Just started watching your channel. Already found your information is on target. For my learning curve. Apperctiat thus review as im interested in upgrading.
I'm a little late to the WPL party, but I've got a C14 on the bench waiting for a conversion to "hobby" grade. Keep us posted on the progress of yours, it's good inspiration.
Righto, will do! There isn't much more to get done, if you've watched the first two videos. Just gotta sort that steering now! It doesn't need metal axles or driveshafts, being that it's so light already, it's strong enough that I think I'll just run it till something breaks, then fix that as needed :)
I have a set like this on one of the (admittedly 3 or 4) C14 and C24 series that I have yet to finish. I've seen other reviews online that this single speed is in between the two gears of the 2-speed. Setting the two-speed servo can be a bit fiddly, depending on how you assemble the chassis, as you already know from the C44
Quite right. Well, the nice thing about planetary gearboxes is their epic reduction, so another thing to try might be a 380 motor with more turns than whatever they've supplied here. They can be found cheaply online, so maybe buying a few (they're a few bob each) and testing could be something one might try if their hobby time and focus was on these little rigs. Personally I like the speed it has now on 2S with the planetary gearbox. Though I just found one on Ali that was about half the price of the one I featured here. It's coming, I'll test it soon in the B36KM - I don't like it's two speed. It works but it's fiddly. And one less servo makes waterproofing a bit easier!
Oh yeah? Thanks for that! I've lived under a rock for the last few years and have barely watched TH-cam or anything - maybe an hour a week kinda thing - until recently when I started this channel. Don't even have a TV! Thanks for the tip, I'll check him out soon.
@@RCTNT On the same boat. No TV since 2005ish. Just DVDs, Netflix and other sources for movies and a few documentaries that I play on my computer, and in the past couple of years, a LOT of content on TH-cam. I'm kinda wary if I should cut the Youtubing down a bit, but I enjoy getting a lot of info through media, so... can't help myself!
That's odd, as this upgrade should draw less current than the highly geared original. Or similar current at least, given the difference in can size. But it's so much more controllable, at any rate. Sorry it killed your ESC/Rx combo, I didn't have that experience. Hope you managed to get it sorted!
Looking on yt I can tell that you are the expert in this motor/case, in your opinion could this combo drive a heavy truck on flat surface? I'm looking to convert a die cast 1/18 scale truck and looking for a gearbox/Motor that could just move it. The truck is over 10kg but it would be just for moving about on the flat floor so no rocks or any uneven terrain, any help is much appreciated.
We can make some guesses, sure. 10kg is pretty heavy, but then, a smooth floor helps a lot. What kind of tires will they be? If hard, I think you'll be okay. If soft/squishy, this will add load to an already fairly taxed motor. Heat is going to be the main issue for this motor option. If you can get a heat sink and fan for the motor (and from memory, this was a 380-sized motor, so they definitely are available: amzn.to/3z1HJwX ), that'll really help. The other way to keep heat down is to use lower voltage - in this case, use like a 6-cell NiMH battery or a 2S battery. The motor will take 3S/12V, but keeping it to 6-8v will be better for heat. I think that should cover it. However, the problem I suspect you may encounter, aside from heat, is one of gearing. It may be too fast for your purposes, which will also lead back to the heat issue. It also may mean the mass of the model is an issue for getting the thing moving, as the motor will possibly be taxed pretty hard. For a bit more grunt for bumpy surfaces and zero worry about heat, this budget combo will do the job perfectly: amzn.to/3z1HJwX You'll need an ESC in either case. The HobbyWing WP-1060 is a solid choice: amzn.to/3ZgYZcl Enjoy the modding process! Sounds like a great little project :)
@@RCTNTwow that's a super quick and detailed reply thank you. I just like my models be able to move and really enjoy the proces of rebuild and create something new. You gave me a link for the heat sink twice so when you say "this little combo" you talk about the 370 motor/gearbox and fan for cooling? Or is there somthing different you recommend?
Oh, sorry! That wasn't intentional! This is the other one I meant to link: amzn.to/4e4NPLC I understand it's a noisy combo, but the torque and size should be quite usable. Also the WP-1625 is another great little ESC to use, if the 1060 ends up being overkill: amzn.to/3XbM4FN Hope that's helpful! Cheers
I've just picked up the upgraded transfer case for my C24. I wasn't sure if it was the correct setup for my C24 but after seeing your video, all confirmed. Thanks for the info..
@@RCTNT ill post a link once i completed the assembly, i have the electronics now on hand but underchassis parts still on its way. Im a beginner by the way.
Hey Danny, there was minimal soldering, yep. I showed more like that on my C44KM video. Fairly straightforward though and noob friendly, nothing complex.
Could be different turns on the motor, different magnets, different gearing... These cheaper models don't necessarily have the same level of quality control as the bigger models.
@@k1ortia I've only looked on banggood and AliExpress for such things. For what it's worth, the gearbox, which is the first and best upgrade I think, is in the description here. I've found a cheaper one on AliExpress but it hasn't arrived yet so I can't confirm I'm happy with it. This is it though: a.aliexpress.com/_mNfXPmw
@@xboxace2200 2s lipo batteries? Huge range out there, that's kinda like asking me how much a tin of paint costs. You want 2S, 10C would be enough for this little application, 600mah to 1400mah would be about right for capacity, and you'd need to make an adapter from the old battery and the right connection for your new lipo. All up you'll spend $10 to $25, I'd expect.
I feel for you. It isn't a great car in stock form and there's not a lot you can do to make it better. This gearbox and motor upgrade helps a lot, as would better tires, but otherwise, it is what it is.
Nice. I think this is the most logical starting point in upgrading any wpl. I’ll start here as well thanks. Also did you make a video on the steering problem ? I couldn’t find it in you’re videos. I’m new here but glad I found you’re channel 🤙🏼
G'day Quinn, thank you for dropping by. This gearbox is a great start for most wpl models, that's an excellent observation. I must agree. You know, I haven't fixed this yet. I should give this little rig some more attention. I've been so busy with comp season (just got back from interstate from The Big One last night), I just haven't picked it up in a while. So, there's no video about it. Yet. I'll have another look at it soon and see what I can work out to fix the steering, because you're right, it is needed! Thanks for the prompt!
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Just started watching your channel. Already found your information is on target. For my learning curve. Apperctiat thus review as im interested in upgrading.
Oh excellent! So glad it helped :) Welcome!
Same I subscribed almost instantly😅
I'm a little late to the WPL party, but I've got a C14 on the bench waiting for a conversion to "hobby" grade. Keep us posted on the progress of yours, it's good inspiration.
Righto, will do! There isn't much more to get done, if you've watched the first two videos. Just gotta sort that steering now! It doesn't need metal axles or driveshafts, being that it's so light already, it's strong enough that I think I'll just run it till something breaks, then fix that as needed :)
@@RCTNT have you changed your stock non proportional servo
@@aishuttysworld5882 it is proportional but could use more throw, I think.
I have a set like this on one of the (admittedly 3 or 4) C14 and C24 series that I have yet to finish. I've seen other reviews online that this single speed is in between the two gears of the 2-speed. Setting the two-speed servo can be a bit fiddly, depending on how you assemble the chassis, as you already know from the C44
Quite right. Well, the nice thing about planetary gearboxes is their epic reduction, so another thing to try might be a 380 motor with more turns than whatever they've supplied here. They can be found cheaply online, so maybe buying a few (they're a few bob each) and testing could be something one might try if their hobby time and focus was on these little rigs.
Personally I like the speed it has now on 2S with the planetary gearbox. Though I just found one on Ali that was about half the price of the one I featured here. It's coming, I'll test it soon in the B36KM - I don't like it's two speed. It works but it's fiddly. And one less servo makes waterproofing a bit easier!
Oh yeah? Thanks for that! I've lived under a rock for the last few years and have barely watched TH-cam or anything - maybe an hour a week kinda thing - until recently when I started this channel. Don't even have a TV!
Thanks for the tip, I'll check him out soon.
@@RCTNT On the same boat. No TV since 2005ish. Just DVDs, Netflix and other sources for movies and a few documentaries that I play on my computer, and in the past couple of years, a LOT of content on TH-cam. I'm kinda wary if I should cut the Youtubing down a bit, but I enjoy getting a lot of info through media, so... can't help myself!
@@YoShImUrA53 nice, similar timing for me too.
tried it, my stock electronic burns hahaha
That's odd, as this upgrade should draw less current than the highly geared original. Or similar current at least, given the difference in can size. But it's so much more controllable, at any rate. Sorry it killed your ESC/Rx combo, I didn't have that experience. Hope you managed to get it sorted!
The motor is not fast.
But still too fast for this application and gearing, IMO.
Looking on yt I can tell that you are the expert in this motor/case, in your opinion could this combo drive a heavy truck on flat surface?
I'm looking to convert a die cast 1/18 scale truck and looking for a gearbox/Motor that could just move it. The truck is over 10kg but it would be just for moving about on the flat floor so no rocks or any uneven terrain, any help is much appreciated.
We can make some guesses, sure. 10kg is pretty heavy, but then, a smooth floor helps a lot. What kind of tires will they be? If hard, I think you'll be okay. If soft/squishy, this will add load to an already fairly taxed motor.
Heat is going to be the main issue for this motor option. If you can get a heat sink and fan for the motor (and from memory, this was a 380-sized motor, so they definitely are available: amzn.to/3z1HJwX ), that'll really help.
The other way to keep heat down is to use lower voltage - in this case, use like a 6-cell NiMH battery or a 2S battery. The motor will take 3S/12V, but keeping it to 6-8v will be better for heat. I think that should cover it.
However, the problem I suspect you may encounter, aside from heat, is one of gearing. It may be too fast for your purposes, which will also lead back to the heat issue. It also may mean the mass of the model is an issue for getting the thing moving, as the motor will possibly be taxed pretty hard.
For a bit more grunt for bumpy surfaces and zero worry about heat, this budget combo will do the job perfectly: amzn.to/3z1HJwX
You'll need an ESC in either case. The HobbyWing WP-1060 is a solid choice: amzn.to/3ZgYZcl
Enjoy the modding process! Sounds like a great little project :)
@@RCTNTwow that's a super quick and detailed reply thank you. I just like my models be able to move and really enjoy the proces of rebuild and create something new. You gave me a link for the heat sink twice so when you say "this little combo" you talk about the 370 motor/gearbox and fan for cooling? Or is there somthing different you recommend?
Oh, sorry! That wasn't intentional! This is the other one I meant to link: amzn.to/4e4NPLC
I understand it's a noisy combo, but the torque and size should be quite usable. Also the WP-1625 is another great little ESC to use, if the 1060 ends up being overkill: amzn.to/3XbM4FN
Hope that's helpful! Cheers
Nice video im sorry my eng is bad so i have a question will this motor fit on WPL c24-1 and need i other parts for motor?
If you buy the one in the description, the motor comes with the gearbox. It's all you need. Makes a decent difference!
@@RCTNTtysm!
I've just picked up the upgraded transfer case for my C24. I wasn't sure if it was the correct setup for my C24 but after seeing your video, all confirmed. Thanks for the info..
Ah, very good! So glad it was helpful :) Enjoy your vastly more controllable (and thus more fun) C24 :D
I have the m35A2 cab the first generation cheap quality, already spent 200 usd on upgrades of electronics ang underchassis.
Wow, that sounds significant! Got a video or photo album link? That'd be cool to see.
@@RCTNT ill post a link once i completed the assembly, i have the electronics now on hand but underchassis parts still on its way. Im a beginner by the way.
@@Wolf10-xsl brilliant, thanks! And I'm so glad you're a beginner, it means you have all of it ahead of you. Enjoy!
Sweet Vid & Great information 🤜🤛👊👍
Great video thanks. I'm new to the RC scene. Was there any soldering involved?
Hey Danny, there was minimal soldering, yep. I showed more like that on my C44KM video. Fairly straightforward though and noob friendly, nothing complex.
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Hye why my 370 are slower than yours
Could be different turns on the motor, different magnets, different gearing... These cheaper models don't necessarily have the same level of quality control as the bigger models.
Just received my c24 a few days.. it's bloody amazing for the price. Can't wait to start upgrades
Awesome :) There's plenty to consider for it. Can't argue with the price eh!
@@RCTNT yes definitely.. where are the best places to buy some nice parts for this? Cheers
@@k1ortia I've only looked on banggood and AliExpress for such things. For what it's worth, the gearbox, which is the first and best upgrade I think, is in the description here.
I've found a cheaper one on AliExpress but it hasn't arrived yet so I can't confirm I'm happy with it.
This is it though:
a.aliexpress.com/_mNfXPmw
@@RCTNT ok thanks for that. I,ll take a thurough look.
got mine for $39.
Nice. Great deal!
Hey I just ordered one of these what battery di you use
Still using the one it came with, for now, but you could use any 2s lipo and it'd be alright, I'd think
@@RCTNT ok thnks do you know how much they are
@@xboxace2200 2s lipo batteries? Huge range out there, that's kinda like asking me how much a tin of paint costs.
You want 2S, 10C would be enough for this little application, 600mah to 1400mah would be about right for capacity, and you'd need to make an adapter from the old battery and the right connection for your new lipo. All up you'll spend $10 to $25, I'd expect.
@@RCTNT ok thnks
I hate hate my red one just hate it whzt can it freaking do it suck its rtr one and I hate it wish I had a better one
I feel for you. It isn't a great car in stock form and there's not a lot you can do to make it better. This gearbox and motor upgrade helps a lot, as would better tires, but otherwise, it is what it is.
Nice. I think this is the most logical starting point in upgrading any wpl. I’ll start here as well thanks. Also did you make a video on the steering problem ? I couldn’t find it in you’re videos. I’m new here but glad I found you’re channel 🤙🏼
G'day Quinn, thank you for dropping by. This gearbox is a great start for most wpl models, that's an excellent observation. I must agree.
You know, I haven't fixed this yet. I should give this little rig some more attention. I've been so busy with comp season (just got back from interstate from The Big One last night), I just haven't picked it up in a while.
So, there's no video about it. Yet. I'll have another look at it soon and see what I can work out to fix the steering, because you're right, it is needed! Thanks for the prompt!