This $1000 Cinema Camera Shoots 4K RAW VIDEO Externally!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- This Sony FS700 Cinema Camera can shoot raw video in 4K up to 120 and more! Let's see how this 8 year old video beast holds up today. My Camera Guides: academy.dslrvideoshooter.com
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
0:43 Camera Overview
4:23 Record Modes
6:03 Slow Motion
7:19 FS700 vs a6600
9:36 Final Recommendations
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I'm really enjoying this series, Caleb! Great stuff. 👍🤓
Shuddup Gerald...jk lol
Thanks Gerald! That means a lot!
agreed!!
Top 10 Anime cross-overs
I agree ☝🏽
...and I thought I was slow at getting my reviews out! :)
*Queue Pokémon Battle song*
A wild Philip Bloom has appeared!
Why are you binge watching everything on TH-cam
Lol no sir youre still the King 😁
Hahaha... You sold me on this camera back in 2012! Believe it or not, I still have one of the 1st. Might dust it off and take it for a spin!
Why you would buy this and not zcam e2C ,witch is 800$ www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1496974-REG/z_cam_z_cam_e2c_e2c_professional_4k_cinematic.html
FS700 has been my main camera for slow motion footage for a lot of years. Great camera.
Is the 960 fps at 480p? .. ..
Avchd is phased out in some consumer/prosumer sony alpha cameras. Makes me think that this codec, alongside with mpeg2 will soon be obsolete.
@@srijonmondal8842 Hard to say exactly what it is because it's written as a 1080 file. Probably it's recorded at 480 or even 360
@@Nighthawkinlight I just looked at some footage I shot (same setup, FS700 via Shogun Inferno) at approx 400fps or 480fps and it looks crisp even though I am aware there must be line skipping.
@@qtben17 with external recording this issue is mute.
I don’t know about everyone else but I’ve always preferred operating a “boxy” cinema camera. I love all the weight and the form factor. Maybe it’s just me but it feels so ergonomic
Fs700 sellers when Caleb Pike releases this video: **stonks** 📈
I've tried to sell mine for years and now at $1000... its just worth keeping and I've been using it for my TH-cam Channel videos.
I got mine to sell but for 1000$ I prefer to keep it
@@johnwelson4789 yes, just the high speed functiosn alone are worth it (and it can do 480fps which wasn't mentioned in the video).
@@EmberSkyMedia He mentioned the 960fps option, which is its highest frame rate. He didn't bother showing any footage over 240fps though as all of the options greater than 240fps require big resolution drops.
Timestamp with the overview of frame rate options: 0:54
@@JeremiahBostwick 960fps is very unusable for film, but 480fps in good light is still usable (IMHO)
I REALLY love this series! Absolutely brilliant idea. The camera market is very good at making us feel like we NEED the newest of the newest but you just killed it here! I am so thankful!
This is my favorite series to watch on TH-cam. Please keep them coming!
eBay seller’s everywhere are thanking you 🎥
1:23 ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!!?!? Damn that's a beautiful image from a camera that is 8 years old.....i absolutely love this series Caleb! Thank you!
"I would expect it to get cheaper over time" someone forgot the effect their videos have ;)
lmao, remember back when you recommended that cheap can'tlink?
@@8lec_R bruh do you follow this guy to shit talk him
I am late to this video and ebay listings for this camera are $2300 and up now. Wow. You were right.
Yup. Laughed at that also.
@@droidbait8708 umm, Where did you get that idea from. No I'm not shit talking
This is so great! I've had my FS700 since 2013 and have really learned to hate it BUT watching this made me fall in love all over again!
Top guy, always delivering high-quality stuff. Much appreciated!. Thanks
I've been using the FS700 since it was new. It is still my main camera all these years later and with an external recorder, the picture is still pretty awesome. This review is spot on pointing out the weight and the noise issues. Weight is a struggle but with the right exposure, the noise is pretty easy to mitigate. Alistair Chapman did a streaming episode with ProAVTV a few months back about the FS7m2 and he pointed out that every camera purchase is a business decision. I have a full calendar of bookings for filming and a list of happy clients so when I consider upgrading an FS7, FS5 or even the FX9 I have a hard time justifying the expense. I would love an FX9...I've watched the Philip Bloom movie TWICE but at $12,000 (after batteries, cards etc) I can't pull the trigger when the need just isn't there.....yet.
Noise yes but I also have the BMPCC6k and that thing is a light hog. Black Hole for light I feel like. I feel I get better results with the FS700 in low light.
Spot on! Wishing growth for 2022!
do you wanna sell your camera
I’m going to need you to stop making these videos and driving up the value of these cameras before I can buy one. Thanks! :)
😂 So sorry!
I was literally just thinking that lol
@@dslrvideoshooter Maybe release the video on Patreon first and don't reveal the name of the camera unless they're Patrons? Maybe a bad suggestion for me since I can't afford to support anyone on Patreon anyway lol
Lol... i was searching for this camera's review and price before this video, linus was showing this camera in one of his videos.
michael jimenez : I noticed the prices are hovering around $2,000 on eBay now.
So awesome you’re doing this . Keep them coming!
This is my favorite series on youtube right now! I love getting to see semi-vintage gear!
I’ve had this camera since it came out. It’s still my daily driver. Insane amount of value.
Bought one about a month ago after watching some of your videos and this camera is absolutely amazing. I needed to film a music video and I wanted to sell it after to make profit but... I ended up falling in love with it ahahah
Outstanding review that steps out of the norm. Love the whole concept of it and the execution.
Amazing video! I used to hate this camera back in the day but now I´m impressed. Great work Caleb!
I appreciate videos like this. It's like watching the 5D classic videos and right after the prices jack up even more because of said video. Lol
Thanks Caleb for tearing up my wallet.
They only go up for a few months and then people realize the downsides and the prices drop again.
Would love to see the image quality vs BMPCC 4K since they are similarly priced!
Great video Caleb, thank you!- Winter!
Me2
that has me wondering too
Thank you so much Caleb. Really excited to see what other cameras you talk about. I do remember when this came out.
Great info Caleb. Love your channel for recommendations like this.
Thank you for this review, I have same camera and recording 4K 12bit cinemaDNG with Atomos Shogun 7.
It’s very interesting to know this camera working better of Sony FS7 when you want recover overexposure but in low light Sony FS7 working much better. Just my problem with this camera is noise but you can used noise reduction at the post.
You can watch the videos I took with this camera in my TH-cam channel, keep in mind I used noise reduction most of the time.
this camera is amazing, i own one whit odyssey recorder, best kit ever.
Thanks for posting this vid: This is made it a no brainer which cinema camera to buy. Got my fs700r with a mov cam cage, and having a blast finding long term accessories, thanks to you and your channel.
I just picked one up last week, perfect timing for this video!
I remember using this beast for a music video in 2013 :) Half of our budget went for renting it for half a day! No RAW was available then, yet it was totally worth it for 200fps slow-mo shots alone.
is the music video available on youtube?
Yes! th-cam.com/video/DoZblqpNZT4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ukdWlpbEaocQzbvq
I'd love to see the FS700 vs the F3 apples to apples in terms of colour, low light, and other aesthetic categories, especially the F3 slog vs fs700 slog2, it'd be really interesting to be comparing the XD-CAM tech the FS700 uses to the CineAlta tech the F3 uses in regard to the aesthetic quality
I love these reviews. The idea of using what we already have is so good.
Great review! Thanks for doing this and covering major bases in about 10mins.
I still use this camera in combination with an Odyssey 7q as a B-Camera to my RED Epic Dragon. It holds up extremely well. I also am still hired regularly to use it as an A-Camera for all day run N gun shoots. It really needs an external recorder...but then it becomes a lockness monster of potential people have forgotten about.
Hey man I recently got this camera and was wondering what PP settings do you use with filming externally ? I am not getting the video quality that I thought I would get
@@dr7productions789 SLOG2. I used an Odyssey 7Q external recorder which downsampled the 4K RAW into 10bit Prores or allowed me to also film in RAW. In both flavors, I still have amazing results. I can't vouch for other recorders as I have not used them, but this combo is still used all the time when mixing with my RED in edits. If you look up "BURT REYNOLDS INRODUCES THE NEW BANDIT TRANS AM", I shot all that with the 7Q, FS700 and an original A7S paired with a 7Q as well. You can find that video on TH-cam. Any Trans Am video I made after that started including the RED and a lot of the shots are still this camera. You have to get into color grading though.
Ive been kinda hoping youd do a video on this camera bro😳
Love your vids rudy
bro i see you on so many of my favorite youtube channels. i didn't realize i'd stooped so low :/
John Tierney lmaoo
Rudy bro wyd here
Yeah oerson who make the guitar men is a camra nerd
Keep this concept going! We love it!
Love it. Great work again Caleb. Thank you.
I have always thought the FS700 was an underrated camera. Teamed up with the Atomos Inferno you have an epic and affordable cinema camera.
Sony’s older cameras are amazing. And their new ones like the siii and fx9 are also amazing. They’ve been killing it. The fact their old cameras are still so capable is awesome
Love this camera! I have 3 FS700R - perfect for interviews and always tripod mounted. Thanks for the reminder that it's still a very useful piece of gear.
Love this series! Thanks, Caleb!
As someone who shoots with this camera pretty much daily, it is still an amazing camera to work with even after all these years and all the advancement in Tech. It really does hold up well. Love the image quality of them and you kind of figure out how to get around the ergonimics. I like the boxy feel with the top screen when going handheld personally. Also, the internal AVCHD holds up really well to being pushed around for an 8-bit codec, it's by no means perfect but I use S-Log2 on internal HD all the time and get pretty killer results.
People dramatically underestimated this camera, but I didn't! If you shoot two stops over in S-Log2, this camera's image is glorious. In fact, we JUST NOW upgraded to the FX9 and I still miss features that the FS700 has (coupled with a Shogun Inferno). Only people that REALLY know how to expose and grade correctly can access the hidden treasures within. Most people were put off because they don't know about overexposure compensated LUT's etc. etc.
I am one of those people. Please help. Are you saying I just need to over expose 2 stops ?
@@dr7productions789 Yes, when shooting S-log !
I'm so glad you made a video going over this camera. I own this and have shot a number of awesome visuals with this camera. I also am running the Shogun 7 with this camera and recording ProRes 422 in 4K. I have also done recording with ProRes RAW as well, and the detail is insane. I have noticed once you jump into ProRes RAW you do encounter much noise if you do not have enough light hitting the sensor. A fast lens, with a speed booster should help in that regard, but something to be mindful of for anyone looking to test that out for themselves.
Grabs popcorn... love this series.
It's this year 2025. Caleb " This $500 Camera shoots 4K ProResRaw Externally"! ...and the last few FS700's get sold..
I used this camera for 8 years with the Odyssey7Q to get the raw. Even now after upgrading to the new Canon C300MK3, the difference isn't huge. This has to be the cheapest option for 4k raw uptown 120fps. Incredible for the price if you don't need AF
Is there 4 sec time limit for 4k 120 Raw to Shogun? Is the Raw 12-bit even at 4k 120?
Thanks.
@@BalaKrishna-bq5iz there is but its more than enough for most situations like fashion promos or b-roll clips
Hi Paul! You mentioned a while ago that you were planning to go for the Mavo LF. How come you decided against it? I personally prefer the image from the Mavo LF over the C300MK3. I feel like it’s closer to a Red.
Never had problems with this cameras AF at all. I use the native sony zoom that came with this camera
@@SpeckiEggs I did go and try out the Mavo LF. I wasn't a fan of how it was built and I couldn't imagine using it in a corporate environment. In terms of the image quality, the LF was a cleaner image than my FS700 but similar dynamic range. The C300MK3 I can really see a difference in the dynamic range and the skin tones and colours are just wonderful. The image is close the what I've got out of an Alexa Mini. One other thing I absolutely love is the autofocus. I can honestly say I'll never go back to filming without AF. I can shoot interviews at F1.4 and know it will all be pin sharp. All the cameras that are out now are very close in performance to be honest so its personal preference but I know my C300MK3 will last me for at least 5 years so very happy with the purchase.
Love it! thanks for showing some old sony some love. Just recently got a fs5ii on 2020 and could not be happier. internal ND is the best
Thank you. I was waiting for this video! I wish more detailed video on Fs700 would come!! 👍👍👍
How is moire? Any aliasing? Rolling shutter?
Quick! Head to Ebay before everyone else watches this video! 😂
So true
I go to comment and who do I see. Fancy going halves? Can spend half the year my side of the pond then the other yours
😂 what’s up dude! Seriously I’m looking to snag a pocket 6k soon here but this looks amazing too
😃😃😃👍
It's too late - prices already shot up. :(
Still one of the most undered and best value for money cameras out thre along with the F3 & FS100! Really glad you made a video about it!
Yeah still love pulling out my personal FS100 and shooting. It's such a workhorse!
the series are greatt. keep up the great workout you re doing
Ha! I just watched the Sony f3 this morning!
Oh nice! Crazy what money can buy with these older cameras!
@@dslrvideoshooter absolutely. . . .
This is still my everyday shooter paired with the original Atomos Shogun. It's a workhorse.
dito ❤️
Hi, do you know why it has massive noises in shadows (daylight) when recording raw externally on n cine profile? In slog2 there is no noise, only to in PP5, PP3 etc...
I love your videos such useful information for people thx
I mostly shoot on the pocket 6k & 4k today, but I still have my old FS700 and use it fairly often. The Sony E mount 28-135mm servo zoom is just phenomenal and the combo still works well today! It’s my go-to camera for sports. I just wish I could use that lens on my BMD cameras!
The FS700 - all of the image quality, none of the ergonomics.
"This Crusty Old Cinema Camera" 🤣 1:15
Thank you! you just made me feel a lot better about my FS700
Excellent review. Here in Brazil it is a very underrated camera. Mine doesn't change for anything, I use it exclusively in corporate jobs and some coverage of low light events. Despite the difficulty of handling, I preferred to adapt to it than to be like a madman wanting to buy each new camera model that the brands launch every month. If you have patience with it, you get great results. Still, I love the camera. With Atomos then, it’s not even mentioned, when I used it the first time I was impressed. If you keep an eye on maintaining the exposure in the right way, the noise does not interfere so much in my opinion. Congratulations on the channel.
This was a great video however I feel you missed a great opportunity by not comparing it to the BMPCC 4K as they are similarly priced.
The p4k is great but its a cinema camera no great but not the same. I have both. Its greatest problem in evf you can't see the screen under the sun.
@@ereceeme I wanted to see sony raw vs bm raw how well they stack up against each other. The main focus of Caleb's video was the raw video output. The evf I could care less about but thanks for your feedback.
brakmaster I can tell you this: The BMPCC lacks 4k 120 and 2k 240 but is better noise wise. Also the bmraw options allow for smaller file sizes.
HOW... does this camera support formats that didn't exist when it was built?
I think since it outputs raw, the recorder just compresses that to the Prores Raw and other newer codecs
outputting raw seems to give so many more options if you have an external recorder
You mean Prores RAW ? It's "transcoded" from the Sony FS RAW inside the Atomos recorder.
@@AntonWongVideo I guess I'm just impressed the HDMI from 8 years ago was capable of outputting 4k 10bit 120p raw. Before such a standard was really conceivable/acheivable. That's future proof as heck
@@Triforcefilms its raw data not video data so its smaller than u think. 4k was a thing 8 years ago it wasn't 20 years ago lol
Triforcefilms SDI, not HDMI
I was looking for all this info day before video was uploaded =O thanks!
One of my all time favorite cameras. The slow motion is so amazing
Aaaaand it's on it's way back up to it's 8000$ price tag
The only downside about this series (please make more) is that the camera blow up in price lol
Great series very helpful, please keep making videos like this.
Great stuff Caleb. Such a good series.
Thank you Chris! Having lots of fun with this old gems!
The Canon C100's nemesis.
Kinda, but not really.
Sony had their FS100 vs the C100. (and Panasonic the AF100)
While Sony with their FS700 was competing against the C300 (the original mk1).
The FS700 internal codec wasn't as good as the C300, wasn't as ergonomically designed as the C300, and the FS700 lacked a few other things like no TC.
But the FS700 trashed the C300 when it came to external recording and slow motion. (the C300 couldn't even do 1080 60fps! While the FS700 could do upscaled 960fps internally!!! :-o )
C100 was smaller though
@@ChrisParayno FS100 / FS5 are similar-ish in size though.
At the very least, if you’re off doing a quick video favor for a friend of a friend, you Look way more Boss if set up one of These beasties rather than an A6000 series.
No joke, I got a raise at work after I picked one up last season. My boss was always like "Jake shoots with one of those Red cameras now" hahahah
jake kuick - Just print a big Red sticker and you’re all set :) haha
@@jakekuick lol i might slap a red sticker on my bmpcc4k. Too bad i HATE red cameras image 🤷♂️
Thanks for this post! Just bought an fs700r with a movcam silver mount, for one heck of a steal. Learning a boat load from your channel.
Good job bro & thanks for nice information about sony fs700u & fs700R
I’d love to see one of these videos about the original RED.
there is some, just search red one in 2020
TH-camrs will literally label anything as a cinema camera at this point.
Love this series Caleb! I want more
i love these Videos about old cinema cameras
Really love this series. Ended up getting a Sony pmw-f3 from the recommendation from the last video. The image on it has great character. Definitely a great buy.
wow the sound is awesome! great job!
Wow that info is amazing
No body done like this video before
Extremely helpful for any persons in this situation
Fantastic review!ª!!!! thanks for sharing!!!
Awesome vids, thanks! I had the FS100, it was so awesome back then :)
great voice work. more calming than a guided meditation ,muah!
Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting and considering to buy one. Like to see more of these videos
I loved it Caleb!
Great video Caleb 👊🏻😎
Wow. That footage actually looks amazing. 👏
Awesome Video! Absolutely unique content!
Been my A-cam for years and the clients love it!
I had one of these when they first came out and I absolutely loved the thing
Thank you sir it does help a lot appreaciate your work
wow awesome. So many people suckered into thinking they need the latest camera when there are so many options 5+ years old (especially people just starting out who don't have the money to spend but still do). I still use the original C300 for most projects and it works great. Awesome channel and videos thanks!
Thanks for this Caleb. I hope you make more videos about how to get value out of older gear.
I still use it, it's an excellent camera, i even use it today for a TV show, i mostly use it for portrait subject, many people tell me to buy an fs7, but i don't know, i'm still in love with this camera like the first day
Great Stuff 🔥
Great job as always! I’ve been following you for so long. I still remember my 1st tip from you on a cheap rig for my Panasonic GH1 using a Quick Release Plate and Magic Arm with a Grip! 🤣🤣🤣
Ooh which video is this? I wanna watch it!
I need more of these videos they are so good!
I really love this kind of videos
Great video. I enjoyed it very much keep up posting such interesting videos. Will be back to watch more in the future
Love this series