Now we need to invent a time machine so you can go back in time, slap the guy who bent those pins while stuffing those two chips into place, and make him do it again BUT RIGHT THIS TIME.
@@CrystalMcNair A little time paradox that could destroy the space-time continuum is totally worth it to have one less person screwing up chip installs.
even the best techs slip up & those DIL socket pins were easy to bend if you weren't careful. Some IC sockets made it much easier but other sockets and crooked pins (because someone dropped the chip!) could cause it. Great fix there Ron!
@@projectpat006 I'm in the UK the only time I saw them was in Motorway services, and in the 90's they look so dated, if only I knew then what I know now.
If i ever learn to program games i am going to make a fixit ron arcade game. Just think about it. Repairing all the games in joe’s classic video games . Running trough the storage , and trying to evade broken pcb boards . And if you pick up bonus items like nes games you can use them as skates and fly . His weapon is an soldering iron that shoots solder blobs. Aaah men fixit ron the arcade game.... retro is the future men! I am telling you. ( or i have to much covid time at home)
Those EPROM chip legs do make a difference... probably kept the +5V or grnd from running the chip....surprised that it just showed failed pins on chip. But great Ron that you were able to bend the pins back without them breaking. Thanks for the video.
Could be worse, at least the pins were bent on _socketed_ ICs, not on factory installed chips soldered to the board! The problem only appeared when some of the optional extras were fitted, when then didn't work.
So much for my theory that it was sketchy repair work (incorrectly installed capacitors, bodge wires, etc.) Instead, it was basically just some "repairman" not paying attention to pin alignment when reinserting the ROM chips. But that was before Ron got his hands on it and got it working again.
@@LyonsArcade so why they even have radiators? It is pitty that Nintendo did not used those RGB PPUs in the home consoles! Sega did and theirs home consoles can display native RGB out from the box, even on Sega Mark 3/Master System!
Hey this is a weird question. Just out of curiosity, since I have no stake in video arcade games, I was wondering, it seems like you spend several if not 10s of hours to fix one game. How much per hour do you charge for labor? It seems like for an old retro game to pay for the labor and parts to fix it, it would be really expensive and not really worth it? Like a used car that's been totalled. Just curious, and I love what you do!
May be you can help. I have a VS. board with SMB on the right side aka unisystem mode. Boots fine but the image is very dim. My other boards are fine. It does have a Mike's adapter jamma board since I run everything through a super gun setup. Do you know why it could be so dim? At one point it was work fine then the next, issues. thanx
Was it working fine before on the Mike's adapter? Sometimes the video ground going out will make the screen immediately dark... the video ground is usually tied to the ground on the board, theoretically if you have a bad connection on that one ground the whole screen will still be there but be much darker. It looks like it has shadows on it if it loses the video ground...
@@LyonsArcade Yes it was working at one time. Low and behold it was the adapter. Swapped it out with a Pcbjunkie one and bright as can be. If there is a bad ground on the mike's adapter how do you test/fix. Also is there a way to fix the audio? The adapter really over drives the sound. Turning the Vol. Pot down does really nothing.
JOE's CLASSIC, what is the difference between a PPU chip and a PROM chip? the PPU chip has the video color palette code files loaded on it but also PROM chips have the video color palette code files loaded onto it, so I don't understand the differences between a PPU chip and PROM chip in arcade games
The PPU is the picture processing unit. Basically the GPU of its day. A PROM is just a memory storage device that cannot be written to after it is installed.
Played on this system this past weekend. Worked perfectly! Well done guys!
Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed it!
Now we need to invent a time machine so you can go back in time, slap the guy who bent those pins while stuffing those two chips into place, and make him do it again BUT RIGHT THIS TIME.
It's all good, mistakes happen :)
If he did that, then we might not have gotten this video fixing the device!
@@CrystalMcNair A little time paradox that could destroy the space-time continuum is totally worth it to have one less person screwing up chip installs.
Go ask Doc Brown to see if you can barrow his Time Machine.
even the best techs slip up & those DIL socket pins were easy to bend if you weren't careful.
Some IC sockets made it much easier but other sockets and crooked pins (because someone dropped the chip!) could cause it.
Great fix there Ron!
Seems like a lengthy fix. You guys must be damn good - you fix everything. 👍
Arcade junkie here. Grew up in them in the 80's. Not once have I run into a red tent. I WANT ONE!
Join the queue :) Had a chance to buy one for next to nothing in the 90's but too old for my shop at the time, what a disgrace I was.
They were in every Showbiz/Chuck E Cheese back in the 80s
@@projectpat006 I'm in the UK the only time I saw them was in Motorway services, and in the 90's they look so dated, if only I knew then what I know now.
@@projectpat006 Not here they weren't.
Nice fix lads, it's always good to see these old machines being restored.
Work of beauty.. my dream to own one..
They're pretty cool little games!
Love all of your repair videos! You are an inspiration. :]
@17:11 A precision bent screwdriver from Germany. Nice!
I enjoyed it and I love both games. Excitebike was great to play when I wasn't on a BMX track practicing, yes practice or competing. Great video!
If i ever learn to program games i am going to make a fixit ron arcade game. Just think about it. Repairing all the games in joe’s classic video games . Running trough the storage , and trying to evade broken pcb boards . And if you pick up bonus items like nes games you can use them as skates and fly . His weapon is an soldering iron that shoots solder blobs. Aaah men fixit ron the arcade game.... retro is the future men! I am telling you. ( or i have to much covid time at home)
I love this video. Thank you so much for making this video.
Those EPROM chip legs do make a difference... probably kept the +5V or grnd from running the chip....surprised that it just showed failed pins on chip. But great Ron that you were able to bend the pins back without them breaking. Thanks for the video.
Those darn screwdriver bending Krauts!
Absolutely awesome cabinet.
N gotta love an easy fix. ;)
Love this series
I wish I could have one of these, I love these games. Nintendo vs arcade games were awesome. vs. Super Mario bros plays fine on a joystick!
Could be worse, at least the pins were bent on _socketed_ ICs, not on factory installed chips soldered to the board!
The problem only appeared when some of the optional extras were fitted, when then didn't work.
I've seen some factory soldered stuff curled over, and then the solder barely touched the curled over pin so it still worked!
So much for my theory that it was sketchy repair work (incorrectly installed capacitors, bodge wires, etc.) Instead, it was basically just some "repairman" not paying attention to pin alignment when reinserting the ROM chips. But that was before Ron got his hands on it and got it working again.
They push repairman pretty hard. Poorly paid job. it explains alot.
Nice fix Ron..look forward to the next part plus the next part of the roof fix on Donnies Kwiki Mart lol
Hahaha coming soon. Next video, we go INSIDE THE STORE
Thank you for sharing! I have yet to see a red tent in real life!
Cool video....I was suspecting the cpu was bad.
That was going to be the first thing I tried, swapping the CPU's... .
Fantastic job two more games brought back to life way to go Dr gameinstine.lol.
Picked one up today from a fellow enthusiast! Awww FUQ yea!
Man they're really cool, I love Nintendo stuff, i'm a sucker. makes me feel like I'm 7 years old again.
Nice fix and a nice tent :)
We need to see a vs excitebike match now!!!
Coming tomorrow
@@LyonsArcade Alriiiiiight!
Pretty sweet you got it going all it was was a real bad Rom chip that’s crazy 😜
Looks nice after fixed
I love the ceramic PPUs with those radiators! Are they getting hot?
Nope I've never noticed one hot before...
@@LyonsArcade so why they even have radiators?
It is pitty that Nintendo did not used those RGB PPUs in the home consoles! Sega did and theirs home consoles can display native RGB out from the box, even on Sega Mark 3/Master System!
Are we gonna get a video of those Radikal Bikers back there?
Thursday vid and a Bacardi & Coke. Nice! 😎
Hey this is a weird question. Just out of curiosity, since I have no stake in video arcade games, I was wondering, it seems like you spend several if not 10s of hours to fix one game. How much per hour do you charge for labor? It seems like for an old retro game to pay for the labor and parts to fix it, it would be really expensive and not really worth it? Like a used car that's been totalled. Just curious, and I love what you do!
I'm upset! I'm medicated...errr...I mean, educated!
hahaha you know we're just playing Matthias, thank you for watching as always!
@@LyonsArcade =)
Nice fix...so two degrees !......in what please ?....what's your passion apart from keeping history alive for us to enjoy ?
Does that rom burner work for all the older pinball machines? Also what is the name of that burner? Thanks
Yes it's a tl866 Plus II , they're about 50 bucks and work great for the older stuff.
Hahaha. Your videos crack me up. Keep it up. 🤣😂🤣
Here is a table for the correct game PPUs: www.pc-10.com/vschipsets.html
May be you can help. I have a VS. board with SMB on the right side aka unisystem mode. Boots fine but the image is very dim. My other boards are fine. It does have a Mike's adapter jamma board since I run everything through a super gun setup. Do you know why it could be so dim? At one point it was work fine then the next, issues.
thanx
Was it working fine before on the Mike's adapter? Sometimes the video ground going out will make the screen immediately dark... the video ground is usually tied to the ground on the board, theoretically if you have a bad connection on that one ground the whole screen will still be there but be much darker. It looks like it has shadows on it if it loses the video ground...
@@LyonsArcade Yes it was working at one time. Low and behold it was the adapter. Swapped it out with a Pcbjunkie one and bright as can be. If there is a bad ground on the mike's adapter how do you test/fix. Also is there a way to fix the audio? The adapter really over drives the sound. Turning the Vol. Pot down does really nothing.
Hey do y'all still have a Pinbot for sale?
We do, you can see it at www.LyonsArcade.com .
@@LyonsArcade oops sorry I forgot you guys don't ship. I might have to take a road trip to SC though
nice
Can you make Nintendo vs super xevious vs system pcb
I haven't seen that one!
I know Nintendo vs super xevious pcb is workable
Who the Hell pull out the chips and stuff them back in without looking. Bad
It happens!
Parasitic voltage...
JOE's CLASSIC, what is the difference between a PPU chip and a PROM chip? the PPU chip has the video color palette code files loaded on it but also PROM chips have the video color palette code files loaded onto it, so I don't understand the differences between a PPU chip and PROM chip in arcade games
The PPU is the picture processing unit. Basically the GPU of its day. A PROM is just a memory storage device that cannot be written to after it is installed.