I got the bino setup and love it. You have to make friends with it, but once you do, it is pretty darn good. You MUST have a good counterweight and I mean one that weights just as much as the binos. Quite heavy! Another thing that you MUST do is to super glue the threaded inserts for the dovetails down or they will come out and splat goes your NVG30 unless you are really lucky and just happen to be walking on your bed when it comes apart. I also tether them to my helmet for extra insurance. (note: screw on the dovetail and then gently pull (hard) on the dovetail until the inserts come out. Put a little bit of glue on each one and push it back together. If you can't pull it apart, then maybe they fixed that problem. Still tether it somehow just in case) I will say that when looking through two, the image seems to be slightly improved. But still, IR is needed when it gets very dark. This is where analog is much better. I use a hand held IR flashlight as it is way more convenient than the ones on the units (which are good). A little IR makes a huge difference. The key to being effective with these is making sure they are tweaked to your eyes/face/head and practice walking around with them until you are comfortable. One slightly irritating thing is the lag time. It isn't bad, but quick head movements will drive you crazy. Best to move your head slow or else close your eyes briefly while turning your head quickly. You can walk with these things, but running is going to be a challenge under anything less than ideal conditions. Make sure in settings that they are on 40hz. One more thing that I like is that it has 940nm IR light. I have an old gen2 analog that can't even see 940 at all. My phone can hardly see it. And 940nm IR is totally invisible to the unaided eye. None of that slight reddish glow when looking directly at it. Overall, I am very happy with the setup and am glad to pay 20% of analog binos for about 80% of the effectiveness.
@@LTsweaps Ohh I'm definitely not picking these up lol. I'm still leaning towards picking up some Elbit GP PVS-14's. Was just happy there was a video on the NVG30's with some info out there as I randomly stumbled across them and was curious.
@AlgerLapitan if you're not actively using it weekly, even monthly, digital is in my opinion superior, and i dont have to worry about damaging it. The pvs ends up being a paperweight.
Awesome review! You bring up an excellent point about the need for supplemental IR with regards to passive aiming and we do sell a few different ir laser/ illuminator combos on the website including a P4, MAWL C1+ and RAID-X clones which are all designed for airsoft(though we have been getting some good feedback about those devices holding up to 556). Will arrange for another NVG30 with Bino Bridge to be sent to you! Anybody else here interested in grabbing one of these can message me on the website, email or call if you have any questions. Thanks for an amazing review KRAKEN! Looking forward to seeing some more airsoft footage.
Thanks so much for stopping by! Super happy with my experience so far and can’t recommend these enough. Dying to check out that Bino setup, that would be insane! Really appreciate it, will do updates on my experience 👍🏻
Seems like a great unit. Especially for an entry device. Can just buy one and use no messing around. I managed to build a Gen2+ XR5 unit for €700 ($1000 CAD), ive dabbled into digital NVG too with a Night Eagle 3 V2, no comparison but still surprised how well digital holds up, somewhere in between gen 2 and gen 1, seems to preform better than my gen 1. Id say if someone just wants "an" device for an entry, NVG 30 is perfect but if you dont mind buying a cheap janky 3d printer(can pick one up used stupid cheap nowadays) or know someone that has one, can scavenge and find a messed up (but still useable, mine has plenty of blems) tube and dont mind the work, saving a bit more gets you an insane bump in quality of experience, but then again, digital works day and night with no adjustment, no real risk to damaging the camera inside by using at daytime, definitely worth weighing up pros and cons of each.
The downside of NVG 30 is it lacks the standby mode that many other NVs have. So the bright screen is always on or you have to power it off completely.
Here's a good question. (Perhaps a dumb question) Would someone looking through a pvs 14 see any light signature with the IR off? Is there anything that emits from the camera itself?
Yes but only if you turn it on. You don’t need it for most things. Also every one else is using ir gun mounted lights and lasers so it’s not the end of the world.
Any digital and even a lot of analog device are going to need IR at some point. Evrn My omni Gen 3 reaches its practical usable limits indoors or with no moon under dense canopy.
I find once it aligns with my unaided eye it's pretty spot on but every user's experience will differ slightly. What you won't need to do us bump up the mag to get to 1:1 and loose an already narrow vertical fov like with an aurora.
Hey Kraken, I got a Umarex UMP and was wondering what kinda mag pouches I should get and it would also be great if you could give me any tips about which magazines would be compatible - thanks 😊
lol I figured camera tech was going to go up because Microsoft had the contract to make digital nvg for military even cameras have gotten slightly better ( on low end gear not expensive) so the tech is getting more affordable because I think there’s something better but that’s just me
China has been issuing the NVG10s and NVG30s to its basic grunts. There are several videos of the PLA with them mounted on their helmets. Analog is still the way to go, but it is impressive that digital is getting closer to gen2 performance in low light. In ultra low light without IR illumination then analog is still king.
I have no clue if this video was out when the NVG40 was out (i know its a little newer) and I also have no clue if it was made by the same people (I'd assume so)... but it SUCKS compared to the 30, idk what they were thinking! and its even cheaper then the nvg10 if im correct... idk i forgor, anyways whats even funnier to me is they also have the NVG40 PRO which you think would be better BUT NO! It preforms EVEN WORSE but it just has more features, idk why they even MADE this thing, it just... sucks lmao but yeah i wanna get an nvg 30 some time
Forgot to mention the lag. They are ok for walking around at night, but not good for shooting. No one ever really talks about the lag in reviews. They are fun but not very practical.
As the market starts getting bigger for digital night vision youl see more higher end sensors come out that are dedicated to night vision and will produce much better results. Now unfortunately the sensors out now are far from the best that can be made. For example the best Sony cameras now can see better in the dark than humans can and that's also with a filter that blocks all IR light from coming in.
nv would make my outfit look lame i dont even dress in tactical gear jus all black and black air forces my chest rig i wear beanies and put my hoodie over it
I got the bino setup and love it. You have to make friends with it, but once you do, it is pretty darn good. You MUST have a good counterweight and I mean one that weights just as much as the binos. Quite heavy! Another thing that you MUST do is to super glue the threaded inserts for the dovetails down or they will come out and splat goes your NVG30 unless you are really lucky and just happen to be walking on your bed when it comes apart. I also tether them to my helmet for extra insurance. (note: screw on the dovetail and then gently pull (hard) on the dovetail until the inserts come out. Put a little bit of glue on each one and push it back together. If you can't pull it apart, then maybe they fixed that problem. Still tether it somehow just in case)
I will say that when looking through two, the image seems to be slightly improved. But still, IR is needed when it gets very dark. This is where analog is much better. I use a hand held IR flashlight as it is way more convenient than the ones on the units (which are good). A little IR makes a huge difference.
The key to being effective with these is making sure they are tweaked to your eyes/face/head and practice walking around with them until you are comfortable.
One slightly irritating thing is the lag time. It isn't bad, but quick head movements will drive you crazy. Best to move your head slow or else close your eyes briefly while turning your head quickly. You can walk with these things, but running is going to be a challenge under anything less than ideal conditions. Make sure in settings that they are on 40hz.
One more thing that I like is that it has 940nm IR light. I have an old gen2 analog that can't even see 940 at all. My phone can hardly see it. And 940nm IR is totally invisible to the unaided eye. None of that slight reddish glow when looking directly at it.
Overall, I am very happy with the setup and am glad to pay 20% of analog binos for about 80% of the effectiveness.
It’s a good day when kraken posts
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I was just looking at the NVG30's. Glad you made a video on them lol
Glad I could help! They are super solid
Glad you made a comment about them. I was also curious on what kind of answer you'd receive.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE please, just save your money and spend the cash for the real thing.
@@LTsweaps Ohh I'm definitely not picking these up lol. I'm still leaning towards picking up some Elbit GP PVS-14's.
Was just happy there was a video on the NVG30's with some info out there as I randomly stumbled across them and was curious.
@AlgerLapitan if you're not actively using it weekly, even monthly, digital is in my opinion superior, and i dont have to worry about damaging it. The pvs ends up being a paperweight.
Yeah I’ve had my NVG30 for a few months now and I get more and more impressed with it Everytime I take it out.
Awesome bro! Glad to hear that, looking forward to using them more and more 👍🏻
Awesome review! You bring up an excellent point about the need for supplemental IR with regards to passive aiming and we do sell a few different ir laser/ illuminator combos on the website including a P4, MAWL C1+ and RAID-X clones which are all designed for airsoft(though we have been getting some good feedback about those devices holding up to 556). Will arrange for another NVG30 with Bino Bridge to be sent to you! Anybody else here interested in grabbing one of these can message me on the website, email or call if you have any questions. Thanks for an amazing review KRAKEN! Looking forward to seeing some more airsoft footage.
Thanks so much for stopping by! Super happy with my experience so far and can’t recommend these enough. Dying to check out that Bino setup, that would be insane! Really appreciate it, will do updates on my experience 👍🏻
GL4 pro they work well together
Seems like a great unit. Especially for an entry device. Can just buy one and use no messing around. I managed to build a Gen2+ XR5 unit for €700 ($1000 CAD), ive dabbled into digital NVG too with a Night Eagle 3 V2, no comparison but still surprised how well digital holds up, somewhere in between gen 2 and gen 1, seems to preform better than my gen 1. Id say if someone just wants "an" device for an entry, NVG 30 is perfect but if you dont mind buying a cheap janky 3d printer(can pick one up used stupid cheap nowadays) or know someone that has one, can scavenge and find a messed up (but still useable, mine has plenty of blems) tube and dont mind the work, saving a bit more gets you an insane bump in quality of experience, but then again, digital works day and night with no adjustment, no real risk to damaging the camera inside by using at daytime, definitely worth weighing up pros and cons of each.
This in IR w/out illuminators plus the the Fusion in thermal as a bino setup would be pretty damned cool
The downside of NVG 30 is it lacks the standby mode that many other NVs have. So the bright screen is always on or you have to power it off completely.
your the literal operator drewski of airsoft, you got the same style of him, love it!
At some point digital NV will merge with gpu tech so you will get up scaling and/or higher frame rates.
Thank you father
Thank you for tuning in son
@@kraken_tactical do you like your ssr9 dsg better than your ssp5?
Great video. Can this be used with a gas mask, is the eye relief good enough?
What do you think about the nvg10? I love mine. I’ve made a couple modifications to it to make it better
Does the compass mode require wifi connection on the nvg 30?
Nope, never used mine connected to wifi
@@kraken_tactical nice. Thank you.
Everyone who has reviewed this unit have mentioned the sd card slot.... be no mention of the max capacity card u can use!
Here's a good question. (Perhaps a dumb question) Would someone looking through a pvs 14 see any light signature with the IR off? Is there anything that emits from the camera itself?
if other people have nods with analogue tubes, with the IR off in the nvg30, nobody can see you. Does not emit any type of light...
Is it possible to throw one of these on to a pvs14 mount?
With the ir flood light off would these give me away to someone else with nvgs at a night time air soft match?
Yes but only if you turn it on. You don’t need it for most things. Also every one else is using ir gun mounted lights and lasers so it’s not the end of the world.
Any digital and even a lot of analog device are going to need IR at some point. Evrn My omni Gen 3 reaches its practical usable limits indoors or with no moon under dense canopy.
Beautiful paintjob on your rifle.
Thanks!! 👌🏻
What battery pack is on your helmet?
How’s the magnification on this unit? True 1x? I have the night fox prowl and the 1x is ass. More like 2x.
I find it pretty solid, I don’t really have much to compare it to. I think it’s not quite a 1x almost feels more of a 0.8x or something. 👍🏻
I find once it aligns with my unaided eye it's pretty spot on but every user's experience will differ slightly. What you won't need to do us bump up the mag to get to 1:1 and loose an already narrow vertical fov like with an aurora.
wish they sold a version that comes without the IR light option so its less clunky wouldnt need it since i have one on my helmet and weapon
That’s actually a great idea!
Hey Kraken, I got a Umarex UMP and was wondering what kinda mag pouches I should get and it would also be great if you could give me any tips about which magazines would be compatible - thanks 😊
I wonder what the nvg30 can do with a telescope.
I want to see a duel set up!!
lol I figured camera tech was going to go up because Microsoft had the contract to make digital nvg for military even cameras have gotten slightly better ( on low end gear not expensive) so the tech is getting more affordable because I think there’s something better but that’s just me
China has been issuing the NVG10s and NVG30s to its basic grunts. There are several videos of the PLA with them mounted on their helmets. Analog is still the way to go, but it is impressive that digital is getting closer to gen2 performance in low light. In ultra low light without IR illumination then analog is still king.
The digital adnv g14p2 is on par with gen 2+ night vision.
Now you need a thermal clip on.
Agreed!
Do a video on your real steel plz ❤
For sure! 👍🏻
What’s a Canadian dollar
Basically a chocolate bar at this point 😂
The nvg30 price in my country is JACKED. It costs almost 30k😢
Second I heard Canadian I had to sub ❤️
Ayyye thanks bro 👍🏻
what gun is this ?
Black creek labs Siberian srv2 👍🏻
I have no clue if this video was out when the NVG40 was out (i know its a little newer) and I also have no clue if it was made by the same people (I'd assume so)... but it SUCKS compared to the 30, idk what they were thinking! and its even cheaper then the nvg10 if im correct... idk i forgor, anyways whats even funnier to me is they also have the NVG40 PRO which you think would be better BUT NO! It preforms EVEN WORSE but it just has more features, idk why they even MADE this thing, it just... sucks lmao
but yeah i wanna get an nvg 30 some time
Jerrod Street
This rifle is now RESTRICTED in Canada :(
Yup gotta love it
Look up the dnv-9
Forgot to mention the lag. They are ok for walking around at night, but not good for shooting. No one ever really talks about the lag in reviews. They are fun but not very practical.
As the market starts getting bigger for digital night vision youl see more higher end sensors come out that are dedicated to night vision and will produce much better results. Now unfortunately the sensors out now are far from the best that can be made.
For example the best Sony cameras now can see better in the dark than humans can and that's also with a filter that blocks all IR light from coming in.
@@kevinforget549 yup.i believe it. Just needs time
As a forever speedsofter…. I miss your speedsoft days
BINOS please
On the way! 👌🏻
$600 CAD? That’s like $24.99 USD… 😂
Not wrong 🤣
For those wanting something for SHTF situations, the IR requirement is like something that can get you killed
So is talking too loud, starting a fire etc. just a different tool that’s all.
10 seconds
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real steal so gay
No, no it’s not.
Analog gatekeeper?
@@JohnWalsh2019 owner of both, and it’s not even a comparison. My PVS-7 runs circles around these.
@@BamaPewPew and what was the cost to run circles around it?
@@JohnWalsh2019 I paid $1200 for it.
@@JohnWalsh2019 dont know why it wouldn’t let me comment the cost, but I paid twelve hundred for it.
nv would make my outfit look lame i dont even dress in tactical gear jus all black and black
air forces my chest rig
i wear beanies
and put my hoodie over it