I found it interesting that Ahsoka opted to use only her standard lightsaber when she fought both Marrok and Baylon rather than her trademark Jar’Kai technique
I personally think that Ahsoka made her way to the World Between Worlds by chance. During the whole fight I was thinking that there must be an entrance to the World Between Worlds here at the reflex point, because there should be an entrance associated with the Purgil just like there was an entrance associated with the wolves on Lothal. So I think when she fell into the water below the map structure, she fell into the World Between Worlds. I think Anakin (redeemed, dead Anakin) is waiting for her because the last time he saw her was when she was pulled into the World Between Worlds during her fight with Vader. I don’t think it’s a place where Jedi go when they die. I think Anakin sought it out specifically to try to find her.
10:33 it appears that Sabine had no other choice. Baylon could have stopped Sabine at any point and killed her. If he defeated Ahsoka (which he did) Sabine stood no chance. Her only option was to surrender and hope he is a man of his word. That way she will go with them and can live to fight another day.
Baylen is an odd character in many ways. He is quite dark, let no one say otherwise. But at the same time, he does not kill Sabine and he honestly did not seem to want to fight Ahsoka. That flatly contradicts most of what we have seen in Dark Side Force users. So... what? I am confused, but hopeful for some kind of reveal as to why he is doing this. And then to hear 'Hello Snips' followed by the Darth Vader theme opening at the end.... Is that Anakin or is that Vader? We will hopefully see next week.
Sabine Failed, Hence the name of the Episode : "Fallen Jedi". This shows how attachments can bring down a Jedi. it was her attachment to Ezra that allowed Baylon to Manipulate her!
I think Anakin brought her there to give her some training and some closure. I don’t think the WBW will be used to travel to Peridia. And I think Anakin will explain a lot of the WBW.
I have a feeling that wasn't actually Anakin but the Son (he may be the one talking to her in the first episode too). Unless he is Anakin and somehow will help Ahsoka to set herself free from whatever has weighed her down. Ahsoka will return stronger. From Ahsoka the "Grey", she turn into Ahsoka the "white" (Filoni has said that she is Star Wars' Gandalf). Now, this means that we might have a time "reverse" when Ahsoka returns to the "real" world but at the exact moment where she goes to pick Sabine up and start the search for Ezra and Thrawn (thus getting the scene from Rebels).
To be fare to Sabine since the ending of rebels her real family died and she could do nothing, her adopted family has moved on Hera is a General and is pretty busy with the New Republic, Zeb is also doing his own they within the larger galaxy, her master abandoned her because she had a hard time letting go of Attachments and Ezra who has helped her move past her past, reunite her with her family, help Liberate her home world, destroy the Duchess, he also was the one to help her open up and expect the darksaber for the time that see had it is lost in another galaxy. The reason she wants to find Ezra is that when she was at her lowest, when she needed help he was there for her, he was someone who'd fight beside her, someone to vent to when she needed to and maybe to her the only person left who won't abandon her.
One would think she would have popped up with Bo Katan however Sabine is pretty -- shall we say, shallow. Self involved. Self pitying. Not Jedi material at all. Ahsoka made a grave error in picking her. I might be wrong.
I feel like anakin/vader murdered baylan's former padawan and that would explain why he has so much animosity towards ahsoka just for being alive and being anakins apprentice
@alpinevicemotorsports1805 that could be true for sure, but that would mean that baylan was either already leaning dark side during the war or he felt more attached to the order than most other jedi who survived order 66 and that attachment caused him to hate anakin and turn dark
Since we're all here I'd like to also say that I think it's possible baylan maybe had high hopes for anakin leading the order one day and seeing him fall to the dark side and destroy the order alongside the clones made him hate the jedi and the Republic all at once
@@Brewsy92 right…. Because I was like, Sabine hasn’t been able to use the force at all… I never even considered the possibility of that being a force push…. So when he said that, I was like uhhhhhhh wot¿
@@vop69420Yes he is. I believe in the world between worlds is where Jedi that became one with the force reside. And when they come out of the WBW they become the blue force ghosts. But inside they are themselves.
4:57 100% if he does not die by end of season one they need to recast. I feel that Ray would want his work and character to live on if that was already decided. But we will ultimately just have to watch and see what happens.
I feel like there is too much history and lore they were building with Baylan to kill him off. Plus I don’t think that would be something that Ray Stevenson would want. I’m thinking someone like Graham McTavish as a possible recast
Why would Sabine give away the map that will surely lead to a galaxy wide war to the bad guys... Especially after already losing it and regreting it. Ezra sacrificed himself for the whole galaxy, and now she made his sacrifice obsolete. I`m sure when he said now it`s "up to them", this is the exact opposite of what he would have wanted.
With the parallels of Palpatine (Baylon), Anakin (Sabine) and Obi-Wan (Ahsoka) in this scenario, I believe it will lead to Ahsoka succeeding where Obi-Wan failed and will be able to save her Padawan. I know the situation is a lot different since it’s not like Baylon asked Sabine to join the dark side, since she’s ‘not a Jedi yet’ (get it?) but I believe this will ultimately be Ahsoka’s test to not give up on Sabine again.
People think too much into it...just like Marrok. I don't think Ahsoka is dead at this point...I think the force pulled her into this realm for a reason. Just like it sent Ezra to the world between worlds to save Ahsoka before. She has a connection to the force that is on another level, and it won't let her die until she has fulfilled her destiny. The Daughter chose to give her life to Ahsoka, because the force willed it, and she was pure enough to take on that role after the daughter was killed. She has a mission...whether she realizes it or not. The force sent Anakin to her as a lesson in her past, or a guide for her future.
It felt weird when Sabine handed over the map. On the one hand, it felt to me like the plot forced it so the story could continue, but on the other hand, I can understand why she chose to do it. That's a contradiction that I just can't explain. But I'm still excited to see how the story will continue.
Easy. Baylon even explains this during his manipulation of her. She has no family, hers died on Mandalore. On top of that, Ahsoka just fell off a cliff. Sabine is at a Point where she is so emotionally distraught that she gives into desperation and hands the map over.
@@chrismangold7609 It's not that I can't explain why she chose to act that way. It's more that I don't understand why it feels like the plot forces it. (For me at least.) The episode was great, but something still bothered me with this scene.
I'm a bit bummed at how much flack Sabine is getting. She was always such a strong character in Rebels, and I don't think of her as "immature" or weak (I mean, isn't she like late twenties or early thirties?) but rather a rebel and always doing things her own way. I'm waiting for Rebels Sabine to kick in! I think she is clever and calculating and I'm banking that she will use her wits to find her way out of this situation and wait for an advantage to save herself and Ezra.
The World Between Worlds is not supposed to be time travel, so, it is actually the afterlife, so that means next weeks episode will connect with the ending of Star Wars Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker when Rey hears the voice of Anakin Skywalker & Ahsoka!
With this episode it basically confirmed the deaths of Sabine family from clan Wren that never crossed my mind I didn’t think about that when they showed and discussed the purge on mandalore in the mandalorian
Thoughts: Is this Anakin or not? Recall that Kylo Ren thought Anakin was talking to him but it was really Snoke. Baylon could be recast with an actor of equal gravitas, although that might be sacrilege. Ahsoka's hubris if you will in picking Sabine -- well, Sabine isn't canny enough to think she'll just "pretend" to join Baylon in order to thwart his plans. She has learned nothing. If Ezra Bridger had the nobility to exile himself, then Sabine should have learned the lesson. anyway, it was a nail biter for sure.
This episode was amazing! One thing I'd still like to know is why Marok's helmet was shown in blue. (Blue for good guys & red for bad guys.) I know why Sabine's helmet is red; for now at least. She gave into attachment and shows fear, disobedience & hate.
I am guessing that Marok is someone who we know of, killed in Order 66, resurrected by Morgan Elsbeth, set free by Ahsoka. Perhaps he would return in the form of the Force to repay Ahsoka by the end of this season.
This place is related to the Father, Daughter and Son, so the world between worlds can be made of pure Force just like Mortis, so Anakin can be there without any effort as a physical being but made of the Force. This is after Return of the Jedi so Anakin has reached full balance in the Force and this may explain his normal appearance and Vader's melody.
10:27 Sabine’s maturity and vision are clouded by trauma and by years of stagnation in life and procrastination of real healing and real mourning. Hera has a healthy relationship with Ezra’s disappearance and likely death, but Sabine has held onto the possibility of his survival for years and it has obstructed her grown as a person. This may be why Ahsoka left Sabine originally.
I’m scared for the next episode. Vader’s score + his lightsaber not being his episode 3, I’m not ready to lose Hayden againnnnn. Edit: forgot to add if this is post ep 6, wouldn’t he be wearing his Jedi robes, not episode 3 dark tunic? Curious to see if this change actually matters. Another one: DAMN
11:03 Baylan has really done his homework on his adversaries here. This shows just how cunning he is and how intuitive he is with The Force. He immediately can sense Sabines internal conflict and exploit it.
Perhaps what we're seeing in the World Betweeen Worlds is Annakin from shortly before he became Darth Vader - i.e. Annakin right before he completed his turn to the dark side. In that state Annakin would not really be a good influence on an Ahsoka who is skirting between the light and dark sides of the force. Of course the cynic may also point out that this could be a way to justify the next Star Wars movie starting with "Somehow... Darth Vader returned"
The stances moved through the various forms. Baylon starts in form 3 but moves to form 7 after assessing her skill. She looked frustrated to have to make the first move. She was like, "Great, he uses form 3"
@undyne4032 i thought form 5, but the ferocity and power had me second guess myself... Anakin typically switched to form 5 after a fight went too long. Vader just sits in it. But this guy...he uses the defense to get an idea of what form to get into. He may be a master of ALL forms. I hope we find out he is.
it cant be form 7, beacuse form 7 does not retain on raw strength, but rather on cunningness, and complexity of changing planes of attack. Form 5 rely heavily on front facing, powerful blows, that are simple, but carry a lot of weight, and are concentrated on delivering that weight head-on.
is it just me but when Anakin says i didn't expect to see you so soon a reference to The Clone Wars episode when the Siege of Mandalore begins and The Rebels episode when Vader tells her this moment has been long awaited and that Anakin isn't Anakin but the brother of the dark side in Clone Wars or i am just seeing to much into it.
We knew it was coming. But what im really really really looking forward to, is to hear Hayden with not only more dialogue as Anakin.....but this is dialogue after epsiode 3.....present day....after our boy has come by from the darkside.....
I fully believe in recasting characters, whether it is because a legacy actor is too old or a smaller role actor is no longer available. Star Wars is art and an actor is not the character. Much respect and RIP to Ray Stevenson, but if they aren't done with the character arc they must recast.
ahhh movie magic..... two metal robots were literally tin banging the ish outa each other and just a few ft away the people didn't even hear it happening......
When Baylan played on Sabine's attachment to Ezra, you compare it to Palpatine's manipulation if Anakin... but I immediately associated it with Vader manipulating Luke and his attachment to Leia in RoTJ.
I loved this episode. Baylan is the most interesting character for me. I just want to learn more and more about him, his past and his ways. Such a shame Stevenson was taken. RIP Ray. The next episode, directed by Filoni, is going to be a banger. Disney has so much confidence in it that they’re playing it in select theaters around the country.
I believe now that Anakin, as a force ghost used the world between worlds to save Ashoka. Like Ezra saved her. But the darth Vader theme played because maybe it’s not really anakin or maybe anakin will try to convince her to join the new empire.
I think at the least, they need to explore Baylan and Shin before the events of Ahsoka in comic or book form. This episode was my favorite thus far, it tied the other three episodes together nicely, while also opening up more room for the story to progress further.
It is a great shame that Ray is no longer with us and I would understand if they recast the character I just hope they choose a really good actor to do so but I'm also okay with them killing him off if they choose that path. This was definitely my favorite episode so far and I loved it. I'm excited for the next one as well.
Ray needs to stay as long as he can. While Ray certainly is unique in his own way, I bet that there will be a actor to step in and bring him further along.
Sideous said the world between worlds is the confines of life and death meaning the living and dead can coexists there together....that is our Anakin we see and not a ghosts...The world between worlds is not the living world and either the netherworld...
In Star Wars canon, I believe, Qui-Gon Jinn, discovered the world between worlds, and that’s how Jedis become force spirits and the only way you could become a force spirit is, if you knew both the light and dark side of the force, which every force spirit we’ve seen has tapped into the Darkside at one point Quagen when he cheated to get the dice rolling, Obi-Wan, giving into his love for his brother on Mustafá and even Yoda when he felt ultimate dread after he was defeated by the emperor
So now I’m curious about the whole force ghost & world between worlds stuff. So when someone becomes a force ghost do they then reside in the world between worlds and that is how they are able to interact with the living world? If that is the case and Ahsoka was brought to the world between worlds twice now, does that mean that a Jedi doesn’t necessarily need to learn how to become a force ghost and that someone who is already a force ghost could bring a dying Jedi over and essentially turn them into a force ghost for them? Which could explain how Anakin became a force ghost without knowing how to do it himself, by Obi-wan bringing him over as he passed? Or at the very least a force ghost obviously has access to the world between worlds and can bring someone over from the living world and then from there teach them how to become a force ghost?
I’m really proud of myself for immediately noticing that Anakin is carrying Vader’s lightsaber. I’m starting to wonder if this means we’ll get a Vader cameo in the next episode.
Same!!! I'm scared it's the son, or Vader or something..trying to escape the world between worlds. So many videos, so many comments and not many people have noticed this!!
We need Balin to stay in Star Wars canon, regardless of who plays him rest in peace Ray Stevenson, an awesome actor, but to lose a character like this in a one off series would be a greater tragedy for an over arcing story. We all excepted Don Cheadle‘s as war machine in marvel after he was re-casted, and as long as they stay true to the actual character, the actor doesn’t matter who plays him.
Showing how much time it took with direct lightsaber contact to destroy the star map I think suggests that even if Sabine had tried to destroy the thing with her blaster it wouldn't have worked and they just would have killed. Sabine
I would be ok with Shin commenting on the demise of Baylon between seasons if it comes to it and her taking over, being a bit more unhinged than he was, since she never really got the jedi side of the training. I cannot fathom someone replacing Rey after the performance he is putting in.
Indeed seeing Anakin got me with tears in my eyes. This live action encounter was foretold and it was amazing... baylan is a damn good character and so well done by Ray. The only bad thing was Starkiller being starkilled, sadly he was just a night sister wraith...
RIP Ray. I think actor replacement can still work for this character. Kinda like a Dumbledore continuity (no need to work anything into the plot - we all know what's happened IRL). Because Baylan is becoming such a beloved character, it would be a fitting tribute to Ray to keep his original portrayal of the character immortalised by keeping the character alive in universe. Unless the character has already become one with the force in the future episodes.
@@LittleBigMediaCo Awesome! I really like his mystique and quasi-neutrality. Definitely keen to see more of Baylan. Certainly not an easy character to re-cast. Fingers crossed the force finds a way!
Few actors have owned a role as Ray did. A tribute to his presence. And how many of us could watch a series based on his character? Oh, and… Droid fight! Droid fight!
@star wars comics: Where is Ashoka's owl? She inherited it from Sister when she gave her life energy for Ashoka. We saw the owl in Clone Wars final run and in Rebels. Where is the owl in this series? What is the significance of it not being included?
From what I can gather marrok it’s either a former sith apprentice who figured how to use the dark side to stay alive in a smoke like form this why he was in the armor… we have seen this in the animated show with yoda and a former Sith Lord
Baylan accepts that Thrawn will bring war, but believes the power he aims to gain from his participation, is bigger than the negatives of that war. That can only be a few things. Baylan must believe that will have the power to go back and erase Order 66, The sith capture of the republic, and ensure that Thrawn never rises to power in any way. The 'greater good' he keeps talking about. Enter the World between Worlds and the 'pathway to Peridea'. Dave might even be able to 'erase' the poor Disney sequels and make Georges original ideas in the 'corrected universe'.
7:38 let’s not forget that “few” in canon know who Vader _actually_ was. This may be retconned at some point but the fact that Ahsoka didn’t know Vader was Anakin until the duel in Rebels clearly shows that Vader’s identity was clearly not public knowledge.
It is horrible that Stephenson is dead I only learned it through this video and a lot to take in. But still I hope baelon survives the season, although I think Stephenson was the perfect cast for this, I really see the new joruus c‘baoth in him and that character has much to do still. But I have no idea who could take over from Stephenson and carry it like he did :/
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I found it interesting that Ahsoka opted to use only her standard lightsaber when she fought both Marrok and Baylon rather than her trademark Jar’Kai technique
shows her respect for Baylon
@river24s why would that be more respectful? If anything it would be holding back/ aka disrespect
Against baylan she needs her hand to get the map.
Did she leave one of those Jar-Kai sabers in the snow at the end of Clone Wars, to fake her death?
she needed her second hand to take the map
the transition from the sea waves to the world between worlds was the smoothest transition ever and we can all agree to that.
ngl i thought it was the force netherworld cause no portals
She was mocked off the lightsaber didn’t seem to hit her
@@wolfdotzip4053there might have been a portal and the world between worlds also could be a bridge between life and death
I agree
My heart skipped a beat when I saw Anakin. This episode was amazing...
I like how Baylons saber is more based on a claymore sword than a one handed sword it definetely fits his character.
Kylo Ren’s lightsaber design was wasted on his fight style.
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive"style' is being extremely generous
A claymore is a basket hilted sword - you want to say a two handed sword.
Shati: "You have no power!"
Sabine promptly shoots her lightsaber out of her hand.
Very mandalorian. Loved that scene.
That wasn't her lightsaber....
I personally think that Ahsoka made her way to the World Between Worlds by chance. During the whole fight I was thinking that there must be an entrance to the World Between Worlds here at the reflex point, because there should be an entrance associated with the Purgil just like there was an entrance associated with the wolves on Lothal. So I think when she fell into the water below the map structure, she fell into the World Between Worlds.
I think Anakin (redeemed, dead Anakin) is waiting for her because the last time he saw her was when she was pulled into the World Between Worlds during her fight with Vader.
I don’t think it’s a place where Jedi go when they die. I think Anakin sought it out specifically to try to find her.
Hopefully she makes it out somehow
@@brendancarroll7913 she made it out once, she can make it out again. I think she’ll use the world between worlds to find a way to the other galaxy
@@alpinevicemotorsports1805yeah I think that too, she'll exit out in the new galaxy
@@alpinevicemotorsports1805 yep. And we have purgills if you recall. Ezra could talk to them -- maybe someone else can (Jacen?)
10:33 it appears that Sabine had no other choice. Baylon could have stopped Sabine at any point and killed her. If he defeated Ahsoka (which he did) Sabine stood no chance.
Her only option was to surrender and hope he is a man of his word. That way she will go with them and can live to fight another day.
She certainly could have sacrificed herself for the sake of the galaxy
Baylen is an odd character in many ways. He is quite dark, let no one say otherwise. But at the same time, he does not kill Sabine and he honestly did not seem to want to fight Ahsoka. That flatly contradicts most of what we have seen in Dark Side Force users. So... what? I am confused, but hopeful for some kind of reveal as to why he is doing this.
And then to hear 'Hello Snips' followed by the Darth Vader theme opening at the end.... Is that Anakin or is that Vader? We will hopefully see next week.
I had no problem with Sabine giving up the map Baylon pushed all her buttons
Sabine Failed, Hence the name of the Episode : "Fallen Jedi". This shows how attachments can bring down a Jedi. it was her attachment to Ezra that allowed Baylon to Manipulate her!
@@alpinevicemotorsports1805it’s all about attachment. Sabine couldn’t let go which is why she gave in
Great video!
I don’t think Ahsoka is dead. The World Between Worlds may allow her to travel to the Peridia galaxy and slap some sense into Sabine.
I think Anakin brought her there to give her some training and some closure. I don’t think the WBW will be used to travel to Peridia. And I think Anakin will explain a lot of the WBW.
I have a feeling that wasn't actually Anakin but the Son (he may be the one talking to her in the first episode too). Unless he is Anakin and somehow will help Ahsoka to set herself free from whatever has weighed her down.
Ahsoka will return stronger. From Ahsoka the "Grey", she turn into Ahsoka the "white" (Filoni has said that she is Star Wars' Gandalf). Now, this means that we might have a time "reverse" when Ahsoka returns to the "real" world but at the exact moment where she goes to pick Sabine up and start the search for Ezra and Thrawn (thus getting the scene from Rebels).
The Vader theme and lightsaber on his belt big clues
Love this idea
Yep... At first I only noticed the music. Had to rewatch the scene to notice the saber hilt.
The pilot was NOT played by Alan Tudyc, but Brendan Wayne
3:48 it's not Alan Tudyk, but it is Brendan Wayne who is the stunt performer for Din Djarin!
Ahsoka & Baylan sizing each other up with varying fighting styles was gold
To be fare to Sabine since the ending of rebels her real family died and she could do nothing, her adopted family has moved on Hera is a General and is pretty busy with the New Republic, Zeb is also doing his own they within the larger galaxy, her master abandoned her because she had a hard time letting go of Attachments and Ezra who has helped her move past her past, reunite her with her family, help Liberate her home world, destroy the Duchess, he also was the one to help her open up and expect the darksaber for the time that see had it is lost in another galaxy. The reason she wants to find Ezra is that when she was at her lowest, when she needed help he was there for her, he was someone who'd fight beside her, someone to vent to when she needed to and maybe to her the only person left who won't abandon her.
One would think she would have popped up with Bo Katan however Sabine is pretty -- shall we say, shallow. Self involved. Self pitying. Not Jedi material at all. Ahsoka made a grave error in picking her. I might be wrong.
Episode 4 is one of the best starwars in the last couple of months! Hands down!
I feel like anakin/vader murdered baylan's former padawan and that would explain why he has so much animosity towards ahsoka just for being alive and being anakins apprentice
Exactly what i was thinking
I feel like Anakin murdering all the Jedi in the temple is probably enough lol
With the ending music choice... I think that was the opening notes of the Imperial March, Darth Vader's theme. DEFINITELY a possibility.
@alpinevicemotorsports1805 that could be true for sure, but that would mean that baylan was either already leaning dark side during the war or he felt more attached to the order than most other jedi who survived order 66 and that attachment caused him to hate anakin and turn dark
Since we're all here I'd like to also say that I think it's possible baylan maybe had high hopes for anakin leading the order one day and seeing him fall to the dark side and destroy the order alongside the clones made him hate the jedi and the Republic all at once
The last pilot isn't Alan Tuyduk it's Mando's stunt double Brendan Wayne.
The thing that I don't understand is why Ashoka only used her main blade and not both of them.
that wasn't alan tudyk that played the rebel pilot. it's brenden wayne (stunk double for mando)
Wait, I thought Shin wasn’t “face pushed”, I thought she snapped back to the lightsaber thinking Sabine was gonna pull it back to her
Correct
No, listen close. They play the force theme and there's even a force push sound effect.
@@Brewsy92 right…. Because I was like, Sabine hasn’t been able to use the force at all… I never even considered the possibility of that being a force push…. So when he said that, I was like uhhhhhhh wot¿
I think Shin just braced herself expecting a force blow but nothing actually happened
@thunderstone6096 listen for the force sound effect. She definitely used a weak push on her
0:47 so does this mean force ghosts have access to the world between worlds? And that Anakin saved her like Ezra saved her against Vader?
Exactly this breakdown was pure disappointment
This anakin doesnt seem like a force ghost
He was not a force ghost
@@vop69420Yes he is. I believe in the world between worlds is where Jedi that became one with the force reside. And when they come out of the WBW they become the blue force ghosts. But inside they are themselves.
@@dombird7053 wrong
4:57 100% if he does not die by end of season one they need to recast. I feel that Ray would want his work and character to live on if that was already decided.
But we will ultimately just have to watch and see what happens.
i agree with you. i just have no idea who they would choose for the recast.
I feel like there is too much history and lore they were building with Baylan to kill him off. Plus I don’t think that would be something that Ray Stevenson would want. I’m thinking someone like Graham McTavish as a possible recast
Why would Sabine give away the map that will surely lead to a galaxy wide war to the bad guys... Especially after already losing it and regreting it. Ezra sacrificed himself for the whole galaxy, and now she made his sacrifice obsolete. I`m sure when he said now it`s "up to them", this is the exact opposite of what he would have wanted.
With the parallels of Palpatine (Baylon), Anakin (Sabine) and Obi-Wan (Ahsoka) in this scenario, I believe it will lead to Ahsoka succeeding where Obi-Wan failed and will be able to save her Padawan. I know the situation is a lot different since it’s not like Baylon asked Sabine to join the dark side, since she’s ‘not a Jedi yet’ (get it?) but I believe this will ultimately be Ahsoka’s test to not give up on Sabine again.
They could take a little inspiration from the Timothy Zahn novels and have Baylan cloned for Season 2 and replace him with a different actor
People think too much into it...just like Marrok. I don't think Ahsoka is dead at this point...I think the force pulled her into this realm for a reason. Just like it sent Ezra to the world between worlds to save Ahsoka before. She has a connection to the force that is on another level, and it won't let her die until she has fulfilled her destiny. The Daughter chose to give her life to Ahsoka, because the force willed it, and she was pure enough to take on that role after the daughter was killed. She has a mission...whether she realizes it or not. The force sent Anakin to her as a lesson in her past, or a guide for her future.
Was not expecting Marrok to be a Nightsister creation.
Nice work Dave.
Ik right
It felt weird when Sabine handed over the map. On the one hand, it felt to me like the plot forced it so the story could continue, but on the other hand, I can understand why she chose to do it. That's a contradiction that I just can't explain. But I'm still excited to see how the story will continue.
Easy. Baylon even explains this during his manipulation of her. She has no family, hers died on Mandalore. On top of that, Ahsoka just fell off a cliff. Sabine is at a Point where she is so emotionally distraught that she gives into desperation and hands the map over.
@@chrismangold7609 It's not that I can't explain why she chose to act that way. It's more that I don't understand why it feels like the plot forces it. (For me at least.) The episode was great, but something still bothered me with this scene.
Sabine DID use the force. If you listen close they use the very distinctive foce sound effect when Shin flinches.
balan is like the count dooku of the era
I'm a bit bummed at how much flack Sabine is getting. She was always such a strong character in Rebels, and I don't think of her as "immature" or weak (I mean, isn't she like late twenties or early thirties?) but rather a rebel and always doing things her own way. I'm waiting for Rebels Sabine to kick in! I think she is clever and calculating and I'm banking that she will use her wits to find her way out of this situation and wait for an advantage to save herself and Ezra.
The most epic scene since Luke's re-appearance in Mandalorian Season 2 fighting Gideon's Dark Troopers...
The World Between Worlds is not supposed to be time travel, so, it is actually the afterlife, so that means next weeks episode will connect with the ending of Star Wars Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker when Rey hears the voice of Anakin Skywalker & Ahsoka!
With this episode it basically confirmed the deaths of Sabine family from clan Wren that never crossed my mind I didn’t think about that when they showed and discussed the purge on mandalore in the mandalorian
Balin need not die to not return in season two. He needs only to be trapped in the other galaxy like Ezra and Thrawn are now.
They could recast Baylon.And I know who!Vincent Regan as Baylon!
Ray is the reason his character is so excellent, replacing him would just be a disservice to the gentleman.
Anakin looks so peaceful im happy to see his character find peace
Thoughts: Is this Anakin or not? Recall that Kylo Ren thought Anakin was talking to him but it was really Snoke. Baylon could be recast with an actor of equal gravitas, although that might be sacrilege. Ahsoka's hubris if you will in picking Sabine -- well, Sabine isn't canny enough to think she'll just "pretend" to join Baylon in order to thwart his plans. She has learned nothing. If Ezra Bridger had the nobility to exile himself, then Sabine should have learned the lesson. anyway, it was a nail biter for sure.
This episode was amazing!
One thing I'd still like to know is why Marok's helmet was shown in blue. (Blue for good guys & red for bad guys.) I know why Sabine's helmet is red; for now at least. She gave into attachment and shows fear, disobedience & hate.
I think we will get answer based on shin’s reaction to marrok “dying”
I am guessing that Marok is someone who we know of, killed in Order 66, resurrected by Morgan Elsbeth, set free by Ahsoka. Perhaps he would return in the form of the Force to repay Ahsoka by the end of this season.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 maybe but you don’t think shin’s reaction to him dying was important?
I wanted to see Huyang whip out a lightsaber last second to defeat that droid, but loved seeing him duke it out.
Seriously .. Dave Filoni is a genius. When he does the hire to the empire movie like that, then I will probably cry in the cinema.
This place is related to the Father, Daughter and Son, so the world between worlds can be made of pure Force just like Mortis, so Anakin can be there without any effort as a physical being but made of the Force. This is after Return of the Jedi so Anakin has reached full balance in the Force and this may explain his normal appearance and Vader's melody.
10:27 Sabine’s maturity and vision are clouded by trauma and by years of stagnation in life and procrastination of real healing and real mourning. Hera has a healthy relationship with Ezra’s disappearance and likely death, but Sabine has held onto the possibility of his survival for years and it has obstructed her grown as a person. This may be why Ahsoka left Sabine originally.
I’m scared for the next episode. Vader’s score + his lightsaber not being his episode 3, I’m not ready to lose Hayden againnnnn.
Edit: forgot to add if this is post ep 6, wouldn’t he be wearing his Jedi robes, not episode 3 dark tunic? Curious to see if this change actually matters.
Another one: DAMN
I'm scared too. So many people seem to have missed that small detail (like ashoka may) because they're so excited he's back
11:03 Baylan has really done his homework on his adversaries here. This shows just how cunning he is and how intuitive he is with The Force. He immediately can sense Sabines internal conflict and exploit it.
Perhaps what we're seeing in the World Betweeen Worlds is Annakin from shortly before he became Darth Vader - i.e. Annakin right before he completed his turn to the dark side. In that state Annakin would not really be a good influence on an Ahsoka who is skirting between the light and dark sides of the force.
Of course the cynic may also point out that this could be a way to justify the next Star Wars movie starting with "Somehow... Darth Vader returned"
I'm sensing Sabine will fall to the darkside the same way Anakin did.
The stances moved through the various forms. Baylon starts in form 3 but moves to form 7 after assessing her skill.
She looked frustrated to have to make the first move.
She was like, "Great, he uses form 3"
I think it wasn't form 7 but five, Shin also uses Djem so
@undyne4032 i thought form 5, but the ferocity and power had me second guess myself... Anakin typically switched to form 5 after a fight went too long.
Vader just sits in it.
But this guy...he uses the defense to get an idea of what form to get into. He may be a master of ALL forms.
I hope we find out he is.
@undyne4032 thats right form 7 is the flippy one yoda and maul use best...
@@pucknorris3473Yoda used form 4, which has the same start pose that qui gon and obi wan used in phantom menace, who both used form 4 at that point
it cant be form 7, beacuse form 7 does not retain on raw strength, but rather on cunningness, and complexity of changing planes of attack. Form 5 rely heavily on front facing, powerful blows, that are simple, but carry a lot of weight, and are concentrated on delivering that weight head-on.
is it just me but when Anakin says i didn't expect to see you so soon a reference to The Clone Wars episode when the Siege of Mandalore begins and The Rebels episode when Vader tells her this moment has been long awaited and that Anakin isn't Anakin but the brother of the dark side in Clone Wars or i am just seeing to much into it.
We knew it was coming. But what im really really really looking forward to, is to hear Hayden with not only more dialogue as Anakin.....but this is dialogue after epsiode 3.....present day....after our boy has come by from the darkside.....
He still has vader’s saber though, so that and the theme playing might hint to a fight of some sort
@@ZeykaFX possibly. I was very confused about Vaders theme playing of all things
I fully believe in recasting characters, whether it is because a legacy actor is too old or a smaller role actor is no longer available. Star Wars is art and an actor is not the character. Much respect and RIP to Ray Stevenson, but if they aren't done with the character arc they must recast.
and also Anikin dont have his original lightsaber
he has the lightsaber of Darth Vader on his belt
ahhh movie magic..... two metal robots were literally tin banging the ish outa each other and just a few ft away the people didn't even hear it happening......
When Baylan played on Sabine's attachment to Ezra, you compare it to Palpatine's manipulation if Anakin... but I immediately associated it with Vader manipulating Luke and his attachment to Leia in RoTJ.
I loved this episode. Baylan is the most interesting character for me. I just want to learn more and more about him, his past and his ways. Such a shame Stevenson was taken. RIP Ray. The next episode, directed by Filoni, is going to be a banger. Disney has so much confidence in it that they’re playing it in select theaters around the country.
I believe now that Anakin, as a force ghost used the world between worlds to save Ashoka. Like Ezra saved her. But the darth Vader theme played because maybe it’s not really anakin or maybe anakin will try to convince her to join the new empire.
I think at the least, they need to explore Baylan and Shin before the events of Ahsoka in comic or book form. This episode was my favorite thus far, it tied the other three episodes together nicely, while also opening up more room for the story to progress further.
It is a great shame that Ray is no longer with us and I would understand if they recast the character I just hope they choose a really good actor to do so but I'm also okay with them killing him off if they choose that path. This was definitely my favorite episode so far and I loved it. I'm excited for the next one as well.
Ray needs to stay as long as he can. While Ray certainly is unique in his own way, I bet that there will be a actor to step in and bring him further along.
Sideous said the world between worlds is the confines of life and death meaning the living and dead can coexists there together....that is our Anakin we see and not a ghosts...The world between worlds is not the living world and either the netherworld...
In Star Wars canon, I believe, Qui-Gon Jinn, discovered the world between worlds, and that’s how Jedis become force spirits and the only way you could become a force spirit is, if you knew both the light and dark side of the force, which every force spirit we’ve seen has tapped into the Darkside at one point Quagen when he cheated to get the dice rolling, Obi-Wan, giving into his love for his brother on Mustafá and even Yoda when he felt ultimate dread after he was defeated by the emperor
So now I’m curious about the whole force ghost & world between worlds stuff.
So when someone becomes a force ghost do they then reside in the world between worlds and that is how they are able to interact with the living world?
If that is the case and Ahsoka was brought to the world between worlds twice now, does that mean that a Jedi doesn’t necessarily need to learn how to become a force ghost and that someone who is already a force ghost could bring a dying Jedi over and essentially turn them into a force ghost for them?
Which could explain how Anakin became a force ghost without knowing how to do it himself, by Obi-wan bringing him over as he passed?
Or at the very least a force ghost obviously has access to the world between worlds and can bring someone over from the living world and then from there teach them how to become a force ghost?
I think it’s funny that you didn’t mention the first time we actually saw the ghost in live action… was rogue one lol
I’m really proud of myself for immediately noticing that Anakin is carrying Vader’s lightsaber. I’m starting to wonder if this means we’ll get a Vader cameo in the next episode.
Same!!! I'm scared it's the son, or Vader or something..trying to escape the world between worlds. So many videos, so many comments and not many people have noticed this!!
Looking forward to it as well, wasn’t sure if it was vaders lightsaber though I thought that one was hung from the top down.
what a episode, loved the end, even hearing Vaders Theme just before the episode is over
We need Balin to stay in Star Wars canon, regardless of who plays him rest in peace Ray Stevenson, an awesome actor, but to lose a character like this in a one off series would be a greater tragedy for an over arcing story. We all excepted Don Cheadle‘s as war machine in marvel after he was re-casted, and as long as they stay true to the actual character, the actor doesn’t matter who plays him.
Showing how much time it took with direct lightsaber contact to destroy the star map I think suggests that even if Sabine had tried to destroy the thing with her blaster it wouldn't have worked and they just would have killed. Sabine
I would be ok with Shin commenting on the demise of Baylon between seasons if it comes to it and her taking over, being a bit more unhinged than he was, since she never really got the jedi side of the training. I cannot fathom someone replacing Rey after the performance he is putting in.
Episode 5 is Rosiaro's favorite according to the rumors.
Indeed seeing Anakin got me with tears in my eyes. This live action encounter was foretold and it was amazing... baylan is a damn good character and so well done by Ray. The only bad thing was Starkiller being starkilled, sadly he was just a night sister wraith...
The Vader theme gave me CRAZY goosebumps
RIP Ray. I think actor replacement can still work for this character. Kinda like a Dumbledore continuity (no need to work anything into the plot - we all know what's happened IRL). Because Baylan is becoming such a beloved character, it would be a fitting tribute to Ray to keep his original portrayal of the character immortalised by keeping the character alive in universe. Unless the character has already become one with the force in the future episodes.
Baylan has a big role to play in future Ahsoka, Mandalorian series & the final movie.
@@LittleBigMediaCo Awesome! I really like his mystique and quasi-neutrality. Definitely keen to see more of Baylan. Certainly not an easy character to re-cast. Fingers crossed the force finds a way!
John Krasinski looks like Ray Stevenson. I think he would be a good replacement
@@PEZ1514I was thinking Tom holland tbh
@@openingdown3051 Tom holland is to short.
3:47 that's not Alan Tudyk,that's Brendan Wayne,the actor/stuntman that actually wears Mando's costume most of the time
Few actors have owned a role as Ray did. A tribute to his presence. And how many of us could watch a series based on his character? Oh, and… Droid fight! Droid fight!
She's not dead. She was pulled into WBW by Anakin before she hit the ground imo.
I know how they would keep Baylan without killing him...let's just say he could have a transformation of sorts....
@star wars comics: Where is Ashoka's owl? She inherited it from Sister when she gave her life energy for Ashoka. We saw the owl in Clone Wars final run and in Rebels. Where is the owl in this series? What is the significance of it not being included?
Anakin has Vader's lightsaber on his belt too. Probably Ahsoka will have a chat with Darth Vader as well
Baylon the actor Ray is absolutely amazing! So tragic that he passed away IRL but I am okay with both recasting or killing him off screen.
R.i.p ray he's killing it
From what I can gather marrok it’s either a former sith apprentice who figured how to use the dark side to stay alive in a smoke like form this why he was in the armor… we have seen this in the animated show with yoda and a former Sith Lord
the burn inside Ahsoka's hand is reminiscent of Indiana Jones. She'll probably have an imprint of the map on her skin.
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me right back in.
Made me cry as well..... and I'm proud of that. 👊👊
The greater good. Basically thr Thrawn books from Timothy ... I'm so happy for star wars finally
Uh, you forgot one thing Star Wars Comics, The Ghost also made an appearance in Rogue One.
I broke at “hey Snips…” 😢😊 What an amazing moment.
Baylan accepts that Thrawn will bring war, but believes the power he aims to gain from his participation, is bigger than the negatives of that war.
That can only be a few things. Baylan must believe that will have the power to go back and erase Order 66, The sith capture of the republic, and ensure that Thrawn never rises to power in any way. The 'greater good' he keeps talking about. Enter the World between Worlds and the 'pathway to Peridea'.
Dave might even be able to 'erase' the poor Disney sequels and make Georges original ideas in the 'corrected universe'.
The ghost appeared also in Rogue One
That robot fight was like watching a live action Rock em Sock Em Robots..LOL
That took 40 years!!! Yeah I cried when I saw it too. Like couldn't believe it was finally happening
Ahsoka Show is Amazing Star Wars is Back BABY !!!!!!!!!!
Annakin also has Vader's light sabre on his belt...
I don’t think anakin is real in this because he doesn’t have his infamous scar on his eye
waiting the whole repair scene for the droid to ask for a sonic screwdriver....
ANAKIN RETURNS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
7:38 let’s not forget that “few” in canon know who Vader _actually_ was. This may be retconned at some point but the fact that Ahsoka didn’t know Vader was Anakin until the duel in Rebels clearly shows that Vader’s identity was clearly not public knowledge.
X Wing Pilot is the stunt Mandalorian not the voice of K2. Fyi
Great channel
It is horrible that Stephenson is dead I only learned it through this video and a lot to take in. But still I hope baelon survives the season, although I think Stephenson was the perfect cast for this, I really see the new joruus c‘baoth in him and that character has much to do still. But I have no idea who could take over from Stephenson and carry it like he did :/
Heartbreaking Ray is gone.
Heartwarming to see Hayden.