The fact that a woman in this day and age has to get a court order to make decisions about her own body and protect her health is disgusting. We might as well be living the Handmaid's Tale.
It's not your body it's a body inside your body. You give it nutrients just like you do to a newborn baby. You don't share a single organ or body part with the child growing in your womb. How can you woman be so vile???
This is so disturbing. To think that you have to go to court to save your life and then have a crazy prosecutor say that he will still try to prosecute this poor woman is vile and inhumane!
The courts may not be a safety net for these women. The Texas AG is threatening to go after the people involved in the process. This is a sad situation for this woman and many women like her.
She didn’t have to go to court. She could have gone to another state that allows abortions. She chose to go to court. I wonder if she has been given advice by pro abortion groups using her case for publicity.
@@AB-jz9nsthe way conservatives did with that made up supreme court case about the gay website nobody asked the conservative to make? Funded by right wing billionaires like the Coch brothers
@AB-jz9ns why the F should she have to go to another state. Its her state. She should have the rights to stay alive and not carry a baby that she knows is gonna die while risking her fertility, without having to travel across the country. Youre insane
The woman Ana was talking about was in my hometown. They made her stay pregnant and the baby did die after birth. I can only imagine the pain both her and her husband went through, this baby was wanted, and how they had to explain it to their other children.
@@vatricegeorge- you are cold to the point of evil. I live in Ireland where abortion was illegal till a few years ago and saw a women go through an unviable pregnancy to term. The trauma was horrendous and she never went on to have another child. I’m not sure if that was out of fear or she was unable. Do you need this woman to die for you you to be ok with the termination of an unviable pregnancy? Women have died in Ireland because of doctors fears of termination to save their lives. In my experience the most ‘pious’ people are the most cruel towards women.
Read up on the information yourself. But just so you know anytime a woman is pregnant her life is in danger and her health is being impacted by the pregnancy. The mortality rate for women is the highest of any 1st world country. And almost 1 in 5 end up Miscarried in the first trimester anyway.
It can be sure if there was some dangerous killer infection or something going on his "down there" or "inside of him" Mr.Paxton will want the surgeon (s) to get rid of it to save his own survival and not lock up whoever that got rid of the whatever would have killed him. Maybe Mr.Paxton and those that are with him are to get sued if this woman were to die or unjustly damaged,or her fetus and reproductive abilities. Probably should be sued if he and others had the doctors and staff locked up,too. Lock him up, instead.
This is extremely sad…. Really really sad. They would never ever try to take away our bodily rights as women here in England….The courts and government would never try this
@@RandomFromValleyOfTheWindapples and oranges.....in canada even the most of conservatives would never dare interfere with a doctor and the woman...unheard of...its a non issue here
Falling birthrates and xenophobia. If citizens don't have babies then they'll have to resort to immigration to keep the population up. They just used religious people to get it done.
97% of abortions are done out of convenience .that's it that's all...medical decisions should be made but 97% of the time it has nothing to do with the health or mother or child
I agree that this situation should not involve other people or the government! Religion should not be a discussion point unless you are committed to a faith/religion. This is an example of most people using religion to force others to their will...
If this woman passes away to the attorney general force, he should be charged with first degree murder. The attorney general is not a licensed medical advisor or physician to the patient. It's a crime to impersonate a licensed medical physician in the USA and holds prosecution of that or those individuals. That's what's up🙌
Conservatives only want government out of our lives when it comes to helping average people. They are for big government in most other cases when they can f-over regular people
People say that but then they have their hands out to demand tax money and government aid to bail them out of the terrible decisions they make as a result of their “freedom”
I am pro life but I don't force my beliefs on others because I know Abortion covers so many services and it comes to a woman's right. The way as I want my rights to be protected, so do women who are not pro life because it's been unfairly interpreted Women every where regardless of country fight for your rights , you have a voice, and your body is yours and answer only to your creator ...this is supposed to be a woman, family, doctor and her faith..everybody else back off for goodness sake.
We live in the 21st Century, when the Catholic Church is no longer credible. You said "I don't force my beliefs on others because I know...." That's really big of you. So many Catholics force their beliefs on non-believers, you have to apoligize for them. The simple Correct Answer is, if you're raised in the nonsense of Imaginary Jesus, we ignore you. You will never have to answer to a Creator. The universe existed for nine billion years before there was an earth. Nobody created us. That's just the facts. Apoligize for your nonsense all you want. Science doesn't care what you believe.
@@Lerian_V Someone can believe deeply that abortion is wrong but not advocate for making it illegal. I will say that the term “pro-life” is a misnomer. This horrific Texas law makes that clear 😓
Family planning provides many services. Abortion is part of those services. And it must be kept as an option. I respect Pro-Life positions but it must be applied to all situations, including feeding all children, house them, educate them, provide medical coverage, and many other items. The US has so many starving children. That is horrible for the ‘richest’ country in this world.
I wonder if Paxton will lend his support to this women's husband, just like the many husbands and partners along with their children after their partners/mothers die from health complications. I wonder where he will be?
Sad day that the state would allow someone to have to deal with more grief than already on them by having to deal with delivering a baby they know won't live.
Haha yea, Sarah is smarter than what she said there about not having the votes. I think she may have been trying to FIND neutrality where there wasn’t. You vote in a new Congress essentially every 2 years sooooo, the election is next year and who is to say they will not THEN have the votes. Republicans need SOMETHING to say they passed to bring home to their base soooo they will do anything that is red blood for their base and create disinformation for low information citizens that do and do not vote
One of the lawyers in that case, Molly Duane, also represents Ms. Cox. In the court hearing on Thursday, Ms. Duane argued that her client qualified for an abortion under the state bans’ medical exceptions and asked the court to bar the state from enforcing the bans against Dr. Karsan, so that the doctor could proceed with the abortion without fear of punishment. A doctor convicted of performing an illegal abortion in Texas can face a prison sentence of up to 99 years and fines of at least $100,000. Johnathan Stone, a lawyer for the Texas attorney general’s office, argued that Ms. Cox’s pregnancy did not meet the “elements of the medical exception to Texas’s abortion laws,” citing a different doctor’s assessment of her condition. Ms. Duane said that the state’s argument underscored the confusion over what standard would be used to assess a doctor’s determination that a patient meets the medical exception, leading many doctors to avoid performing abortions at all.
The judge said her order would protect Ms. Cox’s doctor and other workers at the hospital who would be involved in an abortion procedure, as well as Mr. Cox, all of whom might otherwise face legal liability under the Texas bans.
The judge is a fellow human being. To think like this is nothing extraordinaire. A majority of the country shares this ideal. Is just that republicans rule in minority,.. Sick system.
As a man, I feel comfortable leaving the decision whether or not to keep a child in the hands of women, specifically the woman that carries it. That’s crazy that they could still get sued so I’m hoping they get their ruling expanded specifically. They’re grieving and wanted the baby but it’s not a “not yet”. That’s not fair at all.
I live here in Texas I can’t for the life of me understand why people keep voting in a crook like Paxton this is not his business men obviously can’t understand what a woman goes through her life is in jeopardy and he’s playing politics which is unacceptable
I glad that in Canada, a woman can have an abortion all the way to 14 weeks of pregnancy, for whatever reason, without the consent of the partner and paid by the health care system. Looking at what is going on in the US brings women’s rights to the 1950’s.
I’m a staunch progressive and practically never agree with conservatives but if the panel has to have a conservative, I want it to be Alyssa. She’s the best one this show has ever had
Oh Alyssa. This a case for why setting limits on abortion is a problem! She said 15-20 weeks should be the threshold for restrictions. When there are restrictions, it puts the onus on the woman to prove she qualifies for an abortion. It creates cases like the one.
It's so heartbreaking that these sorts of family decisions were made privately 10 years ago without issue. Now, women have to go to insane lengths...and its weird to celebrate that a judge has to allow you to make a decision over your body. This country has TOO MUCH PATRIARCHY
Our technology has come so far now that I do think a 20 week ban is appropriate. In my province a woman had to give birth at 21 weeks and the baby survived for 90 minutes. I was always a great believer if there was a cut off 24 weeks should be it. I have personally moved to 18-20 weeks, just based on feasibility of the fetus.
@@shannonbrice8012 its not your right to decide for women their medical decisions. you dont want an abortion dont get one. no cutoffs. its literally healthcare
18 weeks is the earliest that you get your deep level scan and the latest is usually 22 weeks, the courts agreed viability was 24 weeks and that covers almost every circumstance, exception the rarest and most devastating. Basically this is already been decided and we should let it lay (Casey vs Planned Parenthood)
@@ked147971 I’m sorry but it’s not a medical decision if your life is fine and so is the baby’s. Now you just want to murder that child after 20 weeks.
I don’t understand why there still needs to be any restrictions, none of y’all named MD after your name . Why are you all up in my business🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ it’s not that hard to get m… stay out of my house and body please and thank you🫠🫠🫠
Texas has never been consistent when it comes to abortion. Roe V. Wade revolved around a woman who was afraid she would not have the resources if she would need to get an abortion. Texas should have just not tampered with anyone’s reproductive rights.
@@jeniffermercedes7993 Then what he should’ve said was that he will appeal the decision. Not that he will defy the judge’s ruling and prosecute anyone and everyone who lawfully partakes in the abortion. Completely ridiculous.
@@sarahjessicaanistonlopezsh6999 I think you mean to say, "Neither of them are very bright". Your inability to form a grammatically correct sentence shows who isn't very bright..
As a man, I had to briefly deal with the abortion option 40 years ago. Nothing like dealing with it as a woman, but it isn't just rhetoric for me. Fortunately, it was not necessary (my then girlfriend only missed her period only, and she was a single mother with 3 kids aged 2-7 and her finances alone would have made it really hard. My issue with these regressive policies is a simple question: What part of "choice" do these people not understand? Or as Hillary Clinton very succinctly put it, "Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion." Those whose beliefs and principles do not want to go down the road of an abortion, it's their right to make their choice. BUT not to impose it on other women and families. And for those who use Christianity as an excuse to do so, reality check: Jesus never said anything about it one way or another.
I'm sorry as a Christian I believe seperation of Church and State, Religion should not rule we went thruogh this, with the Puritans bring the stockades if you don't go to Church on Sunday!!
"Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, has been to three different emergency rooms in the past month, and her doctors have told her that early screening and ultrasound tests suggested her pregnancy is "unlikely to end with a healthy baby," and due to her two prior cesarean sections, continuing the pregnancy puts her at risk of "severe complications" that threaten "her life and future fertility."
The Texas Suprreme Court issued a temporary stay on Friday which means this lady cant have the treatment she needs. Their ruling gave no time frame as to when they would look at "this issue" again.
Besides nominating *Cheato* in 2016, overturning Roe was the single biggest Republican blunder in modern history. They'll lose the next ten elections over this issue. And deservedly so.
You obviously do t understand what overturn roe v wade is. It gave each state the right to deal with abortion as it sees fit. Which means each state can vote to keep abortion legal or not. Killing babies is wrong period!!!
This shows how DUMB VOTERS ARE..we don't care about the economy, immigration, crime, education...we just care about being able to delete our babies...97% of abortions are not this example..it's women that want to do anything they want and not have to deal with the consequences
@@donfarrington3240 even in this woman’s case where her foetus will not survive, she may die, giving birth, or she may never be able to have any other children?
A Texas judge granted a request on Thursday to allow an abortion despite the state’s strict bans, ruling in the case of a pregnant woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition. The case is believed to be among the first attempts in the nation to seek a court-approved abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year and allowed states to enact their own abortion restrictions. The judge, Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County district court, sided with the woman, Kate Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, and issued a temporary restraining order to permit her doctor to perform an abortion without facing civil or criminal penalties. The judge, a Democrat, agreed with Ms. Cox’s lawyers that the procedure was necessary to protect Ms. Cox from a potentially dangerous birth, and to preserve her future fertility.
The ruling applies only to Ms. Cox, though it represents another front in an effort to force Texas, which bans most abortions from conception, to allow abortions under the medical exceptions to its prohibitions. A separate lawsuit, brought by a group of Texas women who say they were denied abortions under state law, asks the state to clarify the conditions in which medical exceptions would apply. Since the Supreme Court eliminated the federal right to abortion in 2022, more than a dozen conservative states have enacted abortion bans or severely restricted the procedure. The bans generally allow limited medical exceptions. In some of those states, women represented by abortion rights groups have sued to clarify when the procedure could be performed, or to have the bans overturned.
Those suits were filed after women were denied abortions. In some cases, the women claimed that they suffered harm to their health as a result, or were forced to leave the state, at significant cost, disruption or risk, to seek abortions elsewhere. What made Ms. Cox’s case different was that she sought a court order while still pregnant. Ms. Cox’s fetus was found to have trisomy 18, a genetic condition that in all but very rare cases leads to miscarriage or stillbirth, or to the infant’s death within the first year. Her lawyers said she had visited the emergency room four times because of pain and discharge - including once after her suit was filed on Tuesday - but that doctors had told her that under Texas law, she had to continue her pregnancy.
Ms. Cox, 31, could be seen wiping away tears from her eyes as she watched the judge issue the decision in the video proceeding with her husband, Justin. She said in an interview on Tuesday that she and her husband, who live in the Dallas area and have two young children, hoped for a big family and never planned on having an abortion. The Texas attorney general’s office, which argued on Thursday against granting the order, could seek the intervention of a higher court. After the ruling, Attorney General Ken Paxton sent a letter to top hospital officials in Houston, where Ms. Cox’s doctor practices, saying she and hospital staff could still face criminal and civil penalties, despite the judge’s order.
Marc Hearron of the Center for Reproductive Rights and one of Ms. Cox’s lawyers said that Mr. Paxton was misrepresenting the judge’s order. “He is trying to bulldoze the legal system to make sure Kate and pregnant women like her continue to suffer,” he said in a statement. Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the issue of abortion has become a political liability for Republicans nationally. But Mr. Paxton was recently re-elected to a third term with the backing of hard right Republicans in Texas, where the Republican primary remains the critical election contest for statewide offices. Texas is at the forefront of states that restrict abortion, and has three overlapping bans that outlaw abortions from the moment of fertilization, and allow private citizens to sue others who help a woman obtain an abortion. The laws provide for some limited exceptions to save the health and life of a pregnant woman. Abortion rights advocates argue that those provisions are unclear and put women with pregnancy complications at risk. The Texas Supreme Court, the state’s highest civil court, is currently weighing a broader effort by doctors, women and abortion advocates to clarify the medical exceptions under the law in a separate case, Zurawski v. State of Texas, brought by the Center for Reproductive Rights.
UPDATE 12/9/23 The Texas Supreme Court has halted the judge’s decision so now she can’t get an abortion. Sick and twisted decision - this woman’s life is in danger!
Clearly this is a case where a woman needs to have an abortion. The sad part is most abortions are because a woman only cared about her reproductive rights after the fact. And uses it as a form of birth control. And that is why this is such a hot button topic. Abortion should be allowed in cases of medical necessity or in cases of forced pregnancy by rape and incest. However, the majority of women who choose abortion do so to end a healthy pregnancy after a consensual encounter. *Yes, accidents happen so both partners should be using birth control to practice their reproductive rights.
Miss Lindsey is now advocating for Federal law to allow abortions up to 15 weeks. Miss Lindsey, supposedly, believes the states should decide this. He wanted Roe overturned because he felt the Federal Government should not be involved in this but NOW he is advocating for a Federal law. Give me a break!
What's insane about the whole situation is that the woman, herself is left out of the decision process altogether. What's just as ridiculous and demeaning is that the woman's life is stacked against the fetus and the biases of misogynistic and chauvinistic mindsets.
I’m a Christian and I do believe abortion is morally wrong, however you can not judge someone without passing judgement on yourself, and not everything is black and white and this case is so heartbreaking. I find it real disgusting how men are threatening this woman with legal action for trying to save her unborn child from even more pain, her life and any future life she may carry. I am not American. I am British, from Scotland. If this woman reads this, please know God loves you and is FOR you. Not against you. Blessings ❤
Get used to it, buddy. Unfortunately there will be many more sad and heartbreaking stories just like it until we have a legislative majority in Congress to enshrine a woman’s right to choose into federal law.
I hear what they're saying but as a 25-year-old. I personally know two women who have got 2 and 4 abortions. Alot of people are using abortion as birth control and it's sick. We need a 2-strike rule or something. When does it become deemed as obsessive?
@@annzeeg4217 there’s more options than your limited mind can think of. On your second abortion, I think birth control should be mandatory after that, like an IUD or something
@@TiktokTownhall Maybe your limited mind should know that those things are illegal you can't force someone to use birth control and there's no way to ensure that they will take it or keep the IUD. If they were this responsible we wouldn't be having this conversation 🙄
So why don't we redefine an ABORTION....why don't we call this situation something else other than AN ABORTION.....this term can't just be generalized.....because the exiting of a fetus is not generalized/or the same....
Hard to believe some outsider who is not willing to care for financially or otherwise for a forced birth and/or consequences of complications, has a say in the matter !
If it's our right and our choice to end our pregnancy then why does pro choice impose restrictions on 22 weeks or 24 weeks? If it's my body, my choice what is the point, why do we restrict or impose a time limit? Can anyone answer that?
The 22-24 week limit for abortions encompasses the time when a fetus is usually viable outside the womb. Even then such a premature birth requires much medical care for the baby. This is the standard set by the Roe V Wade decision. Some countries such as Canada have no restrictions. Nevertheless their abortion rates are lower than the U.S. Under the standard set by Roe many states had restrictions on late term abortions but gave much more deference to a woman’s rights to the healthcare she needs and a doctor’s ability to give whatever healthcare the patient needs. The Dobbs decision stripped that away.
@@marshatolbert154 I agree, you bring up very valid points and thank you for that but that sill doesn't answer the question as to why the restrictions and that late term Abortion is not allowed. I will point out that most countries have restrictions. I understand the Canada issue and I get the standard set as you said "whatever health care the patient needs. I don't think that is a dividing line. I do however see that restrictions are in place and nobody seems to offer an explanation. I just find it odd that late term offers so many weeks. I will point to Roe or our rights or our choice when in fact you only have certain rights, only a choice until such a time. That is in my view a real problem. No wonder this is such a hot button issue. The Dobbs decision can also fall under this question as to why?
@@stevereed8786 The simple answer is that Republicans want to control women. That’s why the Texas law was written in such a vague way. The law that governs Georgia regarding abortion is much the same. The point is to be vague and impossible to interpret. As you can see in the case in question, although Ms. Cox’s own doctor believes an abortion is necessary, the Texas A.G. argued that she didn’t meet the requirement to allow abortion. Control of women is the point, not logic or care for mothers or children.
The fact that a woman in this day and age has to get a court order to make decisions about her own body and protect her health is disgusting. We might as well be living the Handmaid's Tale.
For real. See the abusers at the voting booth 💙💙💙💙
now say that about the Covid jab to show you are consistent
It's not your body it's a body inside your body. You give it nutrients just like you do to a newborn baby. You don't share a single organ or body part with the child growing in your womb. How can you woman be so vile???
Actually, her very life,
This is so disturbing. To think that you have to go to court to save your life and then have a crazy prosecutor say that he will still try to prosecute this poor woman is vile and inhumane!
Exactly.
The courts may not be a safety net for these women. The Texas AG is threatening to go after the people involved in the process. This is a sad situation for this woman and many women like her.
She didn’t have to go to court. She could have gone to another state that allows abortions. She chose to go to court. I wonder if she has been given advice by pro abortion groups using her case for publicity.
@@AB-jz9nsthe way conservatives did with that made up supreme court case about the gay website nobody asked the conservative to make? Funded by right wing billionaires like the Coch brothers
@AB-jz9ns why the F should she have to go to another state. Its her state. She should have the rights to stay alive and not carry a baby that she knows is gonna die while risking her fertility, without having to travel across the country. Youre insane
The woman Ana was talking about was in my hometown. They made her stay pregnant and the baby did die after birth. I can only imagine the pain both her and her husband went through, this baby was wanted, and how they had to explain it to their other children.
I don’t care how pro life you are! Expecting someone to carry a child that could possibly kill that person is sick!
Where are the medical experts and or reports that states she will die giving birth to the baby?
@@vatricegeorge- you are cold to the point of evil. I live in Ireland where abortion was illegal till a few years ago and saw a women go through an unviable pregnancy to term. The trauma was horrendous and she never went on to have another child. I’m not sure if that was out of fear or she was unable. Do you need this woman to die for you you to be ok with the termination of an unviable pregnancy? Women have died in Ireland because of doctors fears of termination to save their lives. In my experience the most ‘pious’ people are the most cruel towards women.
Read up on the information yourself. But just so you know anytime a woman is pregnant her life is in danger and her health is being impacted by the pregnancy. The mortality rate for women is the highest of any 1st world country. And almost 1 in 5 end up Miscarried in the first trimester anyway.
@@vatricegeorgelook it up yourself! You have a freaking phone! Google the case! The audacity of you ppl. How did you graduate? 😂
They probably didn't graduate... xD@@aishariel9924
absolutely insane that she had to go to court to save her own loss. DISGUSTING! This country and TX in particular is DISGUSTING.
TX is a rotten state. Full of hypocrisy.
"And that's why we shouldn't be in a theocracy"
- Sunny Hostin
We don't
If you don't want an abortion don't get one but you don't have the right to choose for others.
Ken Paxton is a special kind of evil.
And I bet he’s paid for a mistress to have an abortion. It all comes out with these awful republicans.
That's putting it nicely. If put what I think of the POS, I'd be banned.
I mean look at him look at how he looks he looks evil .
It can be sure if there was some dangerous killer infection or something going on his "down there" or "inside of him" Mr.Paxton will want the surgeon (s) to get rid of it to save his own survival and not lock up whoever that got rid of the whatever would have killed him.
Maybe Mr.Paxton and those that are with him are to get sued if this woman were to die or unjustly damaged,or her fetus and reproductive abilities.
Probably should be sued if he and others had the doctors and staff locked up,too.
Lock him up, instead.
He probably thinks trisomy 18, which the fetus has, is like his lazy eye condition.
Now imagine all of the women who don't have the means to take their cases to Court. This is so sad.
This is extremely sad…. Really really sad. They would never ever try to take away our bodily rights as women here in England….The courts and government would never try this
Lol, the same way brexit could never happen? Don't understimate peoples foolishnes.
@@RandomFromValleyOfTheWindapples and oranges.....in canada even the most of conservatives would never dare interfere with a doctor and the woman...unheard of...its a non issue here
As an outsider....what does abortions' have to do with the government? I dont understand why this is anybody's business but the couple🤷♀
Falling birthrates and xenophobia. If citizens don't have babies then they'll have to resort to immigration to keep the population up. They just used religious people to get it done.
It's a way for religiously-minded people to control women and their perceived sexual behavior.
This should have been a decision between her and her Doctor, and now national NEW what have we become????
97% of abortions are done out of convenience
.that's it that's all...medical decisions should be made but 97% of the time it has nothing to do with the health or mother or child
@saramill2097 pregnancy isn't contagious
@saramill2097. Again, Sara? You’re really not very bright, are you. 😆
I agree that this situation should not involve other people or the government! Religion should not be a discussion point unless you are committed to a faith/religion.
This is an example of most people using religion to force others to their will...
@saramill2097 who says pregnancy is contagious? Please cite your source
If this woman passes away to the attorney general force, he should be charged with first degree murder. The attorney general is not a licensed medical advisor or physician to the patient. It's a crime to impersonate a licensed medical physician in the USA and holds prosecution of that or those individuals. That's what's up🙌
How disgusting that she had to go to court for this outcome. FYI America.... you are NOT the greatest country in the world.
Having to ask a judge to approve a procedure that will save your life........Welcome to Gilead.
They will NEVER leave women alone! Vote them out! 🎀👊🦋
Government needs to stay out of people’s lives.
Conservatives only want government out of our lives when it comes to helping average people. They are for big government in most other cases when they can f-over regular people
Yes they do!!
That's not what you said when you needed it's aid budy!
GOP needs to stay out of people's private matters. This is sickening.
People say that but then they have their hands out to demand tax money and government aid to bail them out of the terrible decisions they make as a result of their “freedom”
I am pro life but I don't force my beliefs on others because I know Abortion covers so many services and it comes to a woman's right. The way as I want my rights to be protected, so do women who are not pro life because it's been unfairly interpreted Women every where regardless of country fight for your rights , you have a voice, and your body is yours and answer only to your creator ...this is supposed to be a woman, family, doctor and her faith..everybody else back off for goodness sake.
You are NOT pro life. Being pro life means advocating for abortion ban.
There is so many situations like this where the baby is not going to survive and it becomes life threatening.
We live in the 21st Century, when the Catholic Church is no longer credible. You said "I don't force my beliefs on others because I know...." That's really big of you. So many Catholics force their beliefs on non-believers, you have to apoligize for them.
The simple Correct Answer is, if you're raised in the nonsense of Imaginary Jesus, we ignore you. You will never have to answer to a Creator. The universe existed for nine billion years before there was an earth. Nobody created us. That's just the facts. Apoligize for your nonsense all you want. Science doesn't care what you believe.
@@Lerian_V Someone can believe deeply that abortion is wrong but not advocate for making it illegal. I will say that the term “pro-life” is a misnomer. This horrific Texas law makes that clear 😓
Family planning provides many services. Abortion is part of those services. And it must be kept as an option. I respect Pro-Life positions but it must be applied to all situations, including feeding all children, house them, educate them, provide medical coverage, and many other items. The US has so many starving children. That is horrible for the ‘richest’ country in this world.
That AG is a criminal, acting like a slave owner would, going against the mother's best interest, against her doctor & a judge.
‘…special place in hel1’
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I wonder if Paxton will lend his support to this women's husband, just like the many husbands and partners along with their children after their partners/mothers die from health complications. I wonder where he will be?
Spot on Sarah .
Sad day that the state would allow someone to have to deal with more grief than already on them by having to deal with delivering a baby they know won't live.
Texas doesn't care about women.
Thank you Sara! @ 4:30
One of the strongest points she's ever made.
People use the "Gods will" manner of thinking when it's convenient for them
Exactly Sara. I always say that. If it's God will, don't take any life-saving measures. Mitch McConnell, stop taking all medicine and leave it God.
The Texas supreme court just halted the judge's ruling. These people just dont quit.
Sara was spot on !
We need ANA to explain to Sara that Alyssa's points are nonsense.
No we don’t.
Yes, we do!
Haha yea, Sarah is smarter than what she said there about not having the votes. I think she may have been trying to FIND neutrality where there wasn’t. You vote in a new Congress essentially every 2 years sooooo, the election is next year and who is to say they will not THEN have the votes. Republicans need SOMETHING to say they passed to bring home to their base soooo they will do anything that is red blood for their base and create disinformation for low information citizens that do and do not vote
@@StephsGarageJewelry No we don’t. She didn’t even say anything, anyway.
This is so disturbing
One of the lawyers in that case, Molly Duane, also represents Ms. Cox. In the court hearing on Thursday, Ms. Duane argued that her client qualified for an abortion under the state bans’ medical exceptions and asked the court to bar the state from enforcing the bans against Dr. Karsan, so that the doctor could proceed with the abortion without fear of punishment.
A doctor convicted of performing an illegal abortion in Texas can face a prison sentence of up to 99 years and fines of at least $100,000.
Johnathan Stone, a lawyer for the Texas attorney general’s office, argued that Ms. Cox’s pregnancy did not meet the “elements of the medical exception to Texas’s abortion laws,” citing a different doctor’s assessment of her condition.
Ms. Duane said that the state’s argument underscored the confusion over what standard would be used to assess a doctor’s determination that a patient meets the medical exception, leading many doctors to avoid performing abortions at all.
The judge said her order would protect Ms. Cox’s doctor and other workers at the hospital who would be involved in an abortion procedure, as well as Mr. Cox, all of whom might otherwise face legal liability under the Texas bans.
99 years!!?!
Talk about a screwed up system.
Ye gads.
@@kelleylegault5115 wait, what ?
Right on, Sara!!!! Let's NOT cherry pick God's "will". I'm so sick of hypocrite Teabaggers!
The judge is a icon!
The judge is a fellow human being. To think like this is nothing extraordinaire. A majority of the country shares this ideal. Is just that republicans rule in minority,..
Sick system.
As a man, I feel comfortable leaving the decision whether or not to keep a child in the hands of women, specifically the woman that carries it. That’s crazy that they could still get sued so I’m hoping they get their ruling expanded specifically. They’re grieving and wanted the baby but it’s not a “not yet”. That’s not fair at all.
I live here in Texas I can’t for the life of me understand why people keep voting in a crook like Paxton this is not his business men obviously can’t understand what a woman goes through her life is in jeopardy and he’s playing politics which is unacceptable
Understanding Sara’s perspective on this. 💯🧠
I lost my baby at 5 1/2 months. I miss her everyday 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Is this the 1700’s?
I glad that in Canada, a woman can have an abortion all the way to 14 weeks of pregnancy, for whatever reason, without the consent of the partner and paid by the health care system. Looking at what is going on in the US brings women’s rights to the 1950’s.
I’m a staunch progressive and practically never agree with conservatives but if the panel has to have a conservative, I want it to be Alyssa. She’s the best one this show has ever had
Agreed! She’s the antithesis of ME-ghan … empathetic, fun, and intelligent.
@@Catlady9689- and articulate.
She's not a conservative in any sense of the word.
what are you talking about haha she practically agrees with everything Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, etc. all stand for...@@MennoDerijk
@alexhanna2445 lmfao... mitt Romney and Liz Cheney are Rinos not conservative or Republicans.. you do know what RINO stands for don't you???
Oh Alyssa. This a case for why setting limits on abortion is a problem! She said 15-20 weeks should be the threshold for restrictions. When there are restrictions, it puts the onus on the woman to prove she qualifies for an abortion. It creates cases like the one.
It's so heartbreaking that these sorts of family decisions were made privately 10 years ago without issue. Now, women have to go to insane lengths...and its weird to celebrate that a judge has to allow you to make a decision over your body. This country has TOO MUCH PATRIARCHY
Alyssa is insane 20 weeks as a cutoff is way too early until the child is self-sufficient.
Our technology has come so far now that I do think a 20 week ban is appropriate. In my province a woman had to give birth at 21 weeks and the baby survived for 90 minutes. I was always a great believer if there was a cut off 24 weeks should be it. I have personally moved to 18-20 weeks, just based on feasibility of the fetus.
@@shannonbrice8012 its not your right to decide for women their medical decisions. you dont want an abortion dont get one. no cutoffs. its literally healthcare
Actually 70% of Americans agree with those terms. But there should be written exceptions like this one.
18 weeks is the earliest that you get your deep level scan and the latest is usually 22 weeks, the courts agreed viability was 24 weeks and that covers almost every circumstance, exception the rarest and most devastating. Basically this is already been decided and we should let it lay (Casey vs Planned Parenthood)
@@ked147971 I’m sorry but it’s not a medical decision if your life is fine and so is the baby’s. Now you just want to murder that child after 20 weeks.
I know what it’s like to want a child. To have that child taken in such a way is no place for government intervention - WHATSOEVER!
I don’t understand why there still needs to be any restrictions, none of y’all named MD after your name . Why are you all up in my business🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ it’s not that hard to get m… stay out of my house and body please and thank you🫠🫠🫠
Sara said the best thing but it goes one ear but out the other
Because Sunny and Ana always steam roll over her.
That word salad she spewed?
The AG wouldn’t have any case here. The judge has ruled.
You don't know Texas...
Texas has never been consistent when it comes to abortion. Roe V. Wade revolved around a woman who was afraid she would not have the resources if she would need to get an abortion. Texas should have just not tampered with anyone’s reproductive rights.
The Ag can appeal the decision
@@jeniffermercedes7993 Then what he should’ve said was that he will appeal the decision. Not that he will defy the judge’s ruling and prosecute anyone and everyone who lawfully partakes in the abortion. Completely ridiculous.
It's Texas.
This is cruel and disgusting. Texas is a nightmare.
I would sue that Ken guy for trying to murder me.
Touché
Absolutely!
You better speak Sunny and Ana 💯💯💯💯
Both of them Are not very bright
@@sarahjessicaanistonlopezsh6999 I think you mean to say, "Neither of them are very bright". Your inability to form a grammatically correct sentence shows who isn't very bright..
@@darrenhcook 😎👍
@@darrenhcook....🎉 WINNER 🏆
VOTE 💙
20 weeks!!! Nikki and Alyssa are for 15, (an arbitrary talking point)
none of their business, GOP ladies, leave women alone.
thank you! its between a mother and a dr
You spelled murderers wrong.
As a man, I had to briefly deal with the abortion option 40 years ago. Nothing like dealing with it as a woman, but it isn't just rhetoric for me. Fortunately, it was not necessary (my then girlfriend only missed her period only, and she was a single mother with 3 kids aged 2-7 and her finances alone would have made it really hard. My issue with these regressive policies is a simple question:
What part of "choice" do these people not understand? Or as Hillary Clinton very succinctly put it, "Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion." Those whose beliefs and principles do not want to go down the road of an abortion, it's their right to make their choice. BUT not to impose it on other women and families.
And for those who use Christianity as an excuse to do so, reality check:
Jesus never said anything about it one way or another.
Yes Sara!!!!!!
I'm sorry as a Christian I believe seperation of Church and State, Religion should not rule we went thruogh this, with the Puritans bring the stockades if you don't go to Church on Sunday!!
The government needs to stay out of people's bodies!!!
The crazy part is that she was pro life before it affected her.
There were people who didn't take there children to the hospitay and they died and they used Gods will as a reason, please are we going back to that!
That poor woman. My heart breaks for her. It's just a miscarriage with an insane amount of extra steps. 😥
I think it is ridiculous that they overturned Roe V Wade. Women should be able to get an abortion without going through all of this rigamarole.
"Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, has been to three different emergency rooms in the past month, and her doctors have told her that early screening and ultrasound tests suggested her pregnancy is "unlikely to end with a healthy baby," and due to her two prior cesarean sections, continuing the pregnancy puts her at risk of "severe complications" that threaten "her life and future fertility."
The Texas Suprreme Court issued a temporary stay on Friday which means this lady cant have the treatment she needs. Their ruling gave no time frame as to when they would look at "this issue" again.
Women vote for a Republicans if you want to have to go to court to save your life during pregnancy.
Ken Paxton used tax dollars to pay for his mistresses’ Ubers. He deciding what women can do with their bodies?…
Besides nominating *Cheato* in 2016, overturning Roe was the single biggest Republican blunder in modern history. They'll lose the next ten elections over this issue. And deservedly so.
From your lips to God's ears...
I certainly hoping you are correct.
You obviously do t understand what overturn roe v wade is. It gave each state the right to deal with abortion as it sees fit. Which means each state can vote to keep abortion legal or not. Killing babies is wrong period!!!
This shows how DUMB VOTERS ARE..we don't care about the economy, immigration, crime, education...we just care about being able to delete our babies...97% of abortions are not this example..it's women that want to do anything they want and not have to deal with the consequences
@@donfarrington3240 even in this woman’s case where her foetus will not survive, she may die, giving birth, or she may never be able to have any other children?
Here we are 2023! See you at the voting booth next year 💙💙💙💙. Waiting for another brilliant comment from Elizabethstanley
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Poor girl
the fact that this is where Women are at this time is OUTRAGOUS !
i remember when Margaret Atwood came of this show and explained this all to them but it went right over their heads.
A Texas judge granted a request on Thursday to allow an abortion despite the state’s strict bans, ruling in the case of a pregnant woman whose fetus was diagnosed with a fatal condition.
The case is believed to be among the first attempts in the nation to seek a court-approved abortion since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year and allowed states to enact their own abortion restrictions.
The judge, Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County district court, sided with the woman, Kate Cox, who is 20 weeks pregnant, and issued a temporary restraining order to permit her doctor to perform an abortion without facing civil or criminal penalties.
The judge, a Democrat, agreed with Ms. Cox’s lawyers that the procedure was necessary to protect Ms. Cox from a potentially dangerous birth, and to preserve her future fertility.
The ruling applies only to Ms. Cox, though it represents another front in an effort to force Texas, which bans most abortions from conception, to allow abortions under the medical exceptions to its prohibitions. A separate lawsuit, brought by a group of Texas women who say they were denied abortions under state law, asks the state to clarify the conditions in which medical exceptions would apply.
Since the Supreme Court eliminated the federal right to abortion in 2022, more than a dozen conservative states have enacted abortion bans or severely restricted the procedure. The bans generally allow limited medical exceptions. In some of those states, women represented by abortion rights groups have sued to clarify when the procedure could be performed, or to have the bans overturned.
Those suits were filed after women were denied abortions. In some cases, the women claimed that they suffered harm to their health as a result, or were forced to leave the state, at significant cost, disruption or risk, to seek abortions elsewhere.
What made Ms. Cox’s case different was that she sought a court order while still pregnant.
Ms. Cox’s fetus was found to have trisomy 18, a genetic condition that in all but very rare cases leads to miscarriage or stillbirth, or to the infant’s death within the first year. Her lawyers said she had visited the emergency room four times because of pain and discharge - including once after her suit was filed on Tuesday - but that doctors had told her that under Texas law, she had to continue her pregnancy.
Ms. Cox, 31, could be seen wiping away tears from her eyes as she watched the judge issue the decision in the video proceeding with her husband, Justin. She said in an interview on Tuesday that she and her husband, who live in the Dallas area and have two young children, hoped for a big family and never planned on having an abortion.
The Texas attorney general’s office, which argued on Thursday against granting the order, could seek the intervention of a higher court.
After the ruling, Attorney General Ken Paxton sent a letter to top hospital officials in Houston, where Ms. Cox’s doctor practices, saying she and hospital staff could still face criminal and civil penalties, despite the judge’s order.
Marc Hearron of the Center for Reproductive Rights and one of Ms. Cox’s lawyers said that Mr. Paxton was misrepresenting the judge’s order. “He is trying to bulldoze the legal system to make sure Kate and pregnant women like her continue to suffer,” he said in a statement.
Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the issue of abortion has become a political liability for Republicans nationally. But Mr. Paxton was recently re-elected to a third term with the backing of hard right Republicans in Texas, where the Republican primary remains the critical election contest for statewide offices.
Texas is at the forefront of states that restrict abortion, and has three overlapping bans that outlaw abortions from the moment of fertilization, and allow private citizens to sue others who help a woman obtain an abortion.
The laws provide for some limited exceptions to save the health and life of a pregnant woman. Abortion rights advocates argue that those provisions are unclear and put women with pregnancy complications at risk.
The Texas Supreme Court, the state’s highest civil court, is currently weighing a broader effort by doctors, women and abortion advocates to clarify the medical exceptions under the law in a separate case, Zurawski v. State of Texas, brought by the Center for Reproductive Rights.
UPDATE 12/9/23 The Texas Supreme Court has halted the judge’s decision so now she can’t get an abortion. Sick and twisted decision - this woman’s life is in danger!
Clearly this is a case where a woman needs to have an abortion. The sad part is most abortions are because a woman only cared about her reproductive rights after the fact. And uses it as a form of birth control. And that is why this is such a hot button topic. Abortion should be allowed in cases of medical necessity or in cases of forced pregnancy by rape and incest. However, the majority of women who choose abortion do so to end a healthy pregnancy after a consensual encounter. *Yes, accidents happen so both partners should be using birth control to practice their reproductive rights.
If it was Ken Paxtons daughter, he would side differently. It's the hypocrisy, because of donors for his pandering.
If it was Ken Paxtons daughter she has a lot more to worry about too
I hope this makes even conservative women stop and think.
The US is now Afghanistan. What a joke
Miss Lindsey is now advocating for Federal law to allow abortions up to 15 weeks. Miss Lindsey, supposedly, believes the states should decide this. He wanted Roe overturned because he felt the Federal Government should not be involved in this but NOW he is advocating for a Federal law. Give me a break!
What's insane about the whole situation is that the woman, herself is left out of the decision process altogether. What's just as ridiculous and demeaning is that the woman's life is stacked against the fetus and the biases of misogynistic and chauvinistic mindsets.
VOTE ALL REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE ! ALL OF THEM ! FOREVER!!!
And don't put orange hair in office
This woman might not like being the focus of stories or have her picture shown. Be glad when Republican slave sellers are punished.
I’m a Christian and I do believe abortion is morally wrong, however you can not judge someone without passing judgement on yourself, and not everything is black and white and this case is so heartbreaking. I find it real disgusting how men are threatening this woman with legal action for trying to save her unborn child from even more pain, her life and any future life she may carry. I am not American. I am British, from Scotland. If this woman reads this, please know God loves you and is FOR you. Not against you. Blessings ❤
Let's all stop saying pro life. There are anti choice, not pro life.
I didn't like hearing what Ana was saying about the lady in Florida holding her baby for 90 minutes
Try imagine BEING her
Get used to it, buddy. Unfortunately there will be many more sad and heartbreaking stories just like it until we have a legislative majority in Congress to enshrine a woman’s right to choose into federal law.
vote blue
Sara with the great points!!
It's not pro -choice. It's pro- control
I hear what they're saying but as a 25-year-old. I personally know two women who have got 2 and 4 abortions. Alot of people are using abortion as birth control and it's sick. We need a 2-strike rule or something. When does it become deemed as obsessive?
So you're saying these kinds of women should be mothers. Would you want one of them to be your mother?
@@annzeeg4217 there’s more options than your limited mind can think of. On your second abortion, I think birth control should be mandatory after that, like an IUD or something
@@TiktokTownhall Maybe your limited mind should know that those things are illegal you can't force someone to use birth control and there's no way to ensure that they will take it or keep the IUD. If they were this responsible we wouldn't be having this conversation 🙄
What are Paxton’s recommendations for Ms Cox’s condition? He seems to be an expert.
So why don't we redefine an ABORTION....why don't we call this situation something else other than AN ABORTION.....this term can't just be generalized.....because the exiting of a fetus is not generalized/or the same....
Hard to believe some outsider who is not willing to care for financially or otherwise for a forced birth and/or consequences of complications, has a say in the matter !
Thought Texas was big on freedom
Yeah taking it away.
Yeah freedom for rich white men.
Lawsuit is addressing an issue at 20 weeks, but a “compromise” is 15 weeks? Does anyone have a clue what the law was under Dobbs?
America operates in medieval times when it comes to Women’s Rights. Shame only you
Why is the governments nose even in this?
If it's our right and our choice to end our pregnancy then why does pro choice impose restrictions on 22 weeks or 24 weeks? If it's my body, my choice what is the point, why do we restrict or impose a time limit? Can anyone answer that?
The 22-24 week limit for abortions encompasses the time when a fetus is usually viable outside the womb. Even then such a premature birth requires much medical care for the baby. This is the standard set by the Roe V Wade decision. Some countries such as Canada have no restrictions. Nevertheless their abortion rates are lower than the U.S. Under the standard set by Roe many states had restrictions on late term abortions but gave much more deference to a woman’s rights to the healthcare she needs and a doctor’s ability to give whatever healthcare the patient needs. The Dobbs decision stripped that away.
@@marshatolbert154 I agree, you bring up very valid points and thank you for that but that sill doesn't answer the question as to why the restrictions and that late term Abortion is not allowed. I will point out that most countries have restrictions. I understand the Canada issue and I get the standard set as you said "whatever health care the patient needs. I don't think that is a dividing line. I do however see that restrictions are in place and nobody seems to offer an explanation. I just find it odd that late term offers so many weeks. I will point to Roe or our rights or our choice when in fact you only have certain rights, only a choice until such a time. That is in my view a real problem. No wonder this is such a hot button issue. The Dobbs decision can also fall under this question as to why?
@@stevereed8786 The simple answer is that Republicans want to control women. That’s why the Texas law was written in such a vague way. The law that governs Georgia regarding abortion is much the same. The point is to be vague and impossible to interpret. As you can see in the case in question, although Ms. Cox’s own doctor believes an abortion is necessary, the Texas A.G. argued that she didn’t meet the requirement to allow abortion. Control of women is the point, not logic or care for mothers or children.
If somebody’s using abortions like it’s birth control. That’s their business.
Sunny and Sarah did great this segment!
Tester case for this state- hope she is okay and does not have any repcurations
But didn't Mike Pence say 15 weeks is the cutoff, even if the life of the mother is at risk?
As an OB nurse, if the pregnancy will be harming mom, its a medical issue and will by done in hospital.
I don't want a standard 15-20 weeks or whatever. this is a decision between a MOTHER and DR. Like its simple, this is why Roe was so good.
Sarah 🔥
Sorry that happened to Alyssa 2 friends