As a non brit/Non irish, I had only heard of the Troubles and read a few articles here and there for the love of history , but this !!!! OMG such a frightening and dark time... leaves one wondering what all the violence finally lead to... with all the living members of the dead still looking for a glimpse of justice. Great series by the BBC!!!
I'm English and I remember this was all on the TV when I was little. It was pretty scary. A friend of mine was in the army and he served in Northern Ireland, but it had a really bad effect on him and he killed himself a few years after he left. Ireland has a crazy history with the English going back hundreds of years en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster There's still a lot of trouble over there but nowhere near as bad as it use to be 👍
How it didn’t break out into full scale civil war is a miracle. I mean, it was dangerous but we went on with our lives: went to school, work, the beach, grocery shopping, heavy metal concerts when they came. But you had to careful where you were and look over your shoulder. Everyone was a target. My friends and I were both catholic and Protestant and carved out a little utopia amid the violence and played music, smoked weed, got drunk. I may write a book about it for my kids
@@wavydavy9816 yeah davy. Belfast is pretty bad. No way the peace walls can come down yet. The areas are still angry and bitter. It’ll take another generation. Maybe more. The answer is education and economic opportunity
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast will take to all the conflict generations die out and still probably add on another 30 years before the walls come down.....the walls in people's minds have to be broken down first
I’m a Catholic who grew up in Lisburn 1970-2000 then emigrated. This is an unbelievable look at the troubles. There’s a mountain of stuff not covered but I understand they can’t cover everything
Hell they could it could run several seasons tons of shite to cover,some thinking don't come to me. Id have liked to see seen families today,how they still coming to terms,innocent kids and people caught up in the troubles.
@@bloodhound9638 I'm sorry I don't know your context. I'm of Yemeni background myself so I really found this series helpful in highlighting the ideological flaws present in ongoing conflicts such as the one we have in Yemen now.
@Joseph Boland the RUC, brithish army were the biggest terrorists, Giving names of innocent people who were to be killed, over what church they went 2..
@Joseph Boland if that is the way you see it both were terrorists,but the uda/uff, Ira/inla and the brit establishment all say it was a war that no one could win!yes that's right the brits themselves say they could not defeat the ira and vice versa!
@Joseph Boland im not🤔🤔im only saying 'dirty' things happen in all wars,weather it is in Palestine,Vietnam,north South sudan,Yemen i could go on,do you think that these people all abide by the so-called rules of engagement,atrocities happen everywhere!!
Poor little thing puttin slices of her birthday cake in to her dead bros coffins absolutely heartbreaking I’m sure those people were never the same again
Incredible how such a terrible troubling civil conflict could go on for so long in modern times in such a beautiful country to such wonderful friendly people hope it never happens again. I am a British and Australian citizen.
We never asked for it by any means, when your country is invaded and we fight back we are called terrorists...we were up against the might of the British empire and hadn't the resources to wage a full scale war... guerrilla tact's had to be used
@@jackietreehorn5561 to make out that it’s goodies v baddies is both irresponsible and ignorant. There’s blood on both sides hands. Too many innocent lives lost.
@@sherlockgnomes8971 There isn't blood on both sides. The IRA waged an unnecessary war and the security forces tried to stop them. The IRA are ultimately responsible for the blood that was shed.
God bless the late John Hume. There was much more to that story of him breaking down at the funeral than was mentioned here at the end. Then again maybe that will be covered in more depth in the next episode!
All the leaders had a part without which peace couldn’t have happened. John Hume and Alec Reid had the right direction and brought others along. As much as I find Ian Paisley created so much discord, it is worth mentioning that unless he had changed his mind, but he troubles would have continued past 1998
That generation of loyalists was created by IRA violence. They were brutalized by countless bombings and shootings. They were probably 5 or 10 when the troubles started . That type of environment does not produce healthy human beings.
All the loyalist terrorists colluded with the royal Ulster constabulary and British intelligence sadly. They even helped target Catholics with information and keeping normal army patrols out of certain areas at certain times
@Fuk Joo Tube I know, it was a dirty horrible war with no honour on either side. As for been biased I don't think I am despite been 2 Para, I believe I'm a realist with probably more sympathy for the nationalistic cause. A lot of lads agreed that if they'd been Catholic Irish they'd have joined the IRA. Luckily I never had to do a tour over there amongst basically people who I could understand and certainly respected more than the politicians who sent me there. As for the IRA and the loyalists, fuck the pair of them
The troubles were tragic. The situation isn't perfect and the peace fragile, but I hope we never go back to the darkest of days for Northern Ireland and the UK.
Because he was in prison, his leader was a British agent who was set up and shot in jail, he used to drive him to meet them, Billy Wright the LVF leader
Excellent documentary. I’m Irish and all my life struggled to understand the culture of violence across Northern Ireland. This documentary really filed in many of the gaps. This was no conflict but protracted war. The Good Friday Agreement is by any international standards or precedence as remarkable achievement. The background is hello sky complex and there are no “good” actors on any side and especially at the government levels. My fear today is collective amnesia combined with the trashing about from Brexit. The NI people deserve peace and to determine their own futures.
Was not aware of the scale of the violence and barbarity involved. Truly horrific. But what a tremendous series put together by the BBC. Thank you for giving me a greater awareness.
When they’re talking about Billy Wright, and Lawrence Maguire, says in response to the conversations with Billy Wright, “just talked about killing” makes your blood run cold
Moral of the story here: DO NOT screw with British Intelligence, or the SAS. Looks like when they killed Mountbatten, the gloves came off and the brass knuckles came out.
Nope, East Tyrone and the Gibraltar three were anti-Gerry Adams, that's why they were killed (they were about to attempt an overthrow on him before being strangely sent to Gibraltar where they never came back)to The British Army also doctored the bullets that Adams was shot with to reduce their lethality and they rammed his attempted killers off the road and put them in jail. Mountbatten was set up because the news of what he was doing in Kincora was about to come out... You know about Mountbattens "love of children" don't you??
All I can say is the people of Belfast are pretty tough, hardened, as well as all of Northern Ireland. The ironic thing is, Ireland for generations had been fighting for independence, then they sign up to be part of the EU! Very independent.
Mor alike R.I.P too all who lost they're lives. Many brave men and women on both sides of this conflict paid the ultimate price and therefore in respect of what they fought for which in my opinion was the revengeful feeling from seeing they're friends and relatives laying on the ground dead. Taking away peoples pride I think is a suitable word or maybe honour when they've died either protecting or having been ordered to do something. Again R.I.P too all who lost they're lives.
Very sinister and difficult to comprehend.The whole conflict is so deep rooted touching every part of civilian life actually everyone’s life in every way.War in my mind is soldiers waving goodbye to loved ones and off to fight .This is different the enemy could be anywhere everywhere you just don’t know.The hitmen talk about entering someone’s home killing them like someone would talk about nipping to Asda for a bag of sugar like murder is a normal everyday thing how did civilian life slide to this.I struggle to accept that human beings are capable of these actions but it was probably still is a fact of life in Northern Ireland in reality anywhere in the world where there is political Religous economic difference and divisions.I hope people can live in peace without fear a prosperous happy life.
Ye should read about the atrocities that the black & Tan's were responsible for...Absolutely Disgusting maiming and killing of innocent Irish people who had a small farm house to their name but they ' The black & tans ' would torture them then burn their little farm house and make them watch and then they would hang the men and shoot the women and if their were children they would either shoot them too or just leave them their on their own...Absolute evil they were...!!
Gerard and Rory is one murder ill never forget the photo of the family wee Roisins birthday always wondered how she got on after that terrible night glad she became an amazing woman helping others
The officers who were working with Wright are the ones need brought to justice more than likely still within the police force the police feeding information and the army feeding information is madness to say the least Ireland has suffered bad at the hands of the brits
You forgot the best part of the Billy Wright 'King Rat' story, the bit where the INLA executed that piece of sh it in the Maze prison, ending his miserable existence. RIP to all innocent civilians murdered on all sides. Ultimately, the blood and guilt remains with the English establishment.
No, the blood and the guilt remains in the hands of those that took lives and ordered them taken. Don't try and be political and shift blame. They're all terrorists and deserve nothing but a black bag and a bullet, anyone who murders innocents for whatever reason. Victim complex or not. There is no excuse.
I served in the Conflict.... Many years ago I wrote a song called "The Informer" - here is a passage from it: And we think we fight for what is right It depends who`s side you´re on But who will dry your children´s tears When their Daddys dead and gone
Being from the states, but whose grandparents were all Irish Catholics born in Ireland, this will always break my heart that both sides are killing one another.
When talking about modern Ireland one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since..
But then again,why did the provos kill 8,what happened before then,dont just start there ffs.......yay need to go back tay the beggining.........not just the previous atrocity ffs.
terrible irony, such violence in such a beautiful country.....and amongst it all appears gerry adams with a big smile.....i think he actually enjoyed it all....the boring life as a plumber or pub owner just would never have appealed to him.....but death n destruction, bombs n funerals, and here he is smiling....he loved loved loved it
Wright broke away from the UVF in 1996 and formed his own splinter group called the LVF(Loyalist Volunteer Force) Their specific targets were always random civilians.
the amount of bombers and gun men from the IRA walking free and living free today is also an absolute shocking situation but you don't mention that do you...
This is such a horrifying story of how the imperial colonists turned the citizens of a country against each other for centuries. Divide and conquer, that ancient strategy goes & on. Just an American trying to learn some Irish history.
Trust me they didn't need any help in turning on each other, they still argue about stuff that happened In the 17th century with king Billy and the battle of the Boyne. Religion proving how base it truly is
Jesus that's rich coming from an American. The country built on the mass graves of its indigenous inhabitants. The country that for the last 100 years has fostered proxy wars in Vietnam, Angola, Afghanistan and countless other nations. The country that conveniently side stepped the question of its native population by murdering them to a man. Glass houses and Stones.
Lol I see so many people rabbit the same tired 'waaa imperialist colonials bad it's all their fault' it's such trash. No one forced these extremists to murder innocents on any side. Ireland lost its independence hundreds of years ago under feudal rule. Then regained it in imperial rule in the 20s. Terrorists on either side are not justified. They never are. There is no excuse for killing innocents and I'm sick of seeing people try to justify murder of innocents with "waah imperialism bad". No, slaughtering unarmed innocents indiscriminately is bad, and what is clearly what's going on here.
Can people on here from both sides of the political spectrum arguing which side was worse just shut the fuck up, and accept that senseless acts of both sides have caused enough of anguish. I just pray the violence never returns. RIP to all the innocent victims, what a terrible waste of life.
No I can't accept that, anymore than I could accept that there were senseless acts of violence by both sides in WW2. In WW2 the allies were the good guys and the nazis were the bad guys. The former behaved incomparably better morally than the latter and were morally in the right, despite the bad things they did. Likewise during the troubles the British forces were the good guys and the IRA were the bad guys. The former behaved much better than the latter and were morally in the right.
@@damius1980 No not like a loyalist. I don't support loyalism I'm saying that there would be violence if Britain withdrew from NI that's why Britain's still there.
A sad history but must say have no pity for ira or loyalist terrorists taken out but innocent people, that's beyond bad. Glad it's nearly past except for minorities on 2 sides.
This is the 6th episode... zero comments for the first 4 episodes where the IRA bombed and killed many... This episode and th elast epsiode focuses on the Northern Irish and Brits... Suddenly comments of outrage... This episode intrerviews many who were directly affected by violence.... But this did not happen in other epsiodes.... no interviews with English on the main land speaking about being bombed... Suddenly there are interviews showing the human damage... Where were the interviews focusing on the victims of the IRA? This really isn't balanced at all. Comments below are complaining about loyalist gunman being interviewed.... Did you see previous episodes? IRA gunmen laughing about murder...A preist laughing aout using collecting money from a church to buy weapons!!! Where were the comments for these episodes??????
@@caoimhinrafferty1326 Republicans shouldn't have been targeting anyone. Loyalist violence was a response to republican violence. As terrible as the loyalist paramilitaries were they would not have existed without the IRA.
@@jonoessex I suggest you read history lad. Loyalists formally declared war on the ira in mid 1960s, they killed the first officers and several civilians before pira took up arms. Besides the fact civil rights movement was suppressed and entire conflict could have been over in 1970s with sunningdale only loyalists couldnt face sharing ni with catholics.
@@caoimhinrafferty1326 Yes they did declare war on the IRA in the mid 60's and that was before the PIRA but not the IRA as such. The civil rights movement was not suppressed and sunningdale if it had not been opposed by loyalists would not have stopped the IRA campaign.
watched the whole series--my head still hurts---cant understand how catholics and protestants bear so much hate in the name of God-call me simplistic-but i dont and wont ever get it
The British wanted this conflict,to demonstrate to other potential "rabble rousers" in far flung British enclaves that any dissent will be answered with military force,didn't work out to well did it?God bless all the Irish nationals killed in that bloody struggle,from whatever side of the divide their loyalties lay.
This conflict started in earnest in 1969, when the British Empire had gone for good - more than a decade earlier. So your basic assumption about the 'rabble rousers' is pointless.
@@2msvalkyrie529 The British army kill count in the province far exceeds that of any paramilitary group,although you are right, kids being murdered is completely unacceptable
Ulsterfication = to incite a secterian genocidal conflict between unionist loyalist vs republican sen fenn ? It didn't work, thank you wee Gusty & wee Gerard they saw through Whitehall/Westminster, ever prime minister/toaschoic from the 1916 uprising till Blair are guilty of genocide that's why it's such an unfortunate " Hot Potato," old bean.
41:45 Personally, I’m always very open and feel very warm towards random people coming up to me asking me the very charged questions 41:49 besides the obvious your bait was dog shit. You’re just Chucked a big hook in the water and swung it around dramatically
This thing was fought like any other successful counter-insurgency. It's a nasty dirty business, and not for the faint of heart; but today, N. Ireland's at peace and prospering.
To paraphrase Mr Adams: No matter how long we keep fighting, we're still gonna have to come back to the table. Unless you have read Tim Pat Coogan's THE IRA, you wouldn't have read the original quote. But I have no doubt that he said similar things elsewhere.
The IRA "Priest" Patrick Ryan was just as evil. In an interview on one of these episodes- he is 90 years old and says his only regret was that he didn't kill more people..
Being of neither factions, i grew up with the idea that the media sold me, of a violent IRA. This whole series sure showed me Loyalists were far worse homicidal psychopats, and traitorous ones at that....
Clearly didn't watch all the episodes, the interview with the so called man of God (Priest) Patrick Ryan when he was 90 years old saying his only regret was that he didn't kill more people..
The ra committed some atrocities, but didn't have the intention of ever killing civillians deliberately. Kingsmill, the obvious example, was simply a war crime, carried out by rogue members and not sanctioned by leadership, at the time, they were on ceasefire.
An excellent series. May those dark days never return.
Sadly thanks to the scum who voted brexit, these days may return.
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@@paulwaring677 That's the risk. Those in government have been totally reckless when it comes to NI.
@@paulwaring677 Fuck the Eu.
What an amazing series. I’m hooked. Thank you for uploading.
The tears of the mothers should be enough for us all to call a day on this sort of wicked conflict.
As a non brit/Non irish, I had only heard of the Troubles and read a few articles here and there for the love of history , but this !!!! OMG such a frightening and dark time... leaves one wondering what all the violence finally lead to... with all the living members of the dead still looking for a glimpse of justice. Great series by the BBC!!!
I'm English and I remember this was all on the TV when I was little. It was pretty scary. A friend of mine was in the army and he served in Northern Ireland, but it had a really bad effect on him and he killed himself a few years after he left.
Ireland has a crazy history with the English going back hundreds of years en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster
There's still a lot of trouble over there but nowhere near as bad as it use to be 👍
How it didn’t break out into full scale civil war is a miracle. I mean, it was dangerous but we went on with our lives: went to school, work, the beach, grocery shopping, heavy metal concerts when they came. But you had to careful where you were and look over your shoulder. Everyone was a target. My friends and I were both catholic and Protestant and carved out a little utopia amid the violence and played music, smoked weed, got drunk. I may write a book about it for my kids
@@wavydavy9816 yeah davy. Belfast is pretty bad. No way the peace walls can come down yet. The areas are still angry and bitter. It’ll take another generation. Maybe more. The answer is education and economic opportunity
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast will take to all the conflict generations die out and still probably add on another 30 years before the walls come down.....the walls in people's minds have to be broken down first
@@TheNoSuchThingPodcastcould you write a book about it and publish? I’d love to read about it from your perspective. It sounds fascinating.
A superb examination of a painful history. My heartfelt thanks to the BBC for this treasure-trove of "those days" in NI.
Lovely. Nice to see part 6. Thanks for your hard work.
Lovely? Are you fucking crazy?
I’m a Catholic who grew up in Lisburn 1970-2000 then emigrated. This is an unbelievable look at the troubles. There’s a mountain of stuff not covered but I understand they can’t cover everything
It's literally the 6th episode in a 7 episode series on the Troubles. Hardly takes a rocket scientist to see the title "Episode 6" 🫠
Can't fit 30 years into 7 hours
Hell they could it could run several seasons tons of shite to cover,some thinking don't come to me.
Id have liked to see seen families today,how they still coming to terms,innocent kids and people caught up in the troubles.
@@littlewren5775 north of Ireland has the biggest issue of prescription drugs in UK and Ireland generational trauma is still a thing
Anyone interested is the human stories behind this dark period should watch the entire series. A valuable historical document.
Thanks for doing a great job making this important show available to ex-pats worldwide. Much appreciated mate.
The ones that colluded with the Loyalists?
@@bloodhound9638 I'm sorry I don't know your context. I'm of Yemeni background myself so I really found this series helpful in highlighting the ideological flaws present in ongoing conflicts such as the one we have in Yemen now.
RIP to all those who died in the conflict, whatever side they were on
@Joseph Boland the RUC, brithish army were the biggest terrorists, Giving names of innocent people who were to be killed, over what church they went 2..
They are still dying. No end to the killing and the shootings... Media only report a fraction of it
@Joseph Boland if that is the way you see it both were terrorists,but the uda/uff, Ira/inla and the brit establishment all say it was a war that no one could win!yes that's right the brits themselves say they could not defeat the ira and vice versa!
@Joseph Boland what war is not dirty!🤔
@Joseph Boland im not🤔🤔im only saying 'dirty' things happen in all wars,weather it is in Palestine,Vietnam,north South sudan,Yemen i could go on,do you think that these people all abide by the so-called rules of engagement,atrocities happen everywhere!!
11:55 fun fact that Glass office you see them sitting in was built by me😁 and a man called Tony. What a awesome job 👍 if I do say so myself 😂
Poor little thing puttin slices of her birthday cake in to her dead bros coffins absolutely heartbreaking I’m sure those people were never the same again
indeed and those 2 poor children who were blown up and died in the bombing of the fish shop. I bet their families were never the same either
It is heartbreaking to think how much suffering was inflicted on the innocent.
@@dakov2498 IRA UVF UDA INLA British Army/Security Forces not decent lot among theses tramps
As one of the people said involved in the violence...." waste of time... waste of life". So true.
Good man ... much thx for the upload
Incredible how such a terrible troubling civil conflict could go on for so long in modern times in such a beautiful country to such wonderful friendly people hope it never happens again. I am a British and Australian citizen.
We never asked for it by any means, when your country is invaded and we fight back we are called terrorists...we were up against the might of the British empire and hadn't the resources to wage a full scale war... guerrilla tact's had to be used
It was never a civil conflict.
This is what imperialism inevitably brings!!!
@@jackietreehorn5561 to make out that it’s goodies v baddies is both irresponsible and ignorant. There’s blood on both sides hands. Too many innocent lives lost.
@@sherlockgnomes8971 There isn't blood on both sides. The IRA waged an unnecessary war and the security forces tried to stop them. The IRA are ultimately responsible for the blood that was shed.
Well now you have Brexit
God bless the late John Hume. There was much more to that story of him breaking down at the funeral than was mentioned here at the end. Then again maybe that will be covered in more depth in the next episode!
John Hume was the best of them. He was worth 1000 times more than the rest of them put together, including Brits/Republicans/Loyalists/Unionists.
RIP - Got the news of his passing while I was over here in Australia. Cried my eyes out. A legend. We owe him so much at home.
@@musashidanmcgrath Fucking nonsense. It was the bullet and the bomb that brought any progress for Irish people in the north
All the leaders had a part without which peace couldn’t have happened. John Hume and Alec Reid had the right direction and brought others along. As much as I find Ian Paisley created so much discord, it is worth mentioning that unless he had changed his mind, but he troubles would have continued past 1998
His sons were bigoted little arseholes as children, he seemed nice though.
Great reporting peace to all families that lost members to the troubles
I cannot get over how icy Lawrence Maguire’s demeanor is as he describes murders in which he was involved.
He's vile
That generation of loyalists was created by IRA violence. They were brutalized by countless bombings and shootings. They were probably 5 or 10 when the troubles started . That type of environment does not produce healthy human beings.
He was fighting the Ida terrorists
he really was a nice guy his back was against the wall
@@normansmith9151 wonder if he'll tell the judge that since they scooped him up for some other cases recently.
The first thing I thought when I heard the nickname”King Rat”, ..... ok this dude was cooperating with authorities...
All the loyalist terrorists colluded with the royal Ulster constabulary and British intelligence sadly. They even helped target Catholics with information and keeping normal army patrols out of certain areas at certain times
Why wouldn’t you cooperate when you have the same enemy lol
@Fuk Joo Tube I know, it was a dirty horrible war with no honour on either side. As for been biased I don't think I am despite been 2 Para, I believe I'm a realist with probably more sympathy for the nationalistic cause. A lot of lads agreed that if they'd been Catholic Irish they'd have joined the IRA. Luckily I never had to do a tour over there amongst basically people who I could understand and certainly respected more than the politicians who sent me there. As for the IRA and the loyalists, fuck the pair of them
Even in jail loyalist murderers not safe! Good riddance “king rat”
@D88111 By same enemy do you mean innocent catholics?
All il say is, it was all very terrifying as a child to grow in. U don't realise the affect its all had on u until your older
The troubles were tragic. The situation isn't perfect and the peace fragile, but I hope we never go back to the darkest of days for Northern Ireland and the UK.
Thank god for the Good Friday Agreement. Otherwise we would still be in those dark days.
Indeed. Let us all hope that those dark and terrible days never come back.
The man who’s killed 5 and talks about it so openly is really eye opening ,.
Better yet, how is HE still alive
Because he was in prison, his leader was a British agent who was set up and shot in jail, he used to drive him to meet them, Billy Wright the LVF leader
Excellent documentary. I’m Irish and all my life struggled to understand the culture of violence across Northern Ireland. This documentary really filed in many of the gaps. This was no conflict but protracted war.
The Good Friday Agreement is by any international standards or precedence as remarkable achievement. The background is hello sky complex and there are no “good” actors on any side and especially at the government levels.
My fear today is collective amnesia combined with the trashing about from Brexit. The NI people deserve peace and to determine their own futures.
Thank Senator John Mitchell for getting the GFA out of the rabbit hole of decommissioning.
Was not aware of the scale of the violence and barbarity involved. Truly horrific. But what a tremendous series put together by the BBC. Thank you for giving me a greater awareness.
On a lighter note, I'd like that narrator to never ever shut up
When they’re talking about Billy Wright, and Lawrence Maguire, says in response to the conversations with Billy Wright, “just talked about killing” makes your blood run cold
Maguire needs to be gone.
Rat was horrible basterd plus the British soldiers, UVF butcherd innocent Republican Families
@Caroline what in gods name are you bumbling about ? You caroline stood against nobody.
Billy Wright makes me ashamed to share his name.
His son is called stephen
Troubles in Ireland, eta in Spain, years of lead in Italy, raf in Germany.... Those were terrible times
Moral of the story here: DO NOT screw with British Intelligence, or the SAS. Looks like when they killed Mountbatten, the gloves came off and the brass knuckles came out.
The gloves were off for them since the 1700s...the Brits were bullies and bullies are just that until they come up against an equal force
100%
😂😂 FFS.
Nope, East Tyrone and the Gibraltar three were anti-Gerry Adams, that's why they were killed (they were about to attempt an overthrow on him before being strangely sent to Gibraltar where they never came back)to
The British Army also doctored the bullets that Adams was shot with to reduce their lethality and they rammed his attempted killers off the road and put them in jail.
Mountbatten was set up because the news of what he was doing in Kincora was about to come out... You know about Mountbattens "love of children" don't you??
Oh and East Tyrone attacked back literally a week later, and kept attacking
fantastic watch,thank you for upload
All I can say is the people of Belfast are pretty tough, hardened, as well as all of Northern Ireland. The ironic thing is, Ireland for generations had been fighting for independence, then they sign up to be part of the EU! Very independent.
lol nice one
@@cameronhesketh6814 EU funding transformed the north but now id say leave
Strip away all the flags, banners and pomp and all you have is base violence, some abetted by the State. RIP to all innocent victims of both sides.
British should do stop listening to Sinn Féin and DUP Irish Republican and Ulster Loyalists paramilitaries.
@@RobertK1993 pn
@@RobertK1993 You really need to educate yourself.
@@paolom.6011 completely agree. Utterly stupid comment by someone that hasnt a clue what they are commenting on
Mor alike R.I.P too all who lost they're lives. Many brave men and women on both sides of this conflict paid the ultimate price and therefore in respect of what they fought for which in my opinion was the revengeful feeling from seeing they're friends and relatives laying on the ground dead. Taking away peoples pride I think is a suitable word or maybe honour when they've died either protecting or having been ordered to do something. Again R.I.P too all who lost they're lives.
Notice how he said the gun went off and she ended up dead. Apparently he thinks he can convince others that the gun acted on its own
lol how does virgin girls be mothers esp catholic ones lol
Very sinister and difficult to comprehend.The whole conflict is so deep rooted touching every part of civilian life actually everyone’s life in every way.War in my mind is soldiers waving goodbye to loved ones and off to fight .This is different the enemy could be anywhere everywhere you just don’t know.The hitmen talk about entering someone’s home killing them like someone would talk about nipping to Asda for a bag of sugar like murder is a normal everyday thing how did civilian life slide to this.I struggle to accept that human beings are capable of these actions but it was probably still is a fact of life in Northern Ireland in reality anywhere in the world where there is political Religous economic difference and divisions.I hope people can live in peace without fear a prosperous happy life.
Ye should read about the atrocities that the black & Tan's were responsible for...Absolutely Disgusting maiming and killing of innocent Irish people who had a small farm house to their name but they ' The black & tans ' would torture them then burn their little farm house and make them watch and then they would hang the men and shoot the women and if their were children they would either shoot them too or just leave them their on their own...Absolute evil they were...!!
Many senior figures including politicians know the identity of
the Birmingham pub bombers .? Why are they being protected ?
Gerard and Rory is one murder ill never forget the photo of the family wee Roisins birthday always wondered how she got on after that terrible night glad she became an amazing woman helping others
"iN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME" An obscene phrase, formula.
also phrases like "they died" rather than "i killed them". still doesnt accept responsibility
State murder ignored by media.
Hume was a titan in his time. Given the context l, he was immensely courageous to dream of peace.
Never lay your life down for your beliefs....after all you could be wrong.
Maybe. But, that would only be your own life. More importantly, never take the life of another for your beliefs ........ surely? 🤔
The officers who were working with Wright are the ones need brought to justice more than likely still within the police force the police feeding information and the army feeding information is madness to say the least Ireland has suffered bad at the hands of the brits
takes 2to tango
What??? It was more like 3 paramilitaries, supported by the army the police and the intelligence corps vs occupied minority with 2 paramilitaries 😂😂
Excellent documentary spoiled by silly "investigative jurno uses glass display board to plot cases" like scenes.
You forgot the best part of the Billy Wright 'King Rat' story, the bit where the INLA executed that piece of sh it in the Maze prison, ending his miserable existence. RIP to all innocent civilians murdered on all sides. Ultimately, the blood and guilt remains with the English establishment.
They wouldn’t want to add that part lol, because then they would have to talk about the fact that it was Westminster that gave the order to kill billy
No, the blood and the guilt remains in the hands of those that took lives and ordered them taken. Don't try and be political and shift blame. They're all terrorists and deserve nothing but a black bag and a bullet, anyone who murders innocents for whatever reason. Victim complex or not. There is no excuse.
Seems to me like the whole damn island is full of rats.
I served in the Conflict....
Many years ago I wrote a song called "The Informer" - here is a passage from it:
And we think we fight for what is right
It depends who`s side you´re on
But who will dry your children´s tears
When their Daddys dead and gone
Wright was a evil
Being from the states, but whose grandparents were all Irish Catholics born in Ireland, this will always break my heart that both sides are killing one another.
Now they're getting one another high. The "successors" to the PIRA and UDA are drug dealing criminals.
Respect to you but thousands of dumgmb I'll informed Americans funded the violence
When talking about modern Ireland one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since..
The Penal laws weren't rescinded until the 1820s - how did the Irish have their rights back if the couldn't have basic laws to protect them?
@@loulou2817 most of the Penal Laws were repealed by Grattan’s Irish Parliament in the 1790s: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Relief_Act_1791
Majority of the united Irishmen rebellion in 1792 were protestants and founding fathers of replicanism
No connections to what Sean McPhilmy asserts in his book The Committee?
Rest in peace Gerald n Rory cairn pure heartbreaking 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
RIP to the Kingsmill massacre victims
and everyone else
@@sherlockgnomes8971I'm sure they would appreciate you coming in here using their deaths to score points.
Can't help themselves mate, loyalists invented whataboutery
doesnt matter if my bro or mother was connected.. if i aint.. that says enough
Does anyone know what the footage @2.03 is from?
Shankhill rd
Often wars are either political and or religious among other things. I feel that the troubles walk the fine line between both.
But then again,why did the provos kill 8,what happened before then,dont just start there ffs.......yay need to go back tay the beggining.........not just the previous atrocity ffs.
Tribalism at its worst.
terrible irony, such violence in such a beautiful country.....and amongst it all appears gerry adams with a big smile.....i think he actually enjoyed it all....the boring life as a plumber or pub owner just would never have appealed to him.....but death n destruction, bombs n funerals, and here he is smiling....he loved loved loved it
He’s a Hamas loving nihilistic sociopath …and a snitch 🤫
Was billy wright and johnny adair in the same organisation ? Just few years apart ?
Billy Wright was Mid Ulster UVF, Johnny Adair was West Belfast UFF
@@Iaksones thanks .interesting era
Wright broke away from the UVF in 1996 and formed his own splinter group called the LVF(Loyalist Volunteer Force) Their specific targets were always random civilians.
@@robertbarr9347 Mate, you don't know what you're talking about. Did the IRA murder civilians? Yes. Is your statement nonsense? Yes.
yes and no adairs unit was based in west belfast wrights was in portadown
The words "believed to be" come up quite often in this series.
Police Ombudsman totally useless.
Let''s,find the bastards that killed the Parents of Paddy Fox even though it's more than 20 years on..
Well, you just watched them in person over the last hour of this documentary.
the amount of bombers and gun men from the IRA walking free and living free today is also an absolute shocking situation but you don't mention that do you...
@@sherlockgnomes8971 Can't be much of a detective you, cause Nolans never done chatting about it
@@padraigodeorain9966 Go do something then, you know where Oliver is lol. Stop being a keyboard provo
and an excellent job of it they did too, shame it wasnt more
This is such a horrifying story of how the imperial colonists turned the citizens of a country against each other for centuries. Divide and conquer, that ancient strategy goes & on.
Just an American trying to learn some Irish history.
Do you mean the same as the USA.
Trust me they didn't need any help in turning on each other, they still argue about stuff that happened In the 17th century with king Billy and the battle of the Boyne. Religion proving how base it truly is
@@robdean704 religion (cults) is cause of most wars.
Jesus that's rich coming from an American. The country built on the mass graves of its indigenous inhabitants. The country that for the last 100 years has fostered proxy wars in Vietnam, Angola, Afghanistan and countless other nations. The country that conveniently side stepped the question of its native population by murdering them to a man.
Glass houses and Stones.
Lol I see so many people rabbit the same tired 'waaa imperialist colonials bad it's all their fault' it's such trash. No one forced these extremists to murder innocents on any side. Ireland lost its independence hundreds of years ago under feudal rule. Then regained it in imperial rule in the 20s. Terrorists on either side are not justified. They never are. There is no excuse for killing innocents and I'm sick of seeing people try to justify murder of innocents with "waah imperialism bad". No, slaughtering unarmed innocents indiscriminately is bad, and what is clearly what's going on here.
Force Research Unit ran the operations on orders from ministers in the British Government cabinets
RIP to the Enniskillen massscre victims
And the loughinsland victims
A find Lawrence McGuire hard to belive for some reasons
Can people on here from both sides of the political spectrum arguing which side was worse just shut the fuck up, and accept that senseless acts of both sides have caused enough of anguish. I just pray the violence never returns. RIP to all the innocent victims, what a terrible waste of life.
No I can't accept that, anymore than I could accept that there were senseless acts of violence by both sides in WW2. In WW2 the allies were the good guys and the nazis were the bad guys. The former behaved incomparably better morally than the latter and were morally in the right, despite the bad things they did. Likewise during the troubles the British forces were the good guys and the IRA were the bad guys. The former behaved much better than the latter and were morally in the right.
@@jonoessex Morally they shouldn't have been there, so they were morally wrong aswell.
@@damius1980 Morally they should be there otherwise there will be violence.
@@jonoessex spoken like a loyalist
@@damius1980 No not like a loyalist. I don't support loyalism I'm saying that there would be violence if Britain withdrew from NI that's why Britain's still there.
A sad history but must say have no pity for ira or loyalist terrorists taken out but innocent people, that's beyond bad. Glad it's nearly past except for minorities on 2 sides.
easy to say all this when 2 volunteers are dead
This is the 6th episode... zero comments for the first 4 episodes where the IRA bombed and killed many... This episode and th elast epsiode focuses on the Northern Irish and Brits... Suddenly comments of outrage... This episode intrerviews many who were directly affected by violence.... But this did not happen in other epsiodes.... no interviews with English on the main land speaking about being bombed... Suddenly there are interviews showing the human damage... Where were the interviews focusing on the victims of the IRA? This really isn't balanced at all. Comments below are complaining about loyalist gunman being interviewed.... Did you see previous episodes? IRA gunmen laughing about murder...A preist laughing aout using collecting money from a church to buy weapons!!! Where were the comments for these episodes??????
@@caoimhinrafferty1326 Republicans shouldn't have been targeting anyone. Loyalist violence was a response to republican violence. As terrible as the loyalist paramilitaries were they would not have existed without the IRA.
@@jonoessex I suggest you read history lad. Loyalists formally declared war on the ira in mid 1960s, they killed the first officers and several civilians before pira took up arms. Besides the fact civil rights movement was suppressed and entire conflict could have been over in 1970s with sunningdale only loyalists couldnt face sharing ni with catholics.
@@caoimhinrafferty1326 Yes they did declare war on the IRA in the mid 60's and that was before the PIRA but not the IRA as such. The civil rights movement was not suppressed and sunningdale if it had not been opposed by loyalists would not have stopped the IRA campaign.
your right bro when the scum run scared
@@caoimhinrafferty1326 pira killed more catholics than the British army and uda combined during the troubles
Who calls the bookies the beting shop lol
How come thire got away from some thing that bad.
Any Taig (Catholic) will do….was a common loyalist expression.
and maybe the gaa should be investigated
Be the Best 🇬🇧
watched the whole series--my head still hurts---cant understand how catholics and protestants bear so much hate in the name of God-call me simplistic-but i dont and wont ever get it
It's nothing got to do with religion
If you watched the whole series and that's what you took from it then you need to watch it again
Nothing to do with religion!
@@ttfoley8127 not all but some clearly is.
REV IAN PAISLEY stirred up HATREDS.
Beautiful girl is Roisin
Why
Is Johnny Adair now living in Canada?
No west of scotland!!
Wondering that too, caught the maple leaf.
No he is in Scotland, we will look after him
Scotland ya Fool...
@@markbrave you riding him or what?
Planters go home
Wer here to stay mate 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@dmccutcheon7753 Hope so, mate. My father's family are descendants of you lot. 🇮🇪🇺🇲
Adair is a hero in his own sitting room! :-)
he had ballsto wear a celtic shirt and go into republican areas
@@normansmith9151refers to himself in the third person, a legend in his own head
@@jackietreehorn5561 dont forget to sign up for hamas as your country signed them up cowards and runners lol wouldnt want your help in a war lol
like the ira terrorists terror stopped when the sas came knockin
@@normansmith9151 terrible times indeed but hardly stopped when the sas were deployed in the early 70s and went on for another 30 years
The British wanted this conflict,to demonstrate to other potential "rabble rousers" in far flung British enclaves that any dissent will be answered with military force,didn't work out to well did it?God bless all the Irish nationals killed in that bloody struggle,from whatever side of the divide their loyalties lay.
This conflict started in earnest in 1969, when the British Empire had gone for good - more than a decade earlier. So your basic assumption about the 'rabble rousers' is pointless.
This assumption makes no sense when considering that the British Empire was almost wholly dismantled by the 60s.
Warrington ? 2 kids ? Yeah...real heroes .
@@2msvalkyrie529 The British army kill count in the province far exceeds that of any paramilitary group,although you are right, kids being murdered is completely unacceptable
Ulster Scots fall for sectarian card British government pull very unintelligent
Ulsterisation
Ulsterfication = to incite a secterian genocidal conflict between unionist loyalist vs republican sen fenn ? It didn't work, thank you wee Gusty & wee Gerard they saw through Whitehall/Westminster, ever prime minister/toaschoic from the 1916 uprising till Blair are guilty of genocide that's why it's such an unfortunate
" Hot Potato," old bean.
41:45 Personally, I’m always very open and feel very warm towards random people coming up to me asking me the very charged questions
41:49 besides the obvious your bait was dog shit. You’re just Chucked a big hook in the water and swung it around dramatically
Will rhey ever be peace
Somethings u can never forgive or forget the atrocious they put my peole through 🇮🇪
Mr oliver
This thing was fought like any other successful counter-insurgency. It's a nasty dirty business, and not for the faint of heart; but today, N. Ireland's at peace and prospering.
Returning the Serve actually worked.
Only it really didn’t
To paraphrase Mr Adams: No matter how long we keep fighting, we're still gonna have to come back to the table.
Unless you have read Tim Pat Coogan's THE IRA, you wouldn't have read the original quote. But I have no doubt that he said similar things elsewhere.
Journalist is abs gorgeous
Hope the dirty cowards are watching this. Shame.
What a lovely family.
That poor woman 😢.
no matter what peace process we will never forgive ever
we wont either
Start at episode one please
Slugger O’Toole’s channel has the first 5 episodes
roughly 27 mins in,, that fella is a physcopath if ever i saw one,, no empathy what so ever!!!
The IRA "Priest" Patrick Ryan was just as evil. In an interview on one of these episodes- he is 90 years old and says his only regret was that he didn't kill more people..
Psychopaths tend to get into positions of power
Maybe look closer to home...
L. Maguire: albino toad, never sees the sun.
And eyes like pissholes in the snow
Sean Kelly springs to mind
@@edwardogrady6587 lmfaooooooo 😭😭😂
live in peace big lawrenence
Being of neither factions, i grew up with the idea that the media sold me, of a violent IRA. This whole series sure showed me Loyalists were far worse homicidal psychopats, and traitorous ones at that....
Clearly didn't watch all the episodes, the interview with the so called man of God (Priest) Patrick Ryan when he was 90 years old saying his only regret was that he didn't kill more people..
@@sherlockgnomes8971sure wasn't the loyalist motto for god and ulster
The ra committed some atrocities, but didn't have the intention of ever killing civillians deliberately. Kingsmill, the obvious example, was simply a war crime, carried out by rogue members and not sanctioned by leadership, at the time, they were on ceasefire.
@@sherlockgnomes8971 i sure did, and i maintain my stance.... Loyalists were far more vicious, and still ARE for that matter..
@@miguelteixeira4134they don't want to move on
The sas killed the east Tyrone Brigade no the loyalists facts🇮🇪32
Shame sam.....
Poor cairns family