Ya know, I wondered if Morda in Andromeda was at least a reference to him. Wrex did say that he will give one of his children Mordins name...”Maybe a girl”.
I am the very model of a scientist salarian, I study species turian, asari and batarian. I'm quite good at genetics as a subset of biology because I am an expert which I know is a tautology. My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, i am the very model of a scientist salarian. Sorry, urge to do it. Had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong.
Mordin's loyalty mission is and will forever be one of my favorites. I feel its in those conversations you finally are able to make Mordin see the mistakes he made, to struggle with them, and come to grips with what he needed to do in ME3. Seeing his spiritual side touched me, and i'll never forget it :)
He was already struggling with it, and well, he probably thought of everything Shepard said a million time. Tbh, I thought Shepard was acting like a dick in that mission, but well, I don't really consider using the genophage a mistake, or updating it a mistake, I kinda look at Mordin like a poor guys who ended up with the dirty job. I totally agree that it's good, it's so interesting, just look at how we have different outlooks on it. My favorite mission is the one with legion, with the choice of killing or brainwashing the Geth, though.
I was going to sabatouge the cure if it wasn't for the fact that he went back on his mistake and the pure silence it gave me an opertunity to shoot him...but, i let him go.
I hated to see Mordin go but his character arc was perfect - he went from working on/justifying the creation of the genophage virus, to giving his life to undo what he'd done to save the krogan. He started as a pawn in the game and went out as a hero. I wasn't mad about his death because it worked so well in the story, but I still missed him.
the way he takes a deep breath and then says "would've liked to run test son those seashells" always gets me, and then he follows it up with "had to be me, someone else would've gotten it wrong" You can tell his true nature and his clinical knowledge are at odds with each other, he knows what needs to be done at any given time even if it's in spite of his own personal feelings and nerves, truly a brave soul.
@@randall172 the eating silarian eggs part is pretty hardcore not to mention symbolic. Although, I had to stop him at "...if you lack the wisdom to flee..."
Small detail I noticed. When Mailon said the Genophage must end Mordin answered with “not like this”. Before this moment he always said it must go on, but he didn’t even considers that. This is the moment Mordin realized that, if he survived the Omega 4 relay, he would have to fix the Genophage himself and this time he would do it right. No more suffering, no more unethical experiments, the Krogan must be healed and it must be done without any more suffering.
One of the best characters in gaming, in my book. For all intents and purposes he was the villain of his own story, but his character growth is remarkable and he does what all deep characters in a story like this should do; asks a moral question. Some in ME are straightforward, like Legion: Can a collective of AIs ever be alive? With Mordin, the question is one of the oldest in philosophy: Should extreme circumstances justify any means? Almost all moral principles break down in a situation where two people have the desire and power to kill each other and will not back down for the sake of their own survival. Should anything be permitted in situations like those, even the most horrible crimes? What the Salarians did to the Krogan definitely seems less barbaric than what the fate the Krogan had planned for everyone else if they won their war. Does that justify it? I don't think there is an answer. Mordin's writing covers all the bases of things that people do to justify such actions to themselves; 'the big picture', drawing arbitrary red lines for themselves 'no species capable of calculus' etc etc. Only to be hit by his student turning those same justifications around on him.
Great post. One of the main points of this trilogy is that things often aren't as black and white as we make them out to be. This game covers so many issues that are relevant to real life.
I think Mordin's struggle with the morality of his actions, him finally coming to a resolution for it, and him acting so decisively for that resolution, is probably why he is (along with Garrus) my favorite male character of the entire series.
Personally, this is why Mordin's loyalty mission is the best. While it's easy on gameplay terms, storywise, it's one of the most divisive and most emotionally engaging because it basically forces you to confront your existent morals and standards.
I like small detail with his voice and movement when modin defending his work on the genohage. Alway had a reason for it (Not in a know it all way). That he thought and rationalize all the outcome even if it was ill morale. Voice show that he didn't take pride in his work but saw it a necessary evil. Love modin. Hope for urdnot mordin in the new game
The Genophage was necessary during the Krogan Rebellions if you went through the history vault in ME3 but upgrading it when the Krogan were adapting all because you relied on simulations and statistics? Every other species pre-invasion was 11 billion, Krogan was 2.8 billion pre-invasion and he thought a sterility plague that would eventually cause the Krogan species extinct 'a necessary evil' then he's mad, blind or both. Maelon was right about all of them having blood on their hands.
@@moonmoon2479 The meaning of that comment is that if you played full renegade and killed Mordin, you have no soul. But it only accurs, if you not tell them the sabotage.
@@KritoSkywaker Not true. I played full paragon, told him about the sabotage as soon as it was possible, he still died. Probably could have saved him, but I also didn't want to cross Wrex by faking the cure.
@@khymaaren during the time when he walks off you can actually renegade shoot him as he goes into the elevator and he will die before he can get to the system. It's really sad and hard to watch
Mordin Solus: The Bill Nye the Science Guy who drinks coffee on a daily basis with crystal meth as sugar. He is the ME universe’s Rick Sanchez before Rick ever existed.
Please don't compare Mordin to Rick, Mordin is interesting and has ethics, boundaries, morals, and an actual fascination with science. He finds reasons to keep going and can admire even bad people for the right reasons. Rick is a self destructive alcoholic who's ego and arrogance know no bounds and would sell out his own family for a chance to get a real high.
When trying to get the Dallatress' support and letting Mordin know and you try to talk him out of the cure, Mordin has a simple line, but one with a lot of impact that I ended up letting him cure them. "I MADE A MISTAKE!" This game had a lot of lines that really had emotional weight behind them. That is one of the major ones.
It's a pretty awesome journey that Mordin goes through from being an apologist for the genophage and someone who actively worked to improve it to someone who recognized that the Krogan deserved a second chance, and was the one who developed the cure for it.
This is the most unique antihero ever created. Obviously he turned hero in the end, and he was more hero than anything the whole way through but seeing him slowly realize his mistake working on the genophage was so amazing. Mass effect 3 gets way too much hate but it's maybe 70% as good as ME2 because it actually followed up to pretty much every character arc, and this was the saddest one IMO
It's specifically the combined opening for sexual and excrement-dumping in some animals. Mordin's basically calling Kirrahe a dick and an asshole at the same time.
Holy shit. When mordin said "Supposition" To maelon arguing the krogan coulda helped against soverign and the geth. I realized that even mordin didn't see the whole picture. He did the same to the krogan....
Mordin remains one of the most fascinating characters in the Sci-Fi genre. A true renaissance man; brilliant, creative, intelligent, humble, but morally imperfect. Presents a moral dilemma with outstanding outlook and pressing against his assertions doesn't feel like an antagonization, but a challenging of both his and your own moral boundaries. Sure, he perfected a sterility weapon and reduced an entire sapient species' population growth to a standstill, potentially dooming them, but he also prevented what was at the time one of the most dangerous sapient species in the galaxy from taking over. He'll claim every time that he doesn't regret his work, but there's always that slight hint of guilt somewhere, waiting to reveal itself, especially as you constantly find limits to what even he's willing to do for the sake of his work.
Only thing I'd change in the whole story. At the very end, as he's getting into the elevator and says "has to be me" I wish Shepard would have responded with, "Someone else would have gotten it wrong."
The way the ME series was able to constantly introduce new and interesting characters then develop to the point that you actually cared about their story arcs through multiple games is nothing short of amazing. Especially when you consider the massive character roster and the level of technology they had to work with at the time
Talking with Mordin is like exploring the 2 sides of a coin. It puts you into a perspective, the consequences of your decisions and overall just the philosophy of the value of life. It just offers wisdom, and it is glorious.
Doctor Solus. Former STG operative. Modifier of the genophage. The curer of the genophage. Savior of the krogan race. We were in the presence of a legend.
40:25 Wow, freaky! I've never seen this conversation take place before the Collector Ship mission. If you've already confirmed that the Collectors were prothean, this conversation goes _very_ differently.
Honestly ,this is probably one of the best stories and redemption arcs a character in a game can ask for. In ME2, while he does show signs of guilt over the modified genophage ,he is still 100% able to justify it without missing a beat when and after you meet him. I think that his loyalty mission is the start of his path towards redemption since the entire mission hits him with this problem over and over again and really makes him question whether what he did really was the right thing to do. Also he was kinda weird and quirky a good portion of the time so we had no idea what kind of person he really was deep inside or could be later on. In ME3, he is not only fully ready to cure the genophage and atone for his sins ,but is also ready to ensure it happens no matter the cost. The most important part of this story is once he gets at the Shroud during the mission on Tuchanka , where he soon realises that he has to make a final chance due to the current circumstances: - he takes the elevator up and cures the genophage, but he is not coming out of there alive - he walks away and dooms the entire krogan race forever Even though he knows that he won't live to tell about it and that he might never be forgiven by the krogan, he still takes the elevator up and fixes the one thing that had been haunting him continously for so much time (most likely knowing that he will never get rid of the guilt any another way). In the end, he dies happy since he not only saved an entire race from extinction (a race which he had no obligation to save or like),but he is also finally able to let go of the guilt and bad memories and finally be free due to fixing his biggest mistake, even if it's only for a few seconds before the inevitable happens.
I remember about 2 years ago I was at a gathering at a friend of a friend house. And someone was playing ME2 and somewhere during the suicide mission and some said they didn’t like Mordin. I’ve never seen a room go quite as they stared at the individual. That was a tense moment that night
Oh I get it. "someone else might have gotten it wrong" refers to the last two games and their attempts at the cure. Maelon's cure had a weekend immune system side effect and Saren's cure would have put them under his control.
The fact he not only took mood setting into consideration, but also comfort, enjoyment and health concerns into wellbeing, he either deeply cares for his teammates or has a much more crystal clear memory and expansive education to hold irrelevant information such as interspecies intercourse not of his own kin.
When I first recruited Mordin I didnt like him very much. Seemed too cold and sure of the Genophage. Seeing his character grow though from 2 to 3 made him one of the favorite characters.
Its mentioned in the Shadow Broker DLC for Mass Effect 2. A transcript of the mission he was on monitoring the variant Genophage deployment. They get ambushed at a Krogan farm, he gets injured and loses the horn, and has to kill a famer with a pitchfork.
one thing that always bothered me about the genophage-cure storyline. I get that they needed a Reaper to be there for there to be some gameplay in the part where you go to Tuchanka to release the cure. But the Reapers knew why they were going there. Why wouldn't they just destroy the Shroud as soon as they knew that Shepard wanted control of it?
@@ihatetobethatguybut7175 They're not blind killing machines though. They have shown to be extremely calculating and cautious for such a powerful race, preferring to topple civilisations by indoctrination and social engineering than just brute force. They'd want to destroy anything that the organics deemed important in fighting them since they don't want losses.
@@rosePetrichor well either way, I believe the Reaper just simply sees no reason to destroy it, could have no knowledge of Thresher Maw being summoned, deeming the probability of that to be low enough, unless they managed to get the info about it
As I've gathered from the conversation prior to the mission on Tuchanka, reapers were using the Shroud to poison the planet's atmosphere. So maybe they thought they could stop Shepard from getting to it anyway and proceed to use it afterwards?
@@patapon5960 The thing that baffles me is why Shepard stops to look at Kalros fighting the Reaper. Mordin might’ve survived if Shepard arrived 10 seconds earlier.
I love it goes to, “That research was built on several deaths, it should be destroyed.” And then “It could be used to cure the Genophage, you should save it.”
Someday, there will be a baby krogan named Urdnot Mordin.
Probably a girl
@@mo-em5sj Ya know, despite Wrex saying that, I think it would be his first kid. Boy or girl.
Ya know, I wondered if Morda in Andromeda was at least a reference to him. Wrex did say that he will give one of his children Mordins name...”Maybe a girl”.
Also, an Urdnot Shepard
@@gilzvit9112 That would be cool, but the arks in Andromeda were launched between the events of Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.
I hope he found that beach he wanted. Collect all the seashells he can.
🎯
Running test on the sea shells
Hopeful thane will be there with him.
@@11duelist also legion and kaidan
@@francozuppi Kaiden set up the beach house for all Normandy crewmates if they fell
I am the very model of a scientist salarian, I study species turian, asari and batarian. I'm quite good at genetics as a subset of biology because I am an expert which I know is a tautology. My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, i am the very model of a scientist salarian.
Sorry, urge to do it. Had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong.
Thanks for showing what you learned, Carolin
I saw this comment and laughed like a seal. Thank you for this lol
@Aurora Blade everyone.
I always shoot him.
Shocking suggestion doctor patent confidentiality a sacred trust would never dream....of mockery
“All life precious , universe demands diversity” god damn he’s such a cool character
Damn!! What a cast of characters!! Mordin, Legion, Wrex, Garrus... Mass Effect trilogy was epic
And of course we can't forget Thane, Javik, Liara, and Tali, among others!
Memorable, amazing, fleshed out characters. Andromeda had none of that. :(
@@bubastis6306 Vetra, The krogan, and the two humans we good characters, but Nowhere near as memorable, ala only remembering Vetra Nyx.
What about Jaal? He was more flushed out then the other characters.
@@lightningphoenix7155 Had to be. He was the "new" alien.
I live the evolution from "No apologies" to "I MADE A MISTAKE!"
‘I made him a steak!’
@@MilanTehVillain too many pieces of steak hiding biger picture
To be honest this is an admittance and not an apology
Mordin's loyalty mission is and will forever be one of my favorites. I feel its in those conversations you finally are able to make Mordin see the mistakes he made, to struggle with them, and come to grips with what he needed to do in ME3. Seeing his spiritual side touched me, and i'll never forget it :)
He was already struggling with it, and well, he probably thought of everything Shepard said a million time.
Tbh, I thought Shepard was acting like a dick in that mission, but well, I don't really consider using the genophage a mistake, or updating it a mistake, I kinda look at Mordin like a poor guys who ended up with the dirty job.
I totally agree that it's good, it's so interesting, just look at how we have different outlooks on it. My favorite mission is the one with legion, with the choice of killing or brainwashing the Geth, though.
Mordin did what he had to do. History proved him right
I was going to sabatouge the cure if it wasn't for the fact that he went back on his mistake and the pure silence
it gave me an opertunity to shoot him...but, i let him go.
@@Tabby3456 i shot him. Im not dooming the human race to ease an alien scientist's guilt.
I love his view on the afterlife. He says there has to be reincarnation, otherwise all the knowledge you acquire over your life is wasted...
“I made a mistake!” Him acknowledging it is what makes Mordin such a great character.
That's one of the most iconic, and definitely the most chilling and strong line in all mass effect for me.
I made him a steak!
I hated to see Mordin go but his character arc was perfect - he went from working on/justifying the creation of the genophage virus, to giving his life to undo what he'd done to save the krogan.
He started as a pawn in the game and went out as a hero. I wasn't mad about his death because it worked so well in the story, but I still missed him.
the way he takes a deep breath and then says "would've liked to run test son those seashells" always gets me, and then he follows it up with "had to be me, someone else would've gotten it wrong"
You can tell his true nature and his clinical knowledge are at odds with each other, he knows what needs to be done at any given time even if it's in spite of his own personal feelings and nerves, truly a brave soul.
That long sigh of relief and freedom from his mistakes in the elevator as well ❤️
There are a few moments where one should always go renegade. 23:16 is one of them.
You know out of all the times I've gone Paragon I don't think I have ever actually let him talk all the way through lol
good speech though
@@randall172 the eating silarian eggs part is pretty hardcore not to mention symbolic. Although, I had to stop him at "...if you lack the wisdom to flee..."
Yhea, this is the first time i've actually heard the end of his speech and i replayed the trilogy several times
What's funny is I knew exactly what scene you were talking about before I'd even watched the video
for those interested - Gilbert And Sullivan at 44:15
Gareth Browne thank you. 🙏
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SONG?!
@@wuftchan8299 Look up "Modern Major General"
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Small detail I noticed.
When Mailon said the Genophage must end Mordin answered with “not like this”.
Before this moment he always said it must go on, but he didn’t even considers that.
This is the moment Mordin realized that, if he survived the Omega 4 relay, he would have to fix the Genophage himself and this time he would do it right.
No more suffering, no more unethical experiments, the Krogan must be healed and it must be done without any more suffering.
Video about Mordin. Wrex steals the show. "speak when spoken too Uvenk, I'll drag your clan to glory whether it likes it or not"
One of the best characters in gaming, in my book. For all intents and purposes he was the villain of his own story, but his character growth is remarkable and he does what all deep characters in a story like this should do; asks a moral question. Some in ME are straightforward, like Legion: Can a collective of AIs ever be alive? With Mordin, the question is one of the oldest in philosophy: Should extreme circumstances justify any means? Almost all moral principles break down in a situation where two people have the desire and power to kill each other and will not back down for the sake of their own survival. Should anything be permitted in situations like those, even the most horrible crimes? What the Salarians did to the Krogan definitely seems less barbaric than what the fate the Krogan had planned for everyone else if they won their war. Does that justify it? I don't think there is an answer. Mordin's writing covers all the bases of things that people do to justify such actions to themselves; 'the big picture', drawing arbitrary red lines for themselves 'no species capable of calculus' etc etc. Only to be hit by his student turning those same justifications around on him.
Great post. One of the main points of this trilogy is that things often aren't as black and white as we make them out to be. This game covers so many issues that are relevant to real life.
I think Mordin's struggle with the morality of his actions, him finally coming to a resolution for it, and him acting so decisively for that resolution, is probably why he is (along with Garrus) my favorite male character of the entire series.
Personally, this is why Mordin's loyalty mission is the best. While it's easy on gameplay terms, storywise, it's one of the most divisive and most emotionally engaging because it basically forces you to confront your existent morals and standards.
45:35 Mordin low-key saying he finds Asari attractive.
Well, the man has broken Omega's one rule...in more ways than one!
Might run tests on the sea shells.
God I missed him. xD
I finally finished, who else is crying?
x2
Me. ;_;
I like small detail with his voice and movement when modin defending his work on the genohage. Alway had a reason for it (Not in a know it all way). That he thought and rationalize all the outcome even if it was ill morale. Voice show that he didn't take pride in his work but saw it a necessary evil. Love modin. Hope for urdnot mordin in the new game
The Genophage was necessary during the Krogan Rebellions if you went through the history vault in ME3 but upgrading it when the Krogan were adapting all because you relied on simulations and statistics? Every other species pre-invasion was 11 billion, Krogan was 2.8 billion pre-invasion and he thought a sterility plague that would eventually cause the Krogan species extinct 'a necessary evil' then he's mad, blind or both. Maelon was right about all of them having blood on their hands.
If you killed Mordin, you don't have a soul.
What do you mean? He died for me. But it was for the best, plus I couldn’t stop him. Why don’t I have a soul?
@@moonmoon2479 The meaning of that comment is that if you played full renegade and killed Mordin, you have no soul. But it only accurs, if you not tell them the sabotage.
@@KritoSkywaker Not true. I played full paragon, told him about the sabotage as soon as it was possible, he still died. Probably could have saved him, but I also didn't want to cross Wrex by faking the cure.
@@khymaaren
You can only save Mordin, if Wrex is dead and Maelon's Research Data is destroyed. If Wrex is alive, DON'T sabotage the cure. 😊
@@khymaaren during the time when he walks off you can actually renegade shoot him as he goes into the elevator and he will die before he can get to the system. It's really sad and hard to watch
1:22:38 What a trooper, mordin solus, I salute you
This video needs more views, such an amazing and charismatic character
Goodbye Mordin, I hope you find some seashells, where ever you are.
Asari Vorcha offspring have an allergy to dairy.......
The Asari are freaky
Mordin Solus: The Bill Nye the Science Guy who drinks coffee on a daily basis with crystal meth as sugar. He is the ME universe’s Rick Sanchez before Rick ever existed.
Q-Q
no, Mordin is nothing like Bill Nye the Sellout Guy
Don’t insult Mordin by comparing him to a sack of shit like Bill Nye.
Please don't compare Mordin to Rick, Mordin is interesting and has ethics, boundaries, morals, and an actual fascination with science. He finds reasons to keep going and can admire even bad people for the right reasons. Rick is a self destructive alcoholic who's ego and arrogance know no bounds and would sell out his own family for a chance to get a real high.
What the hell ?? Mordin and Rick are nothing alike.
52:00 beautiful ost, perfect for part of story.
Thank you for your hard work making these dialogue videos.
2:54 my favorite line from this part. Mordin is hilarious.
Advantage of being Salarian. Turians, krogan, vorcha, all obvious threats." "Never see me coming."
Mordin he Saw what he done And gave his life to save the krogan And erase his mistake really a good person who diserves an monument
" Can't anthropomorphize Galaxy"
Oh I know of a certain group that sure can.
33:27 - was kinda hoping Tali had been present at this point. "I'm standing right here!"
16:03 Wrex’s little excited grunts and chuckle when he goes to Shepherd still gets me XD. Love that Krogan.
When trying to get the Dallatress' support and letting Mordin know and you try to talk him out of the cure, Mordin has a simple line, but one with a lot of impact that I ended up letting him cure them. "I MADE A MISTAKE!" This game had a lot of lines that really had emotional weight behind them. That is one of the major ones.
Mordin smiling is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen.
Travis Mudd Especially when you look at the thumbnail :D
It's a pretty awesome journey that Mordin goes through from being an apologist for the genophage and someone who actively worked to improve it to someone who recognized that the Krogan deserved a second chance, and was the one who developed the cure for it.
This is the most unique antihero ever created. Obviously he turned hero in the end, and he was more hero than anything the whole way through but seeing him slowly realize his mistake working on the genophage was so amazing. Mass effect 3 gets way too much hate but it's maybe 70% as good as ME2 because it actually followed up to pretty much every character arc, and this was the saddest one IMO
Super old comment but, the beginning, middle and end of ME3 could be described with that godly/bootleg horse meme, with 1-2 and 3 respectively
“Good kid. Bit naive.” I love him so much 😂
Such a God Damn great character. Like Clint Eastwood mixed with Dr. House
"Plague hitting these slums is engineered"
Damn how much I hope there is a Mordin Solus right now
if we had a Mordin Solus, the situation wouldnt have lasted this long...So, i agree with you
@IsengardMordor "Am familiar with WEF sabotage, can adjust."
10:05 Mordin being one of those "I just want to get off work and go home" people is too perfect.
Wait, at 10:12 Morin called Kirrahae a "cloaca"; now that i'm older and kind of know what a cloaca is did he just call him a dick?
Yep
He called him an ass. Cloaca is the opening for reproductive areas in animals and people
@@lucianfrostbane Cloaca is common in birds and reptiles is both the reproductive and excretor duct. (Anus and Dick/Vagina.
It's specifically the combined opening for sexual and excrement-dumping in some animals. Mordin's basically calling Kirrahe a dick and an asshole at the same time.
3:06 This line cracks me up. They never suspect the doctors...
I’ve never played these games, but I’m glad he got the chance to redeem himself. He really went out like a hero.
"Someone else might've gotten it wrong."
And I'm already crying!
44:18 The way Mordin smiles when you ask him about Gilbert and Sullivan is so cute, he's so proud. 🥲
Holy shit.
When mordin said "Supposition"
To maelon arguing the krogan coulda helped against soverign and the geth.
I realized that even mordin didn't see the whole picture.
He did the same to the krogan....
Mordin remains one of the most fascinating characters in the Sci-Fi genre. A true renaissance man; brilliant, creative, intelligent, humble, but morally imperfect. Presents a moral dilemma with outstanding outlook and pressing against his assertions doesn't feel like an antagonization, but a challenging of both his and your own moral boundaries. Sure, he perfected a sterility weapon and reduced an entire sapient species' population growth to a standstill, potentially dooming them, but he also prevented what was at the time one of the most dangerous sapient species in the galaxy from taking over. He'll claim every time that he doesn't regret his work, but there's always that slight hint of guilt somewhere, waiting to reveal itself, especially as you constantly find limits to what even he's willing to do for the sake of his work.
Imagine if instead of an unknown taking his place in ME3 we got his favorite nephew. Dealing with family legacy. Dies for his uncles sins
That actually would’ve been pretty cool
Only thing I'd change in the whole story. At the very end, as he's getting into the elevator and says "has to be me" I wish Shepard would have responded with, "Someone else would have gotten it wrong."
The way the ME series was able to constantly introduce new and interesting characters then develop to the point that you actually cared about their story arcs through multiple games is nothing short of amazing. Especially when you consider the massive character roster and the level of technology they had to work with at the time
“Loathe metaphors. Pander to undereducated masses. Get doctorate! Have a real conversation!”
laughed so hard at this. I mean, can you imagine having a conversation with somebody without a doctorate! Preposterous. Beneath mordin's intelligence.
My project, My work, My cure, My responsibilities....Mass effect just gave us The best scientist ever.
42:38 something about his rant here is very interesting to me.
He probably hates the synthesis ending
Talking with Mordin is like exploring the 2 sides of a coin. It puts you into a perspective, the consequences of your decisions and overall just the philosophy of the value of life.
It just offers wisdom, and it is glorious.
Doctor Solus. Former STG operative. Modifier of the genophage. The curer of the genophage. Savior of the krogan race. We were in the presence of a legend.
40:25 Wow, freaky! I've never seen this conversation take place before the Collector Ship mission. If you've already confirmed that the Collectors were prothean, this conversation goes _very_ differently.
Mordin singing G&S might have made my life. Love Gilbert and Sullivan. What a character.
Honestly ,this is probably one of the best stories and redemption arcs a character in a game can ask for. In ME2, while he does show signs of guilt over the modified genophage ,he is still 100% able to justify it without missing a beat when and after you meet him. I think that his loyalty mission is the start of his path towards redemption since the entire mission hits him with this problem over and over again and really makes him question whether what he did really was the right thing to do. Also he was kinda weird and quirky a good portion of the time so we had no idea what kind of person he really was deep inside or could be later on.
In ME3, he is not only fully ready to cure the genophage and atone for his sins ,but is also ready to ensure it happens no matter the cost. The most important part of this story is once he gets at the Shroud during the mission on Tuchanka , where he soon realises that he has to make a final chance due to the current circumstances:
- he takes the elevator up and cures the genophage, but he is not coming out of there alive
- he walks away and dooms the entire krogan race forever
Even though he knows that he won't live to tell about it and that he might never be forgiven by the krogan, he still takes the elevator up and fixes the one thing that had been haunting him continously for so much time (most likely knowing that he will never get rid of the guilt any another way). In the end, he dies happy since he not only saved an entire race from extinction (a race which he had no obligation to save or like),but he is also finally able to let go of the guilt and bad memories and finally be free due to fixing his biggest mistake, even if it's only for a few seconds before the inevitable happens.
47:15 oh yeah I forgot this was the part with Mordin I died the most
I remember about 2 years ago I was at a gathering at a friend of a friend house. And someone was playing ME2 and somewhere during the suicide mission and some said they didn’t like Mordin. I’ve never seen a room go quite as they stared at the individual. That was a tense moment that night
Oh I get it. "someone else might have gotten it wrong" refers to the last two games and their attempts at the cure. Maelon's cure had a weekend immune system side effect and Saren's cure would have put them under his control.
Huh. Didn't think about it that way.
Mordin helping broshep how fucc his space elf gf lol always loved that moment
The fact he not only took mood setting into consideration, but also comfort, enjoyment and health concerns into wellbeing, he either deeply cares for his teammates or has a much more crystal clear memory and expansive education to hold irrelevant information such as interspecies intercourse not of his own kin.
45:00 the most awkward pause in mass effect history
Some characters might call Mordin Crazy, I say Let him cook.
I love the Urdnot scout. Roars in triumph, then walls sedately away.
very good - thanks for taking the time to make this
Of all the characters, Mordin is by far my favorite.
When I first recruited Mordin I didnt like him very much. Seemed too cold and sure of the Genophage. Seeing his character grow though from 2 to 3 made him one of the favorite characters.
10:11 I had to look up cloaca, and the context. I never would have thought that someone like Mordin would call Kirrahe an asshole!
Technically called him a dick as well, since cloaca are multi purpose.
@44.56 always makes me reminisce on 'did that just happen?!' from when I 1st played the game. The lore for this trilogy is TRULY remarkable!
There's no pep talk, like a military pep talk
"get doctorate, have a *real* conversation" is probably one of my favourite lines
25:12 "farming equipment..."
Geralt: Damn..
the awkard pause when he sings for the first time... love it. may he rest in peace
I cried when my boi Mordin sacrificed himself for the Krogans. But I had a smile on my face mostly cuz he went out singing which is legendary
6:59 Mortin - What in the terminus space fuck is that
To the Greatest Scientist Salarian!
*Raises cup in the air*
Cheers
33:34 “Not some Quarian with a tummy ache.” Tali: “Hey”
The Mass Effect 1 Track at the end makes it marvelous
Tuchanka's part sounds like a trance, so calming with hes voice and he's music theme....
I’ll miss ya Mordin. He was an incredible friend and ally.
He was a awesome character. Ah, his Gilbert and Sulivan was hillarious. A true mad scientist
Get doctorate, have a real conversation.
Mordin Solus, the very model of a modern major general. RIP you beautiful bastard.
Seeing Mordin go out shattered me but I understand why it had to be him: someone else could have gotten it wrong. 😥
25:08 kind of curious about that last one
Its mentioned in the Shadow Broker DLC for Mass Effect 2. A transcript of the mission he was on monitoring the variant Genophage deployment. They get ambushed at a Krogan farm, he gets injured and loses the horn, and has to kill a famer with a pitchfork.
It's probably due to being a unique model, but still, I feel like Mordin's head is a little bigger than the usual ones we see on other NPCs.
49:44 mordin tried to match eve with garrus lol
I. Will. Never forget Mordin he is and always will be one of the people with the best written stories I’ve ever seen. ❤️
No matter the choice the ending hurts everytime
Que mordin reincarnating as a krogan scientist dedicated to seas shell analysis?
one thing that always bothered me about the genophage-cure storyline. I get that they needed a Reaper to be there for there to be some gameplay in the part where you go to Tuchanka to release the cure. But the Reapers knew why they were going there. Why wouldn't they just destroy the Shroud as soon as they knew that Shepard wanted control of it?
I would assume there'd be no need to for them, they just want to harvest organics, not destroy buildings
@@ihatetobethatguybut7175 They're not blind killing machines though. They have shown to be extremely calculating and cautious for such a powerful race, preferring to topple civilisations by indoctrination and social engineering than just brute force. They'd want to destroy anything that the organics deemed important in fighting them since they don't want losses.
@@rosePetrichor well either way, I believe the Reaper just simply sees no reason to destroy it, could have no knowledge of Thresher Maw being summoned, deeming the probability of that to be low enough, unless they managed to get the info about it
As I've gathered from the conversation prior to the mission on Tuchanka, reapers were using the Shroud to poison the planet's atmosphere. So maybe they thought they could stop Shepard from getting to it anyway and proceed to use it afterwards?
@@patapon5960 The thing that baffles me is why Shepard stops to look at Kalros fighting the Reaper. Mordin might’ve survived if Shepard arrived 10 seconds earlier.
27:42 for some reason hits me in the feels, it's so unexpected to me
Mordin's singing part ALWAYS mayes me laugh at the end when the games does nothing until he does his awkward post singing cough
1:05:22 "yes, yes shut up shepard im speaking to you"
I love it goes to, “That research was built on several deaths, it should be destroyed.” And then “It could be used to cure the Genophage, you should save it.”
Jesus, legion and mordin made peace on their respective planets, I just wish they were there to see it till the end, they deserved it...
0:11 the government be like
I would've liked to see Bioware complete Mordin vs Grunt confrontation in ME2. That would've been interesting to say the least.
When they were talking about that virus mutating, scary stuff