Anyone else getting a glitch a lot where you can't schedule visits with random recruits even when you are in the top 3? Super annoying losing guys you have at #1 and can't schedule them for a visit because it's locked
Yes this is huge! Always, always check if they have a dealbreaker. Sometimes it’s information you already know, but sometimes it’s not and that makes the difference, especially when at a small school. You might be able to start hard selling big recruits much earlier.
I do to that. If his deal breaker isn’t a green check but I got two others that are green check I go use a hard sell on that until I found the dealbreaker is highlight and line up with the other two interests.
@@corywallen4137 if you're number 1 on a prospects list by a solid amount and his deal breaker triggered after you used points on him, don't take him off your list. 9/10 times he'll commit to you on signing day. This has happened when I had a four star gem FS with Sam Houston. I got to his number 1, no one else did anything and he locked me out, still signed with me lol. It's happened several times but he was the best one that did it
If you have 2 possible ideal pitches, I’ve had success soft selling both and switching it to hard sell when I find out which one it is, both preserving good contact and budgeting hours. Might be coincidental, but it’s been pretty consistent
How do you go from a soft sell to a hard sell? When I try that, the pitch that I need to use for hard sell is locked because I used it for hard sell and every other pitch will be all X's.
Offline Dynasty :- I have had 8 top 5 , four of those were #1 overall, recruiting classes. I rarely us sway. My singular focus is to get 5* scholarship asap...in first 3 weeks, the Pipeline, then Open....if they are not interested, I cut them loose. The best time, I've found, of recruiting is actually scouting players (if you have the hours) to look for those 4-5* or 3-4* players. I also found that the later the recruiting season goes on....3-4* gems pop up amazingly. Another thing I do is use EVERY single hour as I can on my gems.
Wait does scouting the player generate interest from the player? I just got the game and thought I had to check dms at the cheapest to tell a player I’m interested
@@tlit no offering the scholarship IS the communication "letter or email" or whatever that they would receive. DM'ing the player is just having the HC in direct text communication with the player like I once had with one of my prospect college coaches myself. Its sort of extra but not what is required. And no. Scouting doesn't help unless you really want to know their top stats or compare to another similar player on your board so you can choose between them and save points elsewhere.
Once you upgrade your recruiting in coach abilities you can stack a hard sell on a soft sell. If you sway them you’ll have two ideal pitches to use and then it’s pretty much wraps for other schools
Seems like a lot hours to commit. 70 the first week, if successful 60 the next. I've haven't found the need to do this kind of over spend very often. Maybe year 7-8 if you've maxed everything and have stacked top 5 classes, you might as well aim for all the 5stars.
@@anubiam3004if u aren’t using your max hours on every person u aren’t recruiting right. U don’t recruit with minimum hours like 30 per person. U put everything into your earliest recruits in order to get them committed and get your hours back. Otherwise ppl like u are probably just trying to manage 35 guys all with 20 hours each. And getting no one
first season at Southern Miss (2-star school) and got eight 4-star recruits from utilizing a double up method after using Sway ... If their motivations are similarly in line with another motivation trio then you can Sway a person into another high school attribute of yours that can then be used to Soft Sell (20), Hard Sell (40) and optionally DM a player for the remaining 5 if you have 65 points available to invest in any particular player position. I've outraced & outbid some of the biggest schools such as Ole Miss & Miss State for top tier talent even as just a little Sun Belt school. Its like Sending the House on steroids. And if you keep your list short enough in the early stages & only go for top talent, the method works absolute wonders despite lacking the hours of big schools.
I've been doing the exact opposite, almost never using visit. I value my hours that get used on other players too much. By week 4/5 when the 4/5 star key recruits are decided, I might use visit to win a close recruiting battle. Without knowing coach abilities, pipeline, and school grades there becomes too many variable to know which are the most important.
IMO sway is pointless and should never be used. It’s a massive waste and you’re better off 99% of the time soft selling or hard selling. Also if you can schedule as many ppl as possible to the same visit that way even if you lose it offsets the penalty for the loss of influence. CF25 recruiting isn’t hard and after a few hours ppl should figure out the system fairly quickly.
This is so wrong. You should use sway as early as possible in order to get 2 possible pitches. Then you can hard sell + soft sell for max influence. Also u can sway and soft sell early on in order to get bonus influence
@@agroumoutisthis is correct …sway is one of the best tools you have if you are using a low tier school where it’s likely your best schools attributes dont line up with theirs
@@astrosfan5288 I don't think so since Hard Sell is 40 hours and the most hours I have seen available to put into a recruit is 75. That said, you can soft sell 2x so if you are trying to decide between 2 pitches you could do both. Idk how effective that is though.
@@astrosfan5288 from week to week, sure, but you shouldn't hard sell unless you know the 3 green. Once you use a hard sell, you have to stick with it, because if you get rid of it, it's greyed out and you would then have to soft sell or sway to different motivations. IMO once you hit the right hard sell, you keep it on until they commit. Or if you're losing them and can't add more hours, just give up and go find their replacement by searching for someone with zero offers. Easy to get someone to fall in love with your school midway thru the year and you're their only scholarship.
Pat attention to the green arrows, count them. A lot of times early, you get more green arrows using 40 hours on all the activities rather than 50 for send the house. When you combine the hard and soft sells with those and get the most green arrows you get the biggest impact, this has helped me a ton. When a school with more prestige than is dramatically further ahead and offered a scholarship it's best to back away and use your points. Also when building a team scout for the first couple of weeks and then start pushing for gems that you're in the top 5 of, wasting time on a guy Alabama or another high prestige team is going for can ruin your class.
@@ihateskete2675 it all depends on total points you can spend per recruit. Pretty sure you can only do one pitch per but can combine with other regular pitches if you have enough points. I have the best luck combining soft sells with contact family.
I found the perfect formula for me , but I'm also a 4 star school now in franchise , you hard sale early on the guys you want but I got 75 points I also friends and family, each week you change depending on how close the next school is, so if you got a big lead on a 5 star you can dial it back on him n hard sale on someone you not 1st , as soon as you can do a visit or hard sale you do it if you only have two checks sometimes you can go out to his deal breaker , whatever his deal breaker is will be one of his green checks that will help you hard sale earlier, but yea each week you or two you need to be changing up yo approach depending on how far ahead or behind you are
You also gotta play with your lead. If you’re sitting at #4 and they about to hit top 8; maybe spend your hours on the guy about to hit top 5 when you’re at 6/7.
This! If I'm firmly in a players top 5, I'll put my hours into a recruit where I'm not and worry about the other guy when he drops to five. Same with top 3.
How to use the sway option was probably the most helpful. I used this option in my first dynasty with Coastal Carolina on a 4 star gem (can’t remember position because I didn’t get him, most likely athlete.) I didn’t know you had to remove the sway pitch to use a hard or soft sell (still could afford since I could spend 75 points on a recruit), so the one I wanted to hard sell was locked. Thought the feature was useless. 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Is it still better to hard sell if your school has terrible grades in their 3 ideal categories? Obviously you should Sway if you have time but you don’t always have the time to do that.
I need to know when to back out in pursuing a player..also when dealing with 5 stars should i go all out? Or do i avg my hours out equally amongst the 35 recruits? I started with Memphis 400 hours n yr 2 bumped up to 600 hours
Spreading out your hours equally is a recipe for disaster if that means you aren't maxing out players. 4-5 stars and even some 3 stars need a lot of attention, especially when you're a smaller school with less hours. I recommend going all out for most 4 and 5 star.
Preseason you should pull in all the top level stars you can3/4/5 depending on your school that season and scout them to remove any best or highlight the gems. If you have hours left repeat the process with the next level down graded players. Once you get maxed out the preseason should allow you to fully scout about 40 players while offing 35 scholarships. Priority should be given to guys you have a higher pipeline score with. I believe it acts as a multiplier to the interest gained. If you are pipeline 2 and a pipeline 5 school is interested, if you don't have a huge lead (1/4 of the bar?), you are never going to get that player.
If you hard sell and it was the ideal pitch would you keep that same action the next week or would you select a different action like sending the house?
Was wondering if for the scenario you were neck and neck with that one recruit, if you could load a save and see if it plays out differently resulting in you getting the commit vs the other team? Or is it pretty much set in stone you’re gunna lose?
Here is a tip i found. If you are behind on a recruit. Dont worry as he progresses into his top 5 or 3. You cna overtake other teams because the AI recruiting doesnt notice it and you can make a major jump when he enters his top 3. Sometimes they keep hours in for high end players like top 5 stars or 5 star gems but still a good idea not to give up too early
I'd disagree with this. Especially in the first year or two when you don't have the ability to spend 75hours on players. If you are even recruiting and the other schools pipelines +2 or more you should move on. Time is too precious to waste on a player that is likely not heading your way anyways.
I rarely hard send i usually send the house and schedule visits. It usually move me to number 1 on their board but ill usually end up losing recruit after being number 1 all season. So i assuming i need to hardsell?? To get them to commit after im number 1 ??? Someone help me please
Idk about yall but I still hard sell on low grades you can still get the commit and also to save hours for other players I soft sell tell it’s the week of the recruits visit them I hard sell
This doesn’t go over when you should use each recruiting action. Should I hard/soft sell if I have a yellow grade as one of the checked priorities? What’s the difference in sending the house vs soft sell or hard sell when they don’t match up with 3 greens?
@@cbaiia If selling is an option, you should be selling. 2green and a yellow is fine, unless you are competing with elite programs with a +2adv in pipeline.
Just for clarity the Bordeaux comment is false. They do actually have have legit influence. However as far as the actual reason that doing soft sell, family and DM have less impact then just hard sell is because the impact isn’t guaranteed. You can do do all 3 and the only option that works that week or for that recruit may be the DM. The arrows are the max influence that action can have, but doesn’t guarantee that’s the influence they will have
Idk if you figured it out but you have to back out of that guy after you erase the soft sell. Then click on a random guy then go back to the original guy and hard sell the one that won't be blocked anymore
Bro I can’t get more than 6 people to commit to my team. I’ve recuited all season long sending the house, setting up a visit. I’ll be the #1 school with a big lead over the 2nd school and then all of a sudden boom they commit to a different school.
Go after guys with no offers and go after guys in your pipeline, they’re much easier to recruit, if you dont have many recruits by the transfer portal, throw all the 3 stars with no offers an offer as well as send the house and you should be able to consistently be able to get 15+ players in. Also schedule visits as soon as you can.
What if I’m using a 1 star school and two of my grades are good (in the Green, B+, A-) and one grade is had (D-), do I still hard sell? Or will it hurt me due to the one bad grade ?
I would also suggest that you soft sell at the same time you try to sway. Soft sell even if you know their ideal pitch and sway to a better pitch if you can. If you are successful you can follow up the next week with that Hard sell.
So, if I have this right... Send the house until you know ideal pitch. Once you know ideal pitch, hard sell if you are graded high, sway if you have a better score on an alternative?
@@tubbylightquestion if all my grades are bad do I even take the chance in soft or hard selling if i Know the pitch? Typically low star schools wont have good grades? If so do I stick to send the house the whole way through
Anyone else having an issue swaying hard sell soft sell? It just says i dont have enough hours! Havent been able to hard sell one player in any of my dynastys .
Anyone else have a glitch where you can’t hard/soft and sway pitch? Always says not enough hrs even though they’re a couple hundred. Any help/advise appreciated
Its counts to your hours that you can spend on that player week to week. Basically you cant send the house and hard sell at the same time unless you have maxed out your recruiting tree
I just finished my first year and in the first week of preseason heading into my 2nd year it only lets me send scholarships to recruits (the add action button is greyed out) is this normal ?
You say that “the next week {after a soft sell} that you would have went in and hard sold.” But when I undo a pitch of any kind, that pitch is locked out and I can’t use it again. Is this a glitch or am I missing something?
I have had this happen, I think it is one of the bugs in recruiting right now. Sometimes the hours are incorrect. I have had success backing out of the recruiting page and going back in and that seems to fix most issues including being able to do the pitch.
I enjoy playing the game but I must ask this honest question.... how is going through all the recruiting b.s. fun and enjoyable? Seems like a lot of work to me for not much reward.
It could be my OCD tendencies but I thoroughly enjoy looking for better prospects to play with the next year. I recently played a Dynasty with Baylor where I found a 5 star QB that had crazy speed, deep throw acc, and throw power. It allowed me to explore more of the playbook. For defense I like finding the fastest MLB I can user with. After playing an entire season you figure out what your team's deficiencies are and I enjoy trying to fix them. For me, it feels even better when you start with a lower tier program and somehow manage to pull a superstar talent.
There is little to no value in chasing a dead dog....aka a far better team/establishment with more hours. Cut yer loss on those...they gone! Free up said hours to hit the gems...it is especially rewarding....and.... if you get Gems which need to be offered...then through the house etc on them....Unless they are being head-hunted also.
Nah I realized it was my team prestige being too low anything under 3 stars is 700 hrs max. My team hit 4 star prestige after winning the natty and we instantly got 1200 hrs that offseason. I actually started out with a trash school (Temple) so it was difficult to recruit who I wanted vs who I could get but I made it work with only 400-700 hrs for 3 yrs.. My first year only had 400 hrs 😂
I would agree, unless you have a really bad score in a category or two (D/F). I would hard sell 2 green and a yellow all day. So long as you aren't trying to get a 4 star player to a 1 star program immediately you should be ok.
Wonderful me son. But you never say when to use the pitches, vs just using the top ones. You said you would tell us, but ya didn't. Known liar confirmed. Nice job me son.
**SECRET TIP I FOUND** Lets say you want to hard sell a recruit that is close to committing and you only have two of their three motivations (so missing one for the perfect pitch) if you hit LB to go back to the players "OVERVIEW" it will show your their "DealBreaker" which is 50% of the time that third motivation thats greyed out. Hope that helps! @tubbylight
Anyone else getting a glitch a lot where you can't schedule visits with random recruits even when you are in the top 3? Super annoying losing guys you have at #1 and can't schedule them for a visit because it's locked
Yep had the same thing happen to me. Lost out on a Micheal Vick type QB 😢
yeah it's really messing up my chances with a lot of guys. Happens to 1 or 2 guys every cycle and it's always the ultra competitive ones.
You have to remove the current hours then schedule a visit
@@shanekurtzhals1987 You have to remove the current hours then schedule a visit
@@jok3r_tr1ckster96 You have to remove the current hours then schedule a visit
I think the sway thing is the most important explanation, especially if you're at a school with only a few good sells
Also their dealbreakers are always part of the hard sell! I’ve used it to go hard sell early
It’s pretty easy to find their best pitch when this happens you just have to take a couple seconds to see which one it would be
Yes this is huge! Always, always check if they have a dealbreaker. Sometimes it’s information you already know, but sometimes it’s not and that makes the difference, especially when at a small school. You might be able to start hard selling big recruits much earlier.
I do to that. If his deal breaker isn’t a green check but I got two others that are green check I go use a hard sell on that until I found the dealbreaker is highlight and line up with the other two interests.
@@corywallen4137 if you're number 1 on a prospects list by a solid amount and his deal breaker triggered after you used points on him, don't take him off your list. 9/10 times he'll commit to you on signing day. This has happened when I had a four star gem FS with Sam Houston. I got to his number 1, no one else did anything and he locked me out, still signed with me lol. It's happened several times but he was the best one that did it
If you have 2 possible ideal pitches, I’ve had success soft selling both and switching it to hard sell when I find out which one it is, both preserving good contact and budgeting hours. Might be coincidental, but it’s been pretty consistent
How do you go from a soft sell to a hard sell? When I try that, the pitch that I need to use for hard sell is locked because I used it for hard sell and every other pitch will be all X's.
Offline Dynasty :- I have had 8 top 5 , four of those were #1 overall, recruiting classes. I rarely us sway. My singular focus is to get 5* scholarship asap...in first 3 weeks, the Pipeline, then Open....if they are not interested, I cut them loose. The best time, I've found, of recruiting is actually scouting players (if you have the hours) to look for those 4-5* or 3-4* players. I also found that the later the recruiting season goes on....3-4* gems pop up amazingly. Another thing I do is use EVERY single hour as I can on my gems.
out of curiosity, is your school in TX, FL or CA?
Wait does scouting the player generate interest from the player? I just got the game and thought I had to check dms at the cheapest to tell a player I’m interested
@@tlit no offering the scholarship IS the communication "letter or email" or whatever that they would receive. DM'ing the player is just having the HC in direct text communication with the player like I once had with one of my prospect college coaches myself. Its sort of extra but not what is required. And no. Scouting doesn't help unless you really want to know their top stats or compare to another similar player on your board so you can choose between them and save points elsewhere.
@@tlit Offering a scholarship is most important. Then hours spent(with correct options under sell), and pipeline score.
Once you upgrade your recruiting in coach abilities you can stack a hard sell on a soft sell. If you sway them you’ll have two ideal pitches to use and then it’s pretty much wraps for other schools
I never thought of that. I need to try this thank you
Seems like a lot hours to commit. 70 the first week, if successful 60 the next. I've haven't found the need to do this kind of over spend very often. Maybe year 7-8 if you've maxed everything and have stacked top 5 classes, you might as well aim for all the 5stars.
Real ones know this is gold. I've tested this out multiple times and it is by far the best combination you can use if you are desperate.
@@anubiam3004if u aren’t using your max hours on every person u aren’t recruiting right. U don’t recruit with minimum hours like 30 per person. U put everything into your earliest recruits in order to get them committed and get your hours back. Otherwise ppl like u are probably just trying to manage 35 guys all with 20 hours each. And getting no one
someone please explain this to me like im 5 lol
first season at Southern Miss (2-star school) and got eight 4-star recruits from utilizing a double up method after using Sway ... If their motivations are similarly in line with another motivation trio then you can Sway a person into another high school attribute of yours that can then be used to Soft Sell (20), Hard Sell (40) and optionally DM a player for the remaining 5 if you have 65 points available to invest in any particular player position. I've outraced & outbid some of the biggest schools such as Ole Miss & Miss State for top tier talent even as just a little Sun Belt school. Its like Sending the House on steroids. And if you keep your list short enough in the early stages & only go for top talent, the method works absolute wonders despite lacking the hours of big schools.
How many players do you initially add to your board when recruiting becomes available to you?
@@CoryWilks24 12-20
YOU SHOULD BE GETTING THEM IN ON A VISIT ASAP!!!!
HARD SELL AFTER YOU SCHEDULE A VISIT. THEY COMMITT AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE WHEN YOU GET THEM IN
Thanks !!
I've been doing the exact opposite, almost never using visit. I value my hours that get used on other players too much. By week 4/5 when the 4/5 star key recruits are decided, I might use visit to win a close recruiting battle. Without knowing coach abilities, pipeline, and school grades there becomes too many variable to know which are the most important.
The visits are hard because they only do games later in the season and they rarely make it that far in my experience.
Needed this info so bad. Lost all my 5 star recruits yesterday 😭
SAMEEEE
IMO sway is pointless and should never be used. It’s a massive waste and you’re better off 99% of the time soft selling or hard selling. Also if you can schedule as many ppl as possible to the same visit that way even if you lose it offsets the penalty for the loss of influence. CF25 recruiting isn’t hard and after a few hours ppl should figure out the system fairly quickly.
This is so wrong. You should use sway as early as possible in order to get 2 possible pitches. Then you can hard sell + soft sell for max influence. Also u can sway and soft sell early on in order to get bonus influence
@@agroumoutisthis is correct …sway is one of the best tools you have if you are using a low tier school where it’s likely your best schools attributes dont line up with theirs
I've had success getting to hard sell as soon as possible
Same here
Can you do multiple hard sells?
@@astrosfan5288 I don't think so since Hard Sell is 40 hours and the most hours I have seen available to put into a recruit is 75. That said, you can soft sell 2x so if you are trying to decide between 2 pitches you could do both. Idk how effective that is though.
@@astrosfan5288 from week to week, sure, but you shouldn't hard sell unless you know the 3 green. Once you use a hard sell, you have to stick with it, because if you get rid of it, it's greyed out and you would then have to soft sell or sway to different motivations. IMO once you hit the right hard sell, you keep it on until they commit. Or if you're losing them and can't add more hours, just give up and go find their replacement by searching for someone with zero offers. Easy to get someone to fall in love with your school midway thru the year and you're their only scholarship.
@@SpankinYaBoy I mean hard sell one week and then the next week. Would it still benefit you even if you’re their number 1 now?
Thank you for this. I have been avoiding sways and pitches. Now I realize why I've lost so many recruits I put a ton of hours into.
I’ve mastered everything about recruiting except the Sway and never understood it until now. Great detail!
Lost three five stars in my Umass rebuild today from missing the hard sell by a week so this was needed. Thanks brother
Pat attention to the green arrows, count them. A lot of times early, you get more green arrows using 40 hours on all the activities rather than 50 for send the house. When you combine the hard and soft sells with those and get the most green arrows you get the biggest impact, this has helped me a ton. When a school with more prestige than is dramatically further ahead and offered a scholarship it's best to back away and use your points. Also when building a team scout for the first couple of weeks and then start pushing for gems that you're in the top 5 of, wasting time on a guy Alabama or another high prestige team is going for can ruin your class.
Facts counting the green arrows is definitely a game changer !
How do you combine pitches, mine only ever have 3 checks and when you go to pitch the other one it’s locked
This video literally says the green arrows are irrelevant
@@JamesEarlRayMLKregardless of what is said about them. In my experience using them, I've had substantially better classes paying attention to em.
@@ihateskete2675 it all depends on total points you can spend per recruit. Pretty sure you can only do one pitch per but can combine with other regular pitches if you have enough points. I have the best luck combining soft sells with contact family.
I love the recruiting because it’s very realistic outside of the visit glitch and only thing it needs is to flip the recruit
I found the perfect formula for me , but I'm also a 4 star school now in franchise , you hard sale early on the guys you want but I got 75 points I also friends and family, each week you change depending on how close the next school is, so if you got a big lead on a 5 star you can dial it back on him n hard sale on someone you not 1st , as soon as you can do a visit or hard sale you do it if you only have two checks sometimes you can go out to his deal breaker , whatever his deal breaker is will be one of his green checks that will help you hard sale earlier, but yea each week you or two you need to be changing up yo approach depending on how far ahead or behind you are
Thank you for this! I too only looked at the influence vs hours benifits and never saw a use with sway.
Be sure to upgrade your coach recruiting tree to get your scouting earlier and have more hours with recruits.
The first video I have found that gave me tangible explanations and a blueprint going forward. Thank you lol
If you have 1 green check or 2 green checks you can kindle figure out which pitch it is, they always have a combination
You also gotta play with your lead. If you’re sitting at #4 and they about to hit top 8; maybe spend your hours on the guy about to hit top 5 when you’re at 6/7.
This! If I'm firmly in a players top 5, I'll put my hours into a recruit where I'm not and worry about the other guy when he drops to five. Same with top 3.
THIS WAS NEEDED, THANK YOU JESUS
I never use hard or soft sell or sway and I’ve built a juggernaut at Oklahoma. Won National Championship in 2028 and team is 91 OVR, 91 OFF, 92 DEF
How to use the sway option was probably the most helpful. I used this option in my first dynasty with Coastal Carolina on a 4 star gem (can’t remember position because I didn’t get him, most likely athlete.) I didn’t know you had to remove the sway pitch to use a hard or soft sell (still could afford since I could spend 75 points on a recruit), so the one I wanted to hard sell was locked. Thought the feature was useless. 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Is it still better to hard sell if your school has terrible grades in their 3 ideal categories? Obviously you should Sway if you have time but you don’t always have the time to do that.
Yes, still hard sell
Was hoping to find out whether or not your supposed to hard sell just once or stay on it multiple weeks
Great video brother!
So is lvl 50 cap for your coach? Bc im lvl 50 with 51 being my next lvl but only getting the xp and its not moving to 51
Very informational, thank you tubby! This should sharpen the edges in my recruiting 😀
I need to know when to back out in pursuing a player..also when dealing with 5 stars should i go all out? Or do i avg my hours out equally amongst the 35 recruits? I started with Memphis 400 hours n yr 2 bumped up to 600 hours
Spreading out your hours equally is a recipe for disaster if that means you aren't maxing out players. 4-5 stars and even some 3 stars need a lot of attention, especially when you're a smaller school with less hours. I recommend going all out for most 4 and 5 star.
Preseason you should pull in all the top level stars you can3/4/5 depending on your school that season and scout them to remove any best or highlight the gems. If you have hours left repeat the process with the next level down graded players. Once you get maxed out the preseason should allow you to fully scout about 40 players while offing 35 scholarships. Priority should be given to guys you have a higher pipeline score with. I believe it acts as a multiplier to the interest gained. If you are pipeline 2 and a pipeline 5 school is interested, if you don't have a huge lead (1/4 of the bar?), you are never going to get that player.
If you hard sell and it was the ideal pitch would you keep that same action the next week or would you select a different action like sending the house?
Was wondering if for the scenario you were neck and neck with that one recruit, if you could load a save and see if it plays out differently resulting in you getting the commit vs the other team? Or is it pretty much set in stone you’re gunna lose?
Here is a tip i found. If you are behind on a recruit. Dont worry as he progresses into his top 5 or 3. You cna overtake other teams because the AI recruiting doesnt notice it and you can make a major jump when he enters his top 3. Sometimes they keep hours in for high end players like top 5 stars or 5 star gems but still a good idea not to give up too early
I'd disagree with this. Especially in the first year or two when you don't have the ability to spend 75hours on players. If you are even recruiting and the other schools pipelines +2 or more you should move on. Time is too precious to waste on a player that is likely not heading your way anyways.
Great video! Very well explained
How is the CPU able to schedule visits on week 15 and 16? That’s after the regular season is over. We are not allowed to schedule during those weeks
The week after sway, you gotta stack hard & soft sell!
I’ve noticed some players have more influence from Soft Sell than Hard Sell.
Thanks for doing this video you said you would and u did
Isn’t it more towards the recruit if you simply use the other options, it gives you way more green arrows
All he did was read what the descriptions already say....never says when to use pitches vs everything else.
Do pitches stack? On some players i do 3 soft sells instead of sending the house and dming but idk if that actually works
In my second season, when i pitch, it only highlights one motivation but previously did 3. Did i mess something up ?
So in your last example, had you scheduled a visit earlier than the competing college, do you think he would’ve come to your school?
I soft sell and also sway once it’s narrows down to allow you to
W video. Thanks man
very helpful, thanks for make this~
Aye go bearcats❤🖤 I’m going to subscribe
I rarely hard send i usually send the house and schedule visits. It usually move me to number 1 on their board but ill usually end up losing recruit after being number 1 all season. So i assuming i need to hardsell?? To get them to commit after im number 1 ??? Someone help me please
Idk about yall but I still hard sell on low grades you can still get the commit and also to save hours for other players I soft sell tell it’s the week of the recruits visit them I hard sell
Any chance are you from Delco? You got a hard delco accent lol
This doesn’t go over when you should use each recruiting action. Should I hard/soft sell if I have a yellow grade as one of the checked priorities? What’s the difference in sending the house vs soft sell or hard sell when they don’t match up with 3 greens?
Pitching > sending the house, hard sell > soft sell
What about when you don’t have 3 green checkmarks? 2 greens and 1 yellow, should I pitch or send the house?
If you don't know the full ideal pitch, I typically soft sell
@@tubbylight appreciate you trying to help but that’s still not the answer to my question
@@cbaiia If selling is an option, you should be selling. 2green and a yellow is fine, unless you are competing with elite programs with a +2adv in pipeline.
Just for clarity the Bordeaux comment is false. They do actually have have legit influence. However as far as the actual reason that doing soft sell, family and DM have less impact then just hard sell is because the impact isn’t guaranteed. You can do do all 3 and the only option that works that week or for that recruit may be the DM. The arrows are the max influence that action can have, but doesn’t guarantee that’s the influence they will have
If sway doesnt work and my grades are C+ for one or two of the hard sells, should I do it anyway or is C+ too low to be effective?
Sometimes I click hard sell then it switches to soft sell.... these bugs are so damn annoying
I’ve seen it a lot where if I soft sell a specific pitch it is locked when I go to hard sell it the week after.
Idk if you figured it out but you have to back out of that guy after you erase the soft sell. Then click on a random guy then go back to the original guy and hard sell the one that won't be blocked anymore
Bro I can’t get more than 6 people to commit to my team. I’ve recuited all season long sending the house, setting up a visit. I’ll be the #1 school with a big lead over the 2nd school and then all of a sudden boom they commit to a different school.
Go after guys with no offers and go after guys in your pipeline, they’re much easier to recruit, if you dont have many recruits by the transfer portal, throw all the 3 stars with no offers an offer as well as send the house and you should be able to consistently be able to get 15+ players in. Also schedule visits as soon as you can.
What’s more important.- schedule visit or hard sway?
Hard sell IMO. I almost never visit.
@@anubiam3004 I agree. It has worked better for me. Thanks
I just straight up cannot hard/soft sell pitch AT ALL like 90% of the time.
Is there a requirement that’s needed before you can hard/soft pitch?
Recruit must be in at least top 5 phase.
They need to fix the recruit glitches
They fixed ultimate team patches and added more players. Really shows you how they released an unfinished product
stupid question, but do you hard sell/soft sell every week until they commit or you cut em?
yes, unless you gain a big lead then you can use the hours on another player. If you fall behind with a lower pipeline, I'd also suggest moving on.
What if I’m using a 1 star school and two of my grades are good (in the Green, B+, A-) and one grade is had (D-), do I still hard sell? Or will it hurt me due to the one bad grade ?
That’s why he was saying to sway it to something you are better in and try to drop the D- one
I would also suggest that you soft sell at the same time you try to sway. Soft sell even if you know their ideal pitch and sway to a better pitch if you can. If you are successful you can follow up the next week with that Hard sell.
So, if I have this right...
Send the house until you know ideal pitch.
Once you know ideal pitch, hard sell if you are graded high, sway if you have a better score on an alternative?
Yep and visits as soon as possible
In general, yes. But I rarely sway tbh
@@tubbylightquestion if all my grades are bad do I even take the chance in soft or hard selling if i Know the pitch? Typically low star schools wont have good grades? If so do I stick to send the house the whole way through
@@alexperez1320 if your grades are bad in their interests then you should try swaying them to a more favorable pitch.
I lost out on four 4 stars because of the visit glitch. Fortunately someone posted a work around on Reddit.
Anyone else having an issue swaying hard sell soft sell? It just says i dont have enough hours! Havent been able to hard sell one player in any of my dynastys .
This ish realistic af!! Frfr
Anyone else have a glitch where you can’t hard/soft and sway pitch? Always says not enough hrs even though they’re a couple hundred. Any help/advise appreciated
Its counts to your hours that you can spend on that player week to week. Basically you cant send the house and hard sell at the same time unless you have maxed out your recruiting tree
Why would you do anything other than send the house if it is more hours?
Theres not really much that matters into the top 5 use those extra hours to stay 1st easier than coming back from behind
I just finished my first year and in the first week of preseason heading into my 2nd year it only lets me send scholarships to recruits (the add action button is greyed out) is this normal ?
Yes you can only scout and sent scholarships in preseason
You say that “the next week {after a soft sell} that you would have went in and hard sold.” But when I undo a pitch of any kind, that pitch is locked out and I can’t use it again. Is this a glitch or am I missing something?
I have had this happen, I think it is one of the bugs in recruiting right now. Sometimes the hours are incorrect. I have had success backing out of the recruiting page and going back in and that seems to fix most issues including being able to do the pitch.
I enjoy playing the game but I must ask this honest question.... how is going through all the recruiting b.s. fun and enjoyable? Seems like a lot of work to me for not much reward.
It could be my OCD tendencies but I thoroughly enjoy looking for better prospects to play with the next year. I recently played a Dynasty with Baylor where I found a 5 star QB that had crazy speed, deep throw acc, and throw power. It allowed me to explore more of the playbook. For defense I like finding the fastest MLB I can user with. After playing an entire season you figure out what your team's deficiencies are and I enjoy trying to fix them. For me, it feels even better when you start with a lower tier program and somehow manage to pull a superstar talent.
This game is beyond boring. Haven’t played in week and don’t plan on it
@@parkerC1990s to each their own, hope you find something you like better
If you find the recruiting not fun then nothing we say will change that. Maybe just let the cpr do your recruiting for you and just play the games
I auto skip most of the game, unless its close late. The recruiting is the game, but I'm nerdy like that.
Anyone know why I try to schedule recruits for big games (top 25; rivalry) but there is a lock on it?
I think the player is on a visit with another school that week? Lock isn't usually there the first week visits are available.
Wait so is the soft and hard sells more impactful than just sending the house?
Yes, once they move to top 6 you need to be switching.
Oh. Should have watched this before asking in chat.. lol
Thanks bruv
If you soft sold Aries Yancy on starter and hard sold him on Tv Time you would’ve definitely got him over Ohio State🤓
There is little to no value in chasing a dead dog....aka a far better team/establishment with more hours. Cut yer loss on those...they gone! Free up said hours to hit the gems...it is especially rewarding....and.... if you get Gems which need to be offered...then through the house etc on them....Unless they are being head-hunted also.
How are you able to hard sell a pitch you’ve already soft sold? They become locked for me
Remove the soft sell and the pitch should be available for hard sell I think
Can't hard and soft sell the same skill sets the same week.
what’s the best setting for Auto subs
Can’t lose out on “Sam TAINT” 😂
is there a glitch i cant hard sell soft sell of sway it says i dont have to hours availible even tho i do have hours left
Recruit must be in the top 5 phase for these options to be open.
Go Bearcats!
How sway?
so is hard sell better than send the house? i dont get it
yes, and spends less hours! Send the house generates interest to keep you in top5/8, once you get there you have to sell your program.
Is it ok to stay in hard sell until they commit
yes.
I know how to recruit but how do I get 1000 hrs like some people I've seen on yt
Maxed out coaches after a season or 2/3 depending on your sliders and coach XP gains.
Nah I realized it was my team prestige being too low anything under 3 stars is 700 hrs max. My team hit 4 star prestige after winning the natty and we instantly got 1200 hrs that offseason. I actually started out with a trash school (Temple) so it was difficult to recruit who I wanted vs who I could get but I made it work with only 400-700 hrs for 3 yrs.. My first year only had 400 hrs 😂
So hard selling is more influential that sending the full house 🤔
The interface needs to be more clear in the game. Everyone is just guessing.
I used sway 1 time and it rejected for 2 weeks. Waste of time
I would agree, unless you have a really bad score in a category or two (D/F). I would hard sell 2 green and a yellow all day. So long as you aren't trying to get a 4 star player to a 1 star program immediately you should be ok.
Netter dame
NCAA 25 players when 50>40 😤😤😤😡😡🤬
Wonderful me son. But you never say when to use the pitches, vs just using the top ones. You said you would tell us, but ya didn't. Known liar confirmed. Nice job me son.
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Why yall still playing this broken sim dynasty is my question?
**SECRET TIP I FOUND** Lets say you want to hard sell a recruit that is close to committing and you only have two of their three motivations (so missing one for the perfect pitch) if you hit LB to go back to the players "OVERVIEW" it will show your their "DealBreaker" which is 50% of the time that third motivation thats greyed out. Hope that helps! @tubbylight