19:12 every once in a while I come back to this to listen to Gary’s call. I love how much Norm enjoys his question for Jim. God damn, gonna miss you Norm
That was the most genuine laugh I ever heard from Norm. You can tell that Norm really liked the guy cause he reminded him of his people back home. He even has that thick Canadian/northern Midwest accent)
In 2005 I was an intern at SNL... most writers kept to themselves and seldom interacted with us. However, on show nights, I would stand just outside Lorne's office and watch the show with Jim Downey. He was open, approachable, and loved to joke around. I recognized him from a few 90's sketches, but only later realized how influential he's been.
@@billbally4419 well that’s just it… I was just some kid interning there. Lorne’s assistants would stick me outside his office to sort of restock his beer/wine and pour glasses for VIP guests. Usually I was invisible to those high-profile types… but Jim Downey saw fit to chat with me for whatever reason. (I think because I’d made a reference to an old sketch he’d done ten years before). He made a point to remember my name, include me in conversations he was having with other writers, etc. They were little gestures that meant a lot to me… gestures few other staffers were generous enough to make.
He wrote the famous First CityWide Change Bank sketches and is in those too. I was so stoned the first time I saw those in 1991 and laughed so hard at its absurdity that I thought I had gone insane... th-cam.com/video/CXDxNCzUspM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/KodqIPMbyUg/w-d-xo.html
I love the "change" sketch Jim did. It was a sketch about a bank and he spent like two minutes talking about different combinations of change they could give out. F'ing hilarious.
This is probably the best chemistry I've ever seen from Norm. You can tell these two have an absolutely solid gold history, friendship and a profound respect for one another. Almost everything Norm says he's either baiting Jim, trying to derail him or sharing an in-joke and Jim's just ploughing on, trying to be professional and not laugh. Jus' two ol' lumps of coal with 1000 carat cores and a gold nugget of an interview for posterity.
At 30:56 Norm asks, "Who was the funniest guy ever on Saturday Night Live?" Downey eventually begins naming names... Norm finally says, "That's interesting you didn't mention a woman." Downey: "Oh, I thought you said 'the funniest guys'?" Norm: "No, I said 'the funniest performers.'"
Really dude? its a joke, you're watching a norm macdonald interview. If u don't see the humor in mr dashriprock's comment then you probably shouldn't be here.
I had a life, a house, cars, respect in the community, suddenly it was all taken away. I think I finally realized how low I sunk. One day I was at my daughters soccer game, she lives with her mom, when I was standing on the sidelines and a cop came up and asked me to move along. That's when it hit me, I'm not even a human be...
30:54 Norm asks who the funniest guy on SNL was, then traps him a minute later by saying he asked who the best performer. A good gag, and he had Downey stumbling over himself.
In a Loveline appearance a radio caller asks Norm where he gets his ideas from and Norm responds “how did you come up with that question? Same way, just thinking of stuff”
It's a true credit to Norm (though his fans already know this) that all of the significant Harvard Lampoon writers LOVE Norm. Jim, Steve O'Donnell, Conan....Funny people know funny. Norm is the best of the best.
Love your videos! Great to see you on all of these Norm videos, nice to know there's a small community of us starving for Norm content. What's your favorite podcast episode? Mine is the Andy Dick and Todd Glass interviews.
I'm not Norm I mean he’s known as a comedian’s comedian so it would make sense to refer to really funny people who’ve gone on record listing him as a favorite. Don’t simplify things, comedy can get complicated, especially when you’re dealing with norm or other Kauffman-esque comedians. A lot of the times the fact that the audience doesn’t understand IS the joke
I love how even the first 15 minutes of them bloviating about politics is practically a lame half arsed bit, because that's what the Dennis Miller crowd usually wants to hear
norms laugh when that caller asks what jims got going is the funniest part of this. must be fun being famous and having people ask you idiotic questions
I listened to this just because I'll listen to anything with Norm, but now I know that Jim Downey is the guy who did the hilarious Grayson Moorhead Securities commercial from SNL.
@@opaljk4835 "That's interesting you didn't mention a woman." Downey: "Oh, I thought you said 'the funniest guys'?" Norm: "No, I said 'the funniest performers.'" He knows they're not any good in comparison to guys, but that's not funny. So uh Double standard? HAHA you must be out of your mind.
“...he has a question I’ve always wanted to know about!” “yea, hey Jim, I am really curious & have always wondered... where do you get your ideas from?”
Norm is such a troll. But his friends get it, as you can tell with the way Jim handles the interview, anyone else would think norms being a rude interviewer but his friends know that hes just joshin em :)
Hard to believe Downeey when he says the heavy drug use stopped in season 3. Garrett Morris, Laraine Newman, and Belushi all had bad drug problems throughout their time on the show, which the living ones admit to.
I adore Norm on tv and in movies but would love him to do more radio. Love his intelligence, voice and sleepy/mellow quality. Also when he's in his super-sleepy-Xanax mode, he gives major ASMR tingles. Norm rules.
I'd say Jim Downey's commentary about Hillary Clinton's failure to take Obama seriously (at around 11:00) both is correct and eerily foreshadows her fate as a candidate against Donald Trump in 2016. Weird--but not surprising given that Jim Downey is an astute observer and analyst of lots of stuff in my experience. Anyway, like a lot of people I'm watching this because I'm missing Norm MacDonald, and also because TH-cam apparently knows that about me and keeps shoving his stuff down my throat. To my great delight, I might add.
D WMS stern has said more than once that norm told him he pees in bottles at home, but norm always kind of ignores it or does his "whaaaaaat?" until stern moves on
Jim: “Pat was a man. Anyone who watched the show can very clearly see that…” Norm: “Oh, because Farley said it was a woman…” Jim: “Yup, she could be. I can see that. Maybe…” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Posting below made me recall the beautiful, classy, hysterical Marilyn Suzanne Miller - who taught comedy-writing around NYC for those lucky-enough to get in. (Monday night 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. - the great Joe Minion a few seats away). .
Marilyn being the former Head Writer of SNL - a real hottie from the Midwest - I think Marilyn was working for Kresge's when she decided she'd become a comedy writer. Kresge's.!!!
@@APOLLO-dy8rc sorry for my ignorance but it was only half ignorant as I also want to hear him pronounce Arabic names. I could listen to him trying to pronounce Farsi or Arabic names all day
Jim Downey.... the second most important person behind SNL, according to Dennis Miller. He served as writer for 32 years on SNL... brother of Robert Downey Jr. and a HARVARD GRAD. Not bad for someone who isn't easily recognizable!
Jim Downey is Robert Downey Jr.'s Paternal Half Uncle. Jr's Father was Born Robert Elias. His father died, then his mother married someone by the name of Downey. Who adopted Robert Elias, changing his name to Robert Downey. They had Jim Downey a few years later.
If Jim Downey and Norm Macdonald started a podcast about American foreign policy. I would listen to that religiously. to be honest if they started a podcast talking about anything I would listen to it
"Best UPDATE in the history of Comedy, not just SNL." I get a little twinge because of my love/respect for the great Chevy Chase. Who just blew-up in front of our eyes - took over - cover of Tim, Newsweek - if he got any hotter he'd have exploded (taken about 100 people with im). -But Norm and Jim - yeah, something very very special - in fact Lightning. -Norm and Jim proved that LIGHTNING CAN STRIKE TWICE cuz they went-for-it-, went hard, hit hard - took no prisoners - and at the exact moment in time when Political Correctness STARTED. In fact Norm MacDonald was (pc's) it's very first VICTIM. But it just made Norm greater. not richer maybe - but Norm's about Truth not Legal Tender. .God Bless Norm, Jim Downey and Chevy - (deep bows) .
Norm could've done this as a career a la Miller, Corolla, others. He was too funny to get a bs interview show going. Downey is his favorite person so he's into it here
I’m surprised Jim Downey placed Belushi in the “second tier” of talent. Anyone else surprised? ..or have I been overrating Belushi?... or underrating Ackroyd & Murray etc?
Occasionally, sane people work in TV. About as often as when the DB Cooper's bail out at 30,000 feet, but hey, it's better than nothing. Ebersole, what an ass. No wonder his wife dumped him!
The connection of whatever Trump would tweet and --- sorry, got distracted. Some pharma company finally hired an ATTRACTIVE (non-botoxed) lady for their Viagra TV ad. I got REALLY distracted. Four hours from now, I should be back to normal.
19:12 every once in a while I come back to this to listen to Gary’s call. I love how much Norm enjoys his question for Jim. God damn, gonna miss you Norm
That was the most genuine laugh I ever heard from Norm. You can tell that Norm really liked the guy cause he reminded him of his people back home. He even has that thick Canadian/northern Midwest accent)
That caller was delightful and I completely agree with the laugh 😊
“If you’re gonna do four in a row, you’re not gonna have much time for pokin around the fire” oh Normie
What did he mean?
I do the exact same thing!!
In 2005 I was an intern at SNL... most writers kept to themselves and seldom interacted with us. However, on show nights, I would stand just outside Lorne's office and watch the show with Jim Downey. He was open, approachable, and loved to joke around. I recognized him from a few 90's sketches, but only later realized how influential he's been.
th-cam.com/video/KodqIPMbyUg/w-d-xo.html
That’s awesome. Thanks for sharing
Who are u
That's very cool.
@@billbally4419 well that’s just it… I was just some kid interning there. Lorne’s assistants would stick me outside his office to sort of restock his beer/wine and pour glasses for VIP guests. Usually I was invisible to those high-profile types… but Jim Downey saw fit to chat with me for whatever reason. (I think because I’d made a reference to an old sketch he’d done ten years before). He made a point to remember my name, include me in conversations he was having with other writers, etc. They were little gestures that meant a lot to me… gestures few other staffers were generous enough to make.
Had no idea Jim Downey was the "I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul" guy from Billy Madison.
also, one of the bums in Dirty work
I knew that. I totally knew that. Jim Downey rocks.
He’s also in There Will Be Blood. :)
RIP NORM
He wrote the famous First CityWide Change Bank sketches and is in those too. I was so stoned the first time I saw those in 1991 and laughed so hard at its absurdity that I thought I had gone insane... th-cam.com/video/CXDxNCzUspM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/KodqIPMbyUg/w-d-xo.html
@@lordmonty9421 okay, easy fella.
I wish I could have called in to ask Jim where he gets his ideas from 😂😂😂
“What’ve you got poking in the fire?” is the next best question 😂
😂
I love the "change" sketch Jim did. It was a sketch about a bank and he spent like two minutes talking about different combinations of change they could give out. F'ing hilarious.
This is basically a precursor to Norm's podcast. So funny.
He's just a cursor now .......Letterman 25th July.....
@@mackhomie6he is now
“So Jim, whaddaya got poking around in the fire?”
That was pretty funny but a better question would have been to ask him where he gets his ideas from. To each his own, I suppose.
Ed McBoy “Ed McBoy” is fucking amazing
Yes, it is. Carl Reiner coined it during his Norm Macdonald Live episode. It's genius.
Sounds like something Norm would ask
Norm using his opportunity as guest host to troll his old friend and corner him into saying something sexist is so classic.
This is probably the best chemistry I've ever seen from Norm. You can tell these two have an absolutely solid gold history, friendship and a profound respect for one another. Almost everything Norm says he's either baiting Jim, trying to derail him or sharing an in-joke and Jim's just ploughing on, trying to be professional and not laugh. Jus' two ol' lumps of coal with 1000 carat cores and a gold nugget of an interview for posterity.
It's a pity Jim doesn't do more acting himself. His Dead Pan delivery is excellent
th-cam.com/video/KodqIPMbyUg/w-d-xo.html
Seriously. His bit part in Billy Madison features some of the best deadpan comic delivery I’ve ever seen.
At 30:56 Norm asks, "Who was the funniest guy ever on Saturday Night Live?"
Downey eventually begins naming names...
Norm finally says, "That's interesting you didn't mention a woman."
Downey: "Oh, I thought you said 'the funniest guys'?"
Norm: "No, I said 'the funniest performers.'"
point?
david wood it's sorta funny
Really dude? its a joke, you're watching a norm macdonald interview. If u don't see the humor in mr dashriprock's comment then you probably shouldn't be here.
david w Is that supposed to be a takeoff from the joke or are you really that stupid?
He's a provocateur
This is great. 2 geniuses having a conversation.
Real meeting of the the mindddd.
Are they good at math or something?
Yeah, there's a real stream of consciousness going on.
I had a life, a house, cars, respect in the community, suddenly it was all taken away. I think I finally realized how low I sunk. One day I was at my daughters soccer game, she lives with her mom, when I was standing on the sidelines and a cop came up and asked me to move along. That's when it hit me, I'm not even a human be...
Heres your two dollars!
So ahhh Jim, ahhh what do you got poking in the fire?? LOL!!!!!
I almost thought that was a planted call.
It was just too perfect lol...
Name five great women writers on Saturday Night Live...... Hey you want to take a call from Joel!
@Aramis3737 Great idea! I completely understand what you're referring to 24:45
30:54 Norm asks who the funniest guy on SNL was, then traps him a minute later by saying he asked who the best performer. A good gag, and he had Downey stumbling over himself.
Norm: name 5 great woman writers.
Downey: uhhhhhhh
And then does
19:59 is basically the origin of eget’s ‘where do you get your ideas from question
I wonder if that was a set up by Norm, a genuine question, or just a random funny guy
In a Loveline appearance a radio caller asks Norm where he gets his ideas from and Norm responds “how did you come up with that question? Same way, just thinking of stuff”
That guy who rang in on 19:25 is hilarious
Norm 100% set that up
“What you got pokin’ in the fire?”
@@pennystocklocks It sounds like it is a set up but I'm not sure. Think it could be genuine
A real meeting of the minds. Like for real. Miss you norm, love you Jim.
It's a true credit to Norm (though his fans already know this) that all of the significant Harvard Lampoon writers LOVE Norm. Jim, Steve O'Donnell, Conan....Funny people know funny. Norm is the best of the best.
Flanz Shirt You don't have to be from ivy league schools to know what's funny
Love your videos! Great to see you on all of these Norm videos, nice to know there's a small community of us starving for Norm content. What's your favorite podcast episode? Mine is the Andy Dick and Todd Glass interviews.
I'm not Norm I mean he’s known as a comedian’s comedian so it would make sense to refer to really funny people who’ve gone on record listing him as a favorite. Don’t simplify things, comedy can get complicated, especially when you’re dealing with norm or other Kauffman-esque comedians. A lot of the times the fact that the audience doesn’t understand IS the joke
@@ImnotNorm rare comment
Jim is apparently Robert Downey Jr.'s uncle.
Wow...Jim Downey knows his shit inside out.........
Until he starts praising Obama
@@Roggiedodgie Oh, you're like that.
I love how even the first 15 minutes of them bloviating about politics is practically a lame half arsed bit, because that's what the Dennis Miller crowd usually wants to hear
norms laugh when that caller asks what jims got going is the funniest part of this. must be fun being famous and having people ask you idiotic questions
I thought the caller did that as a joke, I hope so cos I thought it was hilarious
23:13 Norm pretending to praise Kristen Wiig "I saw her doing something on Update, I dunno what it was but she talked real fast? Man, she's good" lmao
Obama was such a great salesman Americans forgot the war was going on.
Jim May God Have Mercy On Your Soul Downey
I listened to this just because I'll listen to anything with Norm, but now I know that Jim Downey is the guy who did the hilarious Grayson Moorhead Securities commercial from SNL.
If My Wife Calls
The amount of jokes and sketches this guy has written over the years is probably staggering.
Here’s a fun fact that I just learned Jim Downey is Robert Downey Jr’s uncle.
haha yeah that guy who called was a real jerk
7:00 Norm already noticing in 2008 that 'fake news' had been co-opted
And calling out the female double standard
@@Roescoethe female double standard…which one?
@@opaljk4835
"That's interesting you didn't mention a woman."
Downey: "Oh, I thought you said 'the funniest guys'?"
Norm: "No, I said 'the funniest performers.'" He knows they're not any good in comparison to guys, but that's not funny.
So uh Double standard? HAHA you must be out of your mind.
@@Roescoe comparing woman to each other vs comparing guys to each other is a double standard?
Jim Downey worked with Norm at that duo also did the “Celebrity Jeopardy” skits. It was Norm and Jim who wrote all those.
It was Norm and Steve Higgins
“...he has a question I’ve always wanted to know about!”
“yea, hey Jim, I am really curious & have always wondered... where do you get your ideas from?”
Frank Stallone
Super Dave's response to this is so damn funny!
Norm is such a troll. But his friends get it, as you can tell with the way Jim handles the interview, anyone else would think norms being a rude interviewer but his friends know that hes just joshin em :)
+quiet1234
My name is Josh and FUCK YOU!
They are friends and writing geniuses. The whole show is a gag, and on fire.
Hard to believe Downeey when he says the heavy drug use stopped in season 3. Garrett Morris, Laraine Newman, and Belushi all had bad drug problems throughout their time on the show, which the living ones admit to.
Thought the same thing. It seemed to end more like after 4/5 years. Lorne Michaels started cracking down after Belushi got really out of control.
Bani Sadr alive, and currently lives in France; Ghotbzadeh, however was executed for conspiracy shortly after the revolution.
How could he not list Phil Hartman on the first tier?
I adore Norm on tv and in movies but would love him to do more radio. Love his intelligence, voice and sleepy/mellow quality. Also when he's in his super-sleepy-Xanax mode, he gives major ASMR tingles. Norm rules.
Jane Doe he gives major asmr tingles? what in the hell does that mean
Aha I was just typing that same question when I saw my own comment from two months ago
I would love him to do more radio also!!
"what you got pokin' in the fire?"
I really, really want to fix that image box around Downey so it’s lined up with Norm’s.
19:12 lol this guy
The guy's going to remember forever that he made Norm crack up! Not a small achievement for a common man calling on the radio!
They are like brothers
I'd say Jim Downey's commentary about Hillary Clinton's failure to take Obama seriously (at around 11:00) both is correct and eerily foreshadows her fate as a candidate against Donald Trump in 2016. Weird--but not surprising given that Jim Downey is an astute observer and analyst of lots of stuff in my experience.
Anyway, like a lot of people I'm watching this because I'm missing Norm MacDonald, and also because TH-cam apparently knows that about me and keeps shoving his stuff down my throat. To my great delight, I might add.
Norm is a genius. Crazy bat-shit peeing in jars kinda cra cra. I love him.
Peeing in jars LOL
D WMS stern has said more than once that norm told him he pees in bottles at home, but norm always kind of ignores it or does his "whaaaaaat?" until stern moves on
Good God why?
Jim: “Pat was a man. Anyone who watched the show can very clearly see that…”
Norm: “Oh, because Farley said it was a woman…”
Jim: “Yup, she could be. I can see that. Maybe…”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Real stream of consciousness
The call at about 19:10 was beautiful. If it was a set-up, it was impressive. (gotta be another comedian? a friend of norm's?)
Sounded like Chris Farley’s Brother ( Kevin Farley )
one the biggest laughs from Norm i've heard... so funny!
Great upload, this is what youtube is all about. Not some stupid vlog.
They still suck 7 years later 😁
I’m all cleared up on the Pat thing.. finally
Freed the hostages? That happened immediately once Reagan was elected.
Yeah his understanding of the whole thing is uh a little off base
Posting below made me recall the beautiful, classy, hysterical Marilyn Suzanne Miller - who taught
comedy-writing around NYC for those lucky-enough to get in. (Monday night 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. - the great
Joe Minion a few seats away).
.
Marilyn being the former Head Writer of SNL - a real hottie from the Midwest - I think Marilyn was
working for Kresge's when she decided she'd become a comedy writer. Kresge's.!!!
Kresge's being the Rite-Aid of its' time - though not a chain - very East Coast.
Norm is from Ottawa, he knows politics. He has a brother Neil who hosts The 5th Estate on CBC.
Now I am smarter for listening to this.
The Iran contra bit had me rolling so hard
Jim's prediction about Casey Wilson didn't quite pan out.
Ed McBoy A1 profile name
Is that because stalin was worse you wife fucking jew hater
I could watch/listen to a whole video of just norm trying to pronounce Arab names and words.
Those names weren't Arab, they were Iranian
@@APOLLO-dy8rc sorry for my ignorance but it was only half ignorant as I also want to hear him pronounce Arabic names. I could listen to him trying to pronounce Farsi or Arabic names all day
Prescient points re: Obama vs Hilary the first time (about 10 minutes in).
Downey's interpretation of Iran-Contra is completely nuts lol. Doesn't even mention the cocaine trafficking
After listening several times I can confirm that the caller at 20:00 is the great Sid Youngers
Gary from Saginaw has a lot of pokers in the fire
Jim Downey.... the second most important person behind SNL, according to Dennis Miller. He served as writer for 32 years on SNL... brother of Robert Downey Jr. and a HARVARD GRAD. Not bad for someone who isn't easily recognizable!
"brother of Robert Downey Jr." No.
@thebrazilianatlantis165 yeah, junior is not Jim's last name
Jim Downey is Robert Downey Jr.'s Paternal Half Uncle.
Jr's Father was Born Robert Elias. His father died, then his mother married someone by the name of Downey. Who adopted Robert Elias, changing his name to Robert Downey. They had Jim Downey a few years later.
Jan hooks was great.
Name Five great women writers 24:44
True interviewer. With out a desk...
If Jim Downey and Norm Macdonald started a podcast about American foreign policy. I would listen to that religiously.
to be honest if they started a podcast talking about anything I would listen to it
you think norm had people call in
"Best UPDATE in the history of Comedy, not just SNL."
I get a little twinge because of my love/respect for the great Chevy Chase.
Who just blew-up in front of our eyes - took over - cover of Tim, Newsweek - if he
got any hotter he'd have exploded (taken about 100 people with im).
-But Norm and Jim - yeah, something very very special - in fact Lightning.
-Norm and Jim proved that LIGHTNING CAN STRIKE TWICE
cuz they went-for-it-, went hard, hit hard - took no prisoners - and at the exact moment
in time when Political Correctness STARTED.
In fact Norm MacDonald was (pc's) it's very first VICTIM.
But it just made Norm greater.
not richer maybe - but Norm's about Truth not Legal Tender.
.God Bless Norm, Jim Downey and Chevy - (deep bows)
.
This is Robert Downey jrs uncle
best 'Update' ever...
TIL Jim Downey is Robert Downey Jr's uncle
20:00 Norm Losing It LoL...
I love this interview but i really hope jim downey knows how much Norm actually cares about him because hes kinda brutal with him haha
Here’s your two dollars!
What happened to Jim? Just saw him on Conan’s pod. Hard to believe it’s visibly him.
He was cursed with the side effects of a long period of time
I called the number but no one answered. 😢
Bani Sadre is alive, and lives in France Norm.
Norm could've done this as a career a la Miller, Corolla, others. He was too funny to get a bs interview show going. Downey is his favorite person so he's into it here
Satins instrument he hit that on the head it is
Norm does ask who's the funniest *guy* 30:55 then gaslights Jim for not answering with a woman
The real estate man.
'7.00, "Fake News"....If they only knew what it would mean in the Trump era
Agreed. I hate people do impressions of funny stuff. Impossible to find Christopher Walken Census and Cow bell.
Norm was a big fan of Bani-Sadr.
"Norm Macdonald was the funniest man to ever live" -people with a propensity to tell the truth
"no" -liars
Hey I hope you're not related to the Roberts Downeys
Well, he's their brother and uncle so
you have it backward
I’m surprised Jim Downey placed Belushi in the “second tier” of talent. Anyone else surprised? ..or have I been overrating Belushi?... or underrating Ackroyd & Murray etc?
He was ok.
32:20 Jim "I hate women" Downey
Pat…was a WOMAN
Who's with Norm?
that ended kinda awkwardly. i hope there was more radio show after where downey wasn't just put in a corner
“Fake News” will never catch on.
😊
anybody know what Jim Downey's IQ is?
104
Occasionally, sane people work in TV. About as often as when the DB Cooper's bail out at 30,000 feet, but hey, it's better than nothing. Ebersole, what an ass. No wonder his wife dumped him!
War Emblem this comment reads like a trump tweet. Bravo
The connection of whatever Trump would tweet and --- sorry, got distracted. Some pharma company finally hired an ATTRACTIVE (non-botoxed) lady for their Viagra TV ad. I got REALLY distracted. Four hours from now, I should be back to normal.
abolhassan banisadr wasn't executed. what kind of crap is this
I was shocked to learn Jim Downey is dull.
algorithm
one of the most disappointing interviews ive ever listened to. this guy has so many untapped stories
HOw you lovin Obama NOW? lol
Downey supports Obama cause “he’s a cool guy.” ... Downey sounds like a real smart guy.
well, he did attend Harvard which isn't exactly community college. Also, I'm sure he has other reasons why he liked Obama