Feliks is still by far the GOAT of cubing, but Yiheng is already the best 3x3 solver ever as he has achieved the same level of dominance in a way more competitive era
Max’s time is almost up. He had complete domination for a couple of years, but I see many surpassing him pretty soon. Nahm and Tymon are already pretty close to his level and they’re rapidly improving at big cubes. Sean is dominating at OH. And Yiheng is the god of 3x3. Max still has 41 wrs to go to tie Feliks’ 121.
I feel like there are some people who average sub 6 at home, but we will never see them because either 1 they don’t have enough money, or 2 they don’t want to go to a competition.
Very nicely done. I really like your story telling abilities. A lot of folks have done videos on this solve (including JPerm coming out of retirement), but this is one of the best ones I've seen. I enjoyed the video from beginning to end. Keep up all the great work!
You have the best analytical cubing content out there, super impressive! I really enjoy and appreciate what you're doing and it's a good day when a new STUCUBE video drops!
Great vid, was waiting for it to drop, didn’t want any spoilers so I avoided his vid as well for this one. Also in this comp, it seems yiheng did 4x4 and 5x5 as well so in about a year maybe yiheng might compete for those wrs as well. Not sure about 5x5 because small fingers.
16:10 As for the limit of speedcubing, you simply can’t beat efficiency. There will always be the question of, “well what if x cuber had the move count of Tymon Kolasiński?” And THAT will always be the true limit of speedcubing.
I think the true limit will be reached by a savant of some sort, the likes of which cubing hasn't yet seen. All sorts of disciplines have savants with god-like abilities that make even the other bests look like beginners. Sometimes the savants even have mental deficiencies that accompany their unreal gifts as a tradeoff as well. It's been seen in all sorts of arts, with people who need assistance just living on their own surprisingly creating photorealistic art from memory by hand, people who can outpace calculators, etc. Some people have unusual brain wiring that makes them adept at a particular skill in a way that no amount of practice can touch, as if their brains were more tailored to the specific skill than human life itself overall. My thoughts are that someone is eventually going to have such a specifically wired brain that the puzzle doesn't really look hard to them, ever, kind of like how 2x2 looks to starters who usually assume they can intuitively solve it. They might learn it's tougher than they think, but remain intuitive enough that they're not really thinking in terms of methods and steps, just solving the cube. Years back I had a non-cuber GF who was really amused by the fact that she could make only like 5 or 6 moves on a solved cube, hand it to me, and I often wouldn't be able to quickly enough see the 5 or 6 moves and would instead seemingly half destroy the cube doing like 40-50 CFOP moves from scratch. I actually saw her point. That's pretty weird and a bit embarrassing even. It got me practicing a new thing: Performing optimal solutions on progressively higher move count scrambles, starting with 3. I eventually worked up to like 8 or 9 in my prime of it, performed rather slowly though. It got me thinking: What if someone, without practice, could just see that far like a matter of 2 plus 2, and practice got them to like 12 to 13? No scramble is more than 20 moves away, so it seems just a little clever block building could potentially get them to the point that they just see the rest of the solution. A lesser version of this would be building a 2x2x3 on the left while preparing edges and finishing off the solve with nothing but intuitive 2-gen U and R (practiced from 3 off moves and working up, like before). That much I think is DEFINITELY possible because I'm borderline capable of it myself, albeit slowly. Keep in mind that I'm talking about the sort of person who can just "see" OLL and PLL solutions without ever looking up an alg. You would be surprised how many non-cubing mathematicians were able to simply see and contribute to algs back in the day without even getting to the actual commutators, etc.. Cross was also introduced by a mathematician who proved it would never take more than 8 moves and would make corners easier. TL;DR: Eventually a cuber may learn to (quickly) intuitively see the best solution to anything less than 10 moves away, and to get the cube into such a solvable state with only a previous 10 moves planned in inspection. That could lead to a few luckier 12-16 move solves being performed at 12-16 TPS. That and Heise are the only way forward after someone couples 1L F2L with 1LLL. Yiheng and one other kid are on the verge of 1L F2L planned in inspection, and there are currently two people who know and recognize 1LLL faster than they can do OLL and PLL. So that particular combination will doubtlessly be expected of the top 10 in another ten years. Again, I see no way forward from that aside from Heise and what I've described.
Yiheng's response to losing to Max Park at worlds making it almost impossible for him to take back the 3x3 WR Average and getting tons of 4 second averages to say Max I am coming for you in 2025
Talents like him always seem like their records will never be beaten, and they usually won't be by any of their peers. But then the next generation (of talent, technique, technology, or rulesets etc) comes along and opens the door for these records to be pushed even further.
Can’t believe 6th of July was only 5 days ago It was the wr average, ur channel anniversary and my cubing anniversary. Looking forward to pyra and clock falling under the rule of Yiheng and becoming an even more irrelevant event
Starting with a 6.11 and still getting a 4.36 WR average is beyond impressive! Yiheng is really in a league of his own right now. But imo nobody will surpass Feliks as the GOAT.
My hot take I said a couple weeks ago was that we will never see another world champion over the age of 15. I really hope that doesn’t happen but if I had to guess. As for WR, no idea but hopefully like 17 at least
It would be really interesting if some industrious cubing stats person would document world-record averages by ratio of the solver's age to the time in the average i.e., "years of age per solved seconds" (or the inverse). Plot it versus time since the year 2000 or the like...
Can confirm YiHeng YiHenged his way through the speedcubing competition. Also, here's the weekly "hate" comment lol: I am not a fan of football (American).
I feel some negativity here.. It's nice that people are becoming better and better in cubing. We should see this as progress and an inspiration. Feeling that one will never get that good is merely toxic and this is not what cubing is about. Cubing is a hobby and having fun. And yes, I am specifically referring to comments such as 'a six year old is better than you'.
You can accept that you’ll probably never be the best at something and still enjoy it. Nothing’s impossible, but someone who starts at 3 years old is gonna have a huge advantage going forward
Appreciate ur content it's good and all. You have a really unique style of making ur videos. But the things you said like children will always be better at cubing are just all so false. Just because there is an era in cubing where kids are becoming faster, doesnt mean others dont have the capabilities to do the same. Thats so negative of a thing to hear for someone who started cubing recently and is aiming to get world class. Personally i have much experience so as to counter ur statements and opinions but if you told me all this 4 years ago, it would set me off so much. Just because someone is dominating a sport right now, doesnt mean it always has to be the same. I am of the belief that even adults hold the cognitive abilities to learn it "like children". Yess children are very good at learning and adapting but doesnt mean adults cant do the same. Studies have shown that adults can be really fast and good learners just like young children. so yeaaa its not important that just becoz somebody started young, they are BOUND to be better and that you are bound to be worse. Remember? We are still a growing community and we have to attract people towards it and not steer them away by making and spreading such false assumptions. Plz do consider my thoughts on this as you are going to influence the community as a whole soon as u grow.
I can definitely see what you’re saying. It’s a pretty harsh reality, but I still think (at least for the very highest level) one would have to start at a young age if they want a chance. It comes down to both the learning capability but mostly how much time they are able to dedicate to cubing. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t cube though, it’s ok to do something because you love it even if you won’t be the best in the world.
@@STUCUBE time isn't a problem. Cubing is a very student friendly hobby.its all about ur devotion.yiheng isn't doing it on free will(at least some part of it). He is made to do it. Yeaa it's true that children have good abilities but I'm guessing it's some psychology article you read that has made ur opinions so strong. These articles are often misleading as these are partially researched and partially observed. These are often biased. First things first:you want to get world class in today's date?you don't need to do any insane stuff. Just practice right and get used to competion environments. How does Kyle santuci manage to pull off sub wrs at home but not at comps?cubing academies in china are significantly different from how we,the people who learn from yt think. Yiheng is taught pretty insane stuff like 1 looking solves(at least near 1 looking)just for practice and his tps is specifically trained. Every aspect of his solve is trained extensively as he has coaches and guidance. We aren't remotely near that level of guidance/teaching.so it's pretty wrong to make assumptions. As for the psychological part, the fact is:it's psychological. If you believe In such stuff(which I don't) there are people who specifically bring back that "child mentality" just to learn skills like languages as you said but that's weird stuff. You don't NEED to be doing that for cubing and to get world class. Just train extensively and become better than yiheng! No one will know this better than you, a reconstructor tat yiheng solves aren't so efficient after all. Even tymon has space for improvement. Yiheng also locks up often. Watch Dylan millers video where he explains the things that yiheng is prolly missing. And tho kids have their own advantages, it doesn't mean that we have disadvantages. Even if you believe so, tell me how are so many blinders adults?how is sean dominating OH in teenage?how does the megaminx WR holder manages to do it?how was Zayn khanani dominating 2*2 before yiheng?how did tymon improve as a teen? Believe it or not,there's no such thing as you are saying. Consider other skills.are only the people who learnt early able to become successful. Cubing isn't that much of a genius' game but people manage to adapt to learning at much higher ages. As the saying goes, age is just a number.
Although there are fast people who are older, they all probably started very young. Also, in the future this will definitely be the case that you have to start young to get world class (for reasons already said; like spare time and learning ability)
This record was so crazy it brought Jperm back.
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yes lol
I know!
W yiheng
insaane
Feliks is still by far the GOAT of cubing, but Yiheng is already the best 3x3 solver ever as he has achieved the same level of dominance in a way more competitive era
True. I don’t think he’ll ever be overtaken for overall GOAT
@@STUCUBE Dont see anyone surpassing Feliks' 121 WRs, if that happens then maybe...
@@Yurio lol yeah
Oh, so Max
Max’s time is almost up. He had complete domination for a couple of years, but I see many surpassing him pretty soon. Nahm and Tymon are already pretty close to his level and they’re rapidly improving at big cubes. Sean is dominating at OH. And Yiheng is the god of 3x3. Max still has 41 wrs to go to tie Feliks’ 121.
That language analogy was on point
your documentary style is so good! keep going STUCUBE ! you will definitely become the next Cubehead !
I recently got surgery on my hand so I cant cube ty so much for uploading content so I have something to watch and feel like im still cubing ty!
Get better soon
@@Da_Rizzley_Bear ty hope to see you in more streams
OH learning time
Time for OH
I average 3 seconds but i have no money to go to competitions 😢
I feel like there are some people who average sub 6 at home, but we will never see them because either 1 they don’t have enough money, or 2 they don’t want to go to a competition.
🧢
How did you buy a speedcube then?
Stop the cap bro
@@table5584I agree but this guy is not him
Very nicely done. I really like your story telling abilities. A lot of folks have done videos on this solve (including JPerm coming out of retirement), but this is one of the best ones I've seen. I enjoyed the video from beginning to end. Keep up all the great work!
it's insane that this channel has only 18k sub, this is by far one of the best cubing channels out there at the moment
Editing is cracked bro
bro you need to walk me thru your process
The editing on your world record video was pretty nice. I could learn a lot from you as well haha
@@STUCUBEBoth of you guys are CRACKED on another level 🫡
@@CuberCaiden nah I am not worthy of this ytber chat
Time to get my popcorn.STU uploaded 😊
Yiheng with 4.36 and your breakdown is nice , keep going straight boy!
Dude, great videos, like really, the editing, especially sound is great dude, keep doing great job 👍
My favorite place to get news on cubing! Keep it coming, you're doing a great job! Superb analysis and commentary.😊
Stu you should make a video on Jperm's youtube career and how it seems he only uploads when a record is broken😂
You have the best analytical cubing content out there, super impressive! I really enjoy and appreciate what you're doing and it's a good day when a new STUCUBE video drops!
U R the best Youcuber that makes documentaries
Great vid, was waiting for it to drop, didn’t want any spoilers so I avoided his vid as well for this one. Also in this comp, it seems yiheng did 4x4 and 5x5 as well so in about a year maybe yiheng might compete for those wrs as well. Not sure about 5x5 because small fingers.
That’s crazy I really appreciate u 🙏
Yeah Yiheng does big cubes sometimes but I think he’s too focused on 3x3 and 2x2 to become world class
Almost at 20K
hi
He will get there
Yiheng is on another level and he's probably just getting warmed up!
Now , only Yieng Wang jr. Can break this record 😂
I saw the reconstruction from J-perm already because,🤯 He’s back! But I’m gonna watch STU’s version because his videos are really good.
Thank you.
yiheng is the chosen one for 2x2 & 3x3
are we supposed to be impressed or scared... :/
16:10 As for the limit of speedcubing, you simply can’t beat efficiency. There will always be the question of, “well what if x cuber had the move count of Tymon Kolasiński?” And THAT will always be the true limit of speedcubing.
I think the true limit will be reached by a savant of some sort, the likes of which cubing hasn't yet seen. All sorts of disciplines have savants with god-like abilities that make even the other bests look like beginners.
Sometimes the savants even have mental deficiencies that accompany their unreal gifts as a tradeoff as well. It's been seen in all sorts of arts, with people who need assistance just living on their own surprisingly creating photorealistic art from memory by hand, people who can outpace calculators, etc. Some people have unusual brain wiring that makes them adept at a particular skill in a way that no amount of practice can touch, as if their brains were more tailored to the specific skill than human life itself overall.
My thoughts are that someone is eventually going to have such a specifically wired brain that the puzzle doesn't really look hard to them, ever, kind of like how 2x2 looks to starters who usually assume they can intuitively solve it.
They might learn it's tougher than they think, but remain intuitive enough that they're not really thinking in terms of methods and steps, just solving the cube.
Years back I had a non-cuber GF who was really amused by the fact that she could make only like 5 or 6 moves on a solved cube, hand it to me, and I often wouldn't be able to quickly enough see the 5 or 6 moves and would instead seemingly half destroy the cube doing like 40-50 CFOP moves from scratch.
I actually saw her point. That's pretty weird and a bit embarrassing even. It got me practicing a new thing: Performing optimal solutions on progressively higher move count scrambles, starting with 3. I eventually worked up to like 8 or 9 in my prime of it, performed rather slowly though.
It got me thinking: What if someone, without practice, could just see that far like a matter of 2 plus 2, and practice got them to like 12 to 13? No scramble is more than 20 moves away, so it seems just a little clever block building could potentially get them to the point that they just see the rest of the solution.
A lesser version of this would be building a 2x2x3 on the left while preparing edges and finishing off the solve with nothing but intuitive 2-gen U and R (practiced from 3 off moves and working up, like before).
That much I think is DEFINITELY possible because I'm borderline capable of it myself, albeit slowly.
Keep in mind that I'm talking about the sort of person who can just "see" OLL and PLL solutions without ever looking up an alg. You would be surprised how many non-cubing mathematicians were able to simply see and contribute to algs back in the day without even getting to the actual commutators, etc.. Cross was also introduced by a mathematician who proved it would never take more than 8 moves and would make corners easier.
TL;DR:
Eventually a cuber may learn to (quickly) intuitively see the best solution to anything less than 10 moves away, and to get the cube into such a solvable state with only a previous 10 moves planned in inspection. That could lead to a few luckier 12-16 move solves being performed at 12-16 TPS.
That and Heise are the only way forward after someone couples 1L F2L with 1LLL. Yiheng and one other kid are on the verge of 1L F2L planned in inspection, and there are currently two people who know and recognize 1LLL faster than they can do OLL and PLL. So that particular combination will doubtlessly be expected of the top 10 in another ten years. Again, I see no way forward from that aside from Heise and what I've described.
first, waiting for the day when we can age backward and be good like 6 year olds again
real
25 sub 5 averages is just insane and now a 4.3 average i cant wait to see what he does next
Yiheng's response to losing to Max Park at worlds making it almost impossible for him to take back the 3x3 WR Average and getting tons of 4 second averages to say Max I am coming for you in 2025
yihen scares the shit out of me. i still have nightmares about him
Talents like him always seem like their records will never be beaten, and they usually won't be by any of their peers. But then the next generation (of talent, technique, technology, or rulesets etc) comes along and opens the door for these records to be pushed even further.
🐐
Can’t believe 6th of July was only 5 days ago
It was the wr average, ur channel anniversary and my cubing anniversary. Looking forward to pyra and clock falling under the rule of Yiheng and becoming an even more irrelevant event
What are those little yellow bags he grabs afterwards? Some sort of rosin or chalk bag? Or is it just something to relieve stress like a squeeze toy?
Pack it up boys, 3x3 is over, time to practice 4x4
Also fun fact, Mats Valk's 4.74 FWR is as of right now not even top 100 anymore 😢
That intro is really well made 🔥 I kinda stopped watching cubing content. glad you got into my yt recommendations
The most scary thing is Yiheng is going to become even more efficient than Tymon, and that would be the end
When there are no 3x3 WRs for so long this is the first one on the channel 😭
I feel like Yiheng will dominate 3x3 for the next 5 or more years
who let him cook
Lesgooo STUCUBE
he broke 3x3 and 2x2, will he break 1x1 next?
JPerm who, this video is incredible. And so is YiHeng 😂
13:32 How does a -man- 10 year old clutch a 4.3 second average?
I guess im getting a 7x7 now 😢
As yes, 10 year old a 4.36 average, pretty normal imo 😂
I feel like you would be a good sports announcer
Starting with a 6.11 and still getting a 4.36 WR average is beyond impressive! Yiheng is really in a league of his own right now. But imo nobody will surpass Feliks as the GOAT.
without all thelockups this could have been 4.1x tbh
13:32 “how does a man”
answer: a man doesn’t. a boy does
Yiheng is crazy, he managed to destroy his old record, but maybe one day Max will get a 4.35 average, or not
I predict that yiheng will be the next champion of wca (iam 10 as well but i dont think i have the skill to challenge him😂)
Stu, who do you think will be the oldest person to ever get a world record in the future?
My hot take I said a couple weeks ago was that we will never see another world champion over the age of 15. I really hope that doesn’t happen but if I had to guess. As for WR, no idea but hopefully like 17 at least
It would be really interesting if some industrious cubing stats person would document world-record averages by ratio of the solver's age to the time in the average i.e., "years of age per solved seconds" (or the inverse). Plot it versus time since the year 2000 or the like...
@@jasonhatfield3084 you should do it that would be interesting and help us predict cubing limits
Well I still have time but not enough. Maybe I’ll get us national record someday but probably not
@@STUCUBEbig cubes tho
So which one was the best solution??
I’d say overall the 4.59 was my favorite
i just dont understand how he keeps getting quicker
Here I am announcing that I’m quitting again
Gr8 vid thx for making everyone’s day with ur amazing videos also pls livestream and i will donate more 🤑
Thx bro ur my favorite rizzly bear 🐻
actually, we will see things like this many times again
I’m more so referring to Yiheng’s dominance in 3x3. Will probably be a lot more parity in the future
I average 3 seconds per move. On a good day😂
Wrong meme at the end. It should say when your age is under your average. Every top cuber has averages under their age
(You’re still in kindergarten)
I could be 45 years old with a 1 minute average and my age would be under my average
Make it 30 sub 5 averages he just got one at Australian nationals
Jperm beat you to releasing a reconstruction.
True.
but you add a touch of drama, which makes it more entertaining.
Me: (sees the title of the vid) but… it’s yiheng…
Hi
maybe that chinese kid that learnt full zbll can save us
Weekly reminder that 6 year olds are better than you
Which part you credited to me?
The Yiheng interview you did. It’s before the 2nd solve
@@STUCUBEi will share this video on my fb page
anyone watching this but have no idea how to even do a 3x3? or is this just me...
You are godlike at cubing commentary 🥹
Can confirm YiHeng YiHenged his way through the speedcubing competition.
Also, here's the weekly "hate" comment lol:
I am not a fan of football (American).
Imagine 15 year old yiheng......
I feel some negativity here.. It's nice that people are becoming better and better in cubing. We should see this as progress and an inspiration. Feeling that one will never get that good is merely toxic and this is not what cubing is about. Cubing is a hobby and having fun. And yes, I am specifically referring to comments such as 'a six year old is better than you'.
I'll never be this fast; AND I'll never give up 3x3.
You can accept that you’ll probably never be the best at something and still enjoy it. Nothing’s impossible, but someone who starts at 3 years old is gonna have a huge advantage going forward
STU IS THE GOAT
I'm very scared of xuanyi geng he's way better than yiheng when he was his age
Appreciate ur content it's good and all. You have a really unique style of making ur videos. But the things you said like children will always be better at cubing are just all so false. Just because there is an era in cubing where kids are becoming faster, doesnt mean others dont have the capabilities to do the same. Thats so negative of a thing to hear for someone who started cubing recently and is aiming to get world class. Personally i have much experience so as to counter ur statements and opinions but if you told me all this 4 years ago, it would set me off so much. Just because someone is dominating a sport right now, doesnt mean it always has to be the same. I am of the belief that even adults hold the cognitive abilities to learn it "like children". Yess children are very good at learning and adapting but doesnt mean adults cant do the same. Studies have shown that adults can be really fast and good learners just like young children. so yeaaa its not important that just becoz somebody started young, they are BOUND to be better and that you are bound to be worse. Remember? We are still a growing community and we have to attract people towards it and not steer them away by making and spreading such false assumptions. Plz do consider my thoughts on this as you are going to influence the community as a whole soon as u grow.
I can definitely see what you’re saying. It’s a pretty harsh reality, but I still think (at least for the very highest level) one would have to start at a young age if they want a chance. It comes down to both the learning capability but mostly how much time they are able to dedicate to cubing. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t cube though, it’s ok to do something because you love it even if you won’t be the best in the world.
@@STUCUBE time isn't a problem. Cubing is a very student friendly hobby.its all about ur devotion.yiheng isn't doing it on free will(at least some part of it). He is made to do it. Yeaa it's true that children have good abilities but I'm guessing it's some psychology article you read that has made ur opinions so strong. These articles are often misleading as these are partially researched and partially observed. These are often biased.
First things first:you want to get world class in today's date?you don't need to do any insane stuff. Just practice right and get used to competion environments.
How does Kyle santuci manage to pull off sub wrs at home but not at comps?cubing academies in china are significantly different from how we,the people who learn from yt think. Yiheng is taught pretty insane stuff like 1 looking solves(at least near 1 looking)just for practice and his tps is specifically trained. Every aspect of his solve is trained extensively as he has coaches and guidance. We aren't remotely near that level of guidance/teaching.so it's pretty wrong to make assumptions.
As for the psychological part, the fact is:it's psychological. If you believe In such stuff(which I don't) there are people who specifically bring back that "child mentality" just to learn skills like languages as you said but that's weird stuff. You don't NEED to be doing that for cubing and to get world class. Just train extensively and become better than yiheng! No one will know this better than you, a reconstructor tat yiheng solves aren't so efficient after all. Even tymon has space for improvement. Yiheng also locks up often. Watch Dylan millers video where he explains the things that yiheng is prolly missing. And tho kids have their own advantages, it doesn't mean that we have disadvantages.
Even if you believe so, tell me how are so many blinders adults?how is sean dominating OH in teenage?how does the megaminx WR holder manages to do it?how was Zayn khanani dominating 2*2 before yiheng?how did tymon improve as a teen?
Believe it or not,there's no such thing as you are saying. Consider other skills.are only the people who learnt early able to become successful. Cubing isn't that much of a genius' game but people manage to adapt to learning at much higher ages. As the saying goes, age is just a number.
Old Cuber much...?
@@jasonhatfield3084 ?
Although there are fast people who are older, they all probably started very young. Also, in the future this will definitely be the case that you have to start young to get world class (for reasons already said; like spare time and learning ability)
Bro I have a gift for you if you comment I'll give you a special coupon i swear
STUCUBE is secretly a D1 pro/gets paid for/sponsored/protagonist/legend/best in da world/world class 69 second solver