I share that wish also, Lil' Wyvern. I learned an interesting thing regaurding that recently. I watching some video where this guy got into the unused data of places. One of them was of a damaged Dirk's house. He had some thories that this would mean that if Namco had used this it would have one of several possible effects; all of which would allow Kratos time to heal. He even mentioned something about a nineth character slot that was put in but unused.
"You can call me whatever you like, but it´s not gonna change... are you ready?" Just epic! :D Although I never made him a villian as well, because he´s my favourite character of all.
The music here is so fitting for the personality that Zealos gives the impression of having below the jokes and the title of the chosen that he hides under.
In the Flanoir Event, When the most Attached People Knocks Lloyd's room door, refuse all 3 People and in the 4th Person will be Kratos, then you will fight Zelos, then Kratos will join you after you obtain the Material Blade.
To fight Zelos: In flanoir scene, reject all 3 allies who knocks the door in Lloyd's room then you will talk to Kratos, then Zelos will fight you. when you go to the Tower of Salvation.
Sure. Every time you get an option of saying something (You'll have like two options.) Say whatever you think will make whoever you want happy, and whatever you think will make other people dislike you. Also there are these skit circle things accross the world, they increase affection. Lastly, whenever you split in two pick whoever you want.
Or, for this one specifically when you're in Flanoir, and someone, probably Collette, will ask you to go walk with her, reject her, and reject the other two that will ask you. Then, no one will come in, you'll leave, and see Kratos. When you leave town Zelos runs away, then you fight him at the Tower of Salvation.
Well then you are pretty good, I had no problems with 1/2 EXP or on mania mode alone, but I find it pretty hard with both of them. But I like that, finally it's not too easy anymore xD
After Altessa Jumps infront of Tabitha to save her and he gets sick you go to Floinor and then theres a CS 3 people will come Knocking at your Room in the Inn Reject them all then there'll be a CS with Kratos something like that
i remember when I got this scene the first time. And after it ended, I was like "Oh my god...ZELOS IS DEAD! THERE IS A GOD!" My opinion of Zelos isn't very high....Great battle though.
@TheYellowQilin Yes it makes no sense. If you talk to anyone but Kratos he decides to go with Pronyma but if you talk to Kratos he decides to stay behind and fight 6 on 1? A guy who wants a "fun easy life" commits suicide by fighting an outnumbered battle. He's a lot smarter than that and just seems out of character. But oh well, the way I saw it Zelos is a love/hate character. It gave a way to those that hate him a way to kill him off. Ive seen comments people talking how they like to kill him.
now you got it. if theres 3 s-type abilites on Genius, he well turn to an s-type faster then if he had only 2. if he has to of each, he well stay where he's at.
That's a pretty good amount of strength for Lloyd at that level. Were you using the Berserker title the whole time? I got to this point at level 65 with 412 strength using that title.
You need to save your Unison Attacks for when he casts. The more you bust him up without getting hit, the more grade you get. Unison attacks should be used during Over Limit and dangerous casts like Judgment.
You should try and get Zelos' cutscene, though. His is really good, and it really makes you like his character more, because it explains what his life is really like, and how he despises being the chosen.
@up4anything19 You fight Zelos if you chose to talk to Kratos in Flanoir, but later on Zelos ask Lloyd if he trusts him. If you choose that you do, then you fight him AND get to keep him in your party.
Okie. You know how you go to Flanoir before Zelos betrays you? Well you get a chance to talk to people. If you talk to the first three people in the party then it will end up that you don't fight Zelos and he comes back. But if you skip the three people and talk to Kratos, then you get to fight Zelos and Kratos comes back to join the party.
You only get the 3 that like you the best, and if you reject all three than you get Kratos. What I did was be a total ass to everyone but the people that I wanted to get for my ending. (Well, only the third one, first time I just went with Collette, second time I skipped her and Sheena was there. Then I learned about how it works, and got Zelos.)
I'm pretty sure I didn't play this route my first time through the game. So when I played it again for the second time last week I was shocked. I didn't want Zelos to die, he was one of my main 4.
Man I was SOOO happy when this happened. I hated Zelos for replacing Kratos. So when this whole Zelos betrayal thing happened we were so happy XD. We went all out all right lol.
An easier way of saying, if you obtain ANYONE ELSE BUT KRATOS IN FLANOIR, you'll fight some angels. (I keep forgetting the name >_>). If you obtain Kratos, however, you'll fight Zelos :P
Because plain and simple: Kratos has better stats, attacks, and ability than Zelos and also because people find Zelos obnoxious. I do as well. I prefer Kratos, because Kratos is badass.
not that u just have to talk to kratos in flanoir, that helps, but overall kratos have to be your "soul mate" a.k.a. he has to be at the top of ur affection list-thingie
my life was a mistake...terrible thing. Zelos is not my favourite character but he's make me sad when he's dead. I didn't understand him before to have in my ending team. He's more complex that we believe. Forgive me Zelos é_è
Max out affection with Kratos, reject everyone at Flanoir. You get Kratos instead of Zelos . . . the sucky part is that Zelos is technically a better character, and he is just totally cut out of the storyline at the end, which I didn't like . . . missed seeing him in the end-of-game portrait. First time I got Kratos, I was wondering, "Wait, what the heck? Zelos got wings? Oooh, badass fight . . . I'm going to enjoy this."
@kingudamuXD shadowkirby did the twist in the game the true story is that zelos lives since as you can tell to zelos is alive in DotnW but anyway shadow did the twist in the game where you get kratos instead of zelos re-joining you and the only way to get that is by denying everybody you talk to in flanoir besides kratos and boom when you go to the tower of salvation you fight zelos instead of the easy angel boss fight =)
Whaaaat!? You did 8 playthroughs with just the Collette ending? I've done three... Sheena, Collette, and Zelos (Zelos being my best person.) Also, I saved before that and picked Kratos, just to see this scene.
lol lets see whho recognizes this..." Im so gonna make you BLAH BLAH BLAH Tidal Wave!" well if Genis could do tht with his spells(or raine if anything) i would b more thn happy XD
Yes, he is.... ;-; Terrible, isn't it...I don't mean I'm angry at the ones who pick Kratos over Zelos, I just make an effort to always get Zelos back in my party because I don't want to kill the poor guy. I like him a lot. Luckily (or unluckily if people don't like him) in the sequel it has the ending of Symphonia where he lived. I was relieved ^^ Whether people say he's annoying or not I just like him. He's a good person (even though it's a just a game).
I share that wish also, Lil' Wyvern. I learned an interesting thing regaurding that recently.
I watching some video where this guy got into the unused data of places. One of them was of a damaged Dirk's house. He had some thories that this would mean that if Namco had used this it would have one of several possible effects; all of which would allow Kratos time to heal.
He even mentioned something about a nineth character slot that was put in but unused.
"You can call me whatever you like, but it´s not gonna change... are you ready?"
Just epic! :D
Although I never made him a villian as well, because he´s my favourite character of all.
This battle always gives me chills...
Zelos is just an awesome character
The music here is so fitting for the personality that Zealos gives the impression of having below the jokes and the title of the chosen that he hides under.
The way Zelos dances during battle makes me love him.
Oh gosh. Jade is simply too awesome for words. Though I can't say much since I've only played ToS and TotA.
zelos was such an interesting character as well, he had so much going for him
whoa ur like the best player i have seen using omega temptest and then rising falcon b4 u land i haven't even thought of that
"watch our for the spell!" classic :)
*Zelos looks at Lloyd and thrusts his hands forward* "You're pretty good..." *dies
In the Flanoir Event, When the most Attached People Knocks Lloyd's room door, refuse all 3 People and in the 4th Person will be Kratos, then you will fight Zelos, then Kratos will join you after you obtain the Material Blade.
I love Zelos Laugh :P
I think its good when genis says
"You take me on with magic"
To fight Zelos: In flanoir scene, reject all 3 allies who knocks the door in Lloyd's room then you will talk to Kratos, then Zelos will fight you. when you go to the Tower of Salvation.
Sure. Every time you get an option of saying something (You'll have like two options.) Say whatever you think will make whoever you want happy, and whatever you think will make other people dislike you. Also there are these skit circle things accross the world, they increase affection. Lastly, whenever you split in two pick whoever you want.
@khanime13 No problem. I heard that if Kratos relationship is higher than Zelos that decides whether this battle takes place or not.
I've never made Zelos a villian in any of my gazillion playthroughs. I just love the guy too much :)
this battle, is the reason while zelos its on the top 3 favorite symphonia characters
I was so shocked at this part... my jaw was dropped for this whole scene.
Love the way you combo
Lloyd:not a chance! thats my fav
the sequel confirms that picking zelos was how the story goes anyways since he's alive.
"Might as well 'go all out' right?"
For some reason, Zelos annoyed me through the whole game, yet I was reluctant to battle him.
Or, for this one specifically when you're in Flanoir, and someone, probably Collette, will ask you to go walk with her, reject her, and reject the other two that will ask you. Then, no one will come in, you'll leave, and see Kratos. When you leave town Zelos runs away, then you fight him at the Tower of Salvation.
good job beating him, lol I was like at lvl 40 when I fought him XD
terrific fight. 5/5 stars and add to favs. ^_^
Well then you are pretty good, I had no problems with 1/2 EXP or on mania mode alone, but I find it pretty hard with both of them. But I like that, finally it's not too easy anymore xD
Thanks =)
I never get to fight Zelos, but now that I know how to, I'll be sure to toss him a beatingXD
Don't worry, we'll make Genius smack monsters for no reason, IT'S A BRILLIANT PLAN!
Thank you :)
I love Zelos's VOICE
i sooo agree with you the first time i fought him i felt like crying but i didn't because zelos is a hell of a lot better than kratos.
After Altessa Jumps infront of Tabitha to save her and he gets sick you go to Floinor and then theres a CS 3 people will come Knocking at your Room in the Inn Reject them all then there'll be a CS with Kratos something like that
i remember when I got this scene the first time. And after it ended, I was like "Oh my god...ZELOS IS DEAD! THERE IS A GOD!"
My opinion of Zelos isn't very high....Great battle though.
When you meet certain criteria, you'll fight Zelos instead of Kratos, He "turns evil" because he sides with whoever is strongest.
@TheYellowQilin Yes it makes no sense. If you talk to anyone but Kratos he decides to go with Pronyma but if you talk to Kratos he decides to stay behind and fight 6 on 1? A guy who wants a "fun easy life" commits suicide by fighting an outnumbered battle. He's a lot smarter than that and just seems out of character. But oh well, the way I saw it Zelos is a love/hate character. It gave a way to those that hate him a way to kill him off. Ive seen comments people talking how they like to kill him.
now you got it. if theres 3 s-type abilites on Genius, he well turn to an s-type faster then if he had only 2. if he has to of each, he well stay where he's at.
@arrieta96
awesome! thank you,
@Dsurvivor21stCentury
right!
i noticed it now as well=)
ITS OVER 9000!!!1!!11!1!!
That's a pretty good amount of strength for Lloyd at that level. Were you using the Berserker title the whole time? I got to this point at level 65 with 412 strength using that title.
You need to save your Unison Attacks for when he casts. The more you bust him up without getting hit, the more grade you get.
Unison attacks should be used during Over Limit and dangerous casts like Judgment.
You should try and get Zelos' cutscene, though. His is really good, and it really makes you like his character more, because it explains what his life is really like, and how he despises being the chosen.
@up4anything19 You fight Zelos if you chose to talk to Kratos in Flanoir, but later on Zelos ask Lloyd if he trusts him. If you choose that you do, then you fight him AND get to keep him in your party.
When I do this battle:
First : I cry ( WHY ZELOS!! )
Second : Reaction to Jugment ( What the f***! You didn't got this with me! )
You can fight the Sword Dancer in the iselia Forest once you get out of Tethealla's Tower of Salvation the 1st time.
Okie. You know how you go to Flanoir before Zelos betrays you? Well you get a chance to talk to people. If you talk to the first three people in the party then it will end up that you don't fight Zelos and he comes back. But if you skip the three people and talk to Kratos, then you get to fight Zelos and Kratos comes back to join the party.
Mania mode: Enemies' Hp is doubled and are much harder. Some bosses' attacks change though, like Mithos gaining Indignation Judgment.
Same here. He's got pretty fruity wings too.
You only get the 3 that like you the best, and if you reject all three than you get Kratos. What I did was be a total ass to everyone but the people that I wanted to get for my ending. (Well, only the third one, first time I just went with Collette, second time I skipped her and Sheena was there. Then I learned about how it works, and got Zelos.)
@XxEnrisuxX
you have to rebuild the city of luin and buy it there
@Vercent1 Actually, it's only if you agree to talk to Kratos in Flanoir that this scene will occur.
Sheena: Damned idiot.
For some reason I found that funny.
I'm pretty sure I didn't play this route my first time through the game. So when I played it again for the second time last week I was shocked. I didn't want Zelos to die, he was one of my main 4.
Man I was SOOO happy when this happened. I hated Zelos for replacing Kratos. So when this whole Zelos betrayal thing happened we were so happy XD. We went all out all right lol.
To Get this you have to Say no to the 3 people with the Highest Affection with Lloyd.
In Flanor after the Isela Human Ranch fight.
I got this ending once, because Zelos is my favorite character in ToS, and I just wanted to see it.
An easier way of saying, if you obtain ANYONE ELSE BUT KRATOS IN FLANOIR, you'll fight some angels. (I keep forgetting the name >_>). If you obtain Kratos, however, you'll fight Zelos :P
"Damn.... heh heh.."
ZELOSSSSSSSSS :( :( :(
Trust me man, I live in Europe, and I've definitely fought this battle, though not on Mania.
I use both S and T Type attacks, I change their Skill by Eqipping the S-Ring and T-Ring and Change their Add-Skills.
@Vercent1 I thought that, but i wasn't sure, thanks a lot :D
"Talk neon with magic?"
3:02 XD HOW HE FALLS
"thud"
O.o Did he just use a pineapple gel?? XD
I don't think I ever seen a boss use items...
im never going to pick kratos
zelos is just too awesome!
Because plain and simple: Kratos has better stats, attacks, and ability than Zelos and also because people find Zelos obnoxious. I do as well. I prefer Kratos, because Kratos is badass.
he says it like YOU'RE taking ME on with magic?
I think I get it now. With the S-Type Skills on Genius, it'll send him to S-Type more quickly...yes, I might be wrong.
@khanime13 I think you're confused....
As long as Lloyd talks to Kratos in Flanoir and gets the Locket from Kratos, the Zelos betrayal WILL happen.
The Manga is actually canon. And he doesn't die there, Kratos however joins Lloyds Party anyway.
really epic but where did you find the hammer of Presea and the broom of Rain ?
try making a video where you fight zelos with a maxed out strength raine dat can do 1000 per hit XD
not that u just have to talk to kratos in flanoir, that helps, but overall kratos have to be your "soul mate" a.k.a. he has to be at the top of ur affection list-thingie
hey what type r u S or T, and dud nice one good battle
my life was a mistake...terrible thing.
Zelos is not my favourite character but he's make me sad when he's dead. I didn't understand him before to have in my ending team. He's more complex that we believe. Forgive me Zelos é_è
Max out affection with Kratos, reject everyone at Flanoir. You get Kratos instead of Zelos . . . the sucky part is that Zelos is technically a better character, and he is just totally cut out of the storyline at the end, which I didn't like . . . missed seeing him in the end-of-game portrait.
First time I got Kratos, I was wondering, "Wait, what the heck? Zelos got wings? Oooh, badass fight . . . I'm going to enjoy this."
Yeah, really >_> I wouldn't call him an idiot-- I'd just cry. D:
no no light attacks actually do work since he used photon/holy lance which is light an that damaged him.
While it's not canon, I thought this was more powerful in with him dying and Kratos coming back.
Omega - unf!
You're taking me on with magic!?
@kingudamuXD shadowkirby did the twist in the game the true story is that zelos lives since as you can tell to zelos is alive in DotnW but anyway shadow did the twist in the game where you get kratos instead of zelos re-joining you and the only way to get that is by denying everybody you talk to in flanoir besides kratos and boom when you go to the tower of salvation you fight zelos instead of the easy angel boss fight =)
Whaaaat!? You did 8 playthroughs with just the Collette ending? I've done three... Sheena, Collette, and Zelos (Zelos being my best person.) Also, I saved before that and picked Kratos, just to see this scene.
Can you also do that with 1/2 EXP and on mania mode? I mean, those two together? It's pretty funny, some fights are damn hard then xD
@C1ydeArr0wny Thanks,I'll keep that in mind. :-)
i have a felling this guy's asain
I hated having to choose between Zelos and Kratos; they're both parred for my favourite character. :c
My favorite in the series is Jade, though. Jade>Zelos>Fog/Max>Harold>Luke... something like that...
yes with mania mode on the 2nd go around
Ha! I just realized Zelos is making fun of Lloyd because he always goes "Let's go all out" XD
@khanime13 np,np.
Training at the Field near Ymir Forest.
lol lets see whho recognizes this..." Im so gonna make you BLAH BLAH BLAH Tidal Wave!" well if Genis could do tht with his spells(or raine if anything) i would b more thn happy XD
However, Kratos' affection level has to be high enough, or he won't talk to Lloyd in Flanoir.
Well, Symphonia 2 made Zelos be still alive and kicking so yeah. He doesn't die.
She can, but it's a really high level tech.
Yes, he is.... ;-; Terrible, isn't it...I don't mean I'm angry at the ones who pick Kratos over Zelos, I just make an effort to always get Zelos back in my party because I don't want to kill the poor guy. I like him a lot.
Luckily (or unluckily if people don't like him) in the sequel it has the ending of Symphonia where he lived. I was relieved ^^
Whether people say he's annoying or not I just like him. He's a good person (even though it's a just a game).
Ah. I've played all of the english games, and 2 of the Japanese. Also, I got my parents to order me 5 more for my christmas present >_>