Even YOU can fix this phone! - Nokia G22

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    Bell loves phones, but he isn't a handy guy. Nokia's new G22 phone was created in partnership with iFixit to create a phone that's easily repairable at an accessible price point. Will Bell's lack of coordination make this fix a nightmare or can he overcome all odds and fix the screen without breaking into tears?
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Fix this phone!
    0:22 Unboxing
    0:57 Design impressions
    3:56 Repairing the screen
    8:36 Sponsor - Tello
    9:00 Thoughts on the repair
    9:55 Software and specs
    10:49 Speaker and screen impressions
    11:37 Camera impressions
    14:36 Labs testing results - Gaming, battery, and display
    17:00 Pricing, other options, and overall thoughts
    18:23 Outro
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  • @ShortCircuit
    @ShortCircuit  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +215

    Correction: At 16:42 Bell meant .85 seconds not 8.5 seconds (that'd be a looooong wait to launch Instagram!)
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    • @TheJunnutin
      @TheJunnutin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hahah. I don't use insta so I was thinking "Wait, is that how milliseconds work? Holy crap, 2,5s on a flagship phone??"

    • @oienu
      @oienu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can wait 3s OuOb is fine.

    • @BeepBeep2_
      @BeepBeep2_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How do these things slip through editing?

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Any explanation for the graph at 15:20 ? That's a terribly misleading graph.

    • @croxtr8358
      @croxtr8358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@AchiragChiraggI agree, along with the unlabelled graphs at 14:47 (what settings?) I am rather disappointed to say the least when it comes to the dataset that ltt labs has collected. As for testing methodology I also disagree, the video and stress test results should have standardized variables like brightness of display, WiFi and Bluetooth being on and temperature of room. Specification within the graph I would expect to look something like this (400nits, WiFi, Bluetooth, 1080p TH-cam H264 playback).
      I am still excited nonetheless for the expansion of ltt labs, I hope it grows to become the benchmark for what reviews should be like.

  • @RenSkywalker2187
    @RenSkywalker2187 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +790

    A Nokia phone that needs repairs? Oh how far we've fallen

    • @Veemospammer
      @Veemospammer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Well you see in the one or 2 reports of the Nokia breaking they decided to make it easily reparable so that if reality breaks and your phone gets damaged you can fix it

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You don't need to but you can 😂

    • @SAHILKAR-mw7nu
      @SAHILKAR-mw7nu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      The only phone company where customers expect that they will need no repairs.

    • @guardian1102
      @guardian1102 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I remember my first Nokia bricks, these things were built like Game Boys; tough and can survive a nuclear blast!

    • @karolwesoek5350
      @karolwesoek5350 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      First Nokia phones required repairs too. All you needed was just donor phone and you could replace parts yourself without any soldering required.

  • @q.edwards4891
    @q.edwards4891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    I'm not sure why companies that are all "YOU CAN REPAIR IT" won't make a good phone that's repairable. It isn't about less garbage to throw away, and more about having a "segment of the market that can be exploited".

    • @JanJanJanJanJanJanJanJanJan2
      @JanJanJanJanJanJanJanJanJan2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      And they do that by producing manufactured e-waste

    • @Piipperi800
      @Piipperi800 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Louis Rossman actually had a theory about this on their video of the Nokia G22, that makes sense. It's to tell the right to repair activists that "look, we made a phone, but nobody bought it!", to show that people don't want a repairable phone. When in reality these are the strings they are pulling to get to that conclusion.

  • @lewfec7336
    @lewfec7336 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Nokia lumia 1020 with the 41MP camera was super easy to change the screen. It had a plastic locking rail that you released with a torx screw under the top sim card tray. Once that was unscrewed the screen uncliped and just had to be unplugged and replaced, was so nice

    • @fritsfmn
      @fritsfmn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The construction of phones.. Has change over time.. now screen and frame is the same part, so it is hard to do

    • @DOSStorm
      @DOSStorm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Windows Phone was the GOAT. They were the first phones I remember having incredible cameras.

    • @3Rton
      @3Rton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good old Lumia... people used to call me crazy for buying one.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LG had their own problems, namely the software and bootlooping, but their old phones like the G4 was also super easy, just take out a few screws and pop the screen out, I swapped it in like 10 minutes with limited experience.

    • @_xwtk
      @_xwtk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@DOSStormcompletely agreed, I still have an 820 in my collection, had a 920 as a daily driver from 2014 up to 2017 then from 2019 to 2020

  • @playgroundsinc
    @playgroundsinc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Now we need a phone worth repairing

  • @Kumimono
    @Kumimono 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I'm not sure if comparing this to flagships is entirely, fair?

    • @micdraypr1855
      @micdraypr1855 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its closer to a Galaxy A13

    • @insolidusyt
      @insolidusyt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm guessing they probably don't have the numbers for too many mid-low ends. Downsides of being a big tech channel. But also, most people watching this probably wouldn't be able to comprehend what that low end performance would feel like.

    • @HolosKaustos
      @HolosKaustos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Companies can and have used products like this to undermine Right to Repair. They under power the product to the point that few people who pay attention will buy them, and those that don't pay attention will have a terrible experience and not want another one. Then, once it fails, companies will point to it and claim that they offered a repairable phone but there was no demand for it. By comparing it to flagship phones and pointing out that not only was the hardware lacking, but there was no reason it couldn't have been better they can undermine the claims of the companies.

    • @servissop151
      @servissop151 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@micdraypr1855even more low end; like samsung a03

    • @PaveMentman
      @PaveMentman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ---
      @@HolosKaustos
      Well, the thing is, this was the "G"-series-devices, which sits in between Nokia-branded "C" and "X"-devices.
      If this was "X"-series device, then the comparison "Nokia cheaping out"-argument against flagships would probably a bit more fairer comparison.
      But here we have more indented mid-range-device with the early-adopter-tax for the engineering "sample", hence more than likely the price being "too much" by the words of the LTT-staff;
      odd they didn't point out the smaller-volume / skew-price-hike-thing like they'd usually do on "WAN-show" and such.
      Most likely the prices will be eventually more "reasonable".
      But in case Nokia-brand / "HMD Global" is certainly will take a bit more time now they're also setting up the manufacturing in European-countries also
      ( which countries though has yet to be revealed ).
      ---

  • @TallTrees420
    @TallTrees420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I love this dude, has a great vibe.

    • @tbotnoblett
      @tbotnoblett 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He's so chill. It's like he functions the speed of relaxation

    • @ReadGameCraftCook
      @ReadGameCraftCook 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me too, hope he stays himself!

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@tbotnoblettYeah, even when he's speaking faster it feels like he isn't in a hurry.

    • @sz-me
      @sz-me 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You misspelled "voice"

    • @PisKelderPaul
      @PisKelderPaul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disagree

  • @Jezee213
    @Jezee213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

    The problem with these phones is the specs are always low to mid range, but I've yet to see a flagship spec with actually good cameras and processor. Imagine if like, the Samsung S23 Ultra was this repairable. I realize some things have to be different like plastic back and probably thicker but just saying.

    • @romank90
      @romank90 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Why would you not have plastic back at all? Glass back means you will immediately put a plastic case on it anyway 😑

    • @ayumiwaru
      @ayumiwaru 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      exactly, a cheapo phone that is low-mid range is nota phone id care to repair in the first place.

    • @ViXoZuDo
      @ViXoZuDo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      you can have a fully removable back cover with screws and premium materials.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Imagine if the phone was designed to have a case from the outset. A replaceable shell with mounts to the chassis because most people most of the time put a case on their phone. It'd wind up being slimmer as you don't have a decorative shell over the phone and then a case over that. It'd also be more robust as the case could mount to the phone not just elastic onto it.
      People could then make extended batteries and what not as well that didn't suck.

    • @ylandry0783
      @ylandry0783 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Probably the excuse of manufacturers concerning right to repair on phones. "See? no one buys them, so they don't want repairable phones."

  • @svengamings8658
    @svengamings8658 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I would like to see framework make a smartphone.

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Heck ya!

    • @insolidusyt
      @insolidusyt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Fairfone already exists though.

    • @Hadisabetghadam
      @Hadisabetghadam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Framework Like Fairphone

    • @FurbleFawks
      @FurbleFawks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Framework and fairphone working together would be /amazing/

    • @Ebalosus
      @Ebalosus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Preferably with removable storage and RISC-V (the superior ISA)

  • @Sandmonmsn
    @Sandmonmsn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The Fairphone 4 looked easier to repair.

    • @GodzThirdLeg
      @GodzThirdLeg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also it has way better specs.

  • @anasvar3319
    @anasvar3319 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great presenter, overall good video with the exception of that terrible longevity graph at 15:15.
    Love repairable phones, but this one does not make much sense to me.
    Why make it repairable if you're going to discourage long use by making it also too low spec with shortish support period!??

  • @Death_Saved
    @Death_Saved 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    battery life graph starting at 16.5 instead of 0 is pretty bad.

  • @ashelliot8895
    @ashelliot8895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Honestly, the fact that it has a headphone jack makes me like it much more than some other, even better phones.

    • @CarlBraun3
      @CarlBraun3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      sony is a good choice in terms of sd card + 3.5mm jack. But their auto-camera is not what it should be out-of-box

    • @Madwonk
      @Madwonk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd be very suspect at that price though. I tried a similarly priced Motorola and had to return it because there was *so much* horrendous noise on the headphone jack it was literally unusable. Sadly, only Sony in my experience has a *decent* DAC in their current devices.

    • @korndud
      @korndud 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there are TONS of better phone with headphone jacks.

    • @Madwonk
      @Madwonk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@korndud Which ones?

    • @servissop151
      @servissop151 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MadwonkThe whole Xiaomi lineup has some damn good phones, many of them with headphone jacks, and some of the Samsung A and M series have headphone jacks. Then there's the route of buying an older Samsung flagship and getting the battery replaced

  • @privacyvalued4134
    @privacyvalued4134 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    The only "self-repairable" components I really care about are the battery and the screen. And if I had to pick just one of those, I'd choose the battery. At $220, there are far better phones that are just as "repairable" as this phone that also have more powerful/capable hardware.

    • @Funktastico
      @Funktastico 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true, especially with nokia c02 (another crappy spec hardware) where you can pop out the back cover and the battery just pop out like phones from 2000s era without adhesive or connector ....
      i guess it's for ip rating ... but we had samsung galaxy s5 also with battery compartment that's rated ip67 with headphone jack and microsd expansion, so no excuses for modern phones these days to exclude all that.

    • @ejvollkrassalter
      @ejvollkrassalter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      can you make a list? i've been struggling to find anything

  • @thamires.magalhaes
    @thamires.magalhaes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love to see that, my previous phone was a Nokia and it was great, super indestructable. I only just switched to a new one because I'm a photo enthusiast and the camera was a bit lacking for me. After 6 years it's still completely functional and I can't even imagine how long more it would be good for being able to easily fix it. My phone before the Nokia was brand new when I had to stop using it because the screen broke and it was so hard to fix that they messed it up the first time, and it kept getting worse each time I took it to repair.
    Also, that headphone jack, Nokia keep up :)

  • @privacyvalued4134
    @privacyvalued4134 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As someone who uses Tello, I highly recommend them...with one huge caveat. I live in a large metropolitan area. There are some parts of town where Tello simply stops functioning. I rarely wind up in those areas of town so Tello works perfectly fine for me. Tello is a T-Mobile (formerly Sprint) MVNO. So if T-Mobile service kind of sucks in your area, then Tello will similarly suck. However, if you get good T-Mobile coverage, then Tello is going to be similarly decent/good. Tello's prices are generally the cheapest of all of the MVNOs with only Mint mobile barely edging out Tello on some data plans. By carefully managing app data usage and sticking heavily to WiFi, it is possible to never crack 200MB of data per month and yet use the phone extensively.

    • @Deses
      @Deses 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How much do you pay monthly for 200 mb?

  • @PaulGrayUK
    @PaulGrayUK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've owned a G21 for over a year, insides of G22 spec-wise same. great phone for the money, perfect, bit slow on Android updates, but guaranteed, wished support was longer and note the same for G22, so from memory it will be 2 Android updates and 3 years of security updates. So do check that for G22 as having something you can repair beyond 3 years and can't get updates, bit of a handicap and the right to compile the OS, is there, just a minefield. Aftermarket OS options are worth checking, not explored that but will be a big factor once official support drops.

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was thinking it'd be nice if the phone vendors had a subscription service for updates after X years. Like yeah they need to get paid to do the work to keep the software up to date. But like $1 a month or something after 2 years ending when the total number of subscribers for that phone are under 10k or incompatibility forces things to stop.
      That'd be a decent way for the vendor to get paid for their work and users to keep devices secure longer for minimal cost I think. I'd probably do it. $12 for a year of updates on a repairable phone? Seems fair.

  • @HybridDivide
    @HybridDivide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Reparability is good, but doesn't Nokia still lock down their bootloaders?
    That's a dealbreaker for me.
    (Please tell me if I'm wrong about the bootloaders!)

    • @grugiv
      @grugiv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      afaict yes

    • @rvmiv_
      @rvmiv_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Completly agree, not getting a phone with a locked boot loader ever again

  • @yurithebrave
    @yurithebrave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you claim you care about sustainability and recycling but then you smash a phone screen with a hammer for shits and giggles

  • @tobyroberts6571
    @tobyroberts6571 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video guys - thanks for making content about repairability and checking out a manufacturer 's claims regarding repairability

  • @kiliandjfilms
    @kiliandjfilms 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love you guys LMG, you do lots of awesome stuff...
    But you proved once again that reviewing low end devices is not your thing.
    I get that you wanna benchmark it, but no-one in their right mind is buying a sub 200€ smartphone to play 3D games.
    And what is even the point of the benchmark if you don't have any phone with a similar price to compare it to?
    The Pixel 6a... is a 350€ phone, almost DOUBLE THE PRICE, and that's the closest thing you give people to compare it too?
    Could have at leats, bought or lended a random phone thats in the same price range to give us something to compare it too.
    The software support not being great is a bummer for sure, but the importance of this is a bit overstated as well.
    I can tell you right now, that nobody in my extended family cares about what android version they are on, even less so what security update they got.
    This will not affect the average buyer of this phone's decision making when it comes to replacing it.
    The slow SOC will, that is true, for that reason, i would have much preferred it if Nokia put the money they spent on the 2 extra camera's towards a better SOC.
    Im not saying this is an amazing device, it is not...
    But its not half as bad as this video makes it look like given its price and repairability.

  • @touma-san91
    @touma-san91 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I wonder if G42 would work quicker than G22, they both are repairable.. Although I can't find any spare parts for G42 on Ifixit's website atm.. Not sure if the parts are somewhat interchangeable with each other

    • @GameCyborgCh
      @GameCyborgCh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the g42 does 5g, comes with android 13 instead of 12, better SoC, basically the same screen, 6 instead of 4gigs of ram, has 802.11ax, bluetooth 5.1 instead of 5.0
      for only a 70€ increase in price (every other spec i didn't mentioned is basically the same) screens are a slightly different size so part compatibility is probably not a thing (which seems like a big oversight)
      edit the G60 costs the same as the g42 and has a higher resolution screen, gorilla glass 5 instead of 3, 120hz refreshrate instead of 90, slighly new SoC but it doesn't seem like is has microSD expansion and isn't repairable like the others

  • @HASHlRAMA
    @HASHlRAMA 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like the idea but being realistic here, it is not much easier to repair than other phones. Other than the official guide and tab to open it up. It's very similar to an average phone inside.

  • @louism771
    @louism771 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The partnership with iFixit looks great and I'm so glad you dont have to (intentionally) break glued down screens just to replace your battery or USB port.

  • @Mr.Morden
    @Mr.Morden 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I appreciate Nokia's efforts here but they also need to focus on software support. I have a 5.3 and Nokia 5.3 users have been dealing with ghost touching for over a year now. Major OS version updates are over a year behind too and security updates can be many months apart (in violation of the Android One commitment). Plus Nokia only promises 3 years of security updates which is behind the 4 years of their primary competitor Samsung. Nokia also selects dimmer screens and slower SoCs. Seems like Nokia (HMD Global) has too many models for a company their size to manage.

    • @danke5356
      @danke5356 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nokia 5.3 owner here too, software updates really really slow to push, and lots of bugs everywhere. It's a decent phone tho but I can't recommend it after 3 years

    • @JerziTBoss
      @JerziTBoss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Former Nokia 5.3 owner here. I couldn't last more than a year with the phone, I had so many issues and bugs that I just went ahead and bought whole different phone.

  • @Keyan9
    @Keyan9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i could see a use-case in deployment to a workforce, where a basic app with small system requirements needs to be used. The IT dept could repair the devices as needed or as a refresher when the device trades owners, for minimal cost.

  • @germas369
    @germas369 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i stand by nokia, i had a Nokia 8 which still works, now using X30. Keep in mind that the G22 is very much an entry-level phone, there is a slightly better G42 which is also as repairable.
    Ive had a Lumia in the past which was once of my favourite and also super easy to open up and repair.
    Nokia seems like they are taking the initiative to change the way phone industry is and I like that, hopefully other brands will follow. As more iterations release, repairability will get better and so will price/performance.

  • @SW-ks3ws
    @SW-ks3ws 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an awesome presenter/reviewer! Great voice and manner of presentation.

  • @r0tax7
    @r0tax7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoy this presenters style, great job on these recent videos. Especially for a ShortCircuit. Chill and much less Chaos-energy than some other presenters and videos. Not too interested in this phone specifically, but welcome 'user serviceability' of any device, and would like to see it in more.

  • @Madwonk
    @Madwonk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It would be nice if you displayed the chips on battery life graphs (maybe below in parenthesis) because the generation/manufacturer makes a big difference in this!

  • @HybridDivide
    @HybridDivide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Companies: Sells a high-price-for-the-low-specs, repairable phone.
    Consumers: Buy something at around the same price, with higher specs.
    Companies: REPAIRABLE PHONES DON'T SELL!
    Give me at least decent specs and reparability, and I won't mind paying more.

  • @theroguenob
    @theroguenob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If this has more high end parts and potentially replaceable to either more modern parts or better ones this phone would be a hands down next one to get because this is still an amazing concept. Like the framework laptop

  • @stefcry
    @stefcry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey I feel like the graph at 15:21 was a little misleading, at a quick glance it looks like the nokia is way worse because it doesnt start at 0. Loved the video hope this doesnt come off as rude

  • @MrJuls1982
    @MrJuls1982 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think there is a little mistake in the numbers! Either the number (for cold launching apps, timestamp 16:45) is wrong or it does not take 8,5 seconds to launch the app, because 844ms are not 8,44 seconds. 8440ms would be roughly 8,5 seconds right?

    • @sanchitgangwar
      @sanchitgangwar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I was just about to comment that.
      The numbers seem to be correct, but the host isn’t reading them right.

  • @purple-anthem
    @purple-anthem 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The chart at 15:20 is very misleading. I understand it doesn't start at zero for scaling reasons, but it makes a bar chart pretty much pointless when we can't compare the size of the bars. It looks as though the Nokia gets awful (half as much!) battery life when it's just 2 hours less.

  • @metacob
    @metacob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usually when phone manufacturers add a feature to distinguish their glass rectangles from other glass rectangles, it's just some BS nobody needs. I LOVE seeing repairability as a selling point!

  • @martinkargl4064
    @martinkargl4064 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good review, interesting phone and good to see a step in the right direction. Critique for the video: You compare the 200$ g22 to phones that are double the price or nearly double the price and in the end you show alternatives for in that price range that actually should be compared to each other in this video.

  • @loganhuwe9458
    @loganhuwe9458 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    like the video. definitely could’ve been a full LTT video!

  • @AceSkates
    @AceSkates 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this, with an upgrade path. That's what I want.

  • @zackzeed
    @zackzeed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The repairability is really great, too bad it'll be outdated when you buy it with those specs. I hope it gets a couple of years of software updates!
    I'm to used to flagship phones so these specs would be very underwelming for me personally.

    • @DreitTheDarkDragon
      @DreitTheDarkDragon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wish they offered DIY phone. You could choose out of let's say two mainboards (with more coming in future), two or three fitting displays and so on. Want bigger battery? Well here is thicker case with one! Just order parts, complete it together and you are good to go.

    • @OperaVanDubels
      @OperaVanDubels 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@DreitTheDarkDragonthey've tried this but then failed miserably

    • @AkunPulivari
      @AkunPulivari 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nokia has promised at least 3 years of updates for all their phones, so it does have that going for it!
      Too bad I wouldn't want to use it after 3 years, not even 1...

    • @tangyboi386
      @tangyboi386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DreitTheDarkDragonframework phone when?

    • @DreitTheDarkDragon
      @DreitTheDarkDragon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tangyboi386 Maybe next time

  • @adagioleopard6415
    @adagioleopard6415 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey! I actually use the macro camera on my Galaxy A71 frequently at work. I work with small electronics and it's actually useful if you don't wanna go to the microscope every few minutes.

  • @nebulous962
    @nebulous962 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i am hoping that they also make smaller version of this cus that's waaaaay too big for me but other than that i really like it.

    • @20NBA01
      @20NBA01 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      why do you like this??? That's literally e-waste out of the box

    • @inuush
      @inuush 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@20NBA01 It's an affordable option for people that don't have a lot of money, like in a third world country, they don't have the money to buy a fucking iPhone when it costs 10x the minimum wage.

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You like what you like, but for me a 6.5 inch screen is barely large enough to be usable. However, with only a 720p display it should have a smaller screen.

  • @FA7ALtheGOD
    @FA7ALtheGOD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice to see Nokia follow the likes of Fairphone, allowing repairability for their devices.

  • @ficklampa
    @ficklampa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been using this phone myself since it came out. Can definitely notice the dated performance… other things I’ve noted is that although storage can be expanded with an SD card it can’t be combined with the internal storage, and apps on,y seem to be able to be installed on the internal storage. I don’t mind the screen though, considering the price… mainly got it to support the right to repair. Dunno why it’s compared to flagship phones when it’s a sub 200 euro phone. Think it should have been compared to the budget phones mentioned at the end of the video

  • @chinmaycbttiwari9818
    @chinmaycbttiwari9818 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love nokia, just only if they had better camera module, i would love to rock one. I had Nokia 6.1+ what a great phone.

    • @touma-san91
      @touma-san91 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's the good thing with repairability though.. With luck there might be one in future if they just bother properly supporting it

    • @NuttyV2
      @NuttyV2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Design of nokia phones just got worse and worse. I miss 6.1 era

  • @smmmokin
    @smmmokin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nokia being a well known name stepping into this territory is such a brilliant move. I thought Nokia no longer existed. This is beyond a brilliant decision. Another year or two my 3 year old Samsung needs to be replaced. I will legit remember this product. Now I'm watching the video.

    • @Validole
      @Validole 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a different company that bought the rights to the Nokia branding. The last actual Nokia phones were the Lumias, and even those they could only afford to engineer due to Microsoft buying Nokia phone division and using it as a showcase platform for Windows Phone (similar to the Google Nexus). Still Finnish, and some of the same leadership, but not actually the Nokia Corporation.

  • @Fliim
    @Fliim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another problem on top of being relatively mid range spec, is the security and feature updates time period. What’s the point of buying a repairable phone if it is only going to get maybe 2 years of security/feature updates.

  • @mosemister
    @mosemister 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad your showing nokia phones after Linus said "who is buying Nokia phones" on the WAN show.
    Would like to see higher end phones from Nokia such as the 50 series

  • @Ironpants57
    @Ironpants57 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! I see you installed unhappy raccoon. I gotta try that game out, looks fun

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is great that they are including all the basic hardware features like an SD slot and headphone jack but they really dropped the ball when it comes to resolution and lack of dual speakers.

  • @shadowwsk3507
    @shadowwsk3507 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish they also make midrange phones that are also repair friendly like this

  • @claudiobizama5603
    @claudiobizama5603 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Popping open the back of this nokia reminds me of opening an iPod classic

  • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
    @The_Opinion_of_Matt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Feels like some business manager decided that repairability is a niche market and the design, component spec, and pricing decisions were made so that management could later structure an argument around "no one wants a repairable phone". Let's get ahead of that. People want repairable phones. People don't want crap phones that are repairable.

  • @SWOhioSpeedtesting
    @SWOhioSpeedtesting 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:34 I have a feeling Bell tried working a phone repair store once but got fired for something like this

  • @DaniilVodopian
    @DaniilVodopian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Would seriously consider this phone if the screen was better

    • @sumesh-kumar
      @sumesh-kumar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But the processor is trash

    • @linuxmarmalade
      @linuxmarmalade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and RAM and proccessor and GPU

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am extremely please that they're making efforts to increase repairability but they can and should do better. Also 720p is inexcusable for a screen that large, the density of the screen has no effect on how hard it is to repair so that is no excuse.

  • @gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804
    @gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish you would either compare the phones to similarly priced new phones or show the prices on the comparison graphs.

  • @PhilmoreJenkins
    @PhilmoreJenkins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love Jake's voice, seeing them host is awesome!

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Nokia is truly perfect for self defense with how sturdy it is

    • @mod4rchive
      @mod4rchive 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      this isnt the nokia nokia, this is chinese factory buying the brand. nowhere near lumias

    • @OlafsLeftArm
      @OlafsLeftArm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mod4rchive HMD Global who designs and oversees the production is still based in Finland (as is the og Nokia that now makes mainly networking stuff) and there are people in HMD who worked for the og Nokia back in the days.
      The phones are manufactured by Foxconn (yes, probably in China).

    • @insolidusyt
      @insolidusyt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OlafsLeftArm from a quick Google, it seems that Nokia manufactures phones in several places. The biggest center is of course in China. But there are others in India, Latin America, and this year in Europe. It doesn't seem like they work exclusively with Foxconn either as the Indian center is run by Dixon Technologies.
      Also, at least in India and EU, the primary appeal of Nokias is still their durability.

    • @JuisSekasi
      @JuisSekasi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@insolidusytit is not, most of their phones after lumias have been china quality cheap shit, main market is india and asia, selling cheap shitty phones to poor peopole.

  • @ActuallyJakob
    @ActuallyJakob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    15:16 It's bad practice to break scales, you're misrepresenting a roughly 10% difference as a 100% difference.

  • @41chemist19
    @41chemist19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use my phone as a multi tasker / power user, a content consumption device, and a graphically intense gaming device... I really really want a repairable phone, but so far every single one has unusably bad specs for what I do on a phone. Where's my flagship repairable phone? Fairphone, Nokia, and other companies make repairable phones with trash tier specs for flagship prices. It's almost like they're intentionally making phones people wouldn't wanna buy and then say "oh gee, I guess nobody values repairability"

  • @falcie7743
    @falcie7743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could see this being a company issued phone. Performance is a non-issue, repairability would be enticing because you know employees drop phones, and it's a well known brand.

  • @lezzbmm
    @lezzbmm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the outdated parts r kind of a value add when ur looking for a phone u wanna not care abt breaking and buying replacement parts for

  • @danielrichardson3613
    @danielrichardson3613 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure Bell here must be related to the guy who does the super dramatic movie voiceovers. What a tone!

  • @bosstowndynamics5488
    @bosstowndynamics5488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's no real point in a repairable phone if its lifespan is kneecaped by short software support

  • @RonakDhakan
    @RonakDhakan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:12 This chart is misleading. The scale should start at 0 to show the true proportionate difference.

  • @aebisdecunter
    @aebisdecunter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I worked on repairing all kinds of phones, and this type of screen repair is more difficult than on an iPhone and especially some Google Pixels. This is type of assembly is the same as in most other cheap android phones, like Samsung A series, Xiaomi and it's brands, BBK's brands liek OPPO, Oneplus, etc. Glueing the screen to the whole frame isn't repairable at all, just look up the repairs on Pixels, that's how it should be done.
    The only repairable thing is the additional awailability of a few parts straight from ifixit. It's not that difficult to source even original parts for most of the new phones, a bit harder for iPhones, though.

  • @edplat2367
    @edplat2367 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    720p is an instant no from me. Sad thing is that a repairable phone is actually a big selling point.

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      720p on a 6.5 inch screen is terrible. Who wants to look at blurry pixels.

  • @theodoros_1234
    @theodoros_1234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:12 This graph can be confusing if you don't look at it carefully. Graphs should always start at 0, except when showing temperature. Just a small criticism, otherwise great video.

  • @StiekemeHenk
    @StiekemeHenk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There was no need to break the screen, you could've just replaced it without wasting the screen.
    What a huge oversight.

  • @ninetenduh
    @ninetenduh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Plastic backs are something we in Europe should get accustomed to, because of the ban on non-replaceable/built in batteries.

    • @Gummipalme
      @Gummipalme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are Not completely banned - either have to be replacable or it hast to be Made Sure that they have a longer lifetime. One of that ist enough.

    • @nebulous962
      @nebulous962 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i do like plastic backs so i am fine with that. i just hate glass backs cus they break so easily.

    • @neruwu
      @neruwu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plastic backs >>> glass backs
      A nice metal back though, that would be perfection

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@neruwuat the cost of wireless charging

    • @neruwu
      @neruwu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AchiragChiragg Wireless charging is so dumb tho. It's inefficient as fuck, heats up your phone damaging the internals and entices to charge in small bursts destroying batteries which is the main thing that breaks phones.
      Have a phone that has wireless charging now, loaned a charger from my family to try it out and literally only used it once just so I actually try it and I could have just as well plugged in the cord, would've taken 1 second longer and given me more charge

  • @ShowXTech
    @ShowXTech 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The price droped a bit, Nokia themselves offer the 128GB for 179€, on the free market you can get it for 160€-170€

  • @jamilvanderlinden7912
    @jamilvanderlinden7912 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miss Nokia in the gold old days.
    Have you ever tried the Nokia N9 meego OS?

  • @Zafiria
    @Zafiria 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    was the testing made before or after the parts replacement?

  • @GarlandKey
    @GarlandKey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Nokia provide schematics and access to ALL parts, including individual chips? If so, I'll buy one just to show support in hopes that the next version is higher than F tier.

  • @TheJQ54
    @TheJQ54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My man Bell gotta nice soothing & thumpy voice on him

  • @gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804
    @gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be interested to see if a flash to a different OS would make any difference in the performance.

  • @fish9468
    @fish9468 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:22 omg this graph 😵‍💫😵‍💫

  • @ericbonanno5214
    @ericbonanno5214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be interested in a flagship variant of this concept.

  • @sushimshah2896
    @sushimshah2896 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ah yes, comapring a low-end phone probably meant as a beginner device (or just a cheap secondary) to a mid-ranger worth more than twoce the price, totally makes sense!!👏🏻

  • @FastWinWalkthroughs
    @FastWinWalkthroughs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a person who spends most of his time at PC and if I leave at PC, all I want to do with my phone is take message or call, this would be perfect.

  • @Chrish1981
    @Chrish1981 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job!

  • @brodyjames4126
    @brodyjames4126 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This thumbnail made me laugh in a good way.😆

  • @trelauney
    @trelauney 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:45 Is it washed out, or automatic skin lightening? Obviously things are getting processed if you can set a bokeh shape.
    (if it's an option... I'd turn it off. But I also have some idea how to light things.)

  • @riden30
    @riden30 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question? Is it at all possible to do the initial phone impressions first and then give it to labs to test?? It seems a little odd to have someone review a phone that’s already been tampered with, and in this case, literally broken first? I know y’all run an incredibly busy schedule but Idk something to consider?

  • @telotawa
    @telotawa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    15:22 hey, misleading scale!!! don't do that shit

  • @flikflak24
    @flikflak24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo the nokia 3210 was impossible to kill man ( except the battery they probably still work even after these many years later like brand new )
    We even used it as the ball when we played baseball. It did sometimes blow apart but you just take the parts. Put them together and it still worked like nothing happened

  • @dzunepwnsipod
    @dzunepwnsipod 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:05 OOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!

  • @stephenmorrish
    @stephenmorrish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just checked the Nokia site and it's only £149 in the UK. That is including 20% VAT. So the price you mentioned is off by quite a bit.

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The phone is also about six months old so I'm guessing they've been holding onto this review for a while. The script probably uses launch price too.

  • @markawilliams4860
    @markawilliams4860 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The kind of people who'd want to repair their phone are not interested in low-tier performance specs. We want something that is quality, can be maintained, and will last a long time.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do repair friendly (or at least friendlier) phones always use anemic hardware? We want a flagship phone that is repair friendly!

  • @youngThrashbarg
    @youngThrashbarg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In other video the battery was glued in so tight, the guy actually bent the battery while trying to get it out.

  • @CJBMAGGOT94
    @CJBMAGGOT94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey look! A repairable phone that nobody would actually want to use. Great job.

  • @claudiojaramillo5177
    @claudiojaramillo5177 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was looking for a new phone and this might be the one to be honest, perfect for my use : cheap, durable, repairable

  • @MatrixSJD
    @MatrixSJD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All this is great for the 7 people that will buy this phone. That's the issue with so many of these ideas, they end up going no where because no one buys them.

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is their plan.

  • @Erevos85
    @Erevos85 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most Android phones, after you remove the glued back cover, are pretty much the same. Huawei uses the same tabs on the battery, Xiaomi has strips like the iPhones. Samsung phones are a bit more difficult to remove the battery because you have to heat up the whole thing and use a suction cup. I professionally use a heating plate - LCD separator set to 80C. Much better and safer than a heat gun.

  • @Alex_Martin_
    @Alex_Martin_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Claims to have no idea what the inside of the phone looks like.
    Has a teardown skin his laptop.

  • @StuckDuck
    @StuckDuck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if they didn't put 3 cameras on it and actually used that money to make the specs more decent, sad we really don't have our priorities straight in 2023

  • @sammi7971
    @sammi7971 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does the battery graph start at 16.5 hours ? at first glance it seems that the Nokia g22 has a 1/3 of the battery life compared to the pixel 7a.

  • @SJB117
    @SJB117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the camera is surprisingly good