Canon R7: Is That Enough in 2022?
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- Canon R7 and R10. Is this going to compete with Fuji XS10 and XT4? What about the looming XH2 and XH2s? Or the lighter Sony ZVE10? Does this confirm EOS M is dead? Will there be any good aps-c RF lenses? Why are these kit lenses so tight and slow? 4k 60p with 1.81x crop?! 2.9x crop is smaller than 1 inch sensor lol.
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Yep...more of an ass man
Canons biggest problem is their lens selections for RF, too expensive, too big. They need an f2 of 24mm , 10-20mm f4.
I always thought of the cripple hammer in your videos as sort of Thor's hammer. Will it not just fly back to the hands of Canon after it's done it crippling or when it's left in the woods (and think of all the animals it will cripple after it has been left in the woods).
Hey how come these vegan doesn't reply to anyone on his videos. Damn vegans🥑🍆
You look like Booger from the Revenge of the Nerd movies. Same actor in the movie Risky Business.
I'm here just for the board room meeting 🤣
imagine the reach with the RF extendible 800mm prime, you'd be able to see the lizard mens bases on the moon which we never went to.
The moon is too close to focus on for that lens
Oh let me do the math for the Toneh... 11* 3 in the enhanced mode. Toneh 33! All the universe will be in focus nice!
800mm is not that long focal lenght guys, not sure why Casey think otherwise 😄
I still rock a Canon 7D with Magic lantern: shooting RAW video + timelapses. I was looking forward to this R7 coming out, but I agree with you... not as impressive as I think it should be for video. And those RF-S lenses so far are crazy unappealing (at least spec wise).
You DO realize you can use any of the stellar RF lenses on this camera right? You also realize you can use any EF lens too right? lol. Only amateurs shoot crop lenses on crop cameras. Ive been shooting 18 years and Ive never used a crop lens on any crop sensor Canon.
@@michaelbell75 a compact good rf lens with constant aperture will be nice for traveling. I am very happy about the quality and portability of my m43 system. But will probably get a R7 for the autofocus and better stills capabilities. But would something small like my 12-40 mm F2.8 for the M43.
The R7 has great rolling shutter to recreate famous old-timey warpy pics!
The R7 also has a loud mechanical shutter that mimics a woodpecker - great for attracting wildlife photographers in your area!
The R7 also has crippled video specs so that it can't overheat! Ingenious!
For real though, 32.5mp and Canon autofocus are nice. Might be a good wildlife camera if the mechanical shutter doesn't scare everything away.
‘A loud mechanical shutter that mimics a woodpecker’. Perhaps using the silent electronic shutter might be in order? Here’s another thought. Don’t buy it. Problem of your hating it, solved.
@@frankanderson5012 No need to get salty, I was only praising the Cripple Hammer's work. 😜
@@frankanderson5012 shoot a fast action with the shitty rolling shutter and bam you’re done, warpy birds or people everywhere
Also cheap build quality.
R7 sucks ass
The silent stare at the beginning always kills me 😂😂
THe HAMMER!!!! You keep getting better at this small stories !!!! Keep them coming they are fantastic!!!!!
Love your work, CC!
2:31 - Omg YES! Finally ... Footage you found of the Cripple Hammer invading the board room to intimidate an ambitious, new Canon engineer. I knew you had this footage somewhere lol :)
The no BS video I've been waiting for thank you
@@ThomasGTV are u from Canon
I have a 5d iv im thinking switching to R7 to get ibis and autofocus and some other good stuff meh i mean u could put a speed booster on it's close enough to full frame use a tamron g2 24-70 f2.8 maybe it will be 27-80 mill f2.0 equivalent with speedbooster probably its a little noisyer then full frame yeah well what do u think ? should i do it am i crazy or i don't know what im taking about here ?!
Casey that pan down was art, you could see what happened in the water reflection👏
I try to tell myself that every night lol.
The Canon board meetings are always some of the funniest shit I've ever seen 🤣🤣🤣
I completely agree with the power switch on the R7 being a mistake having taken the place of the rear top command dial. They should have taken the command dial/power lever from the R10 and put it on the R7. The ergonomics of the R5 and R6 were heading in the right direction from the stupid R’s touchbar and lack of rear aperture wheel, and now this. Hopefully Canon opens up the RF mount or puts out affordable, brighter RF-s glass
Christopher Frost always left the Canon 32.5mp APS-C sensor from the M6 mkii as the last in his lens tests. That sensor is so brutal even Pro grade EF lenses struggled to deliver. That's the biggest cripple blow.
But this isn’t the same sensor as that. Canon has said dozens of times its a new sensor
@@AndrewKuttor it's about pixel size at that crop and resolution, not the sensor technology, it's much more demanding on lenses
@@PrimalShutter I know about pixel pitch. However, it isn't as easy as just saying the bigger the photo site the better the sensor. There is a lot going on between the sensor and the image you see after capture.
For instance, the R5c and the R5 uses the same sensor, however the R5c gets better dynamic range. Now there is a rumor that the Digic X in the R5c is modified. But it could also be the codecs. Whatever the case, they should get the same exact DR, but they don't.
There are cameras with more megapixels with smaller sensors that outshoot cameras with larger sensors and less megapixels.
Now their pixel pitches are pretty close... the c70 is 6.40um while the R3 is 6.00um.
The C70 with a Super35 outshoots my R3 for instance... now the R3 might be sharper, but the highlight rolloff, the dynamic range, the color depth.. ya know the stuff that matters with video, it does way better on.
Despite the fact the C70 is a super35 sensor and the R3 is a Full-frame.
However, lets walk back a moment and really think about this camera... it's a $1499 camera. First and foremost. That's cheaper than a gh5 mark II, that's cheaper than a Sony a7c. Its made for wildlife, a photography first camera. So for wildlife you would want something that can capture relatively fast, 15fps, that is very sharp, has IBIS, with lots of AF -- this $1499 camera has that,.
@@AndrewKuttor his point was that there are no lenses that can perform well enough in the center to justify an increase in megapixels. Its a demanding sensor since the mpx are centered in the center. You will have to pay thousands on glass to take advantage of this sensor or you'll just be magnifying lens and shooting errors. It's essentially a cripple.
@@burritobrosvideos8060 you are correct about the sensor being more demanding. But the corners would be the most demanding of all (If somehow the sensor was aligned to the extreme corner of the full frame).
Any word if the 1080p 24/30fps video is downsampled as well?
I found your channel by chance. Great humor, too much coffee. 🤣🤣 got a new sub here.
Funniest boardroom meeting in ages!
I started out with a Canon T6s. When I went full frame I switched to Nikon and bought a ditto for its low light performance. I now use a z6 ii. One of the reasons why I switched was because Canon cripples their cameras. I do like how Fuji puts everything into their next model without worrying about hiring the sells of a different model. I think Nikon may go that route this time. Imagine if Nikon makes a d750 I too replace the d500 with the same tech that's in the z9. Stacked bsi sensor, no mechanical shutter, 4k video with every option, at least 20 fps. That camera would be a beast. I'm glad Canon came out with the R7 before noon comes out with their version with similar specs. Nikon probably has the best ergonomics followed by Fuji. I haven't looked at a Panasonic yet but I'm sure theirs is good. I think Canon is getting designed by aliens with weird fingers or something.
IMHO, Panasonic has perhaps the best ergos and features. I'd buy nothing but Panasonic if it weren't for the crappy continuous AF.
I'm a former D750/D500 owner shooting Z's and they have lost the ergonomics award. Mostly due to firmware limitations and not saving every function to a user mode. I had the D750 first, and I felt like the D500 was an upgrade to the D750.
My Z7II still doesn't have the responsiveness of my D500. I'm constantly switching an Fn button for metering or subject tracking or whatever. A menu, MyMenu, touchscreen, and buttons that just don't work as well as the physical "pro" layout (D2xx/D3xx/D5xx/D6xx/D7xx/D8xx. 85% of the photos from my Z50/Z7II combo are better than f-mount bodies. AF-C and the firmware just isn't there yet. Neither even have a 1/3 crop grid!
I want a Z6II sensor with IBIS in a D750 body with D500 performance, a fully articulating screen (no FX Nikon has one,) and a pop-up warm LED flash. Had they made this f-mount 3-4 years ago they'd have owned the market IMO.
@@skyrunr you have to remember that Nikon is on their 2nd gen cameras with the z6 II and z7 II. The z9 is probably considered 3rd gen. They recently stated that the next models coming out will have some of the same technology that's in the z9. Will that be stacked sensors? Electronic shutter only? Better tracking? We don't know yet. I think all of the bodies will be back to normal size so they can dissipate heat from using them in video mode. I also believe there will be a mirrorless d500 come out with similar specs as the z9. It'll be cheaper and probably won't do 8k.
@@carlmcneill1139 Yes, I'd be happy with a few decent firmware updates. The glaZZ is unmatched, but super sharp is no good if AF-C isn't there. I want to buy them all, but the beauty of them as I only need 3-4. I don't even shoot video, but I still want an articulating screen. Mostly to flip it over and protect it, or shoot in a crowd over people's heads without disrupting someone's video behind me. A full 90 degrees down would be enough.
@@skyrunr I want a fully articulating screen for when I take landscape pictures down low in portrait orientation. I have a Canon T6s with the flip out screen like that and it works great in those situations. I really think Nikon will be putting them in soon.
WHOA! Camera Conspiracies with a day one recap! Introducing: The Canon "Cripple Nipple!" 😂
Wow that took a turn at the end, what a plot twist. Great video buddy.
That ending was perfect! 😄😄
Where is that 10mm lens at for an APS-C camera? On the front of my Nikon D7500.
These cameras almost had me as hyped as I was when I got my first t3i
About time you gave a shoutout to my Blackmagic bois. $1499 for a 90D with two lenses. Literally buy anything else. EOS R is $1499 refurbished right now.
What other APS-C camera has 4K 60p, IBIS, dual card slots, the best AF system on the market and can shoot 15fps mechanical/30 electronic? and all of it for $1,500. I'll wait....
hahahah ok that skit was hilarious, love it.
Very refreshing insights 😀. Hilarious. Thanks
Great color grading ⭐️
Hey Kasey.
I really need your help here please 🙏. I've been stuck between these 2 cameras for at least 2 months. Get the A7IV with 28-70mm kit lens for USD2880, or the A7C body alone for USD1630, leaving me with USD1200 for a lens to go with the A7C... Please help! These are both good deals. I need it mainly for video and it will be my first full frame, but my concern is also if my laptop will handle the 10 bit A7IV files. Should I just wait a bit for the next release? If you know of something coming, just say "wait" 😆. Thanks for all the guidance and interesting vids.
Man that toneh is incredible!
You can peer into someone's soul with that crop. I like it.
On the R7 I can control all of my settings with just the front dial and the rear wheel while looking through the viewfindder in FV mode. Just my finger and thumb. Very simple!
Yeah im also super happy with the controls. Especially as someone who never had a control wheel at the back at all (only entry level APS-C DSLR and the EOS RP yet)
Sometimes i really miss a control wheel but its still doable since the R7 allow pretty much any mapping on the buttons.
I really tried to not like the R7, especially the R10. But the more i realized how bad the EOS RP is for wildlife and video (wasnt considered at all at purchase!) the more i began to think about getting the R7 and soon i liked it. Still the price is too high considering the flaws and missing features like 240fps video.
I think for video the appeal of the canon r7 is the ability to use cheap ef lenses. sigma 18-35mm f1.8 on the canon r7 with the ef to rf nd adapter means you get.....10bit, IBIS, vari-ND, auto-focus and f1.8 contant aperture for a very low price. I've also seen used ef mount sigma 50-150mm f2.8 lenses for $300
For a very low price? You could buy an a7iii and get all of the features WITH a Full frame sensor for less. What a joke
@@Yupthereitism a7iii is 8bit colour, and fly by wire focus lenses (screw on nd filters). A7iii screen blacks out when using a monitor in 4k (and loses reliable autofocus).
A7iii has a lot of issues for video (and expensive fly by wire lenses). Either spend more and get a sony a7siii, or go cheaper and get a used fuji xt3 (and upgrade to the fuji xh2s down the line).
Edit: or use a canon r7 with the option of moving to blackmagic or canon cinema cameras (canon c200, c300 mkiii). Ef lenses are cheap and great for using manual focus when needed (while also having “ok” autofocus)
I've tried to justify the R7, and cannot. I'm kinda old school and still very content with DSLR.
One of the strengths of Canon cameras has been ergonomics. All of the prosumer and professional cameras have a predictable layout of controls, menu, and user interface that allow the photographer who uses more than one camera in the field to quickly and easily switch between cameras without missing a beat. The Canon R7 completely changed the predictable layout found on the Canon 7D Mark II, all the 5 series bodies, the 1DX series, and the new layout on the R5 and R6. While the specifications and feature set are really exciting Canon stopped short of true excellence. For example, 30 fps is great but the buffer and comparatively slow memory cards results in a frustratingly short 2-2.5 sec of continuous shooting before the camera starts buffering. For a camera that is aimed at sports and wildlife enthusiast photographers a larger buffer and/or faster storage would better meet the needs of that target market. Oversampled 4K at 24 p but not at 60 p is another example of stopping short of excellence. I wonder whether Canon has plans to produce a more professional level APS camera? That would be greatly welcomed.
The sensor is still pretty slow so you don’t want to shoot with the electronic shutter for moving stuff
Someone quickly handed me a 60D many years ago and I couldn't find the power button. I tried an EOS-R and couldn't stand a dial only being used for power. LOL I found all the little buttons difficult to reach by feel compared to Nikon as well.
Finally, an honest review ... Of reviews.
R7 and R10 is fine for most 7D and 90D users. But I have EF-M lenses. 8 tiny lenses. I want at least R10 but smaller and with M mount.
That isn't coming, I'm afraid. Canon have already said their R&D is focused on the RF system. They'll keep making EF-M mount gear because it sells; but they won't develop anything new for that system.
As a 7D user, I can tell you that this is not fine. I was expecting a pro-body, not an updated 90D.
@@ericb8985 what is not pro about the R7? I used the 7Dmk2, some 5D bodies, 6D, R5, 70D, 80D, and I can not spot a huge difference beside the 7D being chunky as 5Dmk3 with the awful dynamic range of the 70D
@@dtibor5903 "Pro" usually includes top-end features. The 7D bodies were all at the top of the game when they were released and therefore offered unique advantages. The R7 has a worse viewfinder and IBIS than the other RF bodies and its sensor doesn't add any low-light performance for wildlife photography. Canon didn't try to create an ASP-C camera with their best technology and that's what doesn't make this a pro camera. Existing bodies can fully replace the R7 which wasn't quite the case for the 7D and 7D II.
I’m excited to see your review on the secret lightweight Sony camera you already have. 😂😂😂
They love old technology peddling haha and sometimes, like at 8:05 about the m/s/c button I wonder if you even know how photography works 🤣
Hi my name is Derek and I was drinking coffee while watching this
Within like one second of the intro I was dying lol
The hammer is sooo funny 😆
He started this video off hilariously pissed with canon😂😆😂😆😂😆
"while Derek walks off his headache..." 😂
Very enjoyable video. I assume they will not send you any more gear in the future because your too honest.
I will get the R7 for my beautiful 100-400 II, I also hope Viltrox will release their 13mm 1.4 to R mount.
Is there gna be a zv2 coming anytime soon?
How is the back wheel a cripple ? Canon have had a wheel in the back for a long time this is just a new version where you domt have to move your thumb down from the joystick .No idea I’f I will prefer this from my 5ds have to try it first but I would not call it a cripple. For being crippled it has to be a option they have dumbed down .. the kit lens is stupid tough 18-45 there is barely any zoom
Smoked up again today aeeee love it..
thanks , was waiting this professional review from professional wild life videographer
was gonna ask about it and you provided
I hear rumours of new Sony apsc lenses meaning Sony have yet to abandon the APSC line. Hopefully they bring out a camera with a stacked sensor to reduce the horrible rolling shutter.
Y would sony abandon its apsc? Its one of their best seller line up. Its just sony doesnt focus on apsc. Most of their resource is spent on ff
Bang on. It will be a 24MP stacked sensor video focused camera with no rolling shutter for the 'tube. It's not looking good for the Sony APS-C flagship at 32 or 40MP that I am waiting for, as Sony is probably selling those sensors to Fuj for the XH2.
I think I'm actually glad the R7 has ipb and ipb light
Board room meeting was really funny!!
I wish a camera company would team up with a smartphone maker. Imagine a camera that you could download apps on. Post photos directly to social media and add new functions and programs to the camera. Basically, an open-source camera combined with a smartphone.
The Samsung Galaxy NX was pretty cool
Why? Sounds like great features for an amateur camera. Someone posting pics of their kids playing softball directly to social media. Basically, smartphone stuff. But no pro or serious photographer is going to want to pay for those features. Most photographers I shoot with don't even know how to shoot video on their cameras. Nor do they care. They are photographers, not videographers, and if they were they would buy a serious video camera.
@@alansach8437 have You ever heard of the Magic Lantern hack for Canon cameras?
It a satellite phone you could do live broadcasts with, send b-roll directly to editor, footage dailies to a director.
2 vids in one day 🎉🎉🎉
Did you have planned your next One Man Show Tour already ? Because I'm gonna book them all ! 😁
you know it is going to be fun video even before watching when it has +5 seconds of silence with not moving soul less face intro.
i am here for you scandalous seriousness and all the Toneh jabs and i was not disappointed 😂😂😂😂
If you increase the distance for the object you will have more disturbance in the light you receive in the sensor.
Is like looking at the star and planets in the sky. The light of the star in the sky is sparkling compared to the planets and this happens because of the distance of the object to the subject.
And the amount of the gases the light needs to pass makes the focal point not precise, so the image will look bad.
And the gases become more agitated with the heat, it's like looking on the highway and seeing the heatwave.
Here I was looking at all the early reviews of the R7 (we know, who those guys are). I was feeling the temptation to ditch my X-T4 and getting the same or better specs and that autofocus (X-T4 woes). The board meeting was absolutely fantastic. Canon mindset explained. Thanks for setting things straight for me. Lesson: Don't watch those early reviews.
May the Cripple Hammer be your constant companion!
They could’nt even give us good 1080P 240 fps. By the time 240 fps is in a Canon R series cam, Sony and Nikon will already have 1080P 960 fps. Lol
You forget that this is a photography camera. To Canon, video is optional x.x and if you want better video features, then you have to pay the premium for it or pay even more and go to their cinema lineup 😉
@@Samiam-mu5ln maybe R1C will have it. 😉
What other APS-C camera has 4K 60p, IBIS, dual card slots, the best AF system on the market and can shoot 15fps mechanical/30 electronic? and all of it for $1,500. I'll wait....
This guy is Epic my new favorite got me cracking up
Brutal and gold, so fun.
Damn my man Derek might not be okay after that hammer hit
The canon development meeting! 😂
My good sir first let me say you are entertaining. Now let's continue...this video proves that old age is hitting. You hate change (button layout) and you can't understand why new cameras come out but aren't just loaded with nothing but the finest top end features....even when all along the company was not even trying to keep it a secret that these new cameras are going to be closer to entry level and lower cost. And they even put in autofocus that is on par with the R5 and R6
You sound like a bitter old man.
Yeah and it overheats just like the R5 & R6!
Idk which one buy, the r7 or the xt4 (for video), bc the AF, and most of the Fuji lenses are kinda crap for video and the new ones are expensive
Fujifilm xs10 or r7 ?
I'm so blessed not to have money to buy this stuff, so cant get angry at it, but always fun to watch you complain about it :)
“Side rant / right hand” is a great base for an Eminem bar.
Glad you combed your hair for this
This is the best place to come when you're hyped about a camera. You get slapped back into reality. 😂
Not a BSI sensor - that's a deal beaker... for what I was hoping to be a pro APSc setup, the smaller sensor should have been BSI to extract the best possible image quality. That and 240 FPS in 1080p - then I'd jump on it... but as it is, I'll pass... Long live the cripple hammer...
Please. This thing is going to easily be the best crop sensor camera on the market for the price. No one wants to pay an extra $500+ for a BSI sensor lol. Wait for the top of the line APS-C R camera which Im sure will have it. Go ahead and stupidly pay $3K for it too.
The Fuji X-S10, but you don’t always need BSI to produce great images. The Canon 7D don’t have BSI, neither does the Z5 or D500, and all 3 produce excellent image quality. With Canon’s trademarked dual pixel technology, you don’t need BSI. The R7 also gets AF II technology directly from the R3, which should get you some great shots.
When will the X-T5 come out already 😭
Nice intro. I started laughing before you said a word.
The AF is great. Plus there's the light and affordable 100-400 here. R7 supports sync stabilization. I think it will sell well.
R7 price is great, from Canon I was expecting a 2k$ camera, pleasant surprise.
Crummy evf, crummy screen, crummy weather sealing, removed rear wheel, no native apsc lenses, and old sensor with poor high iso performance.
It will. This is all a bitter rant about what I don't know. All those options are stellar. You're not gonna get the same quality in a R7 that you would an R3 or R5. That's like getting an A7RIII and being upset it doesn't stack up to an A9
The autofocus alone is enough reason to upgrade from the 90d. However you have to wonder why they crippled the 90d in the first place and didn’t give it the autofocus system of the 7d MK 2?
Duh!! Because it's a cheaper camera!! You don't get leather seats and a moonroof in a base model car. No one questions that. What is it about cameras that make people think they should get all the features in the cheaper models? As it is, Canon is really good at letting some features slip down the line, like the AF from the R3 in this camera, and most of the features of the R5 in the R6.
@@alansach8437 I can’t believe you think this will have the same autofocus as the r3. Pretty funny
You can use ef glass
Please make a cripple hammer plushie for your merch store.
I tested the R6. Mainly photography. Perfect body. The autofocus oh my gosh. So awesome. I cried. But their lenses to dang big and heavy. That ruined it.
do you even lift
@@Ivan-xg1zo no uber
so the r7 cant nail focus either?
It can, with RF glass. Im super happy with it, its just a hard time choosing the lenses, especially teles
Canon EF glass is also mostly ok to use if its not too old, but 3rd party glass, ouch, many 3rd party lenses are pulsing/breathing
I think R7 is a good camera though it won't shoot all-I in 4k 60p, it also has no recording limit. Its autofocus is better than any Fuji camera right now. Fuji XH-2 has a really tough competition.
Fuji is better now
@@Yupthereitism I don't know man. XH 2S looks like a very good lighter BMPCC6K camera without B Raw but with still unreliable autofocus. I mean I wanted to like that camera so much but that just one thing destroys my prospects.
Before watching: I really like r7.
After watching: Screw canon.
I swear Canon is watching this right now and they're like, "Man what a roast! I hate this guy!" 😂🤣
I hope all the m mount users noticed the cripple hammered big middle finger Canon gave us today.
Trust me I still use a Canon 6D and it rocks!
I watched you sober and liked, I watched you high and subscribed.
that goose lol
I use Canon M50 and I like canon colours and ease of use but I am blown away with Sony cameras specs. R7 interesting but what lens to use? F4 costs over£1500 and f2 over £3000. Who can justify that? What lenses for TH-camrs or social media content creators?
Use a speedbooster (ef to rf) and check sigma lenses. That's what I'm doing 🔥
@@jordanmiranda8038 where did you preorder your R7?
Cripple Nipple.. that shit had me dying
Damn. 2070mm?!? Almost able to see the heat death of the universe
You make my day, as usual. I hope to god i never weaken and buy another Canon. Not just because of this video but because i think Canon take amateur photographers for fools. It started with the EOS 650. And has gone on ever since. Now they offer not much for the enthusiast, if you want better then go for the high end stuff with stupidly priced lenses.
Not sure why the Canon R7 vs R10 switching back-and-forth in the thumbnail appears to have varying sensor sizes. They are both APS-C. 22.2 x 14.8mm. (Canon's APS-C is 1.62x crop vs. Nikon's 1.52x)
bhp website spec says r7 pixel actual count 34.5 mp but effective is 32 mp i think that's why or simply cause ibis system is lay back abit and makes senor depth look bigger than it really is
IBIS mechanism.
It's same sensor size in the pictures, just that R7 has an IBIS frame for the sensor to have space to move.
Luv your sacarsm! Damn funny, bro
I will buy two R7 with the cripple nipple lool :p Glorious episode ! On paper yes it seems nice to have it in 2019 ;) and at that price now :o how could they be sooo late ?? lol :p
Freaking spot on. Canon just nosediving further and further.
What other APS-C camera has 4K 60p, IBIS, dual card slots, the best AF system on the market and can shoot 15fps mechanical/30 electronic? and all of it for $1,500. I'll wait....
@@michaelbell75 No idea, don't care. I am sure there is market for this, but how many customers are there for such new limited cumbersome system? AU, UK and Europe is ripped off price wise. This is going to be $2000 camera here. Add medium set of lenses, and you are near $5000 system quick. And so it is not that tempting, despite the specsheet.
I am currently waging a war in my head between the potential of the upcoming Fuji Xh2(s) and it's Video-capabilities and the Panasonic S5 (Lumix sounds disgusting) for a hybrid yet video-first system cam. Lens selection is mediocre and painfully expensive on the L-Mounts yet Panasonic offers good anamorphic settings (something I am wildly interested in) good/best video-stabe and full frame recording I believe? I don't know much on the Fuji side of things but are there any spicy arguments for Fuji in this case?
So the XH2S will be better for video, it’s actually a video-centric camera. But will be more expensive, have worse AF, and worse lenses.
@@AndrewKuttor Worse lenses? Compared to the two APS-C lenses for the R mount?
Let's wait. The X-H2(s) will most likely have much better AF compared to its predecessors. It will probably have better noise, dynamic range, and rolling shutter.
And there are a lot of cheap 3rd party lenses for Fuji since recently.
Still, I don't expect AF to be on Canon/Sony level. But they may surprise us. Nikon did with their new camera.
Also, the Fuji X-H2(s) will be able to film 8k/6k. Also it has Fuji color science.
Lumix S5 User here. I don't use Autofocus for video at all, but it has not been an issue to me. I stop all my primes down to f2.8 or f4 anyway ( I got to talk to some pro documentary videographers at my job that did some stuff at my work place, they all mainly use 24-105 f4 lenses on full frame sony fx6/fx9 or canon c300 series or similar cameras. They told me they use f2.8 on super 35 or f4 on full frame for TV production most of the time, if the camera operator has to do the focus himself. They don't use autofocus ever, not even on the fx9.)
Thanks to the dual native ISO at 4000 I can still stop down in less than ideal lighting conditions. (I even try to ETTR with around +2 stops in VLOG in bad light with higher ISO and correct this with the Leeming Luts in post, which seems to give better results (noise etc) than having the "right exposure" at +/-0.
For photos, the S5's autofocus seems to work just fine with my panasonic 24-105 f4 and my sigma primes. I use them with continuos Af, the DFD in AF-C always pulses back and forth, which I found to be weird, coming from Sony and Olympus cameras before, but the success/hit rate seems to be fine by me.
Slow moving targets like people walking are no problem, shooting Hockey in a dimly lit area produced a few oof focus shots (maybe 5-10% at f4) and some hunting. However, super fast lenses might have more problems. E.g. my Sigma 105 f1.4 at wide open has such a ridiculously small DOF that you might get the eyelashes in focus but not the eyeball at the same time when doing a close-up portrait.
For me, the performance with the sigma Art lenses for L mount is more than good enough and they are very reasonably priced.
I have never used a Fuji (at least not a digital one, the GX680 was great), but I guess they are great, too. In the end it probably doesnt make too much of a difference.
@@Fotomensch Thanks for that intricate info!
I when the crippling feature of the R7 is the low Res EVF !
Low Res back screen is ok, but tye EVF for sports and wildlife zooming at distance,..really Canon !