Awesome video, I cant believe you thought I was skilled enough to be thinking about what solution was optimal for last 2 pairs in that pause though,... in all honesty I was just looking for the pair to do next😅😅😅 Either way I cooked, absolutely ate, got the fries back out the bag and nommed them right up;
The 1 in 241 million odds are the odds of those two specific individuals both getting a last layer skip on one specific solve, the odds of any 2 individuals getting a last layer skip are far higher, especially when the solutions are somewhat similar, the thing is that there is a last layer skip possible on every scramble, it is just most of the time the F2L required to produce it would not be optimal and it wouldn't be predictable anyway. But two very impressive solves nonetheless.
62 people competed in the second round of 3x3. so all 62 would have gotten this scramble. so the real chance is (62 choose 2) * (15551/15552)^60 * (1/15552)^2. which is still extremely unlikely, but instead its closer to 1/128000
@@jakerussell135 This implies that there are only 62 solutions, and that all 62 solutions performed were necessarily unique, neither of which is necessarily the case.
@@karanshome it doesn't imply that there are only 62 solutions. It's correctly calculated. It just assumes that the chance of a last layer skip is 1/15552, which according to the video is true.
@@STUCUBE Assuming the two events are independent, the chance that this happened in this particular solve in this particular round (with 62 competitors) would be 1 minus the chance of either 0 or 1 last layer skips happening. The chance of 0 last layer skips is (15551/15552)^62, and the chance of 1 last layer skip is 62 * (1/15552) * (15551/15552)^61. Calculating this gives a chance of about 1 in 128232. But we don't really care on which particular solve this happened, so the chance that this happened in this particular round on any solve would be 1 minus the chance of it happening 0 times, which is about (128231/128232)^5. Calculating this we get that the chance of this happening in this particular round would be about 1 in 25647. I suspect that it is even more likely in reality, it seems likely to me that given the fact that there exists a "reasonable" F2L solution giving a last layer skip on some cross color on some scramble, that this would imply that the probability of there being a different "reasonable" F2L solution also giving a last layer skip on the same scramble on the same cross color is higher than the chance of any random scramble having a "reasonable" F2L solution giving a last layer skip. I have no way to prove this, but I suspect it's true because common moves in F2L usually preserve some blocks and orientations, or some other more complicated invariant which could potentially make the chance of seeing the same last layer case more likely. Calculating the exact probability is not feasible, since a "reasonable" F2L solution is not at all well defined, and depends on the solver.
@@STUCUBE yea hard to tell i would go with the 15000. id guess in real its even more likely. Even to see this independent at a few events seems kinda likely. Do you know the "birthday paradox". imagine there is a big event with 1000 solves. Its still unlikely but id guess 1/5000 or something. Im to lazy to look up the binomial. But you see that even this is much more likely than one in 241 Million
just considering that they are two people out of 62 people who competed in the second round, the chance is closer to 1/128000. but that's only for that specific scramble. if you apply it to all 5 scrambles in round 2, its closer to 1/25500. and if you expand it to the whole competition with all three rounds, it turns out to be around 1/8400
That's not really how probability works. The chances of 2 people getting a last layer skip in a competition in the same scramble is not only the chances of two last layer skips but, in fact, that times the number of participants and the number of scrambles done. I would estimate the probability is about 1/1000, still pretty rare, but not even close to 1/275000000. This has probably happened before. What's actually crazy is that both competitors were able to take these opportunities and turn them into sub 4 solves. Unfortunately, that probability is impossible to calculate
What you actually calculated is the probability of those exact two competitors getting the last layer skip, specifically in that one scramble, and it discounts all of other competitors and all of the other scrambles that were done in that same competition
There were 575 solves of the 3x3x3 at the event that I found. The chance of a LL skip is 1 in 15,552. The chance of any two (or more!) people getting an LL skip in that competition is 1 in 1,502. Additional info: The chance of two people getting LL skip is 1 in 1,520. Three people? 1 in 123,808. Finally, four people? 1 in 13,463,425.
thanks for this video!! i still can't believe all of this happened. can't speak to the probability of this but in a way, it doesn't matter, because however unlikely this was, it happened for real :D
Its crazy that i havent solved a cube in a few months and literally the only speedcubing channel that i watch is yours. You make this topic so entertaining that even non-cubers will find this entertaining
This is my favorite cubing story of the year. Getting a sub-4 out of the blue in the presence of two 3x3 World Champions has to be one of the best cubing dreams come true ever. PS: Not a fan of floccinaucinihilipilificationism.
Not sure if this works but if we use your assumptions on squaring last layer skip chances you also have to multiply the "number of competitors choose 2" which means 62 choose 2 = 1891 (So this is saying for any two people getting a last layer skip, this could be 30th and 59th person) But this assumes that any competitor there can get a last layer skip which may depend on their solution and 62 because thats how many people competed 3x3 2nd round So we have to multiply the last layer skip calculation with that We assume combinations without repetition too, i got 1 in 127903 as a result
If you were at that comp count yourself as one of the rarest people in the world, To be a cuber, in the uk, at that comp, while 1 in 24000000 chance solves happened
man this is just crazy, also we cant leave the good work he makes, loved the video, and especially those solves where its *exactly* 2 seconds from their previous pb, thanks for the great video!
Bro, watching the rise in production quality is awesome. I can understand the the effort/energy it takes to put such a video together so I really appreciate how clean this video is 🙏🔥
Although I agree that each of two solvers getting a LL skip on the same scramble is a very rare event, I don't agree with your odds calculation. For your calculation to be correct, the event for solver A has to be independent of the event for solver B. Since they have a scramble in common, they are not independent. There is a simple scenario where your calculation is correct, but the common scramble surely violates the assumption of independence.
just considering that they are two people out of 62 people who competed in the second round, the chance is closer to 1/128000. but that's only for that specific scramble. if you apply it to all 5 scrambles in round 2, its closer to 1/25500. and if you expand it to the whole competition with all three rounds, it turns out to be around 1/8400
you would need the independent probabilities that a given cuber finds that certain solve of the scramble to arrive at a final probability. unfortunately, it's impossible to measure the probability that person A does solve X, as opposed to solve Y, as too many confounding variables affect the situation after the first time solving. and what makes this even more trickier to measure is the infinite amount of scrambles that have a near zero probability of being executed (due to length), or the probability that one messes up the solving. tl;dr you need to factor in the participant's individual probabilities of coming up and executing the solves they did, which is impossible, so we can just say "yeah this was really crazy wtf, props to them"
The reaction describes it all, man cubing is can be so unpredictable haha, who would've thought there would be two different solutions for a last layer skip
People pointing out the odds aren’t that low but I think it would be interesting to see how many LL skips you can get doing different solutions with the same scramble
LITERALLY a Keaton Ellis & Lucas Etter moment, but in a fraction of the time difference between the two NRs occurring. Also, never a bad time to add a hate comment: I hate GAN cube (prices, I actually really love using them)... So get yours this week with Black Friday sales event (sorry for solicited advice and this is NOT an ad).
The whole room was electric after this 5 minute period of everyone realising what had happened. Being the Delegate in charge of verifying these scrambles was both the most exciting and nerve wracking moment of my whole cubing career.
The weirdest thing that ever happend to me when cubing was three PLL skips within 5 consecutive solves. (The probability is 1:864) Too bad nobody else witnessed it.
For the odds calculation, you can’t really square the odds of 1/15000, since it was not back to back LL skips but rather 2 LL skips among the 62 competitors from that round.
Okay this is already crazy enough but something else which is actuslly just insanely unlikely, to the point where we cant even come close to comprehending it, is that there were actually *twenty five* LL skip solutions actually crazy and theoretically if 25 of the people in that group found a didferent LL skip solution the chance would be 1 / 15552^25 which is actuslly crZzzyyyyyy (im aware that it technically wouldnt be 15552^25 cuz thats just not how probability works but shhhhh)
One time my friend got a LL Skip and got a 12 on OH, then later in the competition, the Colorado state record was set with a LL skip on a 4.75. And I thought 2 in a whole competition was crazy, let alone in the same round
By the way, you just squared 1/15552 to get the probability but there were more than those 2 people competing in that round for someone else to also have a chance at getting a LL skip
I doubt that a chance for two competitors getting LL skip is just square of such a single event. Chances are still ridiculously low but are being increased. They did same cross so they got same eo/co/ep/cp, they both rotated twice during f2l doing only RUDL moves what keeps edges oriented. What I want to say is that their choices on every substage pushed chances to be a little bit higher.
here comes the "well 1 in 241 million is the chance for this specifically to happen, but the chance for it to happen at the same competition is much smaller!" 🤓 ah comments
i got last layer skip and next solve pll skip in a row the thing is i did it at school and didnt record the time nor the scramble since its just a random moves which is a 1 in 1,119,744 chance.
Kinda reminds of the time in competition where i skipped getting a sub 12 single and got a 10 So my PR single went from 12.37 to 10.88 Than next solve I got a 10.70 and counted that 10.88 and both 10s were fullstep And made my PR average dropped from 14.90 to 12.21 which was Sub PR single going into that comp Which I was very happy about because on my last 2 comps I wasn't getting times in comps what I am averaging at home
Similar to my experience, i averaged around 14 seconds but got a 10.90 single on the first solve and a 10.94 on the 4th solve. Dropped my average to a low 13 average
Awesome video, I cant believe you thought I was skilled enough to be thinking about what solution was optimal for last 2 pairs in that pause though,... in all honesty I was just looking for the pair to do next😅😅😅 Either way I cooked, absolutely ate, got the fries back out the bag and nommed them right up;
@@AidanGrainger nommed thrm right up is cold af
funniest shi I read today
Bro went from “in all honesty” to “nommed them right up” lmao
@@SatyaGala-m9q i gotta use that term more now
@@LiamFernandez-uc4b real
While watching this video I got struck by an asteroid. I can guarantee I will not see another solve like this in my lifetime.
Are you going to eat the asteroid
@@Battleatkursk_gdHe needs to sanitise it first
@@lime-animates-2763don't use oil based soap.
hes rich now
The 1 in 241 million odds are the odds of those two specific individuals both getting a last layer skip on one specific solve, the odds of any 2 individuals getting a last layer skip are far higher, especially when the solutions are somewhat similar, the thing is that there is a last layer skip possible on every scramble, it is just most of the time the F2L required to produce it would not be optimal and it wouldn't be predictable anyway. But two very impressive solves nonetheless.
Yea theres this tool on speedcubedb that can find a ll skip in pretty much any scramble
r/beatmetoit for odds are far greater than 1 in 241 million, but still low enough to be an extreme case.
62 people competed in the second round of 3x3. so all 62 would have gotten this scramble. so the real chance is (62 choose 2) * (15551/15552)^60 * (1/15552)^2. which is still extremely unlikely, but instead its closer to 1/128000
@@jakerussell135 This implies that there are only 62 solutions, and that all 62 solutions performed were necessarily unique, neither of which is necessarily the case.
@@karanshome it doesn't imply that there are only 62 solutions. It's correctly calculated. It just assumes that the chance of a last layer skip is 1/15552, which according to the video is true.
bro doesn't understand the difference between independent and dependent probability
Title worked on us tho
Math ain't mathing
I’d say it’s still independent probability because they did entirely different solutions. Open to being wrong but 🤷♂️
@@STUCUBEnot that different solutions tbh
@@STUCUBE not how it works bro
The odds in the title (1 in 241 Million) are incorrect, because those two events are not independent, as they came from the same scramble.
So what are the odds then? I realized that it’s much lower (probably) as I said but what exactly would they be?
@@STUCUBEit’s impossible to determine because how many solutions give a last layer skip is random
But I don’t think it’s anywhere near 241 million
@@STUCUBE Assuming the two events are independent, the chance that this happened in this particular solve in this particular round (with 62 competitors) would be 1 minus the chance of either 0 or 1 last layer skips happening. The chance of 0 last layer skips is (15551/15552)^62, and the chance of 1 last layer skip is 62 * (1/15552) * (15551/15552)^61. Calculating this gives a chance of about 1 in 128232. But we don't really care on which particular solve this happened, so the chance that this happened in this particular round on any solve would be 1 minus the chance of it happening 0 times, which is about (128231/128232)^5. Calculating this we get that the chance of this happening in this particular round would be about 1 in 25647.
I suspect that it is even more likely in reality, it seems likely to me that given the fact that there exists a "reasonable" F2L solution giving a last layer skip on some cross color on some scramble, that this would imply that the probability of there being a different "reasonable" F2L solution also giving a last layer skip on the same scramble on the same cross color is higher than the chance of any random scramble having a "reasonable" F2L solution giving a last layer skip. I have no way to prove this, but I suspect it's true because common moves in F2L usually preserve some blocks and orientations, or some other more complicated invariant which could potentially make the chance of seeing the same last layer case more likely.
Calculating the exact probability is not feasible, since a "reasonable" F2L solution is not at all well defined, and depends on the solver.
@@STUCUBE yea hard to tell i would go with the 15000. id guess in real its even more likely.
Even to see this independent at a few events seems kinda likely. Do you know the "birthday paradox". imagine there is a big event with 1000 solves. Its still unlikely but id guess 1/5000 or something. Im to lazy to look up the binomial. But you see that even this is much more likely than one in 241 Million
just considering that they are two people out of 62 people who competed in the second round, the chance is closer to 1/128000. but that's only for that specific scramble. if you apply it to all 5 scrambles in round 2, its closer to 1/25500. and if you expand it to the whole competition with all three rounds, it turns out to be around 1/8400
That's not really how probability works. The chances of 2 people getting a last layer skip in a competition in the same scramble is not only the chances of two last layer skips but, in fact, that times the number of participants and the number of scrambles done. I would estimate the probability is about 1/1000, still pretty rare, but not even close to 1/275000000. This has probably happened before. What's actually crazy is that both competitors were able to take these opportunities and turn them into sub 4 solves. Unfortunately, that probability is impossible to calculate
What you actually calculated is the probability of those exact two competitors getting the last layer skip, specifically in that one scramble, and it discounts all of other competitors and all of the other scrambles that were done in that same competition
@@duvi9898 and does not account for them having similar solutions with similar permutations of pieces that make skips hundreds of times more likely
There were 575 solves of the 3x3x3 at the event that I found. The chance of a LL skip is 1 in 15,552.
The chance of any two (or more!) people getting an LL skip in that competition is 1 in 1,502.
Additional info:
The chance of two people getting LL skip is 1 in 1,520.
Three people? 1 in 123,808.
Finally, four people? 1 in 13,463,425.
@@asheep7797 Thanks for the numbers. I wanted to look them up but didn't know where to find them
thanks for this video!! i still can't believe all of this happened. can't speak to the probability of this but in a way, it doesn't matter, because however unlikely this was, it happened for real :D
Its crazy that i havent solved a cube in a few months and literally the only speedcubing channel that i watch is yours. You make this topic so entertaining that even non-cubers will find this entertaining
This is my favorite cubing story of the year. Getting a sub-4 out of the blue in the presence of two 3x3 World Champions has to be one of the best cubing dreams come true ever. PS: Not a fan of floccinaucinihilipilificationism.
SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS THE WORD OMG (you are officially my second favorite person now)
@@steeveeboy51 i know the word too (from now on)
thanks for calling me your third fav person
Such floccinaucinihilipilification my favorite word since 3rd grade
@@kerkare I always preferred pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis :)
@ it’s too known though
WOW the UK be popping of
this + FMC WR
Congrats to these guys
Credit to you for using Resonance as outro music
1:41 Any of the approximately 4 quadrillion Rubix Cube positions are solvable in 20 moves or less 😅
Aidan Grainger and Jake Brown my goats
Literally!
Not sure if this works but if we use your assumptions on squaring last layer skip chances you also have to multiply the "number of competitors choose 2" which means 62 choose 2 = 1891 (So this is saying for any two people getting a last layer skip, this could be 30th and 59th person)
But this assumes that any competitor there can get a last layer skip which may depend on their solution
and 62 because thats how many people competed 3x3 2nd round
So we have to multiply the last layer skip calculation with that
We assume combinations without repetition too, i got 1 in 127903 as a result
Bro your editing and storytelling is soo good I can’t believe the high quality sometimes! You deserve so many more subs!🎉
If you were at that comp count yourself as one of the rarest people in the world,
To be a cuber, in the uk, at that comp, while 1 in 24000000 chance solves happened
Even more rare is to be taking a fat dump while reading this comment
@ lol
4:45 you can do a wide U exept for D and if you does the same solution he will have to do only one rotation and the solve will be the same.
when you click the video less than 22 seconds after upload
New STUCUBE video, W!
man this is just crazy, also we cant leave the good work he makes, loved the video, and especially those solves where its *exactly* 2 seconds from their previous pb, thanks for the great video!
I really appreciate it stucuber. Thanks for showing me something that would never happen again in my life
This competition is the main character
Lol I remember you mentioning FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION on Dylan Millers stream. Great video btw!
I never would have thought I could get goosebumps while watching someone solve a Rubik’s cube haha 😂
Bro, watching the rise in production quality is awesome. I can understand the the effort/energy it takes to put such a video together so I really appreciate how clean this video is 🙏🔥
i meann the odds are very misleading because yk specific permutation stuff about the scramble lmao but nice vid
I’m interested in what the actual odds are bc people keep talking about how they were boosted but I can’t find anything that actually proves that
1:27 as a clear-up, Mats's 4.74 WR was a deliberate VLS, you can tell if you look at the reconstruction
Guiness world record for worlds most attracting titles😂
I downsolved it with Aidan's solution at 2.87!
Although I agree that each of two solvers getting a LL skip on the same scramble is a very rare event, I don't agree with your odds calculation. For your calculation to be correct, the event for solver A has to be independent of the event for solver B. Since they have a scramble in common, they are not independent. There is a simple scenario where your calculation is correct, but the common scramble surely violates the assumption of independence.
I was thinking the same thing
just considering that they are two people out of 62 people who competed in the second round, the chance is closer to 1/128000. but that's only for that specific scramble. if you apply it to all 5 scrambles in round 2, its closer to 1/25500. and if you expand it to the whole competition with all three rounds, it turns out to be around 1/8400
the description gets me every time
your solve breakdowns and the stats are the best.
you would need the independent probabilities that a given cuber finds that certain solve of the scramble to arrive at a final probability. unfortunately, it's impossible to measure the probability that person A does solve X, as opposed to solve Y, as too many confounding variables affect the situation after the first time solving. and what makes this even more trickier to measure is the infinite amount of scrambles that have a near zero probability of being executed (due to length), or the probability that one messes up the solving.
tl;dr you need to factor in the participant's individual probabilities of coming up and executing the solves they did, which is impossible, so we can just say "yeah this was really crazy wtf, props to them"
putting resonance as the ending song is pure beautiful
I was at a comp in Ireland when this happened I was scrambling and the delegates came over and told us what just happened
People who are slower than a 6 year old
The reaction describes it all, man cubing is can be so unpredictable haha, who would've thought there would be two different solutions for a last layer skip
People pointing out the odds aren’t that low but I think it would be interesting to see how many LL skips you can get doing different solutions with the same scramble
1:20 how you got that rankings??!?
Inspect element
@STUCUBE omg that's so smart
Broooo. What are the odds that my math module right now is about probability and odds🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
14,5 tps for a 29 moves solution is 2 seconds flat, which means theoretically a sub 2 solve is also doable 0_0 ( like a 1.99)
love the vid, keep it up
so in an alternate universe we were crushed by an asteroid
british yusheng
Waterboy???
@@CubingForEveryone yooo
@@WaterboyCuberyoo
LITERALLY a Keaton Ellis & Lucas Etter moment, but in a fraction of the time difference between the two NRs occurring.
Also, never a bad time to add a hate comment:
I hate GAN cube (prices, I actually really love using them)...
So get yours this week with Black Friday sales event (sorry for solicited advice and this is NOT an ad).
Both improved their pr by 2.00 seconds ☠️
*Cuts 3x3 PB in half*… light work
Wait, this is neither a video about Yiheng nor was he mentioned 😮What were the odds of that?
The fact I was a witness of this in real life and knew STUCUBE would make a video on this 😂😂😂
This is why I love cubing
same here
the fact that they both broke their pr singles by exactly 2 seconds is insane
The whole room was electric after this 5 minute period of everyone realising what had happened. Being the Delegate in charge of verifying these scrambles was both the most exciting and nerve wracking moment of my whole cubing career.
The weirdest thing that ever happend to me when cubing was three PLL skips within 5 consecutive solves. (The probability is 1:864)
Too bad nobody else witnessed it.
No way Stu introduced Feliks as a two time world champ as if there was a single person watching who didn’t already know him
very nice analisys...regards from Costa Rica
For the odds calculation, you can’t really square the odds of 1/15000, since it was not back to back LL skips but rather 2 LL skips among the 62 competitors from that round.
Okay this is already crazy enough but something else which is actuslly just insanely unlikely, to the point where we cant even come close to comprehending it, is that there were actually *twenty five* LL skip solutions
actually crazy and theoretically if 25 of the people in that group found a didferent LL skip solution the chance would be 1 / 15552^25 which is actuslly crZzzyyyyyy (im aware that it technically wouldnt be 15552^25 cuz thats just not how probability works but shhhhh)
Wdym there were 25 LL skip solutions?
There were 25 different solutions to
solve f2l that wouldve given a last layer skip
@@SatyaGala-m9q There are infinite solutions that give last layer skips on every scramble...
bruh i meant reasonable and findable solutions
@@SatyaGala-m9q What's the source on there being 25 haha? Just seems like a really specific number
One time my friend got a LL Skip and got a 12 on OH, then later in the competition, the Colorado state record was set with a LL skip on a 4.75. And I thought 2 in a whole competition was crazy, let alone in the same round
3:36 huh, crazy how you decide to multiply these two completely unrelated probabilities, that happened on different days.
they ought to have played the lottery that day
The scream 💀
Nice video, keep it up!
Am not a colour neutral, but I wanna try colour neutral scrambles. How do I scramble for each colour when I'm doing only white cross?
Put whatever color you want to solve on in white’s place
I love that the cubing community is so stringent that you could have titled this 1 in 242 million... but you chose to round down out of respect.
The 3x3 record might go below 1s.
The only record tht looks untouchable in all sporting events,is Usain Bolt's 9.58s.
1 in 241 million prob of having nails done on man
Nice nail polish 💅🏼
By the way, you just squared 1/15552 to get the probability but there were more than those 2 people competing in that round for someone else to also have a chance at getting a LL skip
Where did you get that cool cube graphic you used for the cube solving?
I made it in blender
Dude that’s really impressive!
"Floccinaucinihilipilification" user representation!
that’s so crazy
w video as always ❤
THE GOATSSSSS
Max Park's WR is in Jeopardy right now
Uk goated fr
I doubt that a chance for two competitors getting LL skip is just square of such a single event. Chances are still ridiculously low but are being increased. They did same cross so they got same eo/co/ep/cp, they both rotated twice during f2l doing only RUDL moves what keeps edges oriented. What I want to say is that their choices on every substage pushed chances to be a little bit higher.
Them: less than 4s
Me: 30mins thennnnn give up 😂
Love this channel
"It's not a crime to get lucky" 🤣😂
20 seconds ago!
Another guy called mrcube made a vid about this, but this is better. Well done!
Thats actually crazy 🤯
I've been back into cubing for a bit over 7 months and not ONCE have I gotten a LL skip lmao
3:37
Ever seeing it again, or ever experiencing it?
UK COMP GOATED
very skibidi, very rizzy
here comes the "well 1 in 241 million is the chance for this specifically to happen, but the chance for it to happen at the same competition is much smaller!" 🤓 ah comments
i got last layer skip and next solve pll skip in a row
the thing is i did it at school and didnt record the time nor the scramble since its just a random moves
which is a 1 in 1,119,744 chance.
i subbed after checking your math :)
Under 1 hour gan
Craziness!
I was there and it was nuts
If YiHeng was here doing this scramble...
bro im a uk cuber and i did the scramble before the breakdown and got a sub 4 i WISH i was at that comp 😭😭😭
Bro I went to a comp with this dude and saw him solve for him to get a sub 4 is crazy
I watched the vid of the 3.69 and knew the that it had low probably but I had no idea what just went down
feliks sub 3 wr single could have been real
unfortunate that he picked the wrong cross color
dam bro rolled impeached raw
Give that scramble to any finalist from Asian Championship and there's your unbeatable wr
Kinda reminds of the time in competition where i skipped getting a sub 12 single and got a 10
So my PR single went from 12.37 to 10.88
Than next solve I got a 10.70 and counted that 10.88 and both 10s were fullstep
And made my PR average dropped from 14.90 to 12.21 which was Sub PR single going into that comp
Which I was very happy about because on my last 2 comps I wasn't getting times in comps what I am averaging at home
Similar to my experience, i averaged around 14 seconds but got a 10.90 single on the first solve and a 10.94 on the 4th solve. Dropped my average to a low 13 average