Seriously why is Gamma's story so good? I vividly remember as a child snapping to attention as Gamma watched his pit dog brother being dismantled and rebuilt as the literal weapon he is, and the somber tone just letting you take it all in. . . It's like Sonic Heart of Darkness Edition out of fucking no where, it's amazing. You just walk into a Silent Hill room first level in one of the character's standalone stories in a sonic game. Completely removed from the rest of the game. Was the writer just depressed or ballsy that day is what I wonder.
The story of sonic adventure is in general pretty good. However for as much as i love the english voice cast i have to admit they have gotten a pretty badly done script. The english translation is full of weird errors and stuff like that and the cutscenes dont really help with how they look. If you actually read this i would recommend using the retranslated mod for Sonic Adventure and putting the voices on Japanesse (i am not a weeb i just find it weird to have the english voices with retranslated subtitles on). Same goes for Adventure 2 it has a fantastic story and while it is slightly less broken in translation it still can be a bit rough.
@@poffzy bc nasally pc dweebs that pump out hours of retrospectives appeal to mass audiences better than actual reviews. I can at least like geek critique bc he's super passionate about what he talks about but he uploads so rarely
This is actually an amazing analysis. I'm so tired of people just repeating the game's technical weaknesses while completely ignoring its strengths. This review was good because it acknowledges that the game isn't perfect but it also has some strong points. The structural analysis goes beyond "hurr hurr cutscenes look dumb" and I appreciate that.
You’re the first one i’ve heard on YT finally bring up Sega trying to sell fishing games by including Big. They ran so many magazine ads about fishing games back then.
Now that I think of it, I remember fishing games being pushed super hard on the Dreamcast, in ads, magazines, and in every game you bought seemed to have a fishing game pamphlet in it. As a kid it just confused me.
Funny enough that whole "keep your momentum with homing attacks if you hold the button down on impact" idea got implemented into a recent additive homing attack mod for Generations.
Sonic Adventure's a broken mess but it's got more heart in its pinky than most companies catalogs can manage in their entire lifetimes. I can't bring myself to hate a game that's trying this hard in spite of its technical issues.
There's nothing like turning Station Square into your personal skate park, you can ramp off stuff, run on the sides of buildings, go boundary breaking, it's great.
@Grumpoo Da Zumbie One of my favorite things to do in that game is to try and wallrun and break out of bounds in Station Square, the physics engine actually allows some really fun tricks once you get the hang of it.
@Grumpoo Da Zumbie that's honestly why i perfer adventure over any other 3d game, the physics are the closest, 3d sonic got to the perfection of the classic physics
>Full Sail has a 55% overall graduation rate and a 21.1% student loan default rate,[45] higher than the national student loan default rate of 11.3%.[46] It is also listed on the Century Foundation's website as a university which includes restrictive clauses in the enrollment contracts, which are intended to minimize the legal recourse available to students in the event of disputes.[47] bruh
It's really insane, and it frustrates me how youtube people were promoting Full Sail for awhile, and convinced a bunch of impressionable kids that it's the "best place" to get into game development. If you want to be a game developer then pick up animation or get a degree in programming (or CS if you want to get deeper into things happening more under the hood). If you pick up a skill like that and start making some small games in Unity or Godot or Game Maker for a portfolio, you can absolutely find companies that will want to hire you. I've talked with a couple game local development companies where I live and they consistently bring up that they don't care where you went to school, or your degree or anything like that, they just want good people who are passionate, have so experience with development, and willing to learn what they need to be productive in the company. The only thing a school like Full Sail might get you is some connections, but even then Digipen is a much better school for that purpose, and it's just not worth dealing with a sketchy institution like that.
@@RunningShine This is what makes you so good, dude. You've even given me recommendations and think things through before putting them in videos. It gives me more inspiration to be a game developer. Don't worry though, I'll be sure not to leave too many unfinished projects.
If the script on YIIK I'm writing is anything to go off of, that is going to be absolutely massive. If it gets too long I'll have to end up making timestamps for all the different parts so I don't end up wasting anybody's time. It's going to a be quite a ride for sure since I'm going through the whole game.
@@RunningShine And yet it's a video I can't stop playing over and over again. It's really well made, and the perfect background noise to listen to while I do other stuff.
@@NintendanGX for some reason that YIIK review has a special place in my heart. I always go back and listen to that video like 4 times a month now. just everything from shine's personality and speech patterns kinda captivates me and it's like the perfect backround noise because somehow it's entertaining even if I'm not paying attention. It's really well designed to be easy on the ears or some shit. It gives me nostalgia somehow; just a very homey video.
I believe your disk has scraids. It's when a disc gets so scratched/scuffed/gooped-up that the very fabric of the game's reality starts to warp, distort and teleport randomly around in time.
I like that you apply constructive criticism in your reviews and remain positive without being either self congratulatory performatively angry. It works really well.
Yeah most reviewers come of as snarky fart sniffers that treat their video game opinions as the only enlightened one that matters. While this dude comes off as chill and down to earth.
Damn, when I saw the runtime I didn't expect it to be this dense. An hour and a half of fully planned and scripted content is reaching matthewmatosis levels of discipline. It was a really entertaining and comfy video and surprisingly funny, though I may just be biased because I think I just have the same sense of humor. Notably, never found myself getting tired or skipping around. Honest to god just sat there for the whole fuckin hour I've gotta be honest, this might inspire me to start making videos again. I tried a couple of times but just found second-guessing and writer's block to be real killers. On the other hand though this seemed fun as shit to work on and was entertaining to watch from start to finish. Planning on streaming any more? There was that one time with katamari that was super chill, and then TH-cam went down at the worst possible time for like an entire day. Was sad but kind of hilarious in just how badly timed it was. Anyway streams could be a chill way to just relax with people and play games while you talk about random topics that aren't big enough for their own videos.
The review was a lot of fun to make! Although it was very tiring and by the end I was definitely ready for it to be over. I wanted to be thorough with this game as I feel like I haven't seen my perspective on it shared too commonly and I wanted to try and articulate as best I could my opinions on it without the strange baggage that people carry around when talking about Sonic games. Absolutely try working on something you feel passion for, I'm the kind of person who always needs to be busy with something so working on these videos gives me something fun to do after finishing some work on my game or school. You just gotta make sure that what you're making is the kind of content you really want, since writing this review I already know what I want to do next and it will be slightly different than the way this one was structured and I have ideas for improvements already. I think you can try to appeal to an audience of some kind but I think if you do that you'll fall into the second guessing stuff a lot more since you can't be in their heads. Maybe it will take longer to get the recognition you want, but I think if you write something you love and put your heart into you'll eventually get an audience you'll be happy to have, and you'll be actually excited to make content for them and improve at what you do. Streaming is a lot of fun! I loved doing it last time since I had Post Elvis and Tropics with me to read off the chat and have fun with everybody while talking about interesting stuff, kind of sad you weren't able to be there since I do remember you from the Katamari stream. I'd love to do another one with both of them before I start having to get back on my school work in a week. Thanks!
@@RunningShine you have this odd balance in your delivery that I like. You sound like Norm MacDonald and Mr plinkett. It's a combo I didn't know would sound so good
55:20 only part of the game is set on angel island, specifically the area with ice cap and red mountain, angel island falling is actually what causes the wall to blow up in the Mystic Ruins.
That tangent about youtube reviewers at the beginning really made me revaluate who i spent my time watching, I can just feel their delusions of grandeur, like they all think they're gonna be the ones to save the entertainment industry by being obnoxious assholes who outright refuse to learn the simplest things about the development behind games or movies or whichever, or spending more time bitching about inconsequential shit than enjoying life. It's almost funny really, they complain about games journalist yet take every page out of their books. Your channel's a real refresher.
I know you said this wasn't meant to be a definitive review of Sonic Adventure, but I don't know if there's any other review of the game that features an MS paint drawing of Sonic assassinating JFK to explain how the homing attack works.
I've never seen anyone bring up the weird music change during the Perfect Chaos fight until now. I honestly thought I was the only one who was irked by that.
This channel appeared in my recommendations as of recent and i was kind of expecting it to be another over inflated video with molasses paced claims and a condescending tone to boot. Instead, i find a nicely concise analysis, or general thoughts, on a video game from one of my favorite franchises that feel really open for discussion. I'm really glad you went into some design aspects on how things could work in theory and tried to avoid as much vague terminology as possible when discussing about sonic adventure's design. It's also cool to see you explain who made what in the game as it gives developers more of a spotlight and shows their talents that could give people a found appreciation for the developer in question. Although i wished it was a bit more consistent cause sometimes you specify on what dev did this and on the other you bring up sonic team without pinpointing what part of sonic team did this portion (i.e programming, art, designers). In despite of that, i enjoyed this video through and through; i am currently studying the ideas of game design to build my own personal indie project that i had been holding onto for a very long time. But i want to start things small and learn the fundamentals before i start working on the project so seeing flow charts and visual examples enlightened me quite a bit. In hindsight and again, good video my guy.
Thank you! I'd love to talk about everybody who works in these games, I hate being general and just using the studio blankly, but it can be very hard to figure out who did what at times, especially when it comes to the programmers/engineers. It can be very easy to figure out who did what with something like music because they get credited for not just being musicians, but also what tracks they worked on. Whereas with programmers you don't really know what aspect of the game they were assigned to do, it could be character physics, the logic for menu systems, event flags, collision, and many other things. I know that if I talk about a game in the future that only has one sole programmer though I'll be making sure to refer to them specifically when talking about how a certain aspect might have been programmed. Also on the topic of game development. My first CS professor gave me a great piece of advice when he said to start solving your problems algorithmically first. That is, make a set of instructions that the computer will go through to solve the issue before writing a single line of code, and once your down articulating and understanding the problems, then start using your engine and language to implement that solution. Doing this has made it possible for me to solve fairly complex problems a lot easier. Also make sure to learn debugging so that when you run into an unexpected bug or error in your game the whole project won't just get screwed. You can get pretty far by just going through the code that you think might be causing the problem and printing variables to the console to see if they're acting right, that usually catches around 90% of any bug I'm having.
Just binged all of your videos and ended up having the best time I’ve ever had on youtube in a long ass time. Your balance of unfiltered jokes and reviewing all with a personal charm is so goddamn refreshing to see
Loved the review, only thing i would have added was touching upon the ending to tails story. I know it would have ruined the bit but seeing tails go from being someone who can't even cross the street without sonic holding his hand to growing a pair and stopping Eggman who's completely done at this point, abandoning the chaos idea and deciding to just nuke the city instead was a really cool growth. And the way Eggman delivered his lines at that point was great too Watched all your other reviews after seeing this one and it's a great channel, i was left craving more after seeing there was only 5 reviews but seeing the amount of heart, effort and time put into each one it makes sense and I'd say I'm not the only one wishing for more, seeing your views jump from 6k to 190k in just a few videos is amazing, if there's more to come in the future then i definitely look forward to it
You probably already know this shit by now but in the GameCube rerealease Cream The Rabbit will appear in Station Square once every story after completing certain stages. (Or in Amy's case immediately after starting her campaign.) It's even heavily implied she's the one who drops the ice key that Sonic, Tails and Big pick up for Ice Cap. I hope this arc is explored even further with Cream's own story mode if Sonic Adventure were to get a remake. (As long as she doesn't encounter any two tailed foxes sitting on benches, that is.)
48:27 I like how you threw in that state machine explanation in there ahaha, ya'll should throw in stuff like that in videos I think it's cool if people who might not know the behind the scenes stuff of programming get to learn too.
one thing I love about this video is the friendliness of it, it feels less like some detached review and more like an art piece. Sometimes when you get some music from a small artist they'll include a little note thanking you for listening and buying their shit. The state machine bit and the extra music at the end gives this feeling a lot. it's like we're getting a little extra stuff to the video.
Excellent review / overview. My only complaint is that you somehow missed the fact that Big the Cat is voiced Jon St John - or how us boomer-shooter fans know him, Duke Nukem.
I'm currently on a binge of your reviews and I'm having a lot of fun. I love how you consistently give ideas to improve a game (the YIIK review is the best example of this so far) and your passion for critiquing is so clear. You give credit where credit is due and your videos are fair, visibly show what's right and wrong. I didn't think I would ever watch a review over 10 minutes, but your videos are worth it. Subbed; I hope you make it big some day. You deserve it for all the effort and love you put into your content.
I think I must have watched this video half a dozen times across several years and I just now realized the drawing at 17:23 was the JFK assassination. I laughed so hard that I started crying.
fun fact: hardware issues and sonic adventure *are* actually related, some levels like windy valley had to be simplified for final version of the game due to the dreamcasts used for testing just not being able to run them correctly, either due to lag or other hardware problems.
According to a Retro Gamer interview, the actual reason is that they couldn't "clean up" the huge original Windy Valley in time, so Takashi Iizuka remade it from scratch.
36:13 This is honestly the reason why I started programming too. All the weird janky programming "magic" really captured my attention as a kid. It was fun to just completely go into places that I'm not supposed to be. And I think a lot of people would agree with this sentiment as well. It's just as interesting as seeing a graphically heavy game being optimized like crazy.
49:38 According to an unused Tikal voice clip, at one point it was possible to turn into Super Sonic in action stages by pressing B while jumping with at least 50 rings.
Excellently made video! A nice balance of lightheartedness and substance. I thoroughly enjoy both yours and Joseph Anderson's reviews for the well-crafted rundowns. While his content is much more formal and step-by-step, yours is much more free-form and personal. Keep up the excellent, work! You're showing up in my recommended so it seems like you've got some good favour in TH-cam's books.
Gamma probably isn't the bird, even if the bird powering him has some subconscious connection to him. Not to get all ERM ACHSHUALLY just saying it because it does more for his character if he recognizes that his existence is parasitic and that he's finally allowed to die in peace, fittingly alone after departing from the main cast and completing his mission of liberating his brothers. Also, I love this channel. I find myself relistening to your stuff pretty regularly. What keeps me coming back is how clearly passionate you are about the things you appreciate, measured with fair criticisms.
Nice to see you're finally back. I was actually really looking forward to a Sonic 2 vid, but Adventure obviously make for a more interesting sequel. Your humour and delivery is always on point and I appreciate how you can mix in some genuinely good points and ideas about the games you review. It gives the video a more lighthearted tone, which makes it both memorable and I think easier to take in, despite the length. A lot of TH-cam video game essayists tend to be either too dry or too ''TH-camr funny'' if you know what I mean. You've got a good balance.
There were a few little things that bugged me in this review, but all in all I dig the amount of work you put into it, and I enjoyed the overall analysis. These kind of videos shouldn’t go unnoticed.
"Chaos 4 is completely unchanged" Um ackchyually he has slightly less health when you fight him as Tails. I can't believe you've led me astray like this. How can I trust anything you say now :(
Great video man if all your videos are gonna be this good and long, I think we're gonna have a beautiful relationship of youtuber and viewer. Like seriously man I love your humor lol
Holy shit I knew I was still subscribed to you for a reason. After your THUG review I thought for sure you'd abandoned the channel, but I'm so happy to see this. You have a serious talent for this stuff, I hope you continue to make more videos in the future.
Dude, you are a ducking legend. I watch this video once a month just for comedy alone. A review that doesn’t take itself seriously. You have to come back and do a review for adventure 2
Unfortunately, it seems to be the opposite situation. The low level guys are having a hard time finding employment unless they can break into embedded systems or find a gig doing work on Arm processors. The big money and demand at the moment seems to be in high level web frameworks like Node or ASP. A lot of those jobs require basically no low level knowledge, and I guess you don’t technically need that understanding to do the job, but it’s led to a lot of the modern web being full of unoptimized code which is a shame. I’m haven’t looked into the games industry too much since there’s a lot of better industries for doing a day job as a dev, but from what I’ve seen, they seem to care a lot about your portfolio and knowledge of modern engines like Unity and Unreal. Things vary from company to company though, and especially if you want to be a graphics engineer you’re going to need to know how to work with OpenGL in C, and probably Vulkan too if you’re with a cutting-edge company, so there’s still some options out there. Also I agree with your previous comment, there’s a lot of great games on the Saturn like Bulk Slash or Radiant Silvergun that were lost in obscurity thanks to never being released outside of Japan. I'm surprised at how far Saturn emulation has progressed considering how fucked up the architecture is in that console, hopefully it keeps going so more games can play perfectly and people can discover the fantastic library it has.
@@RunningShine Just looking at coding/programming always intimidated the hell out of me. I was jealous of people who could make sense of it all. As for the Saturn, I only just last year finally played scenario's 2 and 3 of Shining Force 3. It was a literal dream come true, as ever since I was a kid I lamented that I could never finish the damn game! Even tried learning Japanese in no small part because of it. I remembered always hearing back in the day how Saturn emulators were borked and I'm glad things have come so far. I just need to get Dragonforce 2 up and running now. :P
i played shadow the hedgehog when it came out on gamecube and i loved it. i still love that game. the versus mode was kinda crappy but it was still fun
This review was so far ahead of its time, having now played Frontiers SO many of the comments about the movement and particularly making enemies "fun" to engage with apply to it. Dude's like Sonic Team's personal Nostradamus.
The biggest improvement from sa1 to sa2 is the light speed dash. It being an instantaneous button press instead of having to charge it up helps the game flow a lot.
14:36 Here's the fun part, they didn't. The Japanese version of the script is the same in terms of dialogue in all campaigns (except for the obvious parts where Eggman speaks to Tails), they just translated the same text differently for every campaign for some reason
Actually. That was something they added in the international versions. They actually accommodated for the new scripts by adding new scenes to the cutscenes.
Goodness. I got major flashbacks to TheGamingBritShow's video on the Ratchet and Clank reboot when you pointed out how much Sonic talks in the newer games. Honestly, makes me kinda appreciate when a game doesn't have people talking mid-gameplay. It can work if done right, not gonna say it's a bad idea out the gate, but I'd rather get an idea of their character from their actions, leave the dialogue to cutscenes and stuff, and just immerse myself in the game world.
“Everyone talks like a ransom note” is the best way I’ve ever heard this game’s voice acting described
I legit laughed out loud when I heard that
Kingdom Hearts is the same shit lol
Except Eggman, the only character the cheesy script lends itself to, and part of that is because of how dedicated his VA is to haming it up.
Seriously why is Gamma's story so good? I vividly remember as a child snapping to attention as Gamma watched his pit dog brother being dismantled and rebuilt as the literal weapon he is, and the somber tone just letting you take it all in. . . It's like Sonic Heart of Darkness Edition out of fucking no where, it's amazing.
You just walk into a Silent Hill room first level in one of the character's standalone stories in a sonic game. Completely removed from the rest of the game. Was the writer just depressed or ballsy that day is what I wonder.
The story of sonic adventure is in general pretty good. However for as much as i love the english voice cast i have to admit they have gotten a pretty badly done script. The english translation is full of weird errors and stuff like that and the cutscenes dont really help with how they look. If you actually read this i would recommend using the retranslated mod for Sonic Adventure and putting the voices on Japanesse (i am not a weeb i just find it weird to have the english voices with retranslated subtitles on). Same goes for Adventure 2 it has a fantastic story and while it is slightly less broken in translation it still can be a bit rough.
1:00:50 that black guy needed money for Sonic Mania.
As a black guy myself I can agree that that's what we do when we like a game.
I love how COMING is emphasized with DSP Blowing his savings on stream
Honestly man you're so good, its a war-crime how under the radar your channel is.
High praise from the Spice God. Love your content, man.
the honestly is like the spice, you just can't ignore it
It has to be under the radar unfortunately, because while explicit jelqing videos are allowed on TH-cam, comedy with any sort of edge is not.
Honest to god idk how its possible
@@poffzy bc nasally pc dweebs that pump out hours of retrospectives appeal to mass audiences better than actual reviews. I can at least like geek critique bc he's super passionate about what he talks about but he uploads so rarely
This is actually an amazing analysis. I'm so tired of people just repeating the game's technical weaknesses while completely ignoring its strengths.
This review was good because it acknowledges that the game isn't perfect but it also has some strong points. The structural analysis goes beyond "hurr hurr cutscenes look dumb" and I appreciate that.
You’re the first one i’ve heard on YT finally bring up Sega trying to sell fishing games by including Big. They ran so many magazine ads about fishing games back then.
Not surprising the Dreamcast had water Effects superior to any competition on the marked at the time.
Now that I think of it, I remember fishing games being pushed super hard on the Dreamcast, in ads, magazines, and in every game you bought seemed to have a fishing game pamphlet in it.
As a kid it just confused me.
Funny enough that whole "keep your momentum with homing attacks if you hold the button down on impact" idea got implemented into a recent additive homing attack mod for Generations.
RaikohZX there are also a few mod characters for a fangame called srb2 that have their homing attack work like this, it's pretty cool
it's also how neo sonic, an addon to srb2, works
what a great start to 2019.
It was all downhill from there.
how was ur 2019, 2020 been shit
Hey j thanks for recommending this channel and all the content and merch you put out too :)
Sonic Adventure's a broken mess but it's got more heart in its pinky than most companies catalogs can manage in their entire lifetimes. I can't bring myself to hate a game that's trying this hard in spite of its technical issues.
it's why I love a lot of pre-boost, post-classic era Sonic, in spite of a lot of weak entries. even when he sucked, he did it with style
There's nothing like turning Station Square into your personal skate park, you can ramp off stuff, run on the sides of buildings, go boundary breaking, it's great.
@Grumpoo Da Zumbie One of my favorite things to do in that game is to try and wallrun and break out of bounds in Station Square, the physics engine actually allows some really fun tricks once you get the hang of it.
Broken mess? Just because you run into 12 glitches doesn’t mean it’s broken
@Grumpoo Da Zumbie that's honestly why i perfer adventure over any other 3d game, the physics are the closest, 3d sonic got to the perfection of the classic physics
>Full Sail has a 55% overall graduation rate and a 21.1% student loan default rate,[45] higher than the national student loan default rate of 11.3%.[46] It is also listed on the Century Foundation's website as a university which includes restrictive clauses in the enrollment contracts, which are intended to minimize the legal recourse available to students in the event of disputes.[47]
bruh
It's really insane, and it frustrates me how youtube people were promoting Full Sail for awhile, and convinced a bunch of impressionable kids that it's the "best place" to get into game development.
If you want to be a game developer then pick up animation or get a degree in programming (or CS if you want to get deeper into things happening more under the hood). If you pick up a skill like that and start making some small games in Unity or Godot or Game Maker for a portfolio, you can absolutely find companies that will want to hire you. I've talked with a couple game local development companies where I live and they consistently bring up that they don't care where you went to school, or your degree or anything like that, they just want good people who are passionate, have so experience with development, and willing to learn what they need to be productive in the company.
The only thing a school like Full Sail might get you is some connections, but even then Digipen is a much better school for that purpose, and it's just not worth dealing with a sketchy institution like that.
@@fairheadcrab5984 Thanks man!
@@RunningShine every game industry person ive met pretty much only cares about your portfolio. this is good advice.
@@RunningShine This is what makes you so good, dude. You've even given me recommendations and think things through before putting them in videos. It gives me more inspiration to be a game developer. Don't worry though, I'll be sure not to leave too many unfinished projects.
Is that ripped straight from wiki lol
What a time sink. I love it
If the script on YIIK I'm writing is anything to go off of, that is going to be absolutely massive. If it gets too long I'll have to end up making timestamps for all the different parts so I don't end up wasting anybody's time. It's going to a be quite a ride for sure since I'm going through the whole game.
@@RunningShine don't cut out anything. The longer the better
@@RunningShine And yet it's a video I can't stop playing over and over again. It's really well made, and the perfect background noise to listen to while I do other stuff.
Bufudyne I agree with bufudyne it’s a great vid dude
@@NintendanGX for some reason that YIIK review has a special place in my heart. I always go back and listen to that video like 4 times a month now. just everything from shine's personality and speech patterns kinda captivates me and it's like the perfect backround noise because somehow it's entertaining even if I'm not paying attention. It's really well designed to be easy on the ears or some shit. It gives me nostalgia somehow; just a very homey video.
I believe your disk has scraids. It's when a disc gets so scratched/scuffed/gooped-up that the very fabric of the game's reality starts to warp, distort and teleport randomly around in time.
I like that you apply constructive criticism in your reviews and remain positive without being either self congratulatory performatively angry. It works really well.
Yeah most reviewers come of as snarky fart sniffers that treat their video game opinions as the only enlightened one that matters. While this dude comes off as chill and down to earth.
2:34 - "The Importance of Sonic Adventure: Why It Matters"
In my headcanon, Mr. Know-It-All died when Station Square was flooded, but his brain was recovered and placed into Omochao.
Damn, when I saw the runtime I didn't expect it to be this dense. An hour and a half of fully planned and scripted content is reaching matthewmatosis levels of discipline. It was a really entertaining and comfy video and surprisingly funny, though I may just be biased because I think I just have the same sense of humor. Notably, never found myself getting tired or skipping around. Honest to god just sat there for the whole fuckin hour
I've gotta be honest, this might inspire me to start making videos again. I tried a couple of times but just found second-guessing and writer's block to be real killers. On the other hand though this seemed fun as shit to work on and was entertaining to watch from start to finish.
Planning on streaming any more? There was that one time with katamari that was super chill, and then TH-cam went down at the worst possible time for like an entire day. Was sad but kind of hilarious in just how badly timed it was. Anyway streams could be a chill way to just relax with people and play games while you talk about random topics that aren't big enough for their own videos.
The review was a lot of fun to make! Although it was very tiring and by the end I was definitely ready for it to be over. I wanted to be thorough with this game as I feel like I haven't seen my perspective on it shared too commonly and I wanted to try and articulate as best I could my opinions on it without the strange baggage that people carry around when talking about Sonic games.
Absolutely try working on something you feel passion for, I'm the kind of person who always needs to be busy with something so working on these videos gives me something fun to do after finishing some work on my game or school. You just gotta make sure that what you're making is the kind of content you really want, since writing this review I already know what I want to do next and it will be slightly different than the way this one was structured and I have ideas for improvements already. I think you can try to appeal to an audience of some kind but I think if you do that you'll fall into the second guessing stuff a lot more since you can't be in their heads. Maybe it will take longer to get the recognition you want, but I think if you write something you love and put your heart into you'll eventually get an audience you'll be happy to have, and you'll be actually excited to make content for them and improve at what you do.
Streaming is a lot of fun! I loved doing it last time since I had Post Elvis and Tropics with me to read off the chat and have fun with everybody while talking about interesting stuff, kind of sad you weren't able to be there since I do remember you from the Katamari stream. I'd love to do another one with both of them before I start having to get back on my school work in a week.
Thanks!
@@RunningShine you have this odd balance in your delivery that I like. You sound like Norm MacDonald and Mr plinkett. It's a combo I didn't know would sound so good
@@RunningShine still waiting for the Sonic Adventure 2 review, Mr. Running or Mr. Shine what ever you prefer please return to TH-cam! :)
55:20 only part of the game is set on angel island, specifically the area with ice cap and red mountain, angel island falling is actually what causes the wall to blow up in the Mystic Ruins.
I never even considered the idea that the cliff blowing up in the Mystic Ruins was because of Angel Island falling. That's so cool.
That tangent about youtube reviewers at the beginning really made me revaluate who i spent my time watching, I can just feel their delusions of grandeur, like they all think they're gonna be the ones to save the entertainment industry by being obnoxious assholes who outright refuse to learn the simplest things about the development behind games or movies or whichever, or spending more time bitching about inconsequential shit than enjoying life. It's almost funny really, they complain about games journalist yet take every page out of their books. Your channel's a real refresher.
I know you said this wasn't meant to be a definitive review of Sonic Adventure, but I don't know if there's any other review of the game that features an MS paint drawing of Sonic assassinating JFK to explain how the homing attack works.
I could sense the wallet joke coming and it still got me. Gold
I've never seen anyone bring up the weird music change during the Perfect Chaos fight until now. I honestly thought I was the only one who was irked by that.
Everyone has always hated this
On PC, there is specifically a mod that was made to change it, plenty of people cared.
@@hoodedman6579 like, a fan made version?
@@laststrike4411 Sonic Adventure is on PC. Official version; fanmade mod.
as a kid, i thought it made sense, but now i can kind of understand why it's irksome
if sonic actually had a podcast, I would probably listen to it
What would he talk about
This channel appeared in my recommendations as of recent and i was kind of expecting it to be another over inflated video with molasses paced claims and a condescending tone to boot.
Instead, i find a nicely concise analysis, or general thoughts, on a video game from one of my favorite franchises that feel really open for discussion.
I'm really glad you went into some design aspects on how things could work in theory and tried to avoid as much vague terminology as possible when discussing about sonic adventure's design.
It's also cool to see you explain who made what in the game as it gives developers more of a spotlight and shows their talents that could give people a found appreciation for the developer in question. Although i wished it was a bit more consistent cause sometimes you specify on what dev did this and on the other you bring up sonic team without pinpointing what part of sonic team did this portion (i.e programming, art, designers). In despite of that, i enjoyed this video through and through; i am currently studying the ideas of game design to build my own personal indie project that i had been holding onto for a very long time. But i want to start things small and learn the fundamentals before i start working on the project so seeing flow charts and visual examples enlightened me quite a bit. In hindsight and again, good video my guy.
Thank you!
I'd love to talk about everybody who works in these games, I hate being general and just using the studio blankly, but it can be very hard to figure out who did what at times, especially when it comes to the programmers/engineers. It can be very easy to figure out who did what with something like music because they get credited for not just being musicians, but also what tracks they worked on. Whereas with programmers you don't really know what aspect of the game they were assigned to do, it could be character physics, the logic for menu systems, event flags, collision, and many other things. I know that if I talk about a game in the future that only has one sole programmer though I'll be making sure to refer to them specifically when talking about how a certain aspect might have been programmed.
Also on the topic of game development. My first CS professor gave me a great piece of advice when he said to start solving your problems algorithmically first. That is, make a set of instructions that the computer will go through to solve the issue before writing a single line of code, and once your down articulating and understanding the problems, then start using your engine and language to implement that solution. Doing this has made it possible for me to solve fairly complex problems a lot easier. Also make sure to learn debugging so that when you run into an unexpected bug or error in your game the whole project won't just get screwed. You can get pretty far by just going through the code that you think might be causing the problem and printing variables to the console to see if they're acting right, that usually catches around 90% of any bug I'm having.
Just binged all of your videos and ended up having the best time I’ve ever had on youtube in a long ass time. Your balance of unfiltered jokes and reviewing all with a personal charm is so goddamn refreshing to see
Loved the review, only thing i would have added was touching upon the ending to tails story. I know it would have ruined the bit but seeing tails go from being someone who can't even cross the street without sonic holding his hand to growing a pair and stopping Eggman who's completely done at this point, abandoning the chaos idea and deciding to just nuke the city instead was a really cool growth. And the way Eggman delivered his lines at that point was great too
Watched all your other reviews after seeing this one and it's a great channel, i was left craving more after seeing there was only 5 reviews but seeing the amount of heart, effort and time put into each one it makes sense and I'd say I'm not the only one wishing for more, seeing your views jump from 6k to 190k in just a few videos is amazing, if there's more to come in the future then i definitely look forward to it
This video feels like super old school TH-cam in a good way
Sonic Adventure had a 10 month development cycle. It still blows my mind.
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Yuji Naka is going to prison
You probably already know this shit by now but in the GameCube rerealease Cream The Rabbit will appear in Station Square once every story after completing certain stages. (Or in Amy's case immediately after starting her campaign.)
It's even heavily implied she's the one who drops the ice key that Sonic, Tails and Big pick up for Ice Cap. I hope this arc is explored even further with Cream's own story mode if Sonic Adventure were to get a remake. (As long as she doesn't encounter any two tailed foxes sitting on benches, that is.)
48:27 I like how you threw in that state machine explanation in there ahaha, ya'll should throw in stuff like that in videos I think it's cool if people who might not know the behind the scenes stuff of programming get to learn too.
one thing I love about this video is the friendliness of it, it feels less like some detached review and more like an art piece. Sometimes when you get some music from a small artist they'll include a little note thanking you for listening and buying their shit. The state machine bit and the extra music at the end gives this feeling a lot. it's like we're getting a little extra stuff to the video.
Excellent review / overview. My only complaint is that you somehow missed the fact that Big the Cat is voiced Jon St John - or how us boomer-shooter fans know him, Duke Nukem.
I'm currently on a binge of your reviews and I'm having a lot of fun. I love how you consistently give ideas to improve a game (the YIIK review is the best example of this so far) and your passion for critiquing is so clear. You give credit where credit is due and your videos are fair, visibly show what's right and wrong.
I didn't think I would ever watch a review over 10 minutes, but your videos are worth it. Subbed; I hope you make it big some day. You deserve it for all the effort and love you put into your content.
I think I must have watched this video half a dozen times across several years and I just now realized the drawing at 17:23 was the JFK assassination. I laughed so hard that I started crying.
fun fact: hardware issues and sonic adventure *are* actually related, some levels like windy valley had to be simplified for final version of the game due to the dreamcasts used for testing just not being able to run them correctly, either due to lag or other hardware problems.
According to a Retro Gamer interview, the actual reason is that they couldn't "clean up" the huge original Windy Valley in time, so Takashi Iizuka remade it from scratch.
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huh, that's interesting.
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This is honestly the reason why I started programming too. All the weird janky programming "magic" really captured my attention as a kid. It was fun to just completely go into places that I'm not supposed to be. And I think a lot of people would agree with this sentiment as well. It's just as interesting as seeing a graphically heavy game being optimized like crazy.
I just realized that in the homing attack diagram Sonic is bouncing off JFK.
"I respect the finite time I have in this world, so I won't repeat myself." ahh fuck this is the third time I've watched this video
"a blue rat that runs fast" IT'S PETE BUTTIGIEG
Snake showed me your THUG vid and I'm so glad to see you back.
“I walked up to him and said ‘hey, did you like sonic adventure 2?’... and he took my wallet.”
Absolute solid comedy gold, man
"So, Sonic, my man, seems like i'm going with the side bitch."
*Stage Clear Jingle Plays*
"Hey, not bad!"
Came for the analysis, stayed for the humour and chill atmosphere of these videos, subscribed for the based Fez take.
28:41 "Now! I have f-f-four ovely - four - meralds!!!!"
49:38 According to an unused Tikal voice clip, at one point it was possible to turn into Super Sonic in action stages by pressing B while jumping with at least 50 rings.
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*Sonic falling into the void*
no.
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Norm Macdonald?
These videos fill a void, man. Please keep makin' em
Thank you for the video and the humor. Going through a rather tough time right now and this really helped.
This was a very entertaining review! I can see why you and Cybershell became friends since you have similar humor.
Excellently made video! A nice balance of lightheartedness and substance. I thoroughly enjoy both yours and Joseph Anderson's reviews for the well-crafted rundowns. While his content is much more formal and step-by-step, yours is much more free-form and personal. Keep up the excellent, work! You're showing up in my recommended so it seems like you've got some good favour in TH-cam's books.
28:41 when you have fffou lyem riloveralds
Gamma probably isn't the bird, even if the bird powering him has some subconscious connection to him. Not to get all ERM ACHSHUALLY just saying it because it does more for his character if he recognizes that his existence is parasitic and that he's finally allowed to die in peace, fittingly alone after departing from the main cast and completing his mission of liberating his brothers.
Also, I love this channel. I find myself relistening to your stuff pretty regularly. What keeps me coming back is how clearly passionate you are about the things you appreciate, measured with fair criticisms.
YEAH. YEAH.
you're one of the best new creators i've seen on this platform, hope this channel blows up huge.
Spax3, now that's a name i haven't heard in a long time.
Nice to see you're finally back. I was actually really looking forward to a Sonic 2 vid, but Adventure obviously make for a more interesting sequel.
Your humour and delivery is always on point and I appreciate how you can mix in some genuinely good points and ideas about the games you review. It gives the video a more lighthearted tone, which makes it both memorable and I think easier to take in, despite the length.
A lot of TH-cam video game essayists tend to be either too dry or too ''TH-camr funny'' if you know what I mean. You've got a good balance.
There were a few little things that bugged me in this review, but all in all I dig the amount of work you put into it, and I enjoyed the overall analysis. These kind of videos shouldn’t go unnoticed.
I subbed because tehsnakerer shouted you out and i enjoyed the few videos you had out, so shout out to tehsnaker for showing me this channel
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I come back to this video often, your channel deserves so much more love.
The writing is so punchy in this everytime I rewatch it I find new jokes to appreciate I missed the first time.
37:00 is 1 minute of pure gold gold. Solid review.
"Chaos 4 is completely unchanged"
Um ackchyually he has slightly less health when you fight him as Tails. I can't believe you've led me astray like this. How can I trust anything you say now :(
Does he? That felt like the same boring slog every single time, but I do basically check out every time I do it because of how boring it is.
Never noticed. Still won't. Shit fight.
Holy this video was so in depth and awesome, i love this game so much and im really happy to see someone put into words why it’s good :)
Subbed for the snobby analytical reviews and the gentoo joke you're a legend dude
I just found your channel, and i love the writing in your videos! you're criminally underrated.
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Making a boomark for myself, because I love that joke.
Great video, please never subject me to anything like the Perfect Chaos cutscene edit ever again 🙂
God I love the subtle FEZ jokes
1 year on ice... The legend finally comes back to life! Good to see you back man
From YIIK to here, I'm enjoying this... Also a remilia meme in the beginning? Thats a sub from me~
0:03 Instantly caught the reference to the Great Dolemite, Charlie Brown! video. Nice one, stay classy.
59:36 This whole bit here is like a Norm McDonald joke
Great video man if all your videos are gonna be this good and long, I think we're gonna have a beautiful relationship of youtuber and viewer. Like seriously man I love your humor lol
Man this video just makes good point after good point. I know I'm watching this in 2021 but my point still stands.
Excellent work sir!
You’re like the Mr. Plinkett of video games.
Really great editing and writing. You're extremely funny and very competent, I appreciate your takes on games. Your reviews absolutely are incredible.
I love your guys' channel so much. I hope you manage to reach 100k subscribers!!
absolutely enjoyed this , you're incredibly engaging ! very fantastic video
Holy shit I knew I was still subscribed to you for a reason. After your THUG review I thought for sure you'd abandoned the channel, but I'm so happy to see this. You have a serious talent for this stuff, I hope you continue to make more videos in the future.
Dude, you are a ducking legend. I watch this video once a month just for comedy alone. A review that doesn’t take itself seriously. You have to come back and do a review for adventure 2
I loved your no shits given attitude
Man I love the demo disc sourced textures from this era. So charming
i like how louis ck is brought up alot, funny ongoing joke. my new favorite channel
*Knuckles falls for the same trick Knuckles played on him in Knuckles 3 & Knuckles.
Subbed like a year ago and had a feeling you weren't gonna upload again, boy am I glad I was wrong.
Great video man.
How am i only just finding out about this channel now? This is some top shelf stuff :D
"I wanna be a game designer!"
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"Welcome to McDonalds can I take your order?"
Unfortunately, it seems to be the opposite situation. The low level guys are having a hard time finding employment unless they can break into embedded systems or find a gig doing work on Arm processors. The big money and demand at the moment seems to be in high level web frameworks like Node or ASP. A lot of those jobs require basically no low level knowledge, and I guess you don’t technically need that understanding to do the job, but it’s led to a lot of the modern web being full of unoptimized code which is a shame. I’m haven’t looked into the games industry too much since there’s a lot of better industries for doing a day job as a dev, but from what I’ve seen, they seem to care a lot about your portfolio and knowledge of modern engines like Unity and Unreal. Things vary from company to company though, and especially if you want to be a graphics engineer you’re going to need to know how to work with OpenGL in C, and probably Vulkan too if you’re with a cutting-edge company, so there’s still some options out there.
Also I agree with your previous comment, there’s a lot of great games on the Saturn like Bulk Slash or Radiant Silvergun that were lost in obscurity thanks to never being released outside of Japan. I'm surprised at how far Saturn emulation has progressed considering how fucked up the architecture is in that console, hopefully it keeps going so more games can play perfectly and people can discover the fantastic library it has.
@@RunningShine Just looking at coding/programming always intimidated the hell out of me. I was jealous of people who could make sense of it all.
As for the Saturn, I only just last year finally played scenario's 2 and 3 of Shining Force 3. It was a literal dream come true, as ever since I was a kid I lamented that I could never finish the damn game! Even tried learning Japanese in no small part because of it. I remembered always hearing back in the day how Saturn emulators were borked and I'm glad things have come so far. I just need to get Dragonforce 2 up and running now. :P
YUP. I'm gonna say based. Glad to see you back and with this awesome, long video to boot!
How the hell do you only have 20k subscribers? Your videos are so incredible!
i played shadow the hedgehog when it came out on gamecube and i loved it. i still love that game. the versus mode was kinda crappy but it was still fun
same here. i still have my copy of it, too, i genuinely think it's a really cool game
THE YIIK GUY? I LOVE THAT GAME
The Bangai-O mention deserves some props. Best little series of games Treasure put out.
great video man, would love to see a sonic adventure 2 review one day
This review was so far ahead of its time, having now played Frontiers SO many of the comments about the movement and particularly making enemies "fun" to engage with apply to it. Dude's like Sonic Team's personal Nostradamus.
The biggest improvement from sa1 to sa2 is the light speed dash. It being an instantaneous button press instead of having to charge it up helps the game flow a lot.
The somersault pisses me off though, I hate accidentally doing it when I want to light speed dash or spindash
@@Outta-hz1ej yea I agree, thankfully if u play on pic there are mods that fix this
1:25:00 video that's well edited and isnt useless filler, great video. I hope you get more popular.
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Here's the fun part, they didn't. The Japanese version of the script is the same in terms of dialogue in all campaigns (except for the obvious parts where Eggman speaks to Tails), they just translated the same text differently for every campaign for some reason
Actually. That was something they added in the international versions. They actually accommodated for the new scripts by adding new scenes to the cutscenes.
This was uploaded on my birthday last year. I barely noticed. Thanks for the birthday gift, Shine.
Goodness. I got major flashbacks to TheGamingBritShow's video on the Ratchet and Clank reboot when you pointed out how much Sonic talks in the newer games. Honestly, makes me kinda appreciate when a game doesn't have people talking mid-gameplay. It can work if done right, not gonna say it's a bad idea out the gate, but I'd rather get an idea of their character from their actions, leave the dialogue to cutscenes and stuff, and just immerse myself in the game world.
Keep watching this and your YiiK video whenever I need to fall asleep or when im feeling down. Keep up the great content dude