luftrille Refunded, and they let me keep my pedals which I sold for dirt cheap. However, this took months to happen, and they only reached out to me when they saw a negative comment by me on Boosted Media.
@@StatsGam4er Thats the issue with all these asian products. And why I rather not buy any of them. If anything, I would only buy it from a local distributor that will replace defect parts.
I can't believe that while Barry has become THE absolute benchmark for sim gear reviews, he has still to make any interview for RaceDepartment etc. that would be awesome imo
i just want to see him race lol
I think Barry is doing a great job NOT providing any interviews for sites such as Racedepartment to keep his absolute indepedency.
@@bobykim5311 interviews still keep your independecy it just promotes your channel
you're both right, I'd just like to know better the man behind the legend ;)
@@_xndrzt ask him to drop a load in ur mouth
Very nice looking base and wheel, also very good video as always :) Small tip for Mr Barry, if you measure a mounting hole with your caliper and then zero it, you can measure the mounting holes from side to side and read the exact space between the holes and when you then close your caliper it will show you the diameter of the hole so you don't have to guess if its M5 or M6 thread :) Thx for your well made videos.
This guy is a clown. Wrecking stuff that could be used to teach children in underprivileged areas a skill that might lead to them becoming tradesmen or engineers. You're a suckup
Sorry bro. Wrong video. Barry rules. Haha
As their wheels are rather expensive with not many options to choose from, they should be selling this base in a bundle with standard 6x70mm quickrelease included, so the budget buyers can just use any aftermarket car steering wheel. Would make it much more interesting option than fanatecs csl dd money wise ;)
Yeah I agree but how much would you be willing to spend? Another $60? (£50)
@@crawfordbrown75 Another 50... absolutely yes ;) You can get those quickreleases separately, but usually its all aftermarket tuners orientated car parts upwards 100$ range.
@@kowalski3892 yeah man I recently bought a D1spec V2 QR for £70
I just got a simagic alpha mini and wish it came with a QR
@@crawfordbrown75 Maybe it's just your distributor, but the Alpha Mini generally does sell with the option to include the QR or not
There is a wheelbase from the Company CAMMUS they have for 600$ a 15nm direct drive motor with an actuall nrg typ qr. I changed mine to an inexpensiv qr1 for about 50$. love this wheelbase
Liked and subscribed. Is Sim Racing Garage going to review the CSL DD 8Nm? I feel the CSL DD, R9 and Simagic Alpha mini are going to be the three big entry level DD base units. It would be nice to see a CSL DD review as I can see videos for the CSL Elite and CSL Clubsport 2.5 but not the CSL DD
Must have had an issue with Fanatec to not be reviewing the most requested base!
This, the Simagic Alpha Mini or the CSL DD 8nm?
I’m selling my TS300 and looking to upgrade to a DD
If there is no budget issues between the three then the Simagic Alpha mini right now is the best of the three, its also the more expensive though.
@@benllewellyn1888 What about beetween Simagic and Simcube?, thanks
@@JP-xd6fm different price brackets again, i think simucube is the benchmark all of the wheelbases are measured from. The Simagic Alpha and Alpha U seem to be getting closer to the simucube range now.
@@benllewellyn1888 Thanks, yes I checked the prices and it's quite a lot.
What you could recommend to get for 1500€ ish ?
Im having a hard time choosing between this and the Thrustmaster T818. You did a review on both, which one would you choose?
Me too.... Made your choice yet?
@@MrBreakthompson yes i went with the t818, and have not regretted it. Its really great !
How is it in other games, could the notchiness be due to the lower FFB frequency in iRacing? If so, it could be solved with software such as irffb to upsample the FFB.
Warning!
All these TH-cam videos are great and interesting. The one thing they don’t do is inform you what their products are like to live with over a period of time.
If you wish to have a happy and content life please take my advise and look at the FANATEC’s own Forum in regards to all the issues they have and their terrible customer service.
I have one word to the question should you purchase FANATEC products? DONT.
I would have had the same amount of problems with a real race car..
On a lighter note Im very grateful FANATEC do not build motor vehicles
love your reviews
I have just mounted mine and so far i am loving it, The wheel feels and looks great and the base has plenty of feel I think Moza are doing a good job had no problem and arrived well packaged with no damage
Hi Gary, could you share a bit about how you feel the ffb, the details, etc.? Thanks!
MOZA must have updated something since this review - I just received the R9 V2 & GS wheel yesterday. There is zero “notchiness” now. I was concerned when I ordered MOZA gear after seeing this review, and I’m glad there was nothing to be worried about. I am still trying to get more warning before my tires slip or lock up, though. If anyone has tips on which setting to tweak to gain that, I’d appreciate hearing it. Enjoy the gear, folks!
I was think about picking a R9 V2 up. Where did you order from?
@@gilgamesh8888 (I ordered direct from MOZA.) BTW, I tried MOZA R9 settings by a few TH-cam reviewers, and this guy’s settings felt the best to me. My settings are based on SIm Racing Garage’s.
@@TBolt1 do you mind giving us all the settings? SRG is going back and forth a lot with changing the settings etc
Great review as usual can't beat the detail you get. Mine has just arrived, love the increased FFB compared to my G29. The question I have is around Wheel Settings in ACC. GT is set at 540 but if I am using, say a Porsche which has a recommend setting of 800 in ACC, do I need to change to 800 or does the having the 'synchronous toggled ON take care of this?
In the pithouse 480 and ingame 800-900 thats the sweetspot for acc
The transmitter on the back of the base is most likely Bluetooth, for communication with the application on a smartphone
Maybe the oscillations could decrease if you set the auto ffb strength in Iracing's black box?
@Sim Racing Garage, Can you post your final settings in Pithouse that you ended up with? Thanks!
I already have a different dd but i like to see other equipment, especially new ones on the market
Hey Barry, I have a idea for a show. How about setting up your seating and pedal position. Some people have do it already, but your the technician for all things sim related. And I think your view points on seating, steering wheel and pedal position would help alot of people.
Thanks man
A suggestion, you should maybe do a 'real cost' feature, estimating how much it would cost them to manufacture.
I got spoiled with the DD2 and SC2Pro. Not sure I could pull the trigger on 9nm
i mean with SC2Pro why would you downgrade to 9nm moza?
Hi, I have a simucube 2 and I rlly love this formula rim, is there a way to use it with a simucube or a vrs dfp, also is so much cheaper than cube or ascher rivals, thanks
Afraid not, i am speaking with Moza about doing this but they are concentrating on their cheaper wheels and then accesories range before they look in to making the wheel compatible with other brands wheelbases
39:29 how do you get the gold quick release one? mine is black
the wheelbase now looks like a Fanatec product because everyone hated the orange rich guy lambo ricer look but now it looks like a Fanatec product lol
Hi between Moza and Simagic...which is better?
Hi guys..already have a used M10 simagic. Works great
when your sim rig costs more than a track car
iç want you to test logitech pro dd wheel and test trueforce effect !!! PLEASE !!!
Please review CAMMUS 15Nm Direct Drive
I own one and would love to watch Barry take it apart. I'd be interested in his opinion on it, particularly if he considers the sub $500 price point
I ordered mine this week, delivery in 15 days, can't wait!
@@Luftrille Very good value for money, the axis does not move, the qr is excellent, the finish is rather good without being excellent. feeling level is very good, since this video moza has improved the firmware. I had to deal with the after sale service because of an update, very reactive and very serious. Since I changed equipment for a simucube pro because I have an offer not to miss on used market but I admit that between the 2, apart from the power there is not much difference in feeling.
@@Luftrille I don't know the simagic but I think it will be very close, in terms of finish the simagic seems a little better but is more expensive, you also have to take into account the after-sales service policy, that's why I 've been to moza.
Great review. Just my 10 cents worth here but the grip seams are no different to Fanatec OEM grips just so we get a fair comparison.
The third party grips Barry was referring to are made by me at Pineapple Grips in the UK (Fanatec and SRM). We have never had one complaint about the seam so I think it may just be Barry levels of OCD here 😁
We will be adding Moza third party grips to our range very soon.
So this is not genuine Alcantara ?
@@fastissimo6777 The seam gap Barry is referring to is not caused by material being genuine Alcantara or not. We use genuine Alcantara but you would have to ask Moza to confirm what they are using. There are otter material producers who make faux suede on par with Alcantara’s faux suede.
Good to know, if I need to replace mine. People all over brag on the quality of your grips!
Looking forward to it. Hope you will make some rubber ones as these are best for racing without gloves for me. Will keep an eye out on your products.
Yeeees thank you so much I’ve been waiting this video is gonna make my decision between this and tspc
The R9 base looks like a previous Xbox design. I actually prefer this over old others’ old clique appearances. Hardware seems neat and well engineered. GS wheel is 300mm in diameter and comes with backlit and metal quick release. I’m gonna preorder this bundle!
Definitely choose this over the TS-PC
@@Sithhy TS-PC is not a DD ... how can you compare them ?
@@fastissimo6777 You don't. That's why I said he should go for the Moza
TS-PC is not a DD and the prices are not the same range ... how can you even compare them ?
by this video I just ordered this base, cz I really want to try it and th tx base is are crap vs it, love your videos!
@sim racing garage, what is your wheel of choice though Barry? What would you choose 10/10 times if you could choose anything?
I thought I was losing my mind and my man at the sim racing garage had DAS system but I realized its his entire seat moving LOL
Hi ! Can this base play old games like Forza Motorsport 7 and Horizon 3 (three) with Telemetry and FFB ? I have checked the support page on MOZA website - all bases have full support only for: Assetto Corsa (and Competizione), iRacing, RaceRoom Racing, Carx drift racing online. Other games needs to be manually configured OR is not supported.
Simtrecs stil going strong on the rig
How does it compare to CSL DD? Is it more durable?
Hi Barry,
Love your reviews, in-depth, clear arguments for and against, great process and fair overal assessments without financial incentives to lean either way.
I've seen an unboxing of the R9 and mounting hardware was included, however the unboxer only found them by shaking the box as it was somewhat hidden.
Perhaps your review unit did not come with them.
He doesn't use review units. He will only review something when it is publicly available.
Hi,
thanks for this video !
my GS wheel present a problem on the right stick.
can you tell me if it's possible to change this stick my self ?
When this vid was produced moza's QC was shocking FYI
I just got my r9 toast and have no idea what he means about notchiness. Mine is perfectly smooth. Mb fixed?
I need everyone's opinion on this : Is it better to buy this combo instead of the Fanatec CSL DD + McLaren GT3 wheel ? I know the formula would compare much more to the GS wheel but for the use I have the McLaren would be enough. The price difference totals to +200 euros for the Moza equipment. Please let me know !
Honestly its all preference, the Fanatec wheels arent the same quality level as the GS wheel is. That said there are budget wheels coming in a few weeks for the R9 meaning there will be more options probably in the same bracket as the Fanatec products your thinking about, if you can stretch for the GS wheel its an amazing piece of kit.
Does anyone know if the settings Barry uses here are still applicable for the R9 V2 and modern Pit House software?
I'm curious what your favourite DD / equipment is Barry after all these years of testing? If money is no object?
are you looking at any Asertek reviews, namely their Forte and Invicta pedals - would be very interested in those
Sorry Asetek
Don't come much more thorough than this! Looks like a fairly good effort from MOZA
Hey Barry, have you or will you share what your daily driven rig consists of?
Can you please make a review for the CSL DD
Barry, Do you prefer the top mount for Direct Drive bases instead of the thru-mount type that the your Simucube Pro uses?
what do you think barry csl dd or R9?
How’d you manage to change the color of the backlit buttons? I’ve been searching Moza Pit House but can’t seem to find it..
Just ordered a GS for my R9...now I need pedals. ANy suggestions, thx!
Fanatec V3 is what I'm using.
Very cool. Denke es ist kein schlechtes Produkt💪
I get a weird deja-vu feeling seeing this review.
Be very weary of Moza Racing everyone. Bought one of their products and had issues with it since day one. Moza refused to even help me.
This is just a message to let you know the MOZA Racing is a total nightmare if you have any issues with their products. I bought an R9 base and a Formula one wheel and both of these products came with an important number of issues. After weeks of talking to their support, which it is deplorable, I'm probably force to re-start the dispute with the help of my bank in order to get part of the money they want to keep.
You really don't want to deal with people like this.
They are just doing whatever the want and deciding what to pay me back. I'm looking for the possibility of putting a legal complaint agains this company. Will be talking to my bank and will be looking to my rights on this situation to make sure I do what I can to get the full reimbursement of my initial order which they informed me is not going to be the case.
So please, in order to save you from getting into this hell, stay away from this company. If anyone wants to get more details or even have a call with me I will be more than happy to explain the full story I'm going through with this organization.
Please make a CSL DD review.
what if you put 2 more flat screens one one left side and one on right side more like a car
49 inch curved being the windshield and the flat screens being left & right side windows......i have not seen any body do this yet?????????
I absolutely love how the wheel looks, I wish it could be used with any base
It can moza have released a hub for around $ 50 and you plus the rim into that instead of the wheel base. It has taken them awhile but slowly but surely moza are expanding their range and compatibility. Maybe not as quickly as we would like but they are getting there give them another 5 years and I am sure they will be as versatile as other brands that have been in the market longer than moza.
@@lordomacron3719 didn't know that, it's super cool! I have an R9 now but I was looking into the somatic wheel bases for more torque (the moza high torque ones are way too bulky for my setup)... But I didn't want to lose the steering wheel, as I love the design and useability. Great news, thanks!
@@FAB1150 here is Sim Racing Garage video on the hub.
th-cam.com/video/IZkOoQFrZJ4/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps I’m still new to sim racing so I’m still learning myself.
But I chose moza as it fit my budget nicely with the r9. I think I will upgrade one day to a higher nm base but first I need to build a little more muscle to handle it.
I think this is a consideration that many forget if you have not trained to be a race driver the higher force bases are likely a little too much to handle for newcomers to the hobby. I’m a tall and thin never really exercised much outside of walking my dog. So my arm strength was not ready for high nm bases after trying out a 20nm one at a exhibition. Hence I started out with the r9.
NO sim racer we are not all different i want the exact same setting as you do its how I can learn to correct my mistake. :) Why would i want my own crap setting? When your setting is the most experience? 😚☺☺😚
Hello guys if anyone can help me with GS steering wheel. So today I got mine. I plug it everything but when I turn the wheel nothing happens. When I press a button it looks like it gives signal on pit house app but not on the game. I go to f1 22 to assign buttons and no one works. Should I check if I miss connect something. Please if anyone can tell me cause it drives me nuts
Hello (happy new year). Question : if you had to, would you choose the DD Moza R5 or the Thrustmaster TS-PC servo base ? Thanks in advance.
Your simrig leans back while braking? Shouldn't it lean forward?
Having reviewed the R9 and the Alpha Mini, which would you recommend?
I just bought the R9 and GS wheel. But what’s a good setting for racing Ovals??
Great looking wheel. Wish that in the future companies make wheels to be cross compatible with perhaps interchsngable qr s and bluetooth for the electronics. Ive got a fanatec dd and the formula wheel but would love this wheel for my collection
In a perfect world man...would be great though!
hello , since my r 9 heats up a lot, after about 40 minutes exceeds 40 ° you can use it without the lid behind? Thank you
Hi there, can you please make a video for Moza R12 wheel base?
I have a question for the experts. I would gladly replace the wheel base with a DD wheel base and the steering wheel too. When it comes to pedals, I currently have a Thrustmaster T-LCM model. These are pedals with a load cell based brake pedal. They're great for me right now. They can be connected as a standalone unit to a PC via a USB port, without the Thrustmaster base. Would this make it possible to use the MOZA R9 V2 DD base and the MOZA steering wheel with these pedals? Will such a combo work / be seen in games like Assetto Corsa, ACC, Automobilista 2, Project Cars 2, or the upcoming Forza Motorsport 8???
Yes, without any issues. I use R9 V2 with T-LCM pedals.
Question do those pins on the quick release that connect to the base.. if one or two were to brake would it still power and operate the same?
Make their own Pattern?? Why????
So now I have to Drill or Buy your Adaptor.
For no reason. Smh
oscillations - so drifting is not possible with this wheelbase? Maybe handsoff protection doing this?
What data does the bluetooth connection carry from wheel to base and/or vise versa? Am I gonna worry that when i press a button, it uses a bluetooth connectivity to send the data to the base then to the pc? Rather than through the pins?
great video, i also have a small italian sim racing channel, but it's more like f1!
hey would you mind sharing info about your cockpit it would be very helpful ❤
you dial back the FFB curve to get the oscillations out completely. Love the channel!
Thanks for a great review 👍
Hey guys, will the GS Steering Wheel fit with a 6x70mm socket? Or which quickrelease adapter i do need ? Please help
Thanks for putting this out there, have seen this base and wheel and wanna buy it and this helps solidify my choice. One question though: what do you mean by "notchiness"? Like a deadzone right in the middle of the steering angle where it takes 1 or 2 degrees for it to actually start turning or more of a lighter feeling at that area? Thanks!
Was also wondering. Maybe someone can explain?
@@Menthor3 When I look up ''Notchy'' I meanly get definitions involving a manual transmission : "difficult to use because the lever has to be moved accurately (as if into a narrow notch)". I have found a dictionary website that uses synonyms for the word ''Notchy'' and those are ''not smooth; jerky". I assume the middle part moves in a rather jerky manner compared to the rest of the forces felt when steering.
@@bennson13 ah I understand. Thank you for taking the time explaining!
Now that I ordered the wheel myself, I will inevitably experience the "notchiness" myself anyway ;)
@@bennson13 I think I got it, to me it would feel like my g29 wheel when I put too much FFB on it, you can feel the gear teeth when turning the wheel like little spikes of resistance. In a way the FFB has a chainsaw feel instead of the expected linear but this could be due to iRacing doing weird things due to it's low FFB refresh rate. It would be nice to test it on ACC or rFactor 2 for example
@@bennson13 i think he meant the feel of the seperations of the magnets inside the motor. When the base is of and you turn the wheel you can feel the single magnets, thr seperations and the 'jump' between them. Usually it should disapear as soon as you turn the base on and use it in game. Sometimes some of this can stay and you may feel it while in game.
@Sim Racing Garage Is there a way I can email you some pictures I want to pick your brain on the TGT2. I bought it cheap with claims it didn’t work, but it turns out the turbo power supply was bad. I took the one from my tsxw and used on the tgt2 and it works perfectly. But from trouble shooting I noticed some visible frayed wire inside the vent on the top right where you can see the motor. It’s only a little, it looks spliced into the main wire to the motor, almost like it just didn’t get all the way into the harness. I took pictures and wanted to share it with you. I did open it up (using your tgt video as a guide) and wrapped the visible wire with electric tape, and everything seems to work great. I just want to be sure what was going on with that wire
Hi i dont know if you have used tm sf1000 ferrari edition. Do you know if there is a big difference between the one you are using and tm sf1000?
So Barry, you mentioned that one wheel base was able to deliver all the detail you want with no knotchiness - but you didn't say which one that was.
Just a piece of advise for anyone thinking about buying anything from Moza Racing.
I hope that this is not the wrong place to add this, in case it's not feel free to delete it.
I'm not going to give all details about the current situation but I'm force to bring American Express to a legal claim agains this company for totally ignoring several issues with their R9 and the FSR Formula Wheel that I bought a few weeks ago. The main message here is that if you get into troubles with their products you could receive the same unacceptable support I'm receiving which it is currently been totally ignored.
The base and wheel are failing since day one. I have been supplying videos and telling them about the shifting issues and the noise coming from the base and they are basically not acting as you will expect (last news received 7 days ago).
There are multiple issues with the base and the wheel.... tried all kind of things to make them work but they are somehow damage or something went wrong on the assembling process.
This is just a message to let you guys know that you could be facing the same level of support.
In case of anyone wanting to know more let me know. I can show you the videos that are showing some of the issues I'm dealing with.
hope to see your thoughts on r12 thx
What do think aboiut this R9 versus an OSW small mige?
Sorry, what's the base that Barry said looks like it's from the same supplier?
The rear Bluetooth module communicates with the phone app. The front one communicates with the wheel
Axis split and button animations for the clutch seem to have been inverted. Moza software bug.
thanks for the review! Do you know if the wheel base would fit on the formula playseat or would i have to get the adapter?
I'm loving my moza setup, first direct drive for me and it's amazing, I can't stop looking at the gs wheel tho, it such a beauty
Have you had any overheating issues with yours?
@@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames let me Know if you get the answer please mate 😇
Any info on aftermarket grips? If we can change this to a rubber or leather that would be awesome. Dont wanna drive always with gloves.
Are the handles @29:19 that the Alcantara is wrapped onto made of plastic? Seems like it?
SMALLL!!!! that’s a perfectly sized wheel base I would consider that huge
bought it dying to get it
Does anyone know if i can buy moza r9 ports?
That setup compatible with PlayStation 5?
Does anyone know with the wireless wheel connected, what does it show on the PC . Does it show just the base or does it show the wheel and base separate ?
I'm buying a golf Sim right now. And obviously as a viewer of your channel I'm doing extensive research. Boy you don't know what you've got until it's gone. No one does videos like you on that stuff..... Or possibly on anything. Thank you !
Hi Barry. Another great review as always. I’m in the market for a new wheel having really taken to sim racing. I have a play seat and Logitech g29 wheel currently but want to make the jump to direct drive. Whilst appreciating the subjective nature of wheels, settings etc, I’d really appreciate your thoughts on the best wheel (in your opinion) to go for? Budget is £1500 gbp and it’ll be used on pc for I-racing and PS5 for gt7 and f1 22. I’ve been looking at fanatic and Logitech true force but am open to other brands
Thank you in advance
Gareth
The Moza r9 is a great budget DD wheel base
Here we go