Q and A after the debate, Mawlana Asrar (Sunni) vs Abdur Rahman (Wahabi)
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- Look at how Mawlana Asrar Rashid answers and how Abdur Rahman answers, you will see a major difference between a scholar and a misguided individual.
Debate between Mawlana Asrar Rashid (Sunni) vs Abdur Rahman (Wahabi)
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"You alone we worship and you alone we ask for help"- Surah Fathia verse 5
Then why do you go to mechanic to fix your car? Why have a job to earn money? Visit Doctor for medical help? Sit with a teacher for learning? Call ambulance if you think your having a heart attack? Visit Shops for buying food?
Whats your response to this???
Then why do you go to mechanic to fix your car? Why have a job to earn money? Visit Doctor for medical help? Sit with a teacher for learning? Call ambulance if you think your having a heart attack? Visit Shops for buying food?
Whats your response to this???
Doesn't make sense, why do you ask doctor for help then?
@@qureshib61they aren't DEAD .
@@qureshib61the whole point of the video was to prove that we cannot call upon Dead people for help.
The Quran clearly showed us how all the prophets called to Allah alone at their times of struggle.
Because they were at the time the highest ranked human on earth
+ali Somalia exactly. Then the correct thing to do is follow them.
أُولٰئِكَ الَّذينَ هَدَى اللَّهُ ۖ فَبِهُدىٰهُمُ اقتَدِه ۗ قُل لا أَسـَٔلُكُم عَلَيهِ أَجرًا ۖ إِن هُوَ إِلّا ذِكرىٰ لِلعٰلَمينَ
These are they whom Allah guided, therefore follow their guidance. Say: I do not ask you for any reward for it; it is nothing but a reminder to the nations.
TELL UR SHAIK ABDUR REHMAN TO FOLLOW THE PROPHETS, COZ HE ACCEPTS ASKING THE PROPHETS HELP IN DUA WHILST THEY ALIVE AS PERMISSABLE. BUT YOU SAY OTHERWISE EH? SILLY WAHABIS.
BUT SALAFI ABDUR REHMAN SAYS YOU CAN CALL ON A PROPHET TO HELP YOU AT THE TIME OF STRUGGLE, ONLY IF THE PROPHET IS ALIVE.YOU NOW HAVE A DEAD SHIRK AND A LIVE SHIRK ! I GUES YOU PREFER NEITHER. PLEASE TALK TO ABDUR REHMAN ABOUT THIS, YOU JUST SENT HIM TO JAHANNUM YOU JAHIL..
+Sayed Imraan Basha No need to right in capital letters Iike u r shouting. Hhhhh
Could you refer to parts of Abdulrhahmans speech where he said what u r claiming so I can respond ?
Yea, I made Taubah as well after watching this debate not to call upon anyone but Allah. Make dua for my parents 😢
It is related from Anas, "If there was a drought, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab would askal-'Abbas ibn 'Abdu'l-Muttalib to do the rain prayer. He would say, 'O Allah we would seek intercession with You by Your Prophet and we would ask you for rain, now we seek intercession with You by the uncle of our Prophet, so give us rain!'" He added, "And they were given rain." (Sahih Bukhari Book:Al istasqa Chapter: Suaal An Nas Al Imam Alistasqa iza Qahatu Page : 245 Hadith number:1010)
It was narrated from 'Uthman bin Hunaif that a blind man came to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) and said: "Pray to Allah to heal me." He said: "If you wish to store your reward for the Hereafter, that is better, or if you wish, I will supplicate for you." He said: "Supplicate." So he told him to perform ablution and do it well, to pray two Rak'ah, and to say this supplication: "Allahumma lnni as'aluka wa atawajjahu ilaika bimuhammadin nabiyyir-rahma. Ya Muhammadu inni qad tawajjahtu bika ila rabbi fi hajati hadhihi lituqda. Allahumma fashaffi’hu fiya (O Allah, I ask of You and I turn my face towards You by virtue of the intercession of Muhammad the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I have turned to my Lord by virtue of your intercession concerning this need of mine so that it may be met. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me)"
(Tirmidhī in al-Jami-us-sahīh, book of da‘awat (supplications) ch.119 (5:569#3578) where he declared it "HASAN SAHIH GHARIB") (Ibn Majah transmitted it in his Sunan, book of Iqamat al-salat wa al-sunnat (establishing prayer and its sunnahs)[Page 197, Hadith No#1385)
Malik ad-Dar i.e. treasurer of Umar (RA) relates: The people were gripped by famine during the tenure of Umar (Ibn-ul-Khattab). Then a man walked up to the grave of Prophet and said: O Messenger of Allah! ask for rain from Allah for your Ummah who is in dire straits. Then he saw the Prophet (SAW) in dream. The Prophet (SAW) said to him, Go over to Umar, give him my regards and tell him that the rain will come to you. And tell Umar that he should be on his toes, he should be on his toes (he should remain alert). He went over to see Umar and passed on to him the tidings. On hearing this, Umar broke into a spurt of crying. He said, O Allah, I exert myself to the full until I am completely exhausted.
References
►Al-Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah Volume 011, Page No. 118, Hadith
This Hadith is authenticated as **Sahih** by
►Imam Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah Wan Nihayah Volume No. 5, Page No. 167
►Imam Qastallani in al-Mawahib-ul-laduniyyah (4:276)
► Ibn-e-Taymiya in Fi-Iqtida-as-Sirat-il-Mustaqim (Vol.1, Page 373)
Abu Nu’aym related to us who said that Sufyan related to us from Abu Ishaq from Abdur Rahman ibn Sa’d, who said Ibn Umar had numbness in his leg, whereupon a man said to him Remember the most beloved of people to you, so he said: “Ya Muhammad”
Reference
►Imam Bukhari, Kitab ul Adab ul Mufrad, Page No. 404, Hadith # 964
Mullah Ali Qari رَحِمَهُ الله said:
Ibn Umar (رضي الله عنه ) expressed his love in the form of "ISTIGHATHA (SEEKING HELP)" [Mullah Ali Qari: Sharh ash-Shifa (2/41)]
Narrated `Umar: The Prophet said: "When Adam committed his mistake he said: O my Lord, I am asking you to forgive me for the sake of Muhammad. Allah said: O Adam, and how do you know about Muhammad whom I have not yet created? Adam replied, O my Lord, after You created me with your hand and breathed into me of Your Spirit, I raised my head and saw written on the heights of the Throne: "LA ILAHA ILLALLAH MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH" I understood that You would not place next to Your Name but the Most Beloved One of Your creation. Allah said: O Adam, I have forgiven you, and were it not for Muhammad I would not have created you."
It was transmitted through many chains and was cited by Bayhaqi (in Dala'il al-nubuwwa), Abu Nu`aym (in Dala'il al-nubuwwa), al-Hakim in al-Mustadrak (2:615), al-Tabarani in his Saghir (2:82, 207) with another chain containing sub-narrators unknown to Haythami as he stated in Majma` al-zawa'id (8:253), and Ibn `Asakir on the authority of `Umar ibn al-Khattab, and most of these narrations were copied in Qastallani's al-Mawahib al-laduniyya (and al-Zarqani's Commentary 2:62). This hadith is declared sound (sahih) by al-Hakim in al-Mustadrak (2:651, Hadith No. 4228)
Alhamdulillah
@spreaderofalhaqq not differentiating between seeking means and calling out in Dua, which is a form of worship.
Not differentiating between telling a live doctor to give u medicines and calling out " Yaa ghouse madad".
Not understanding what they recite in surah fatiha in every prayer. "" You Alone we worship and You Alone we ask for help"....... Biddati Barelwi logic.
@spreaderofalhaqq allahu akbar, are you really that stupid
@spreaderofalhaqq .how you left Allah n started knocking on people's graves for help. DONT U SEE ANY SIN IN WHAT YOU DOING? NO?
Are Muslims debating upon permissibility of calling upon any body other than Allah??
May Allah protect.
So you have never said “Oh mother, help me with something”?
@@omark7164 Be mindful of Allah, and He will teach you when and whom to call.
May Allah protect and forgive our mothers.
Jazakallahu khairan
@@rehanzamindar6533 Doesn’t answer my question. If you say that asking someone other than Allah, than by your logic, it is shirk to ask your mother.
@@omark7164 Are you in doubt that you have only one Creator?
@@rehanzamindar6533 No. La ilaha illa Allah. Now answer the question.
The title of this video is incorrect..
Defo. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi. Misguided
@@WiseEyes313 ashari*
@@ahmedmahboub2199 It should be Sunni (AbdulRahman) vs Barelvi or Sufi (Asrar)
@@IbnSharif ashari*
ashari = sunni by the way
The title is misleading, Asrar is a Brelvi Sufi not a Sunni
Barelvi sufi is not a sect. Baraily is a place were Sunni imam Ahmad raza is from. It's just that many Asian Sunni called them self barelvy out of their love and respect for the Work Imam Ahmad raza did for the Sunni sect
A proper title would be Sunni Vs Sufi. This guy lost the debate so bad the only response he has is to keep on spreading the embarrassing lie about an invented sect called “wahabism” to try to use an ad hominem (sad personal attacks because you know you can’t win the debate) to distract people from the truth this brother is speaking. Wahabi is a term Shia, Sufi etc try to use to paint an image in people’s head about a person that’s speaking the pure truth from clear evidences. Not some baseless mumbo jumbo Sufis preach. The prophet (saw) fought and suffered his whole life for La Ilaha Ila Alllah. And today people claim to be “Sunnis” while categorically going against the sunnah subhanAllah. May Allah guide us all 🤲🏾❤️
@@IbnSharif the debate went over your head. Ustad embarrass himself by literally making up a condition which he couldn’t back with the Quran and sunnah. Also he has insulted Allah by his condition because he deems death as the criteria for something to be associated with Allah because he considers this “ shirk” to be ok when the person is alive but it becomes shirk ( associating partners with Allah) when the person is dead. Astagfurllah only the biggest of amongst ignorant would think abdul Rahman won this
MashAllah Shaykh Asrar Rashid may he be preserved and be rewarded abundantly.
@@IbnSharif The 4 imams all did it, with imam an Nawawi
May Allah guide all of us to haqq!
Which is the haqq here ?
@@zas1971 AUSTAAD ABDUR RAHMAAN.....
@@asmatjan.sheena4348 oh he is a deviant Wahaabi guy
@@zas1971 what is your problem with him...
None your own business....ok
@@asmatjan.sheena4348 yes he is on the haqq
Sheikh Asrar may Allah bless you with great blessings
I dont find any dua in the Quran and hadees of the prophet pbuh where it ask dua to other than Allah or any persons wasila.If you have any please inform me.
@TheHaroon786786 if why the prophet never ever took the"wasila" of any other prophets such as Ibrahim AS in making Dua to Allah ?Neither Quran teaches us to supplicate to other than Allah.Why there is no evidence of such kind of supplications in the Quran but the opposite does exists Abunduntly.
@@mdrasid007 because The Prophet (pbuh) is the closest to Allah. However there is evidence that other Prophets(pbuh) gave the wasila of the Prophet (pbuh).
@@MrRiz157 can you quote it here, please
“it is declared in the 15th âyat of Sûrat al-Qassass: “People of his tribe did istighâtha from him against the enemy.” A hadîth sherîf says: “They will do istighâtha from Âdam ‘’alaihis-salâm’ at the place of the Mahshar.” A hadîth sherîf quoted in al-Hisn al-hasîn, says: “He who needs help should say, ‘O Allâhu ta’âlâ’s slaves! Help me!’ ” This hadîth sherîf commands us to call for help from someone not near us.”(al-Usûl-ul-arba’a fî-terdîd-il-wahhâbiyya)
@@thirdocean3784 Al Qasas ayat 15:And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting: one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and [unintentionally] killed him. [Moses] said, "This is from the work of Satan. Indeed, he is a manifest, misleading enemy."
Where did you get the impression that one made dua to Mosses ?Didnt Mosses present at the sopt of the incident?Do you have any intelect?
Problems are created when people put they own word in Quran and hadith
So youre against all tafasirs?
the "sunni" is not sunni
Masha allah long live asrar rashid and his love, respect and honour for Prophet Muhammad SAW
brevlis and shia share alot of things
Like ravafiz and wahabi
Like khawarij and wahhabi
What I don’t understand is that those people who claim to love Prophet saw don’t mention much about Allah sbw and also don’t follow prophet saw in his looks and instead do opposite . If they were deeply in love with a prophet saw then they would have done even the recommended stuff let alone only compulsory acts . Just saying love with mouth don’t probe anything . Actions speak louder than words
Syed Miah this is just silly.
The one who mentions the prophet sallalahu alaih Wsalam is automatically praising Allah. For he is Allah’s greatest creation.
If you are an artist and you have a master piece, then someone comes and tells you, you are a great artist. That’s fine you accept it but it’s not a big deal you already know this... but if someone comes to you and tells you how great your masterpiece is and describes all of its details and beautifies it further, you will automatically take that as ultimate praise.
This is the simplest answer to your statements.
Sultan AbdulHamid praising muhammad=\= praising God. Put down the sahih kool aid and use the quran in conjunction with your brain
@@ubaidshah1910 how about you use your common sense.
i will praise the Prophet Sallalahu Alaihi wasalam day and night whilst you burn over it.
Allah swt commands in the Quran to praise the prophet Sallalahu Alaihi Wasalam. so i will do as Allah commands.
masalaama.
@@Cricketers.United lol grave worshipper thinks worshipping creation is worshipping Allah.
Please don’t just label him “Sunni”. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi. Misguided
Where is this going.
I am with Wahabi,ie calling upon Allah alone.
*Allahu akbar*
Really brother... Then on the day of hashr don't take help of Prophet Muhammad salallahu alahi wassalam for jannah
@@sayyeddawood7849 we ask Allah alone in this dunyaa and we will ask Allah alone on the day of judgment, In sha Allah, may Allah subhanahu wa taa'la protect us from shirk and biddah khurafat.
@@mdrasid007 if you personally ask me then I just pray to Allah alone ask Allah alone for things but I also take waseela of Prophet.. I guess there's nothing wrong in seeking waseela
@@sayyeddawood7849 don't guess but be sure and confident.
It is clear that the Asrar Rashid is misguided. You can literally see the doubt on his face. It should be titled Mawlana Asrar (Barelvi) vs Abdur Rahman (Sunni).
Diggers of the blessed grave are not Sunni
You're just jealous that asrar rashid is very knowledgeable and too make yourself feel better about yourself you're trying to claim shaykh asrar is misguided.
@@tayeebhussain5014 lol asrar is a fool .
Then let me ask you a question then.
Tell me who created diseases?
Now tell me who gives shifa?
If your answer is Allah.
Then why do you visit doctors for your ailments. You should ask Allah to cure it as he is the creator of diseases and he is the one who gives you shifa from it. You cannot run away. First learn Islam from those who are successful. The best way is to learn from Allah's Friends the ones who are actually his friends. Not your wahan najdi.
so what if Allah swt made doctors etc and put the knowledge in their heads to administer a cure to disease? Stop with your nonsense. Of course we pray to Allah swt that doesn’t mean ignore the cure or assistance/benefits that’s provided in human form. Next time you’re in pain, don’t take medication. You just pray to Allah yeah? Allah has created all this for you to make use of.
Whoever put this is lying not only was asrar absolutely wrong and his aqeeda isnt that of a sunni muslium but
the very thing he was trying to justify was already proven incorrect by so many ayaat and the prophet muhammad PBUH. To say otherwise would be lunacy and not of islam
@TheHaroon786786 than you obviously didnt watch the debate because the " wahabi " explained the errors and weaknesses in this narration according to some scholars like ibn hajar al asqalani.
Agreed.
Q@A should have been longer
These subtitles need a translator
Abdul Rahman is not wahabi, pls stop labeling each other...
Yes he is. His opinion that asking the dead to make dua for you is like associating them with Allah is a Najidi dawah view point.
@@jamesjoe2399 it is safer to ask directly to Allah (tawassul by using 99 Allah's name/ asma'ul husna)
@@alpicwnel Yes, I definitely agreed with you, why should anyone take risk of SHIRK. Always Call ALLAH FOR EVERYTHING. ✔👍
@@jamesjoe2399 it's not a "najdi" view, it's a view of the Sahaba, the tabieen and taba'tabieen and the 4 imams.
@@al-quran8349 they did but ur skeik al bani weaken it
YA ALLAH ALONE
Mohammed Shafiq what do you read in tashahud
Narrated Anas:
Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for rain through Al'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us rain." And they would be given rain."
noahj 457 I read all acts of worships are exclusively for Allah (SWT)
Wasalaawaatu - and prayers are for Him
Watayyibaatu - which are pure
Then ask Allah (SWT) to send His peace upon Rasoolullah SAW
And mercy upon him....
and upon the rightly guided servants of Allah (SWT)
Etc...
@@thephantomterence9211 Al-Tahiyyaatu Lillaahi wa’l-salawaatu wa’l-tayyibaat. Al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’l-Nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allaahi wa barakaatuhu. Al-salaamu ‘alaynaa wa ‘ala ‘ibaad-illaah il-saaliheen. Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluh (All compliments, prayers and pure words are due to Allaah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allaah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allaah. I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger).
@@thephantomterence9211 when we say " Al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’l-Nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allaahi wa barakaatuhu", we are saying "O", O Prophet, meaning Ya Nabi. Muslims read it daily, so is it shirk?
Are brelwis in the UK too? I thought they were only in Pakistan and India due to them not being educated.
They are not barelwi they are ahle sunnah wal jamah with certain points unclear to both sects , which they are having this debate and i from my side would conclude that this type of debate will work is more unlikely, it should not be in peoples eye because if there are errors the person watching hearing would simply believe that part even if it is wrong and by that time over books of deeds will be marked as fail including the one who made errors and who followed
They are majority in UK.
The wahabis think barewlis are uneducated becuze their ulema come from Medina university.... AHLE SUNNAH ULEMA COME FROM Damascus and egypt all over. Ahles Sunnah is not only Pakistanis they from all over. We only don't do mawlid in uk and Pakistan. There is Muslims all over the world is doing it. Wahabi salafi Ahle hadith ikwanno wateba u wana call them are very miniority. They have control of two holy mosques it doesn't make them correct.
@@isrargulzar5069 your braviley not ahle sunnah keep in mind you are jhail
Sunni Muslim governed makkaha and madina till 19 century, all Turkish people are Sunnis and we are proud to be sunni.
Don’t let the title mislead you. He’s not wahabi
😂 they call every salafi a wahabi every salafi is a Sunni
@@Oooooooo79780% is wahhabi. Real Hanbali scholars live in Egypt most of them
@@Geengeleerde Jij die de term Wahabi gebruikt, duid aan dat jij tegen de Sunnah gaat, want Wahab is een van de namen van Allah (Wahaab)
Jij moet Tawbah verrichten en alleen Allah سبحانه وتعالى aanbidden en alleen aan Hem hulp vragen.
@@Mazehified jij hebt er dus geen kaas van gegeten als jij denkt dat ik hier Allah ermee bedoel. Jij bent helemaal niemand om tegen mij te zeggen om Tawba te verrichten. Jij gelooft waarschijnlijk dat Allah ledematen heeft en letterlijk zit op een stoel en heen en weer beweegt. Vrees Allah, aoudhu billah!
Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab wordt niet erkend als geleerde in de Hanbali madhab, heeft alleen maar fitna gezaaid en tig mensen uitgemoord. Heeft een stroming ontwikkeld en de Hanbali madhab gekaapt en de geboorte van de Saudische leer was een feit.
Zijn vader heeft hem uit de madrasah gekickt en zelfs zijn eigen broer heeft een boek over hem geschreven!
De term Wahhabi wordt gebruikt door hen zelf!
Open de geschiedenis boeken, lees het voor je zelf. Dit zijn historische feiten, geen aannames
@@Mazehified Als jij denkt dat ik Allah hiermee bedoel, heb jij er letterlijk geen kaas van gegeten. Jij bent helemaal niemand om tegen mij te zeggen om Tawba te verrichten. Waarschijnlijk geloof jij dat Allah ledematen heeft, letterlijk op een stil zit en heen en weer beweegt. Vrees Allah! Aoudbu bilah!
Volg eerst de soennitische leer en de klassieke geleerden voordat je zo’n uitspraak maakt.
MIAW is geen geleerde, wordt ook helemaal niet erkend in de Hanbali school. Heeft alleen maar fitna gezaaid, tig mensen uitgemoord en wordt bestempeld als khariji door grote ullema! Zijn eigen vader heeft hem uit de madrasah gekickt en zijn broer heeft een heel boek over hem geschreven!
Weet jij wel wie MIAW is en wie de Saudische staat zijn?
De Wahhabi movement zijn Khwarij! De “Salafi/Saudische” leer is van uit daar ontstaan!
LEES EEN BOEK
Dit zijn historische feiten, geen aannames. Sta open om de geschiedenis te lezen zodat Allah je, met zijn Wil zal leiden.
Reageer niet op mij want ik ga niet met je discussiëren. Ik zal op je antwoordt niet reageren en ik zal het ook niet lezen.
Jij weet niet waar je het over, ook met je “alleen Allah om hulp vragen”.
Je hebt geen kennis en bent de moeite niet waard.
Ik raad je het boek “Wahhabism: The History of a Militant Islamic Movement van academicus Cole Bunzel aan als je oprecht geïnteresseerd bent en van een onafhankelijke bron wilt lezen.
Asrar Rashid is clearly misguided and trying to add 'Shirq' in Aqidah. To established his intention he is using prophet Muhammad SW's name! Alhamdulillah, in this debate he failed miserably. And thanks to brother Abdur Rahman for his deep knowledge and logic. Alhamdulillah.
وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا لِيُطَاعَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُوا أَنفُسَهُمْ جَاءُوكَ فَاسْتَغْفَرُوا اللَّهَ وَاسْتَغْفَرَ لَهُمُ الرَّسُولُ لَوَجَدُوا اللَّهَ تَوَّابًا رَّحِيمًا (64
تعالى : ( وما أرسلنا من رسول إلا ليطاع ) أي : فرضت طاعته على من أرسله إليهم وقوله : ( بإذن الله ) قال مجاهد : أي لا يطيع أحد إلا بإذني . يعني : لا يطيعهم إلا من وفقته لذلك ، كقوله : ( ولقد صدقكم الله وعده إذ تحسونهم بإذنه ) [ آل عمران : 52 ] أي : عن أمره وقدره ومشيئته ، وتسليطه إياكم عليهم .
وقوله : ( ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما ) يرشد تعالى العصاة والمذنبين إذا وقع منهم الخطأ والعصيان أن يأتوا إلى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم فيستغفروا الله عنده ، ويسألوه أن يستغفر لهم ، فإنهم إذا فعلوا ذلك تاب الله عليهم ورحمهم وغفر لهم ، ولهذا قال : ( لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما )
وقد ذكر جماعة منهم : الشيخ أبو نصر بن الصباغ في كتابه " الشامل " الحكاية المشهورة عن العتبي ، قال : كنت جالسا عند قبر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فجاء أعرابي فقال : السلام عليك يا رسول الله ، سمعت الله يقول : ( ولو أنهم إذ ظلموا أنفسهم جاؤوك فاستغفروا الله واستغفر لهم الرسول لوجدوا الله توابا رحيما ) وقد جئتك مستغفرا لذنبي مستشفعا بك إلى ربي ثم أنشأ يقول :
يا خير من دفنت بالقاع أعظمه فطاب من طيبهن القاع والأكم نفسي الفداء لقبر أنت ساكنه
فيه العفاف وفيه الجود والكرم
ثم انصرف الأعرابي فغلبتني عيني ، فرأيت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في النوم فقال : يا عتبي ، الحق الأعرابي فبشره أن الله قد غفر له .
The Almighty: (And we did not send a messenger except to obey) that is, his obedience was imposed on those who sent him to them and his saying: (God willing) Mujahid said: That is, no one obeys except with my permission. Meaning: He does not obey them except by those who have complied with it, such as his saying: (And God has believed and promised you when you feel for them with his permission) [Al-Imran: 52] That is, about his command, his destiny, and his will, and his authority over them.
And his saying: (And if they had wronged themselves, they came to you, and sought forgiveness from God and the Messenger of forgiveness for them, they would have found God to be merciful.) May God have mercy on them and forgive them. That is why he said: (Let us find God merciful and repentant)
A group of them mentioned: Sheikh Abu Nasr bin Al-Sabbagh in his book "Al-Shamil" the famous story on the authority of Al-Atabi. He said: I was sitting at the grave of the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, and an Arab came and said: Peace be upon you, O Messenger of God. They wronged themselves, they came to you, so seek forgiveness from God and ask forgiveness for them, the Messenger, to find God a merciful repentance.
O the best of those who are buried in the bottom, the greatest is the best of their goodness, and the best is the redemption for the grave you inhabit
The chastity and the generosity and kindness
Then the Bedouin turned away and my eyes overtook me, and I saw the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, in sleep. He said: O my thine, the Arab truth, so give him good tidings that God has forgiven him.
Long live Shaykh Asrar Rashid and his students, family and followers. Ameen
@TheHaroon786786 narration with some weaknesses
Brother Dilly 👏🏽
Will i be commited to hell if i only call upon Allah in time of need?
Ok, so protecting the sunnah of rasulallah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam and loving the dīn of Allah makes you wahhabi. lol
What makes u a wahabi is following a ideology from ibn wahab the same man that sold himself to the secret societies he's also from najd
When you follow mohammad bin abdul wahab. They call you wahabi. Not mohammadi and when they follow ahmad raza khan. They are not raza khani. Theese arrogants are still sunni.
@@Spottedapnaviral and i suppose you have evidence of Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhaab selling himself to "secret societies"?
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhaab was both a fellow human being and a fellow Muslim. As such, he has the right to be studied in an impartial and objective manner. That is, he has the right to a “fair trial.” No matter how much one may oppose his teachings, one does not have the right to wrong him. Indeed, the Prophet (PBUH) has warned, “Wrongdoing [shall be] darkness on the Day of Resurrection.” (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) When speaking about another person, such as ibn Abdul Wahhaab or his followers, one should remember the Prophet’s teaching, “All of a Muslim is inviolable to every other Muslim, with respect to his blood, wealth and honor.” (Recorded by Muslim.) One must also be cautious of the Prophet’s warning,
“Beware of the supplication of the wronged for between him and Allah there is no barrier.” (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) Even if one wants to argue that ibn Abdul Wahhaab and his followers are not to be considered Muslims, one should be wary of speaking untruths about them, so it is upto you who has made this claim of him being sold to secret societies to prove it with evidence. May Allah protect anf guide us all to the straight path...Ameen
@@Spottedapnaviral we only follow quran and sunnah..
U barelvis are more close to shias than sunnis
@TheHaroon786786 nice joke...stop doing biddat then
What i understand from this debate is somali guy is correct in his own way bcse he tried his best to b safe from committing shirk and asrar rashid also correct bcse he didnt have any intention to call Rasool Allah as equal to Allah.As we know the most beloved to Allah is our Rasool Allah asrar saying out of love for Rasool Allah we can take waseela to ask from Allah..thr is very thin line exists between this normal people cant understand this depth . Even if some Muslim in pain or problem out of love call Rasool Allah we should not label him as kufr bcse his niyyat or intention of calling is out love not same as calling Allah.Till a person say openly Rasool Allah is equal to Allah till thn we should not give judgement on tht particular person as kufr ..even khalid bin waleed Razi Allah anhu used to keep the hair of Prophey under his hat out of love thr r many examples normal mind like us cant understand the depth of it
quite funny how asrar rashid always seems to have something sick in his throat when is his time to speak... probably his pride and arrogance! the 3 conditions that abdul rehman was talking about are common sense for the person that thinks with logic.
Hm logic... and i thought the proof must be from the two sources not by logical arguments. especially in such a most important matter. the truth is these 3 "conditions" cannot be found anywhere as direct instructions connected to this topic. search all your life, its an innovation.
+Idris S. brother where can you find the other side of the argument? where does allah swt or the messenger of allah pbuh or the first 3 generations of islam teach you the practices these guys are pushing today??????
+Waqas Hussain did you even watch the debate or listen to what asrar rashid said?
didnt abdur Rahman even adress those proofs?
i just cant understand how you close yours ears and eyes when proof is presented and then of course the Authenticity of it being established . ( no the opposition did not respond to the authentification )
are you just playing like you didnt hear?
+Idris7 and next thing is abdur Rahman didnt cite the source of his claims . merely names of scholars who he claims have made such statements.
the level of argumentation here is clearly different also the use of methods and proof.
while one side only quotes names and accusations to weaken the arguments of the other ( which is in no way a reply to a question or a refutation of an argument, you have to adress what is said)
and then quotes verses and sayings to make his statements without quoting their scholarly exegesis and explanation.
to conclude abdur Rahman mostly made claims while asrar rashid supported his statements with proof.
there was sadly not much focus on one single point because either of the parties jumped back and forth on topics thus urging the other to respond.
wish they wouldve just chosen 1 topic, then present their respective proofs and then presenting refutation of those mentioned proofs.
The “wahabbi” Is upon the sunnah and the other is not. The title is misleading.
Is there a Hadith where the Prophet (S.A.W) said that it was ever permissable to upon him while he (S.A.W) was in his (S.A.W.) grave?
Asrar's explanations seems clear and authentic. Rahman's explanation also authentic but some times he seems to be having issues.
Did you watched The four hours debat? I advise you to do that. Explantion of Ustadh Hassan is only talking from The two sources. The Quran and Sunnah. The Haqq! May Allah May reward him in This Dunya and akhiera.
Indeed. The only thing is I think he takes some institutional stuff too seriously thats why the first debate was unnecessarily muddled and not straight to the point. That is coupled with a lot of "Sufis" (claiments to tasuwuf which is a part of Islam).. they start by taking their saints and shouyoukh too important and it comes with this institutionalized methodology which the yehud and nasara were criticized for in the Quran
As a Liberial Muslim I'd Call the AA, Allah knows what people do-,“Unquestionably, to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth. Already He knows that upon which you [stand] and [knows] the Day when they will be returned to Him and He will inform them of what they have done. And Allah is Knowing of all things.” Quran (Surah Nur, 64), why do these people get aggressive and shout like arrogant preachers, totally out dated Islam needs to come up to 21st century standards not complete following of 1400 years ago and people putting their own spins to sell out Mosques, Maajid Nawaz says it correct "Islam like any other Religion can and has to be scrutinised", the sooner all Muslim except this and recognise this concept we can all live in peace.
shutup
A liberal Muslim is a contradiction. "O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." 2:208
"It is not for a believing man or woman-when Allah and His Messenger decree a matter-to have any other choice in that matter.1 Indeed, whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has clearly gone ˹far˺ astray."33:36
Allah and his Messenger define what is permissible and impermissible. We understand how the best of generations understood the Salaf.
I don't understand the point of debating between Muslims. What is the point? It's just making Muslims divide. May Allah Guide us to the straight path and make us steadfast in His deen.
Israr is brelvi not sunni, abdurahman is sunni,
Narrated Anas:
Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for rain through Al'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us rain." And they would be given rain."
This hadith is mentioned by many who go to graves for waseela. Indeed this hadith itself is an evidence that asking dead for waseela is haram. Why Umar(ra) used to go to Alabbas. And what he used to say.?? If waseela through graves is ok then why did they asked Alabbas while there is no better grave on earth then the grave of Mohammad(saw) which was right before their eyes.
stranger 12 Umar used to go to The Messenger ﷺ
The arabic is
اللهم إنا نتوسل اليك بنبيّنا
Oh Allah we used to seek nearness to you with your Prophet ﷺ.
Umar then said:
إنا نتوسل اليك بعمّ نبينا
We seek nearness to you with the uncle of the Prophet ﷺ.
The context of tawassul in this hadeeth was seeking nearness to Allah through the du’a of someone, how do we know this? Because Al-Abbaas made du’a and it rained :)
@@v114OG seeking nearness throgh a pious living person is not a matter of conflict according to any muslim.seeking tawasul through the deceased is conflicting.
@@v114OG The Prophet saws was alive when they used to ask him to make dua for rain. That's the entire point of the 3 conditions:
Alive, present, and able.
When Umar ra asked Abbas ra to make dua to Allah swt for rain this was after the Prophet's saws death.
And it showed the importance of ahlul bayt aswell!!
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The People said, "And also on our Najd." He said, "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan."
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab was a religious leader and theologian from Najd in central arabia who founded the movement now called wahhabism
Search up “horn of satan” by Abu Mussab. He brings evidences about what this hadith means.
@@user-gl2wf6ex6k abu mussab a pseudo salafi, wahabi nojdi, follower of abdul ibn wahab nojdi satan AKA the muslim killer, like yazid.
najd here is referring to iraq, not central arabia 🤦♂️watch abu mussabs lecture about this. he brings up evidences
So asking الله سبحانه وتعالى alone makes one Wahhabi. للهl الله أكبر.
@@nasirabdiwahid2942 asking allah alone makes you a muslim. asking a question like that sound a bit like playing the victim card to me. victims are the people abdul wahab nojdi killed.
May Allah unite our hearts please dont call any of the brothers misguided make dua for them we all have mistakes.
No, title is wrong . Sufi mushrik vs sunni muslim .
Change your name from momin muslim to momin mujassim
Shaykh asrar ❤️
The interceding and benefit of the prophet is clearly stated in the hadith that he replies back to whom gives prayer to him. If this so, then claiming that interceding or benefiting in any other way requires a specific evidence proving that type of benefit.
I wish ustad abdur rahman and shirkh asrar are an stay friends. They have a good and funny chemistry
You are shirk
The title of the video is so wrong, on many levels... reverts, or people with no knowledge of this will think the sunnah is the way of the one you described on the video, and wahabi is not a part of the "sunni/sunnah" based on this title... when in all realness abdul wahab preached tawheed/the Oneness of Allah, from the quran and SUNNAH/hadiths. May Allah guide us ameen.
His name is Mohamed Abdel wahab not wahab.
Alwahab in Arabic is one of the names of Allah almighty which means who gives with generosity.
Second Mohamed Abdel wahab he didn't create a new way "mathhab" he only was against shirk and if you want to know him read his books and then u can see clearly he was only following Sunna.
Advise read before u judge
May Allah bless you
You are speaking the haqq akhi. Muhammad ibn abd al Wahab (rah) never made the sect wahabi. He never made it. There is literally no Muslim that calls himself wahabi. i've never seen one muslim, when someone asks that muslim: what religion are you i've never heard them say im wahabi muslim
If he's a wahaabi..then ur bravehearts
Asrars famous words: " Ibn taymiyyah was the first person to divide tawhid into 3" 😂LOL
Abu Hanifa who was before Ibn Taymiyyah said it.
Rather if you open Tafsir Tabari Surah Al Fatiha you will find it there. 😂
Surah al ahqaf verse 5.
Waman adallu mimman{ yadAAoo} min dooni Allahi man la yastajeebu lahu ila yawmi alqiyamati wahum AAan duAAaihim ghafiloona
And who is more astray than one who {worships} those, instead of Allah, who cannot listen to their prayer until* the Day of Resurrection, and who do not even know of their worship! (Will never listen.)(Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi)
And who is more astray than he who {invokes} besides Allah those who will not respond to him until the Day of Resurrection, and they, of their invocation, are unaware.(sahee international)
Which one makes more sense?
asrar could not mention 1 from the salaf that allowed istighatha from the prophet after he died.
IslamTheRightWay10 lol he mentioned loads watch like the last half an hour . The Salafi couldn't and field all he could provide was salafi secondary sources of ibn tayimah
“it is declared in the 15th âyat of Sûrat al-Qassass: “People of his tribe did istighâtha from him against the enemy.” A hadîth sherîf says: “They will do istighâtha from Âdam ‘’alaihis-salâm’ at the place of the Mahshar.” A hadîth sherîf quoted in al-Hisn al-hasîn, says: “He who needs help should say, ‘O Allâhu ta’âlâ’s slaves! Help me!’ ” This hadîth sherîf commands us to call for help from someone not near us.”(al-Usûl-ul-arba’a fî-terdîd-il-wahhâbiyya)
Why on earth would anyone go into committing all these? Go direct to Allah is more than enough. Absolutely unnecessary thing to ask from the dead. Whether it's permissible or otherwise it's just unnecessary.
No one is saying you can't go direct but what has a higher chance of success your dua or the Prophet pbuh? On the day of judgement who do you ask to stop judgement day. Allah st? No we ask the Prophets and eventually the Prophet pbuh for help. But I'm sure our wahabbi brothers will ask Allah st direct and get a response, while all of humanity runs to the prophets.
@@5heeshi . That's for only day of Judgement!
1. We are forbidden to call upon anything other than Allah ALONE. 2. If you want the prophet Muhammad saws to intercede for you on Qiyamah, you need to follow his sunnah by committing certain good deeds such as fasting for the sake of Allah etc. NOT BY CALLING UPON HIM. 3. Please NEVER brand anybody who doesn’t adhere to a sect as a Wahabi. There was only 1 sect at the time of the prophet saws. We run to Allah, not the prophets like the Christians who worship ISA a.s. We don’t follow Saudi government but Makkah and Madinah are our holy lands. The house of Allah is in Makkah.
The way this video is titled goes against the parameters established before the debate.
Yes they have Yasmin because within al Islam you only ask from Allah he is the provider you do not start to associate attributes and the status of Allah the creator to any of the prophets who are the creation there is a difference if u haven't realised..and then if you preach to people that u can ask from other than Allah you are committing shirk its as simple as that which leads to misguiding/ Misleading people..
I am inbetween. Istighatha can be permissible or shirk akbar, depending on the definition you use.
Tawassul might be permissible but it is not Sunnah and it is not bid'a. Although I respect the view that one views it as bid'a but I don't see it as bid'a. I myself won't do Tawassul because the Hadith is weak but if someone takes it as evidence that the Hadith is ok and acts upon it then I don't condemn him
Wallahu a'lam
agreed - I would not do tawassul simply because it DONT FEEL RIGHT - and we can NEVER GO WRONG if we JUST call on to Allah - because in case its forbidden if we just call to Allah we would never have to worry about answering this to Allah on yawm al-qiyamah
butttt I also agree this is not Bid’ah by the definition that Muhammad gave in bukhari and muttawatir reports - “any new thing” …”which is that OF the religion” - it may be wrong, it may okay to do every once in a while - but there is not one thing of SOLID proof to say that anything other than salem to the prophet (saw) after his death is permissible - so unless its proven otherwise, I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole
but you may disagree with me here but the Ash’arites are imo way more overall sensible and knowledgeable when it comes to areas such as kalam and so forth - without ever going over the top …. BUT this is the ONE THING I just dont understand why 1/2 the ash’aris find “100%” permissible
@@TheGEOPOLITICAN You can never go wrong if your aqeedah is straight. La hawla wa laa quaata ila billahi. This is the right aqeedah. If you, have other aqeedah the you can be scared of shirk and so on. We rely upon a dead asprin when we have a headache right, it is much bigger chance that you go wrong there than Tawassul with right aqeedah. So I have head this typwnof thinking but it doesn't make sense.
Ya Rasulullah al Madad
صل اللہ علیہ وسلم
Ya Allah Madad AllahuAkbar
I personally belief Muhammad SAW can be sought as a mediator to ask Allah. BUT why would i do it ? I have my creator telling me in the Quran that is closer to me than my Jagular vein and my beloved Muhammad SAW has always sought Allah's help directly. So why do i need to risk my faith...i am sure Allah would grant me my Dua if i sought Muhammad SAW's mediation and also Allah would grant my Dua if i seek him directly. BUT again i believe my fear of offending Allah (by chance) will please my Prophet SAW more than my apparent showing of 'love' to Prophet SAW as my 'love' is more like a demand of wishes and happiness for this dunia
All the prophets came with one Dawah... CALL UPON ALLAH ALONE.. thats TAWHEED.
Wahabi? Vs Sunni. What a doltish title. Arent salafis anything but ahl ul sunnah
no they are ahlul bidah and kufr
No they are not, they are ahle khabees
wahhabis are ahlu tashbeeh wa tajseem wa ahlu takfir anything but ahlu sunnah
Wahabi and Salafi r not from Ahlul Sunnah wal Jammah they r Ahle Khabees, they r just misinterpretating the Hadeeth of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and mislead the innocent people .
Please don’t just label him “Sunni”. Not all Sunnis have his belief. He is a barelvi.
@Qasim Mughal - huh? they’ve labelled the barelvi guy as Sunni. Sunni is a broad term and not all Sunnis hold these barelvis beliefs
@@WiseEyes313 Barelvi is mainstream sunni Islam aka Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaat. The enemies of Imam Ahmed Rida Khan Rahimahullah spread lies about 'Barelvis'. Besides, Shaykh Asrar is not barelvi, he studied in Syria. He sits in gatherings of Barelvis sometimes because they are Sunni, and he defends Sunni beliefs, which are the same as Barelvi beliefs.
Wahabi? What does Wahabi mean?
No such thing
Abdur Rahman should dare to Refute Al-Amn wal oola presented to him by shaykh Asrar..
يا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم کا نعرہ لگاتے جائیں گے اور حاسدوں کے دل جلاتے جائیں گے
Bus naaray lagatay jaai gay . Un ko follow ni karay gay aap log
Barelvi bs nary lagaye gy...shia barelvi bhai bhai
Sirf Ya Allah baki sub shirk
@@Basit7729 bhai ager shahba ya roosal madad boly tu per plz reply
@@Basit7729 bhai ager shahba ya roosal madad boly tu per shahba bi mushrik ho gay plz reply
Ambiguous or uncertain or grey areas are best to be avoided. Calling "Ya Rasulullah" is just to be avoided. Just call "Ya Allah Help me in my situation of need"
It's not ambiguous though. It is only ambiguous for someone who is ignorant of the facts.
I think you should fear Allah swt. .
"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah.' Say: 'Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!
Mankind were but one community (i.e. on one religion - Islamic Monotheism), then they differed (later), and had not it been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord, it would have been settled between them regarding what they differed"
[Yoonus 10:18, 19]
More than one of the scholars has clearly stated that what some of the ignorant Muslims do of focusing their devotion on graves is the essence of what the earlier mushrikeen used to do.
Ar-Raazi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his commentary on the verse from Soorat Yoonus quoted above, explaining the explanations that the mushrikeen gave for their worship of idols:
And other scholars of salaf also said that they made these idols and statues in the image of their Prophets and great men, and claimed that if they devoted themselves to worshipping these statues, those great men would be intercessors for them with Allah, may He be exalted. The equivalent to that in our own times is the devotion of many people to venerating the graves of great men, in the belief that if they venerate their graves, they will intercede for them with Allah.
Taken from mafateeh al ghaib.
Allah knows best.
i had been waiting for the proofs from shaikh Abdur rehman on his claims of 3 conditions(alive, present & ability) for istgatha from the earliest 3 generations. But he failed to give it till the end. Since all his debate was based on this 3 points, i would appreciate if could still give a try a prove everyone that his claims were not false.jazzakhallah
Agree with you apart from where you said he failed to give it till the end, I don't recall him giving the source for the 3 conditions at all.
conditions(alive, present & ability) for istgatha
وَدَخَلَ الْمَدِينَةَ عَلَىٰ حِينِ غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ أَهْلِهَا فَوَجَدَ فِيهَا رَجُلَيْنِ يَقْتَتِلَانِ هَٰذَا مِن شِيعَتِهِ وَهَٰذَا مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ ۖ فَاسْتَغَاثَهُ الَّذِي مِن شِيعَتِهِ عَلَى الَّذِي مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَوَكَزَهُ مُوسَىٰ فَقَضَىٰ عَلَيْهِ ۖ قَالَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ ۖ إِنَّهُ عَدُوٌّ مُّضِلٌّ مُّبِينٌ
And he entered the city at a time of inattention by its people and found therein two men fighting: one from his faction and one from among his enemy. And the one from his faction called for help to him against the one from his enemy, so Moses struck him and [unintentionally] killed him. [Moses] said, "This is from the work of Satan. Indeed, he is a manifest, misleading enemy."
+luk1430i ?? That's the evidence for the 3 conditions ???
What?
@@saj3002 Yes, because Musa was alive, present, and able to aid the man who asked for help. There is also a narration from Anas ra when during the reign of Umar ra there was a drought so Umar ra asked Al-Abbas ra to make dua to Allah swt for rain. Umar ra specifically mentioned that "we USED to ask the Proohet saws to make dua" because the Prophet saws was deceased at this point. Al-Abbas ra was alive, present, and able so the 3 conditions were met. If it were permissible to make istighatha to the Prophet saws after death it would make no sense to skip over the Prophet saws and ask Abbas ra to make dua.
why is ustad Abdul rahman tense his legs shaking
A Caan what does that have to do with the debate you ignorant
A K ha ha ha he is shivering
If you watch ustadh abdurahman videos he always shakes his legs
He is nervous
May he wants to kick the ignorant "Ustad"
I find Sh Asrar's argument - that asking the Prophet (s) in his grave is not shirk because this entail asking him to ask Allah [and not independent of Allah] - as disingenuous. In reality what he is defending is statements such as: "“Yaa Muhammad we plea to you, Oh beloved of Allah we plea to you, I am in extreme difficulty nowadays, Oh my remover of difficulties I am pleading to you.” How can such statements not be Shrik? Who are these duas directed to - Allah or the Prophet? Asrar also said that he does not negate asking other dead beside the Rasool (s), so no wonder some of his pirs allow asking of the dead with statements such as: “Yaa Abdul Qaadir give us something for the sake of Allah.” What does such statement amount to, if not shrik?
It’s not who you’re calling to that’s the issue. The issue is when you worship other than Allah. Calling on someone is not worshipping him, as worship is defined as غاية الخشوع والخضوع by taqi ud din as subkiyy: meaning “the pinnacle of fear and submission”. If I called you and asked you to help me with something, this does not mean I worship you. I still believe that Allah is the creator of harm and benefit as he created everything: و خلق كل شيء but you in the situation I’m calling you are a means by which I seek the obtain the benefit created by Allah.
Moving on, you being alive or dead does not increase or decrease Allah’s power to do anything, since he is without need. Asking the prophet while he’s alive or dead has thus absolutely no weight on Allah’s creating harm or benefit. Rather, the Prophet has the highest status in creation and so pleading Allah by using his rank and status is absolutely fine.
Long story short, if a person says ya rasullAllah, as long as they know and believe that Allah is the creator of harm and benefit, this is not a problem.
The neo salafi is a typical preacher, he doesn't present his arguments as a submission, he just preaches. His mooting skills are very poor.
STUPID TITLE, CHILDISH TITLE
From history we can conclude that not all actions are absolute shirk by itself in all times. For example, Sajdah was ordered by Allah Ta'ala for Adam (as) and we find Prophet Yousef's (as) bothers and parents giving him Sajdah out of respect. But this Sajdah of respect was later abrogated and Allah Ta'ala the Legislator made it absolute Shirk. Likewise ruling re istigatha may not be absolute, i.e. allowed when a person is alive and is able to help while shrik when he is dead.
please watch this clip and open your eyes
Though the channel admin tried hard to win the debate with title, the video clearly shows the mushrik and muwahhid and comment sections too shows how many guys did tawba and came back to Islam
This shaykhs style of delivering his lectures is awesome. He does his homework beforehand before talking to people from different walks of life. I just love watching his videos and especially the debates where he clearly exposes the jahils Adrenalin levels with his calm way. May Allah preserve you shaykh Asrar.. Αмєєи اي ولله IYI
Ameen
Please watch the 4 hour debate
Dont embarrass yourself as blind followers
@@hararehaile2813 I did really watch it. We know that your ustad abdurrahman avoiding or even misunderstanding questions made by the shaykh.
Ahle Sunnah Ya Allah 🌹 Ya Rasolallah صل الله عليه وسلم
if the prophet could benefit us when he was alive why cant he benefit us when is in his grave? isnt he a prophet sent to all of mankind? companions used to go to him to make dua even though they could make that dua themselves, why cant i ask the prophet to make dua for me? how is that shirk?
This issue doesn't need arguments. Asrar is on falsehood may Allah guide him.
why you put sunni and wahabi at first place ,everyone are ahle sunna .dont label people you be caught beforw Allah
Brother they are wahabi and they should be called that. They are not from Ahle Sunnah Wal Jammat.
Why did the wobblers cut off this
+Alex Gemi someone who follows ibn Abdul wahab najdi
What do you have to say about this qursn verse? Hadiths don't come over the quran verses. You must admit after reading this quran verse & see salaf explanation that wasela and dua to other than creator is shirk.
Quran 10:106 - And invoke not besides Allah, any that will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers).
Respone None
look at the Ayat in Arabic brother.
correct translation of (Tad'Uw) is Worship not invoke.
Yunus 10:106] "And other than Allah, do not worship that which cannot benefit you nor cause you harm; then if you do so, you would be of the unjust." (* Some things like the sun, stars, trees are useful but they too are created by Allah. Their worship will not benefit - in fact it is harmful.)
abdur Rahman was asked a simple question by sheikh Asrar rashid is that, when prophet ﷺ ascended on the sixth heaven and met Musa (as.) he interceded on the behalf of this nation prayers should be brought to 50 to 5 times a day and prophet ﷺ went back to Allah and then established the 5 times prayer. Did Musa (as.) benefited this Ummah? As Abdur rahmans belief the prophets cant help after their death. He got caught in 4K 😂
He was questioning himself.
"And those who take Auliya (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah." Verily, Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever."
[az-Zumar 39:3]
"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: 'These are our intercessors with Allah.' Say: 'Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!
Mankind were but one community (i.e. on one religion - Islamic Monotheism), then they differed (later), and had not it been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord, it would have been settled between them regarding what they differed"
[Yoonus 10:18, 19]
Ustadh Abdul Rehman thank you for representing the real sunnis.
You mean wahabis
Maashaallah Salafiiyah..
Uhmar ibn al kitab did it with the dry river bed and he would ask through the prophets uncle during droughts May Allah be pleased with them all and raise the rank of our messenger Salallahu alayhi wa salaam
The problem with sufis they know some of the things they say and do are not from the sunnah and no one did it till 300 years after the death of our beloved prophet how ever they claim it is a good innovation when in reality all innovation in religious matters are a sin and forbidden regardless if you as an individual think is good or bad that how Allah preserves his religion may Allah guide us to the path of the prophet, the Companions and the salf
And then they cope by calling people who call them out as "Wahhabis". Little do they know, Al Wahhab is one of Allah's names.
Don’t call the dr when ur sick next time beghairat
A doctor is alive, present, and capable. The 3 conditions are met.
These issues were not even issues during first 3 Generations, but the people of innovation brought such issues in the deen. Always make dua to Allah.
Lies
You're Simply ignorant
If you say: "Oh Allah, give us something because you should be grateful to us we followed the prophet" That is not tawassul (donkey belief anyway) but shameless. On the day of judgement Allah permits possible intercesssion in which someone might talk in your favor. While the intercession is just a calculated way from Allah and contains only truth.
The wahabi name gives ignorant people to salaf or ahle sunnat, this name not exist in Islam for ahle sunna.
Nothing wrong with saying "Ya Muhammad", directly addressing him. Ibn Qudamah even instructs you to do this in a time of need in his "A Word of Advice". You even address the Prophet ﷺ directly in your prayers: “al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyhu’l-nabiyyu.
You not asking the prophet for anything in time of prayer. Listen to the whole debate
Love prophet , adore him , follow him but don't make him more than a prophet . Like the Christians did.
@@rehanzamindar6533 It’s not directly, because Salah is a worship of Allah. And your asking with the permission of Allah , for him to recieve your Salam.
Tagged wrong.
Asrar dont preach baatil
Shaykh Haqq
Mawlana means our lord no one is to be refered to as our lord except Allah this title is most commonly used in the Indian subcontinent and what makes him a sunni more than AbdurRahman
Moula in Arabic has many meanings. When referring to a learned scholar it will take the meaning of our leader.
Moula can mean slave, friend, one who confides
Yaa Habeeb 🌹
Khuz bi yadii ❤️
Shaykh Asrar Is With Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah ..May Allah Bless him More Knowledge and Made him the defender of Ahlesunnah wal jamaah !
To Allah alone we ask for help. That's what Prophets did. Barelvism has adopted the doctrine of intercession from Indian culture and practices.
Asif Ghani on the day of qiyammat will not go to the prophet to save you from hell
Or will u go alone to Allah s.w.t
This is deep ignorance, because what you're saying is that tawassul and intercession are adopted from the Indian culture, yet in North Africa and elsewhere the sunnis also hold this opinion. So what are you talking about?
@@S3ven4 mostly suffis/barelvis have this aqeeda...
Ahle sunnah seek help from Allah
@@Basit7729 You're wrong because throughout Islamic history the encouragement of tawassul and intercession through the Prophets and the Saints of Allah is encouraged. It is not sufi or barelvis specific. It's only the modernists who see it as shirk/bid'ah due to deep ignorance and obliviousness of Classical Islamic Law.
Sunni: we do not say YAA MUHAMMAD to a point that if there is a sticker or a written statement we have been asked to remove it because of the Barelwi contradiction
Barelwai:YAA MUHAMMAD is the belief of Barelwi plz do not put them on Sunni shoulders.
Abdul Rehman is a man that you can rely on for knowledge, the other man is v dodgy on aqeeda!
Dawah Man argued 4 hrs denying Istigasa and was drowned in 5 minutes Q & A sessions ......
I think you made a mistake in the title. Asrar Rashid is not a Sunni, at least he doesn't follow it.
And the term 'Wahabi' is bad to use, as you are making fun of Allah's name, Antal Wahab! Why not call them Abdul-Wahabis? Or Muhammadins? Hmm?
Jazak'Allah
mohammed ali Jazak'Allah for that. May Allah guide you and straighten your affairs, Insha'Allah. Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab was not my "grandad", I don't know where you possibly got that from. Anyways, I have learnt about him and Insha'Allah will continue to do so more. Read one of his books, Kitab at Tawheed, amazing read! Don't worry, you can download it for free on the Play store and don't be scared lol😂
without any disrespect asrar rashid is ashari school of thought I can't understand why u say he is not sunni,I've studied his lineage something things differently from the other brothers but not major things in aqida.
Just like Hanbalis are called Hanbalis and not Ibn Hanbalis.
The truth is in history the wahhabis called themselves wahhabis.
Wrong on both accounts.
1 shaykh Asrar Rashid is sunni.
2 There is nothing wrong with calling them wahabi because in the Arabic language the "yaa" is added at the end to make a nisbat (link) of one thing to another. like Makka become Makki i.e the one of makkah (meaning resident of makkah)
And many pther exaples. its basic Arabic grammer.
Masha Allah, Sheikh Asrar Rashid
Surah Jinn.
20. Qul innama adAAoo rabbee wala oshriku bihi ahadan
Keh do Mai sirf Allah he ko pukarta hu, aur Uske sath kisi ko shareek nahi krta