I like the way you score the experiences in such categories, it would be awesome if you could compare between different rackets such as astrox 99 vs astrox 100 zz or astrox 88D/S vs 100ZZ/Z and some other popular rackets such as ZF2, Duora Z Strike etc Also how about a video about composing an ideal racket for ie a racket that has ZF2 smashing power, 88S control/handling, nanoray speed etc The ideal racket video would be about each characteristic of multiple rackets, that will be a challenge Nice video I like it
The problem with an "ideal racket" is that it does not exist. If a racket is ideal for me, it doesn't mean that it will be ideal for you. No matter how well a racket is designed, it can't escape the rules of physics, give the same current technologies. If you want the smashing power of the ZF2, you would have to sacrifice some speed and control, and vice versa for other rackets.
@@tnghiem84 agreed, but knowing the advantage of multiple racket might be useful for those who know their strength in certain skill If we can pull those advantages into one imaginary "ideal racket" while the point is to get as much info from multiple rackets might benefit those esp in high school Some of my varsity students like to smash a lot while others like to do trick shots or stroke play
@@the0neObserver Hi Dave, thanks for the feedback and your comments @tnghiem84. An ideal racquet video would be an interesting one. Although, we probably haven't tested enough racquets formally at this stage to be able to provide a compelling answer! As far as comparing racquets, we don't have plans to at this stage but will definitely keep it in mind for future videos! My concern with comparing racquets is that all of them tend to have their own strengths and weaknesses that are designed for various types of players. The scoring system we use is to hopefully make things a bit more objective so that in the future (when we have tested many), you can get a good idea between racquets based on their rating discrepancies :)
Aloha Henry and Jeff, great review of the Astrox 100 ZZ and Astrox 100 ZX. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together. Looking forward to trying them out. Your control and speed rating sells the Astrox 100 ZZ. Defense wins games.
Very through and comprehensive review. Interesting that you find the ZX the siffer racket. The ZZ is the more expensive racket with the solid shaft and fully 'made in Japan' while the ZX has a hollow made in Japan shaft but apparently the frame is made in Taiwan and is also the cheaper and therefore by inference the lower spec racket. Would be interested to hear your views on how it compares to the Nanoflare 800 (I know that's a head light racket) and the Auraspeed 90/90K/98k and the X Drive 9x. thanks
Thanks for the thoughtful comment db qu. Certainly odd that it felt different to how it had been described by Yonex. I'd suggest trying them both out and letting us know what you think :) NF800 vs Astrox ZZ is a very interesting comparison. Personally, I'd prefer the NF800 over the Astrox ZZ as I have a rather large swing and benefit from the momentum I can generate with the NF800. I can't really comment on the others unfortunately as I've never used them!
Thanks for the review guys. I own the 100ZZ and ZX, the ZZ is by far the stiffest racket yonex ever made so I'm not quite sure how you guys find the ZX stiffer in its shaft. Also the 100ZZ is very head heavy. To be honest the moment I played with the 100ZZ I got elbow and shoulder injuries. And I never had this with any rackets in the 20 years I play badminton. This racket is unforgiving in speedy movements that require fast wristmovement.
I've got a shoulder injury too although initially developed my injury using the Voltric LD Force, I don't know if it's shoulder impingement or partially torn something, but using the 100zz did not help my injury, just made it worse, I feel like you have to have really good technique and timing to not get injured by it and plus have a fast arm to unlock the full benefits
I really really enjoy your racket videos! Very calm, informative but still entertaining. I think about buying one of these two, but deciding between the two is so hard, because reviews seem to be all over the place: I've seen many reviews say ZZ is stiffer and more unforgiving then ZX, however you said the exact opposite. Some people rate ZZ as soft, some rate it as stiff and then Yonex says it's extra stiff. Same with play style: Yonex and some other reviewers describes it as a power racket, you however describe it as an allround control racket. Racket reviews are always very subjective, but with these two it seems like people really can not decide. The only thing everyone can agree on is that both are great rackets :D
Haha yeah it can definitely be conflicting. Sometimes we pick up a racket and don't look at the specs... then are surprised with the specs because they seem to be different to what we felt! At the end of the day, it's very much about personal preference and the best way is to try them yourself. Hopefully you know of some people who have both models so that you can try them yourself?
I have the ZZ I find it difficult to use and generate power from quick flicks and smashes, feels sluggish somewhat to me, good for defending I find and you can get a steep smash but lacks power.
Seems like a recurring theme for a comparison here. At this stage, I can't comment objectively because the the 88D and 100ZZ I've used had completely different string/tension. Watch this space as it seems like something people would like to know!
Posion cobra has a review for the 88D? And from what I heard, the 88D and the 99 will be a more powerful racket compared to the 100ZZ. But the 100ZZ will be a better in being an all rounder. Posion cobra compared the 100ZZ and the 88D in his 100zz video.
Thank you for the early review, hope you can compare these to other high end rackets currently in the market! Like will it be worth it replacing my LD force with one of these?
Hey Z3R05G, in short, probably not. But to be honest, I've never hit with an LD force before. My question would be, what's the reason for considering getting a new racquet for you? Are you happy with the LD force?
@@Volantbadminton thank you for your input! It's just an issue of availability. I doubt it will break anytime soon, i dont string super high tensions. But i was just thinking of moving on to newer models for easier access! Love the content, please do more!
In theory it should, but the material kinda makes it feel stiff but maintains that extra stiff. If you tried the z strike before. It has a simular feel to it
I like the way you guys make reviews about rackets , it is clear to understand. I wonder , is astrox 99 better or astrox 100 zz for player that play both double and single .
Thanks Winson! :) Completely personal opinion response coming, I would prefer the 100ZZ for both as I'd still feel the 99 is slightly heavier than I would like (knit picking and personal preference) compared to the 100ZZ
Good question. We've only tested the 4U100zz, 4U99, and 3UZF2 so can't really give you the answer you're looking for! Will let you know if we test the other versions to compare
Hello :) How would you compare this with the nf 800 in contrast to its power, cause you rated the nf 800 higher which is 9; and also about the precision towards the shuttle? I'm a hard hitting player but I rather highlight the placement of the shuttle play. What racket do suggest me buying next :) ?
Good question! We definitely like the zz more than the zx - and feel that it is more powerful. Precision-wise, the NF800 and the ZZ are both good! But the ZZ has a bit more weight to the head whereas the NF800 feels a little lighter in the head.
I wanted to get a new racquet and I'm a bit confused to pick one My choice's : 1. Astrox 100zz 2. Astrox 88s 3. Astrox 88d Any other racquet suggestions would be appreciated Note : I'm a front and back players as well , i want to add power to my smash and i love to do trick shots. Thankyou
Hi Dinesh, The Volant Rogue S1 is always an option too! But if we were to pick from those, we would choose the 100zz... unless you meant the 88d pro - in which we would choose that!
Hi RJ, thanks for your message. Difficult to say because we haven't reviewed the 88D properly and the last time we played with that racquet was a very long time ago (over a year). We've had requests for reviews on the 88D so watch this space when we're allowed to get back to the courts in Melbourne, Australia :)
Hi all, Thanks for the comments! To give you all a better understanding of how Jeff and I review racquets. We actually don't look at the technical aspects (what's on paper, i.e. extra-stiff etc.) of a racquet until after we have reviewed/commented on it as we want to remain as objective as possible in our reviews. Hence, our ratings and comments are based on what the racquet feels like, not what's on the Yonex website. There will be differing opinions here and we appreciate that. As far as: "Is 100zx is better than astrox 99 and voltric z force 2". Purely from an opinion standpoint, I prefer the Astrox 99 compared to the other two. But that is purely a preference based on the racquet types I like and how I play.
@@Volantbadminton true. Let's get both the 99 and the zz rackets. This way we could get to try and compare both. We all need spare rackets anyway as strings usually only last a couple of weeks. Hopefully supply and logistics won't get affected by this Covid disease like how our local club is running out of shuttle cocks as China is not exporting anymore.😔
Hey nice video but i wanna ask a question to you(Sorry if my English is not well :)) I'am type player attack and control you prefer me to choose ZZ or ZX Than if i use Aerobite string 24-25 lbs is that good for me?
Hi There, no problems. Can you confirm something for me. Are you saying that you're an all-rounder? If you are an all-rounder, (both attacking and control) I would choose the ZZ instead of the ZX between these two racquets. If you're mostly an offensive player, than I would say the ZX but it depends on the type of racquet you like to play with as well. As far as string tension is concerned, it's hard to say whether 24-25lbs is suitable for you. String tension is more an art than a science, so you will need to test various different types and see what works best for you. Hope this helps and good luck!
id recommend 26-28 lb if you play attacking style. a lot of the high end rackets don't fully release their potentials unless you string them in high tension
Hi Arlo, good question :) It's important to consider performance as a whole and the racquet is more of a tool than anything. There are a few elements to consider with your performance with a racquet, the key ones being: The racquet itself, the string tension, string type, stringing method (less so). I would consider this in isolation and say that 23lbs is on the lighter end for tension but string tension is more of an art than science. Both Jeff and I use different string tensions,strings, racquets and grip types! At a lower tension, the sweet spot is enlarged and helps players with consistency as a result but compromise power, crispness and control. The racquet itself will still move the same way as you're not changing anything fundamentally with it and the benefits of the racquet will be the same. However, your performance as a player will be a result of the mix of these different factors. Lots of moving parts here Arlo, hope that helps!
Hi, I am using Yonex NF800 3UG6(even balance) and Victor TK-F 3UG5(slightly head heavy) with 27-29lbs AB Boost string, the 3U NF800 is very good to control, but not quite good in attack, the 3U TK-F is a little bit too heavy for me but the 4U version is too light. If the 100zz compare to both of this racquets, what is your opinion? If I want to buy the 100zz, I should choose 3U or 4U?
Hi there, Based on what I'm reading I would think that the 100ZZ 3U would be a better option for you but I haven't used that version yet and I also haven't used the TK-F 3UG5 so it's hard for me to provide anything objective. I'm mostly going based off my experience with the NF800 (3U). If the 3U NF800 isn't as powerful as you'd like, I probably wouldn't use a 4U 100ZZ.
Which string and what tension feels good and for great hitting like easy clears or easy backhands and for good smashing hitting too with the 100ZZ according to y'all tested till
First time trying my 100zz 4U today. I find it's comparable with my all time favourite ZF2 4U and easier to handle than my AX99 4U. The 100zz felt great with smashes and clears. Drop shots are great. What I didn't like about it is I don't get that feel/feedback that I had with my zf2 for net and mid court shots. Perhaps i need more time to get use to it.
Yay Finally found a really good review and a really good channel SUbscribed Btw which racket is head heavy (not too much head heavy) and is also lightweight (any rackets from yonex?) Also any good budget head heavy lightweight rackets? thanks a lot
Hmm we're not too familiar with the budget space Nihal. But in terms of Yonex rackets that are head heavy and not too heavy, I think you should really check out the 88D pro! We've reviewed that one too. Thanks for your support!
@@Volantbadminton Ok thanks a lot, will keep supporting Also which is the best in these (same criteria head heavy, not too head heavy, and is lightweight) Astrox 99, Astrox 100 zz, Astrox 88d pro or Voltric z force 2 Thanks a lot for replying back Your Fan
@@nihalsameer6417 We'd probably suggest either the 100ZZ or the 88D pro out of that criteria! But as you're looking for light weight, maybe consider the 4U versions of those rackets!
Hi what racquet would you advise i try for a intermediate player. Play predominantly singles and prefer control over power/smash. Have a budget of less than 200aud. I'm able to get the 100zx with strings for under 200.
Volant Rogue S1 haha :) Not even lying, I don't own any other rackets. Jeff prefers head heavy rackets so when he plays competitively, he uses the Li Ning N90 III
personally i find the astrox 100zx is a bit of a gimmick, for what it suppose to be. i find it more front court to mid court than the rear court. if you like the astrox 88s but want more speed. this racket could be for you. the astrox 100zz is nice and crisp in feel. the astrox 100 series is like a parallel world to the astrox 88 except siuted to possibly a different style of play. i would have to disagree on the zx being stiffer than te zz. i find the zx easier to use but also not very stable, i would probably prefer the 88s pro over the 100zx. not saying the 100zx is a terrible racket its just a bit of a disaapointment that its like 2 different rackets in the 'all-rounded' category. this is my opinions of it. the astrox 100zz is a much stiffer in my opinion but somehow yonex made it quite appliable. you would require quite some fast swing speeds or strength to make use of it. and again this is my thoughts on the rackets. im hearing many variants on the 100zx in both specs and balance. so i would say buy the 100zx with caution as many reviews are either against each other or agree.
What do you guys think durability wise of the astrox 100ZZ? I like the potential for both singles and doubles but I fear the ultra thin design of the shaft especially since Victor Axelsen has already broken 2 of them. I definitely do not play as much as him (I play 2-3 times per week and id consider myself an intermediate player) but for how expensive it is I would hope this isnt a common problem.
Hi Trevor, wish we could comment on the durability of the racket. After we test rackets, we return them so unfortunately don't really get a great gauge on how durable the racket is. Without a doubt, the quality of the 100ZZ is high. As to how durable it is, unfortunately, we would be lying if we told you something!
Thanks for the review. How would you compare 100 ZZ/ZX and 88 D/S for doubles? I usually play doubles (slightly inclined towards backcourt). Let me know your thoughts lol
Hi Andy, we've both had limited hitting experience with the 88D/S. I have played with the 88D (not the 88S and Jeff hasn't played with either), but this was sometime last year. Inclined towards the back court because you''re an offensive player that likes to smash a lot? If that's the case then the ZX is probably a more conventionally powerful racquet than the ZZ. However, based on my memory (if it serves me correctly), I would prefer to play at the back court with the 100ZZ (I'm too weak to get the most out of the 100ZX) and 88D. Not sure if that helps, but if we manage to get back on court again, we'll look to reviewing those racquets too as it's definitely been asked a lot!
100zz is very stiff. Don’t even think about it if you don’t have good technique. Thruster F Enhanced is a very popular attacking doubles racket. Less stiff than 100zz and has a good balance of speed and power.
Windstorm 72 is a fckin masterpiece never used a masterpiece like that even though I’ve the zf2 , arc11, 100zz, duora zstrike … and still love the windstorm 72 . Its a beast..
Hii, I'm a type of player who can simultaneously play in the rear and back court well in doubles. Do you think the 100 zz would be a fitting racket for me ? Does it not feel to solid? because I kinda prefer a responsive racket in terms of receiving the shuttle. Do you think Aerobite boost does the job with a 27 x 29 tension when it comes to durability, power and control?
Isn't the rear and the back court the same? Are you referring to front and back? 100ZZ is pretty responsive and a solid racket. Can't really go wrong with it. String tension is very personal and subject to your abilities as a player too so that's hard for us to say. For us, that tension would be fine. For you, you'll need to decide that!
Hi Chi Hu, are you talking about the ZZ or ZX? For defence, we preferred the ZZ when comparing the 100ZZ, 100ZX and 88D. The 88D feels very hard on contact with the shuttle but the ZZ feels like it has more 'whip' in the swing. But if you like a harder feeling, then the 88D might be better for you!
@@Volantbadminton I already have 88D 4u, I would like to increase the frontcourt swinging speed but also not losing the backcourt smashing power, which racket do you recommend? 100zz 4u or nf800 3u(i played doubles and backcourt smasher )thx for answering :)
@@chihu4745 I'm probably quite biased because of the Yonex rackets we've tested the NF800 3U is my favourite. I think the 100ZZ 4U is definitely a good one to consider for the points your mentioning compared to the 88D 4U for sure. The NF800 would take a while to get used to at the back court because it's quite head light so you may be more comfortable with the 100ZZ 4U. That being said, a 3U version of the NF800 would feel overall heavier so it's a tough decision. I would suggest seeing if you have a friend/s with the rackets and testing first before you commit!
We don't sell the racquet but we have partnered with Badminton Click who do sell it. Their link is in the description as well as a special code we have for our viewers of 5% off :)
Better than my zf ii in defence especially in doubles but lacked in smash power for the back court player . Would zz plays better or same as 88d? Zf ii would not perform the same after an hour of play.
@@facultiesofthemind I can't give you an accurate comparison to be honest. Even though I've played with the 88D, I played with it using different strings/tension to the ZZ that I used. I think I wouldn't be giving you an objective answer if I said one or the other in this case. We may potentially review the 88D formally at some point, so I'll come back to you if I get a better answer for you!
Hi Rajat, we don't sell the racquets ourselves. You can find the price here with our special offer: badmintonclick.com.au/pages/volant-wear-specials?_pos=1&_sid=0788069cd&_ss=r&fbclid=IwAR21LnBOmuF5Wtb_ySqQSVV9eAPwZ8wyegU5ruKN1VFlelhw2Bkwpbdb9bQ
Hi there, good question. The 88S feels more like a 99 to me compared to the ZZ. I think the momentum generated with the 88S is a bit more obvious in comparison to the ZZ, which I would think feels slightly less heavy comparitively when swung. Although it's been a while since I've had a hit with an 88S!
Hi there, private coaching might depend on where you are in the world! Where abouts are you based? I'm not quite sure what you're asking with your first question but the best/lightest racquet we've tested properly is the NF800 :)
I like the way you score the experiences in such categories, it would be awesome if you could compare between different rackets such as astrox 99 vs astrox 100 zz or astrox 88D/S vs 100ZZ/Z and some other popular rackets such as ZF2, Duora Z Strike etc
Also how about a video about composing an ideal racket for ie a racket that has ZF2 smashing power, 88S control/handling, nanoray speed etc
The ideal racket video would be about each characteristic of multiple rackets, that will be a challenge
Nice video I like it
The problem with an "ideal racket" is that it does not exist. If a racket is ideal for me, it doesn't mean that it will be ideal for you. No matter how well a racket is designed, it can't escape the rules of physics, give the same current technologies. If you want the smashing power of the ZF2, you would have to sacrifice some speed and control, and vice versa for other rackets.
@@tnghiem84 agreed, but knowing the advantage of multiple racket might be useful for those who know their strength in certain skill
If we can pull those advantages into one imaginary "ideal racket" while the point is to get as much info from multiple rackets might benefit those esp in high school
Some of my varsity students like to smash a lot while others like to do trick shots or stroke play
@@the0neObserver
Hi Dave, thanks for the feedback and your comments @tnghiem84. An ideal racquet video would be an interesting one. Although, we probably haven't tested enough racquets formally at this stage to be able to provide a compelling answer! As far as comparing racquets, we don't have plans to at this stage but will definitely keep it in mind for future videos! My concern with comparing racquets is that all of them tend to have their own strengths and weaknesses that are designed for various types of players. The scoring system we use is to hopefully make things a bit more objective so that in the future (when we have tested many), you can get a good idea between racquets based on their rating discrepancies :)
@@tnghiem84 totally that there's no ideal racket for everyone, but there is an ideal racket for one.
Aloha Henry and Jeff, great review of the Astrox 100 ZZ and Astrox 100 ZX. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together. Looking forward to trying them out. Your control and speed rating sells the Astrox 100 ZZ. Defense wins games.
Thanks for your feedback Bryan and hope that you enjoy trying them out! Let us know what you think :)
Very through and comprehensive review. Interesting that you find the ZX the siffer racket. The ZZ is the more expensive racket with the solid shaft and fully 'made in Japan' while the ZX has a hollow made in Japan shaft but apparently the frame is made in Taiwan and is also the cheaper and therefore by inference the lower spec racket.
Would be interested to hear your views on how it compares to the Nanoflare 800 (I know that's a head light racket) and the Auraspeed 90/90K/98k and the X Drive 9x.
thanks
Thanks for the thoughtful comment db qu. Certainly odd that it felt different to how it had been described by Yonex. I'd suggest trying them both out and letting us know what you think :) NF800 vs Astrox ZZ is a very interesting comparison. Personally, I'd prefer the NF800 over the Astrox ZZ as I have a rather large swing and benefit from the momentum I can generate with the NF800. I can't really comment on the others unfortunately as I've never used them!
Thanks for the review guys. I own the 100ZZ and ZX, the ZZ is by far the stiffest racket yonex ever made so I'm not quite sure how you guys find the ZX stiffer in its shaft. Also the 100ZZ is very head heavy. To be honest the moment I played with the 100ZZ I got elbow and shoulder injuries. And I never had this with any rackets in the 20 years I play badminton. This racket is unforgiving in speedy movements that require fast wristmovement.
Oh really? Great to hear different opinions :)
I completely agree with Dion!!!
I've got a shoulder injury too although initially developed my injury using the Voltric LD Force, I don't know if it's shoulder impingement or partially torn something, but using the 100zz did not help my injury, just made it worse, I feel like you have to have really good technique and timing to not get injured by it and plus have a fast arm to unlock the full benefits
The 4u 100zz doesn’t feel much head heavy and very light
I really really enjoy your racket videos! Very calm, informative but still entertaining.
I think about buying one of these two, but deciding between the two is so hard, because reviews seem to be all over the place: I've seen many reviews say ZZ is stiffer and more unforgiving then ZX, however you said the exact opposite. Some people rate ZZ as soft, some rate it as stiff and then Yonex says it's extra stiff. Same with play style: Yonex and some other reviewers describes it as a power racket, you however describe it as an allround control racket. Racket reviews are always very subjective, but with these two it seems like people really can not decide. The only thing everyone can agree on is that both are great rackets :D
Haha yeah it can definitely be conflicting. Sometimes we pick up a racket and don't look at the specs... then are surprised with the specs because they seem to be different to what we felt! At the end of the day, it's very much about personal preference and the best way is to try them yourself. Hopefully you know of some people who have both models so that you can try them yourself?
I have the ZZ I find it difficult to use and generate power from quick flicks and smashes, feels sluggish somewhat to me, good for defending I find and you can get a steep smash but lacks power.
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Thank-you guys for this review! I just picked up a nearly brand new 100 zx for $100 cad. Have yet to try it out, but even more excited now!
Hope you enjoy it!
Where did u buy it from?
Great review! Since there is no review for 88d, how would you compare and choose between 100zz and 88d? I am struggling for these two racquets.
same here. would like to see your thoughtss between these 2 rackets especially on 4u form.
Seems like a recurring theme for a comparison here. At this stage, I can't comment objectively because the the 88D and 100ZZ I've used had completely different string/tension. Watch this space as it seems like something people would like to know!
Posion cobra has a review for the 88D? And from what I heard, the 88D and the 99 will be a more powerful racket compared to the 100ZZ. But the 100ZZ will be a better in being an all rounder. Posion cobra compared the 100ZZ and the 88D in his 100zz video.
Loved the video, however, I read on many websites, and even other reviews on the zx that the zx has an extra slim shaft, not a hyper slim shaft
Thank you for the early review, hope you can compare these to other high end rackets currently in the market! Like will it be worth it replacing my LD force with one of these?
Hey Z3R05G, in short, probably not. But to be honest, I've never hit with an LD force before. My question would be, what's the reason for considering getting a new racquet for you? Are you happy with the LD force?
@@Volantbadminton thank you for your input! It's just an issue of availability. I doubt it will break anytime soon, i dont string super high tensions. But i was just thinking of moving on to newer models for easier access!
Love the content, please do more!
Ah okay, makes sense! We'll keep trying :)
Shouldnt The ZZ be more head heavy and stiff than The ZX?
It didn't feel that way when playing 🤔
In theory it should, but the material kinda makes it feel stiff but maintains that extra stiff. If you tried the z strike before. It has a simular feel to it
@@ovtroll1199 okay then i think i kinda get the feeling of the zx. I also have the z strike myself. Thanks!
Nice video man! Btw, I need your help man. I’m type player focus on defend and control.. Any racket suggestion🤣
Hi Terence, if you're after something new, then my suggestion would be the NF800 or 100ZZ (my preference would be the NF800, but that's just me)
For singles what do u think is better? Astrox 100ZZ or the Astrox 88D Pro
I like the way you guys make reviews about rackets , it is clear to understand. I wonder , is astrox 99 better or astrox 100 zz for player that play both double and single .
Thanks Winson! :) Completely personal opinion response coming, I would prefer the 100ZZ for both as I'd still feel the 99 is slightly heavier than I would like (knit picking and personal preference) compared to the 100ZZ
Great quality of content bro ... btw is this racket is all around type just like arcsaber 11 ?
Thank you! All around to moderately aggressive. Different feel to the Arc11, worth giving it a try!
If you need to choose between NF800 vs 100ZZ, which one you will pick??
Great review guys! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! :) You keep up the good work too!
In terms of head-heaviness, how do you compare 3u 100zz, 4u 99, and 4u zf2?
Good question. We've only tested the 4U100zz, 4U99, and 3UZF2 so can't really give you the answer you're looking for! Will let you know if we test the other versions to compare
Hello :)
How would you compare this with the nf 800 in contrast to its power, cause you rated the nf 800 higher which is 9; and also about the precision towards the shuttle?
I'm a hard hitting player but I rather highlight the placement of the shuttle play. What racket do suggest me buying next :) ?
Good question! We definitely like the zz more than the zx - and feel that it is more powerful. Precision-wise, the NF800 and the ZZ are both good! But the ZZ has a bit more weight to the head whereas the NF800 feels a little lighter in the head.
Astrox 100zz or nano flare 800 what you prefer?
I wanted to get a new racquet and I'm a bit confused to pick one
My choice's :
1. Astrox 100zz
2. Astrox 88s
3. Astrox 88d
Any other racquet suggestions would be appreciated
Note : I'm a front and back players as well , i want to add power to my smash and i love to do trick shots.
Thankyou
Hi Dinesh,
The Volant Rogue S1 is always an option too!
But if we were to pick from those, we would choose the 100zz... unless you meant the 88d pro - in which we would choose that!
I have both the astrox 99 and astrox 88d. However i prefer the 88d more, do u think the 100zz would be an upgrade?
Hi RJ, thanks for your message. Difficult to say because we haven't reviewed the 88D properly and the last time we played with that racquet was a very long time ago (over a year). We've had requests for reviews on the 88D so watch this space when we're allowed to get back to the courts in Melbourne, Australia :)
Is 100zx is better than astrox 99 and voltric z force 2
From their review, no.
Should we go for 99 then
@Tucson Jim is your AX99 3U or 4U?also, have you had any chance to try LDF?
Hi all,
Thanks for the comments! To give you all a better understanding of how Jeff and I review racquets. We actually don't look at the technical aspects (what's on paper, i.e. extra-stiff etc.) of a racquet until after we have reviewed/commented on it as we want to remain as objective as possible in our reviews. Hence, our ratings and comments are based on what the racquet feels like, not what's on the Yonex website. There will be differing opinions here and we appreciate that.
As far as: "Is 100zx is better than astrox 99 and voltric z force 2". Purely from an opinion standpoint, I prefer the Astrox 99 compared to the other two. But that is purely a preference based on the racquet types I like and how I play.
@@Volantbadminton true. Let's get both the 99 and the zz rackets. This way we could get to try and compare both. We all need spare rackets anyway as strings usually only last a couple of weeks. Hopefully supply and logistics won't get affected by this Covid disease like how our local club is running out of shuttle cocks as China is not exporting anymore.😔
Hey nice video but i wanna ask a question to you(Sorry if my English is not well :))
I'am type player attack and control you prefer me to choose ZZ or ZX
Than if i use Aerobite string 24-25 lbs is that good for me?
Hi There, no problems. Can you confirm something for me. Are you saying that you're an all-rounder? If you are an all-rounder, (both attacking and control) I would choose the ZZ instead of the ZX between these two racquets. If you're mostly an offensive player, than I would say the ZX but it depends on the type of racquet you like to play with as well. As far as string tension is concerned, it's hard to say whether 24-25lbs is suitable for you. String tension is more an art than a science, so you will need to test various different types and see what works best for you. Hope this helps and good luck!
id recommend 26-28 lb if you play attacking style. a lot of the high end rackets don't fully release their potentials unless you string them in high tension
@@stevel5806I'am not a very great player my normal tension is 24lbs with BG66 Brilliant but I'am not very like the string so i want move to Aerobite
Hi Jeff and Henry! Would the tension be too low and affect the performance of the ax100zz if it was strung at 23lbs?
Hi Arlo, good question :) It's important to consider performance as a whole and the racquet is more of a tool than anything. There are a few elements to consider with your performance with a racquet, the key ones being: The racquet itself, the string tension, string type, stringing method (less so). I would consider this in isolation and say that 23lbs is on the lighter end for tension but string tension is more of an art than science. Both Jeff and I use different string tensions,strings, racquets and grip types! At a lower tension, the sweet spot is enlarged and helps players with consistency as a result but compromise power, crispness and control. The racquet itself will still move the same way as you're not changing anything fundamentally with it and the benefits of the racquet will be the same. However, your performance as a player will be a result of the mix of these different factors. Lots of moving parts here Arlo, hope that helps!
Volant Wear thanks for the reply! your reply definitely helps much!
Hi, I am using Yonex NF800 3UG6(even balance) and Victor TK-F 3UG5(slightly head heavy) with 27-29lbs AB Boost string, the 3U NF800 is very good to control, but not quite good in attack, the 3U TK-F is a little bit too heavy for me but the 4U version is too light. If the 100zz compare to both of this racquets, what is your opinion? If I want to buy the 100zz, I should choose 3U or 4U?
Hi there,
Based on what I'm reading I would think that the 100ZZ 3U would be a better option for you but I haven't used that version yet and I also haven't used the TK-F 3UG5 so it's hard for me to provide anything objective. I'm mostly going based off my experience with the NF800 (3U). If the 3U NF800 isn't as powerful as you'd like, I probably wouldn't use a 4U 100ZZ.
Which string and what tension feels good and for great hitting like easy clears or easy backhands and for good smashing hitting too with the 100ZZ according to y'all tested till
Our go-to is Nanogy 98 at around 28-30lbs
First time trying my 100zz 4U today. I find it's comparable with my all time favourite ZF2 4U and easier to handle than my AX99 4U.
The 100zz felt great with smashes and clears. Drop shots are great. What I didn't like about it is I don't get that feel/feedback that I had with my zf2 for net and mid court shots. Perhaps i need more time to get use to it.
Great to hear your feedback!!!
Jeff really looks like TaeYang from Bigbang. lol it's a good video tho, really holistic and comprehensive.
Haha thanks! :)
Have any difference Astrox 100ZZ with Astrox 100ZZ Kurenai based on handling,control,speed and power?
Didnt feel much difference!
Yay
Finally found a really good review and a really good channel
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Btw which racket is head heavy (not too much head heavy) and is also lightweight (any rackets from yonex?)
Also any good budget head heavy lightweight rackets?
thanks a lot
Hmm we're not too familiar with the budget space Nihal. But in terms of Yonex rackets that are head heavy and not too heavy, I think you should really check out the 88D pro! We've reviewed that one too. Thanks for your support!
@@Volantbadminton Ok thanks a lot, will keep supporting
Also which is the best in these (same criteria head heavy, not too head heavy, and is lightweight)
Astrox 99, Astrox 100 zz, Astrox 88d pro or Voltric z force 2
Thanks a lot for replying back
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@@nihalsameer6417 We'd probably suggest either the 100ZZ or the 88D pro out of that criteria! But as you're looking for light weight, maybe consider the 4U versions of those rackets!
@@Volantbadminton Thanks a lot
Hi what racquet would you advise i try for a intermediate player. Play predominantly singles and prefer control over power/smash. Have a budget of less than 200aud. I'm able to get the 100zx with strings for under 200.
Hi tall, the 100zx would be a reasonable racquet to consider in that price range. Do you have any other racquets that you're interested in?
@@Volantbadminton will be having a hit tomorrow with the Zforce 11, duora 10LT, astrox 55 and one more. Was also looking at the arcsaber 11 and 100zx
hey u said astrox zz has lesser power like u gave it 7 points for power , wt about the 3u version of astrox zz
Which rackets do you both use as your mainn for singles??
Volant Rogue S1 haha :) Not even lying, I don't own any other rackets. Jeff prefers head heavy rackets so when he plays competitively, he uses the Li Ning N90 III
@@Volantbadminton 😂😂, that proves that the Volant rogue s1 is something awesome.
Ohh ok, anyways thx
Astrox 100zz,88d pro or 99 pro?
Hi volant, which is better the atrox 100z or doura 10? Thanks
We prefer the 100zz
@@Volantbadminton thank you. I ordered the 100zz
the key dislike henry had with ZX is the reason why i bought the ZZ. i played with both racket and it really feels like night and day between the 2
Glad you could see the difference too!
Hi i know its a little late but what was the difference yoh found between the 2?
personally i find the astrox 100zx is a bit of a gimmick, for what it suppose to be. i find it more front court to mid court than the rear court. if you like the astrox 88s but want more speed. this racket could be for you. the astrox 100zz is nice and crisp in feel. the astrox 100 series is like a parallel world to the astrox 88 except siuted to possibly a different style of play. i would have to disagree on the zx being stiffer than te zz. i find the zx easier to use but also not very stable, i would probably prefer the 88s pro over the 100zx. not saying the 100zx is a terrible racket its just a bit of a disaapointment that its like 2 different rackets in the 'all-rounded' category. this is my opinions of it. the astrox 100zz is a much stiffer in my opinion but somehow yonex made it quite appliable. you would require quite some fast swing speeds or strength to make use of it. and again this is my thoughts on the rackets. im hearing many variants on the 100zx in both specs and balance. so i would say buy the 100zx with caution as many reviews are either against each other or agree.
What do you guys think durability wise of the astrox 100ZZ? I like the potential for both singles and doubles but I fear the ultra thin design of the shaft especially since Victor Axelsen has already broken 2 of them. I definitely do not play as much as him (I play 2-3 times per week and id consider myself an intermediate player) but for how expensive it is I would hope this isnt a common problem.
Hi Trevor, wish we could comment on the durability of the racket. After we test rackets, we return them so unfortunately don't really get a great gauge on how durable the racket is. Without a doubt, the quality of the 100ZZ is high. As to how durable it is, unfortunately, we would be lying if we told you something!
Sounds like I better look into it more before making my decision. Thank you for the response!
@@trevors.242 no problems, all the best!
hii, would you rather play with the 100zz or the duora z strike ? and why
Haven't really tested the duora z strike properly so can't comment! But we'd have no issues with using the 100zz.
@@Volantbadminton thank you :))
how much
Which one better if compare with lining calibar..tq sir
Sorry, we haven't tried that one yet! Will let you know if we do :)
@@Volantbadminton ok tq so much I apriacete dat..
Thanks for the review. How would you compare 100 ZZ/ZX and 88 D/S for doubles? I usually play doubles (slightly inclined towards backcourt). Let me know your thoughts lol
Hi Andy, we've both had limited hitting experience with the 88D/S. I have played with the 88D (not the 88S and Jeff hasn't played with either), but this was sometime last year. Inclined towards the back court because you''re an offensive player that likes to smash a lot? If that's the case then the ZX is probably a more conventionally powerful racquet than the ZZ. However, based on my memory (if it serves me correctly), I would prefer to play at the back court with the 100ZZ (I'm too weak to get the most out of the 100ZX) and 88D. Not sure if that helps, but if we manage to get back on court again, we'll look to reviewing those racquets too as it's definitely been asked a lot!
@@Volantbadminton Thanks:) I got 88D last week and have used it for three times. It is amazing!
@@djokvic1 Glad to hear it Andy!
Hey guys out of your scoring scheme so far which racket has the highest score ?
Hi Dammika, of the racquets we've reviewed, the highest average rating is the NF800 :)
@@Volantbadminton thanks a lot for your reply and hard work. Keep it up. Brgds from Sri Lanka
Jeff I think you should get the 3UG5 Astrox 100 ZZ
Yeah? How come? :)
Volant Wear because he said he wants a heavier racket
bro how 100zz compared to 99pro?? which would you prefer??
I prefer the 99pro but the 100zz is still a top racket!
What string tension you n Jeff like to use?
Hi Iwan Pandin, we like to use 28-30lbs. But it definitely comes down to personal preference!
I’m comparing 100 zz with victor thruster F. Can you give some recommendations please?
100zz is very stiff. Don’t even think about it if you don’t have good technique. Thruster F Enhanced is a very popular attacking doubles racket. Less stiff than 100zz and has a good balance of speed and power.
If for single game which is better ? 100zz or 88D pro ?
Both great haha. I guess the 100ZZ is the more conventional Singles racket but we do really like the 88D pro too!
for singles go for 100zz 3U. That's what Victor Axelsen uses
I'm very very confused about astrox 99 or windstorm 72 please answer this question
Haven't tried the windstorm 72 sorry!
If you’re asking this question then go for Windstorm 72.
Windstorm 72 is a fckin masterpiece never used a masterpiece like that even though I’ve the zf2 , arc11, 100zz, duora zstrike … and still love the windstorm 72 . Its a beast..
Can u compare 88D and 100ZX in both single and double pls
confirming you mean 88D or 88D Pro?
@@Volantbadminton well,88D 2018 (and if you can ,88d tour ) thx
If i want to play double.. 3d calibar or astrox77 or astrox 100zx?? Plis give me a reason.,.🙏🙏
haha that's not easy to answer. doubles has many elements. are you front/rear court player?
@@Volantbadminton front, but i want to good smash to...
@@dennykristianto8123 3d Calibar 900i
Is this original or demo
These are demos
Vinayagamoorthy Thiruchelvam these are the pre released ones
Hii, I'm a type of player who can simultaneously play in the rear and back court well in doubles.
Do you think the 100 zz would be a fitting racket for me ? Does it not feel to solid? because I kinda prefer a responsive racket in terms of receiving the shuttle.
Do you think Aerobite boost does the job with a 27 x 29 tension when it comes to durability, power and control?
Isn't the rear and the back court the same? Are you referring to front and back? 100ZZ is pretty responsive and a solid racket. Can't really go wrong with it. String tension is very personal and subject to your abilities as a player too so that's hard for us to say. For us, that tension would be fine. For you, you'll need to decide that!
@@Volantbadminton yes front and back Haha
Thanks for this :)
Reviw in astrox 88d vs astrox 100zz
Thanks Manikiran, we'll look into when we're no longer in lockdown :)
88D review coming out in a couple of days Manikiran 😀
Hello volant, which is good or bestest racket 100 zz or 88d pro? :)
BOTH
I would prefer the 88D Pro personally
How's the defense feeling ? compare to 88d 4u
Hi Chi Hu, are you talking about the ZZ or ZX? For defence, we preferred the ZZ when comparing the 100ZZ, 100ZX and 88D. The 88D feels very hard on contact with the shuttle but the ZZ feels like it has more 'whip' in the swing.
But if you like a harder feeling, then the 88D might be better for you!
@@Volantbadminton I already have 88D 4u, I would like to increase the frontcourt swinging speed but also not losing the backcourt smashing power, which racket do you recommend? 100zz 4u or nf800 3u(i played doubles and backcourt smasher )thx for answering :)
@@chihu4745 I'm probably quite biased because of the Yonex rackets we've tested the NF800 3U is my favourite. I think the 100ZZ 4U is definitely a good one to consider for the points your mentioning compared to the 88D 4U for sure. The NF800 would take a while to get used to at the back court because it's quite head light so you may be more comfortable with the 100ZZ 4U. That being said, a 3U version of the NF800 would feel overall heavier so it's a tough decision. I would suggest seeing if you have a friend/s with the rackets and testing first before you commit!
How much is it
We don't sell the racquet but we have partnered with Badminton Click who do sell it. Their link is in the description as well as a special code we have for our viewers of 5% off :)
Hi guys, I am more of a doubles backcourt and smashing player. Sometimes singles. Should I buy 88d pro or 100zz kurenai?
btw this is one of the head-heaviest racket till date, how is not not heavy. Kinda confused
It might be because of the rotation generator system which makes it feel less head heavy, even though it isn't! We'd recommend the 88D pro! :)
i have played with both rackets. Both rackets are powerful, 88D Pro has slightly more power, 100zz has more control and slightly quicker.
Recommend upgrade from 88d?
Depends, what do you think of your 88d?
Better than my zf ii in defence especially in doubles but lacked in smash power for the back court player . Would zz plays better or same as 88d? Zf ii would not perform the same after an hour of play.
@@facultiesofthemind i prefer my 88d over the zf2 considerably especially on doubles.
@@facultiesofthemind I can't give you an accurate comparison to be honest. Even though I've played with the 88D, I played with it using different strings/tension to the ZZ that I used. I think I wouldn't be giving you an objective answer if I said one or the other in this case. We may potentially review the 88D formally at some point, so I'll come back to you if I get a better answer for you!
@@kyle618 I agree with you with this Kyle :)
Now I know what to buy
Glad it helped!!
What's the price pls tell
Hi Rajat, we don't sell the racquets ourselves. You can find the price here with our special offer: badmintonclick.com.au/pages/volant-wear-specials?_pos=1&_sid=0788069cd&_ss=r&fbclid=IwAR21LnBOmuF5Wtb_ySqQSVV9eAPwZ8wyegU5ruKN1VFlelhw2Bkwpbdb9bQ
How does 100zz compare to 88s?
Hi there, good question. The 88S feels more like a 99 to me compared to the ZZ. I think the momentum generated with the 88S is a bit more obvious in comparison to the ZZ, which I would think feels slightly less heavy comparitively when swung. Although it's been a while since I've had a hit with an 88S!
Which is the bestest racket
Between the two, we prefer the 100ZZ
@@Volantbadminton excluding the aesthetics score, ZZ got a total of 67.5 in score, while ZX has got 60.
Sir i have an yonex volttic 200 taufik signature series what racket is best and lightes
And can u give me an pvt coaching
Hi there, private coaching might depend on where you are in the world! Where abouts are you based? I'm not quite sure what you're asking with your first question but the best/lightest racquet we've tested properly is the NF800 :)
Is that best
Best compared to? :)
yonex nanoflare 800 or yonex astrox 100zz 2021??
NF800 for me
Where did you buy it? also I'm a new fan
We were given a demo by a badminton store we collaborate with. If you're interested, their link is in the description. Thanks for being a fan 😊
Volant Wear is it a national delivery
@@mercyvallesteros702 Hi Edwin, yep! They deliver nationwide (if you're in Australia)
Isn't there a G6 with this racket?
Looks like it!
No worries, JP CH, and Malaysia can get G6
100zz or 88d pro ?
Both are great. Depends on you :P I would choose the 88D Pro personally
@@Volantbadminton thx, i will buy it
@@Volantbadminton how much is the string tension ? Main and cross same ?
I will keep my 88d, sounds like it still beats both.
the 88D is a beast! but you can't knock the 100ZZ/ZX without trying it yet
Did you try the 88d pro?
What about AX77
At some point!
Where are you from
Australia :)
Sir please for z force 2 also🤗
Will have to check with the store we partner with! :)
Nice video
Thanks!
sick!
Hey Tuan!
@@Volantbadminton Hi! both rackets are so cool it's so hard to pick. Best way's to try them both out. Keeeeen
@@mewekachichi definitely give them a go!
Mataps
Thanks!