Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 vs Triumph Street Twin vs Moto Guzzi V7 III | ROAD TEST REVIEW
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Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 vs Triumph Street Twin vs Moto Guzzi V7 III - full road test review of these retro classic motorcycles to help you decide which one you should buy... Does the budget Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 have what it takes to beat Triumph's beautifully engineered entry-level Bonneville or the classic transverse V-twin engined Moto Guzzi V7 III. Full test...
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Yes, sorry about the jackets! No, they're not product placement - I was just rushing to set the camera up to film ourselves before the rain came in and missed how prominent they looked. That's the problem with not having a camera operator! Hopefully you can still enjoy the video... John
Bennetts Bike it’s fine what a wonderful video. I was glued to it as I have new interceptor. Been off bikes for 45 years. Had Norton’s and BSA when I was young. Also raced outfits at snetterton Caldwell etc.
@@Lostoldman Thanks very much! Are you planning on getting another? Cheers, John
Bennetts Bike prob not I’m a bit old now. Pls more top trumps but must have interceptor
Tum log ki moto guzzi bhi lavde pe aur triumph bhi lavde pe....
Don't worry about it - just remember for next time.
Love my RE, one of the main reasons is I can work on it myself, it doesn't have to go to the dealer. And the cost allowed me to add stuff and change it to how I wanted it. Ownership rather than stewardship 😂
You have hit the nail on the head well pointed out.
completely agree. The enfield can be fixed by any half assed mechsnic.
I'm a massive fan for triumph but the Enfield is the one i would have
I ride an Interceptor but I want a Triumph....quite honestly there Triumph is a far superior Brand and bike. RE make cheap bikes. Period.
@@RajA-wi2ut lol Re interceptor appreciated all over the world. ..
I'm getting one myself too.
I really do like looking at the V twin of the Moto Guzzi, it does look like a work of art to me.
Love those heads sticking out. To me, it gives it an old prop airplane look, I get the same vibe on an R9T and that one even sounds like an old airplane. JMO of course...
Triumphs are 10 a penny, with reason but still
The only Guzzie I really loved was the Californian
It truly is 🤘🏽💪🏽
and intrigued by its shaft drive alone in its segment as far as I can see
I've ridden the Triumph and the Guzzi. The Triumph is a modern bike styled to look old. The Guzzi is an old bike that's been updated to meet modern regulation. By any logical measure the Triumph is the better bike but I still love the character of the Guzzi.
Great comparison. Personally, where a bike is made does make a difference to me and I wouldn't buy a Chinese manufactured bike for that reason. After watching this last year, I bought a V7 III Stone and absolutely love it.
You feel good riding the Guzzi knowing it was handbuilt buy a small village in the north of Italy.
Which is the Chinese manufactured bike?
All Japanese bikes are now made in China, Honda as I last heard was still made in Japan, but it won't be long until they too move to Chinese builder's.
@@philiprogers4071 none of these are Japanese bikes though. Italian, British and Indian.
Although yes most of the new classic Triumphs are made in Asia. But not China.
Considered all three but when I test rode the Street Twin, it was love at first ride (and side). Best bike for me, but I get the advantages the other two have and the price tag is considerable.
Shaft drive Guzzi for the win!🏁
It's like driving a RWD manual transmission car - that shaft and immediacy/connection to the gears is very pleasing, especially on downshifts. I'm actually not a fan of chains and their springy feel.
Joseph Oberlander
Agreed.
@Kung Fu Money Bee I get that, and if you are off-road, it's a must. But I can't honestly remember the last time I heard of a shaft going out without a fair amount of warning, barring obvious abuse and accidents and the like, of course. Some people have never had to do a service on theirs, even.
But here in India RE interceptor 650 will cost only 3000 pound whereas Triumph Bonneville T100 will cost you around 9000 pound.
Yahan.. Saste logo k liye sasti cheezen deni padti hain.. Cost cutting by adding cheap parts.. Whereas in foreign countries they use best components..
@@mohitpal9894 I don't think so, it could be due to some duty otherwise why is triumph bonneville cost 9 lakh in India where as it's 6000 pound( approximately 6 lakh ) in UK .
@@mohitpal9894 or vahi chutiye mehnge log saste me bike bechte h saal baad 😂😂😂😂😂😂,bike khareedna or baad me maintain krna jaroori h Spare parts cost and services cost bhi matter krti h yaha t120 ka tank kholkr lagane k 20k + lete h showroom vaale
@@mohitpal9894 Your opinion is based on taste and passion, but logically now many European, Japanese and Korean brands are implementing their factories in India for their economy and performance, for which an Intercept 650 in Colombia, my person has taken a speed of 190 KM / H still feels that it can walk much more ..
Yes......that + the arrogance of Triumph showrooms (Royal Enfield is no exception to showroom arrogance).
Interceptor 650❤️. Simplicity beats complexity everyday. Which means easier maintenance and easy repairs.
Are those Guzzi’s reliable?
@@JobyStaneslavose They are, at least the "classic" engine. I wouldn't rely much on the Italian electronics of a more modern v85TT, but v7 is apparently a very reliable bike from Internet people's experience
The triumph looks so well made but the guzzi is just art beautiful
Bold, putting out a nearly 50 minute video, but I really enjoyed the longer form analysis and hanging out with you three for a bit. Good stuff, John, cheers.
Thanks! Yeah, I gas on a lot; add two more people and it's a recipe for disaster but there's so much we wanted to talk about with these three bikes! Cheers, John
Loved the review! I have an Interceptor myself. Great video guys, but it seemed to me like the music intermissions were a bit too loud, compared to the rest of the audio. Keep up the good work though!
Absolutely.
I've recently purchased an RE650. Funny thing, I tossed up between exactly these three bikes (and only stumbled on your video today). I agree that the Triumph is probably the best machine, and I've owned 3 Guzzis in the past (and loved them all). But here in Australia, I found that for the cost of a second-hand Triumph (a few years old, a few dings and scratches), I could buy a brand-new RE (with all the bells and whistles and extra bits) and spend money on really lovely leather luggage from Tripmachine and STILL be about AUD$1-2k ahead.
So while both these machines are lovely, alas a Triumph is a top-end machine with a top-end price. A Guzzi is an Italian machine with Italian parts and Italian servicing and only one bloke in a thousand miles who can actually fix it as an authorised repairer. An RE is a falling-off-a-log simple bike that is easy to repair, pleasant to ride, will do the Ton if you want it to, and hugs the curves nicely.
So while it's very middle-of-the-road, It's the RE for me and I've not regretted it.
Fantastic! I'll be out on one again shortly and can't wait; just a truly lovely bike to ride. Cheers, John
I looked at the Triumph (expensive in Australia), rode the Enfield and bought the Moto Guzzi V7. They are all great, the Enfield surprisingly so (except your feet get pushed outwards by the mounts) but the 21litre tank, air cooling, shaft drive, euro manufacture, Brembo brakes, Hepco & Becker panniers (not for RE when I purchased) 6 gears, and the Guzzi V7 stone won. It’s the best all round bike I have ever had (perhaps new rear shocks) in 40 years of riding - brilliant.
Gone from a W800 (prettiest) to a Sv650 (fastest & handling) to a Street Twin (coolest & torque).
Fully enamoured with the Triumph effortless cruising, great detailing, great gearing, smooth and polished throughout and ohh that low end torque
Over the past year or so, I pondered long and hard about what new bike I would buy. Fairly early on, the RE Interceptor became the "baseline" choice, something to measure contenders against. I considered Triumphs, BMWs, even (very briefly) a Harley Davidson. In the end, the only contender left was the Guzzi V7. It ended up being the Interceptor, mostly because of availability and dealer support/enthusiasm.
Moto Guzzi all day. 2nd place would be a Triumph SPEED Twin. Had a STREET Twin as my first “real bike” and loved it. BUT the Guzzi from 2021 on with the increased engine performance has them all beat.
The Royal Enfield looks the most like a classic motorcycle.
The Moto Guzzi looks the most like a retro style motorcycle, but at the same time very distinct.
I would go for the RE. The classic styling is beautiful.
Great work guys , really brings across that it is not always about speed. Bikes in this league can be great for relaxing and enjoying the ride and scenery.
I have that exact chrome Interceptor so you know my vote. 😎
Triumph gets my vote. Only trouble is the temptation of the Speed Twin. How much it that........ And then there’s Triumph options list..... 🤑
I picked up my new V7 yesterday and on the 150 mile road home it gave me a good idea of what to expect.
The transverse twin sounds great and the side ways shaking is really different.
My 21 year old son who's really I to bikes fell in love with it's looks.
He said "that's how a bike should look".
Maybe I will let him have a ride or maybe not !
Not in the market for any of these bikes but what a great post, great format and easy listening walking the dog!
Excellent - thanks terry! John
Wow!! So many Guzzi lovers!! Back in the day I was on my Kiwi OE to Blighty and bought and rode a Guzzi V50II all around the isles and across Europe to Israel. I loved that little bike (I was ex-trail biker and thought 500cc was HUGE) and now I'm settled again (yeah...took a while!) will get another. Really like the VII white Stornello...anyway, all these bikes are cool (love the Interceptor too) so happy trails everyone and thanks for the fun and informative vids guys. Ride on.
Thanks John, really useful comparison and looking forward to your video on changing the rear shocks. Cheers, Andy
Moto Guzzi V7 III for all means. If you try all 3, Guzzi is the one that trasmits that feeling to me, the maximum pleasure when you are riding a motorcycle. Transverse engine, Shaf, Incredible sound with Agostini Exhausts, Fantastic Details, Quality Parts and a Beautiful Italian Design.
I love these long chatty reviews, really feel like I know something about the bike after I finish watching these. Keep it up!
Brilliant - thanks! John
With the latest update on the V7, this changes. It's much more attractive with the engine update and the new colorways. Really nice daily! I own a classic Speed Triple ('09) and it is the Street 10X. I love it. It's really fast and a bit demanding, and it draws people ALL the time. It's an emotional ride, for sure. But it also is constantly begging to be flogged, and it gives back when you do. But you simply can't do that all the time. Not getting rid of it, though!
I just found this video and it was a fun 49 minutes watching it. These gentlemen did a great job mixing the bits of discussion with riding footage. The data points were also informative. The only thing that I might add to the list of data points is 1 - Factory Service Intervals and 2 - Factory Service Costs. For me those two items are extremely influential in making a purchasing decision. Keep making great videos. Thank you.
Thanks very much, and we'll keep that in mind - good point. I am planning a closer look at servicing on the Royal Enfield this year. Cheers, John
The exact comparison I wanted to see!
Big Guzzista here.
The original V7 and V7 Sports were all based on what we call the big block motor.
In the mid to late 70's Guzzi came out first with V35, then the V50 and the V50 Monza followed by V65's etc and other sales disasters. These were called the small block motor, nice, along with split c/cases but nowhere near as robust as the big blocks (think Le Mans 1-5, Cali's for decades etc). The small blocks were sort of Morini 350 competition. And the modern V7 and new V85TT are all based on those original V50 small blocks, along with with the split cases, gearbox and swing arm design.
So really this is a V7 in name only, based more on a mid 70's new design.
Very true, l had a T3 way back when. Lovey big V twin.
Thanks for the very extensive review
Hats off for the presentation
I really enjoyed this revue. After seeing the test, I would not choose the Moto Guzzi. Don't like the styling, at all. Seems like the RE is a great bike and amazing value for money. Probably my choice. However, if I had plenty of money the Triumph looks like it is worth the extra. I don't have any money, so I will stick with my amazing do anything bike, a 1988 BMW K75 (naked base model). It takes me anywhere, from trackdays at Jerez to the Sahara and over the Atlas mountains in Morocco (last year).
Moto Guzzi all the way,and still made in Italy👍
"Made in Italy" is a warning label! 😄
thats the problem...some days wont even start for some reason...too much personality!!
Prejudices😉
Vibrates a lot
@@RaghunathSharma000 My V7 is smooth as can be. If you keep it in the powerband. Gets a little lumpy at low revs, but not in a bothersome way. Does vibrate quite a bit if you get too high in the revs. The 7200 rpm redline should be more like 6500 to avoid it.
Great vid & comparison. I really enjoyed the casual pub chat vibe you guys had going. I know it's not the best bike but I just can't help being drawn to the Guzzi. There's just something about it & I love that transverse V. I'm desperate for Guzzi to put their latest V85 TT engine into something like the V7 chassis or better still a new Griso.
V85TT mill in a V7 chassis, twin discs and a 1980 850 LeMans paint job complete with bikini fairing, for about 8 grand, I don't think they'd be able to make them fast enough
@@DomRivers67 Totally agree. Sounds great. What about a new 850 Daytona too? : )
They heard you, new one is 850
RE Interceptor 650 Is Love!!❤
This is very literally the decision I'm making now when deciding a motorcycle, but the calculus has changed with the V7. The V7 now runs an 850cc engine at 65 horsepower -- slightly more than the Triumph. The V7 Special has the extreme retro dash of the Enfield.
I think it takes my money.
Triumph is very much off their claims when it comes to horse power… the small twin in reality produces just over 50 hp
I’m in this choice too but with the z650RS and the V85tt in for consideration too 🤣🥹😭
@@MrTbirkett I bought the v7. Best choice I ever made.
@@hesham8 congratulations 🍾
@@hesham8 still happy with it? Any issues? I’m thinking of buying one..
I personally like that my Guzzi is made in Italy. Not assembled in Italy, but made there. I used to be a massive Triumph fan about 8 years ago but now every 2nd “classic” bike is a Triumph. I’m all about the Guzzi for the past 7 years.
More vids like this please Bennetts. Real useful stuff about bikes that are relavent from knowledgeable chaps. Thanks
Thanks Chris! Cheers, John
Thank you , fun stuff . Love Triumphs ,my brother had the Moto Guzzis ; which are great bikes as well .
Great to see the love for these bikes, especially the Triumph. I have a few larger bikes and a big scoot but really must take a few test rides. Really fancy something that goes like the Speed Twin with a more classic look tbh. Also have a regular pillion which is another consideration...
*_The 2021 & later Guzzi V7 is a totally different bike now & has some huge improvements..._*
-A superior choice among other retro standards if you want to be able to snap on a windscreen & bags for LST duty due to its *5.5 Gal / 21 Litre* range, excellent seat & rider position, 6 speed gearbox & final drive. Cruises at 90mph / 145 kph w/o stressing.
- 4 pot Brembo 320mm up front. Others may only be a 2 pot.
- Forks are BRACED midway - not mentioned the others aren't + new rake & trail make for very good low speed handling while maintaining excellent stability on the highway.
-Massive beam from the LED headlamp equipped Stone models.
-The new V7 weighs 436 lbs or 198 KG dry - keep in mind wet weight will include all the fuel it can carry. Also, aftermarket exhaust drops the weigh 20 lbs if you're so inclined.
- Fueling on US models 2022 & later is spot on, others have a map update for the asking on this new 853cc engine.
- Please know the factory presets the gear shift indicator for the BREAK-IN period RPM - reviewers fail to ignore this or reset it to the actual redline. Easy to do via the menu.
-If you don't explore the envelope of the V7 like 95% of all reviewers you'll miss the shear fun factor from time spent on a bendy road in the upper rpm range. Bonus, it's a forgiving bike.
Nice video, loved the detailed comparison. All three bikes are good looking and fun bikes.
What an amazing review.
Loved the 360 footage, the pan tracking the bikes from the roadside were awesome shots. So too was the shot looking back from the handlebar/headlight with two bikes in frame leaning into a corner. Another winner was the shot where the camera panned while on the bike to follow the passing bike.
Thanks again for a great vid. The edit must have taken ages! Much appreciated.
Thanks! I prepared the 360 footage, but didn't do the edit of this one - that's thanks to Dom Read-Jones. Cheers, John
Bennetts Bike Nice one John and Dom!
Great problem solving for the animation of the graphic that labelled the gear. It felt dynamic (looked like a quality suspension component working a mountain road!) and was still super legible..
You guys turn out amazing content on a very British (read shoe string) budget. Would love to see you guys given a little more time like some of your competitors. Just a few extra hours for shooting, animation creation and editing - maybe even the time to meet in an interior location (I could not imagine anyone else having to shoot in the rain - so United Kingdom of you guys.)
Don’t forget to include where you ride. Google Earth Studio can make Relive style maps that are simply breath taking. Most of us are
thinking about the next ride, when we are not thinking about the next bike.
A journeys or quest with time for reflection is always a compelling narrative.
Thanks again for the amazing video.
@@AC-id6rf Thanks! Some great stuff to think about there! John
Very joyful shoot .. I have the 2017 version of the 900 as a Street Scrambler and love it for our New England farm dirt roads and bumpy back lanes .. AT almost 70 I am tired getting under the bike to work on the chain ... I like the range and shaft drive on the V7 but still feel the reliability of the triumph makes the difference on its day to day use .. My range is only 160 miles but it does keep the weight down .So road range on the tank ( Guzzi wins on range ) and oil change intervals would be two comparisons I would have added .. I think the Enfield is a simple bike but needs the most tinkering and so looses on ride convenience ... The Street Twin in the form you were testing has the added hastle of needing to take the silencer off to play with the chain tensioner .. Very glad to have the SS for that reason .. Thanks for the great clip !!
Excelent video despite the jackets positioning haha. I'm feel like hanging out with you guys, thanks for that. Here in Brazil we don't have Guzzi, so it would be between RE and Triumph. I'm really thinking on go with Street Twin, specially looking into used ones. I can find a 3 or 2 years old unit, with extremely low kilometers, at the same range price of a new Interceptor. For what the bike deliveries, I think it worth.
Jackets bothered me as well. And side view is always better than front view.
Saw a video on doing a valve check on the V7. So easy, you don't even have to remove the tank.
I'm not even interested in modern retro bikes, but I do love the "top trumps" comparison style you've adopted, followed with riding experience and subjective opinions. Works really well. Although from memory the Munch Mammut was the card to have in my early '80s Top Trumps motorcycles deck, so it definitely didn't influence my taste/interest in bikes.
Great video, I would love to see the same format for middleweight naked's like duke 890r vs 765RS vs F900R or similar
I just purchased a V7lll Special a couple of weeks ago. It is going to be my local run around bike as I already have a Guzzi big block for longer highway rides. It is a wonderful bike and I am quite pleased with it. I bought it without a test ride as I already kind of knew what I was getting and I wasn't disappointed. My one comment concerns what comes up in every review I have read or seen here on Utube and that is the supposed torque reaction. Yes, there is a little but hardly noticeable. Having ridden BMW Airheads for more than 3 decades Guzzi torque reaction is minimal compared to earlier longitudinally mounted engine bikes. It is really a non- issue and I hope no one rules out a Guzzi before trying one on this almost non-existant "feature".
Very well done! Entertaining and informative. Still can't decide!
Thanks! It's a good puzzle to have though!
Really good guys. Very thorough comparisons. Cheers.
Thanks! John
I wanted to do that!!! great video.
Excellent video. Nice guys. More please.
I was seriously looking at the triumph....but the Guzzi has now got my eye. Love the shaft drive on this style/size of bike. My vulcan has shaft drive and I love it.
Also having the engine longitudinally makes valve adjustments a breeze. Great little bike for around town, back roads, mountain passes, and the occasional interstate jaunt.
Thanks for this great review- exactly what I’m considering now.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers, John
Now that is one good bike talk that you guys did. Telling all the options clearly and cleanly with no jargons and most importantly by being civil.!! Awesome.!!
Its suprising that the re looks the best for me
On the vibration issue W800 is a 360 degree crank phasing which has more intrinsic vibration but gives the traditional sound and power delivery of a parallel twin. RE and Triumph have 270 degree phasing which is smoother but sounds same as 90 degree V twin. Personally I prefer the 360 degree sound and feel but it does have more vibes.
Great, interesting and well put together vid, 50 mins went really quick
Thanks Steve! John
Great reviews...........you three are entertainment yourselves. Don't change anything! Thanks
Thanks very much! John
These are the best and most thorough motorcycle comparisons out there, full stop. During the exhaust comparison though, it dawned on me, that we may be looking at it backwards. Changing the exhaust is the most economical character change one can make, especially in regards to loudness. But, if one prefers a quieter bike, it's very difficult to source quieter than factory pipes. So maybe a very quiet bike, such as the Royal Enfield(which there are already a mess of louder aftermarket pipes available for), is the winner in the exhaust category?
Great bikes! But i am in love with my RE Interceptor Spectre !! THX fot the review!
Brilliant I'm so glad I found this vid these are the 3 I am currently looking at. Brilliant thanks for the info
Glad to have helped! Let us know which you choose...
I find an appeal of the push rods and shaft of the Italian job, despite having it drummed into me to only let Italy feed and clothe me. Good review, reference to the earlier W800 review got me wondering about where the Honda CB1100 would sit.
I own a Royal Enfield 650 and a Honda CB1100. I love them both though they are very different. The CB1100 is more luxurious for 2 up riding and it’s heavier and has much more horse power. I use the Enfield all the time especially for local riding. The CB1100 gets used for longer distance touring.
quality riding and review gents. I'm about to buy a Street Twin 900 and I'm pretty stoked. It'll be my first owned bike.
Thanks very much! Good choice, and enjoy... cheers, John
By coincidence I had a Street Twin for the day as a loan bike from Triumph last week. Very easy going bike - lovely to ride, and beautifully made. The feel of the gear change is miles ahead of my Trident and it really makes a lovely sound.
Downsides were that the retro speedo-only dial took some getting used to and it misses having a 6th gear for motorways, but around town and country roads it’s delightful. Don’t leave it parked in the city though - no locking petrol cap means no petrol to come back to.
It does have a locking cap.
Been thinking on a new bike and rode the re and v7. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I was really disappointed in the re. Foot placement and seat were not comfortable for me and the re felt very slow and heavy. I really thought that would be the way I was going but the test ride dashed my hopes. The V7 though I loved. To me it was a smooth comfortable ride with power to spare on the Guzzi compared to buzzing around on a washing machine on the re.
The fact that we all love different things in bikes is part of what makes them great for me. A review can only ever hope to give some pointers of what we think you should be aware of when test riding one. It's why I don't think group test 'winners' make any sense. Cheers, and enjoy the Guzzi, John
The 650 for me, just needs pipes, DNA air filter and maybe one of the big bore kits. 750 or 865. Lots of aftermarket options available for such a basic bike. Great review! Thank you. 👍😎
And you'll end up with a£9000 bike mite as well but the Triumph
@@degiorgiosaviour881 I understand that. However it’s much more to do with the experience... to be honest I wouldn’t own any of them. But if I had to choose it would be the 650 as it has more “potential”.
I agree but then you are up with the price of the Triumph
@@lipsee100 I’ve actually costed it. Even getting it all done professionally it is still cheaper.
I just done 455 miles on the guzzi v7iii today in France .. great fun
I went for the Guzzi and find it entertains enough without encouraging the hooligan side too much. Plus The chain maintenance aspect put me off all the others. A younger hipster type would probably prefer the Triumph I guess.
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 500. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
Thanks for that great video. It's good to see a mix of specs and feelings as it's not all about figures.
I got the Triumph and love it. Contrary to what you said, I love to ride it relaxed at low pace. Its high tork/low rev and lovely engine sound appeal to that relax type of riding (although it can easily accommodate faster ride).
On the less positive side, I find the suspensions too basic and unconfortable. I have switched to a pair of Shock Factory (fully adjustable) and it's a big improvement.
Great review guys but would have liked your thoughts on pillions for these bikes
Loved the video guys. Just a note though...not a criticism by any means. Considering its a 50 minute video....some of us are multitasking and just listening while doing something else. Thats where naming the bike everytime would have helped, instead of using "this one...that one"...where we miss out on which one is actually being referred to.
Again..loved the indepth discussion. 👍🏻
Great fun, thank you, and all great bikes by the looks of things. I do think we need to worry about where (and other what conditions) things, including bikes, are made, though.
From the point of view of the conditions people work in, I totally agree there - sorry, I just meant from the point of view of not assuming quality is poor due to location. Cheers, John
I truly love my Guzzi (v7 iii stone my19), as much as you can Love a machine. It’s beautiful and you feel the authenticity in every combustion...really.
I spend a lot of time looking for V7 Guzzis in Autotrader....
Me too. And eBay!
I had a Guzzi for 21 years until it was stolen, and I loved every mile I rode on it.
I throughly enjoyed this video just one thing, witch bike gives off the most heat?
Great fun to watch. Like the three of you, I'm all over the place too. I have a feeling that I'll end up with the Triumph. In the previous 40+ years, I've ridden HDs mostly, but I still have fond memories of my first bike, a '79 Yamaha xs400 that I bought new. Beautiful black and chrome. I'll never forget the deep shine of its beautiful tank. Also had a Honda Shadow as just a kick around bike for fun.
I'm completely done with Harleys. The thing I loved so much, I'm now dead sick of, the Harley wannabe 'hard core biker' thing that rarely lived up to anything.
I'd have the Guzzi, because it's a Moto Guzzi. Then again, the Triumph one is a Triumph, and that's also a brilliant argument, not to mention, the RN was made by Royal Enfield...
Just get them all! John
I can’t speak for the Triumph and the Enfield as I haven’t tried them. I love my Guzzi. The word character gets thrown around a lot regarding the Guzzi’s. You have to ride one for a while to understand it. Also very reliable. I take issue w the comment that the bike pulls to the right when u give it gas while at speed. Never noticed it in 20k plus miles of riding Guzzi’s. They do it when parked.
I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and we don’t have a Triumph dealership but we do have a Royal Enfield and a Moto Guzzi dealership here! How’s that? I kinda get the RE because they are making a huge push into the US market, but MG, a smallish Italian manufacturer? I gotta say though, I absolutely love that V7! Beautiful, beautiful, motorcycle!
As far as where the bikes are made, Thailand has a rich motorcycle culture and I would be honored to own a motorcycle made by the Thai people! The Guzzi however, is stealing my heart with their latest adaptation of the V7. I just have to test ride one…..soon!
Great video, Guys!
Great review!
Thanks! John
Amazing review guys..Thanks a lot. But... nobody commented on how these 3 bikes ride with a pillion and how is the pillion's comfort on them (both commuting and touring). Shame, because they do look like bikes to get on a twin-ride.
Sadly we didn't have a chance to do it for all of them, but you might like this playlist. Cheers, John th-cam.com/play/PLEmXSigXaptxbnx9Q-1RV3u3haG2wrXIz.html
I have owned Triumphs and Guzzis. I owned Triumph first however. Having switched to Guzzi, I could never go back. Guzzi engines are soulful and full of character. They are like nothing else. If the V7III had its engine pumped to be equal CC to the Triumph and the extra price for the nice to haves, Guzzi would have walked this review. Also I do care about where bikes are made and Guzzi is the most authentic by any measure.
I'd like to see a 'test' between the Bonnie and the new V85.
I was disappointed to see my Triumph street twin made in Thailand sticker.😭
I agree I won't be parted from my gloss black V7lll special, so much character and a brilliant ride.
@@larrynorsworthy8582 They have to do an apple:
DESIGNED BY APPLE IN CALIFORNIA
made in china
Manufacturers are coming out with every excuse possible as to why their bikes are being made in foreign countries. The Internet is awash with arguments over it. However these arguments will not go away. Bikes are mostly bought out of passion and it does matter where they're manufactured. Nobody cares if their Nissan Leaf is made in Sunderland, rather than Japan. It's just a tool to do a job. However motorbikes are different and need to keep their heritage intact...in my opinion anyway.
Great comparo thanks. I did test ride a Royal Enfield recently and I found it a quite twitchy, I did what I do on all test rides and gave the bars a shove on one side (on a clear straight road) to see how quick it comes back in line, which is not as ascary as it sounds on most bikes, but this was real scary as it took an age to true up and weaved a lot before settling down. Did you find that at all on your ride? I was surprised considering the frame is designed by Harris.
Love the subtle snow fall in British summer...?! Great video guys!
Thanks! That was actually just rain, though watching it back I did wonder! I also wondered why I left the jackets on the bikes, but that's the problem with rushing to set a camera up to film yourselves before it rains! Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks John, I have my eyes on these bikes though I don't exactly know why - got a Versys 1000 as my daily driver but not even able to use that thanks to the pandemic and I still lust for a retro bike as a second, for the Sunday blasts...
@@Certago You can never have too many bikes! Cheers, John
The appeal of the Guzzi is it's the only classically European style machine actually made in Europe. Somehow the Italians have managed to hold onto its domestic motorcycle manufacturing capability. Sure the Guzzi is going to cost more. I hate that seam on the underside of the Triumph and RE tanks - why is that necessary?
Enjoyed your review. Have to say, I can't find a 650 vs 650 review, usually being against a larger displacement bike. If you know someone with an original, late '60's Triumph or BSA 650, please pair one or both of those against the RA 650. That would be quite interesting!
Great informative video. I looked at all three Plus the Kawasaki W800. In the end I sprung for the Royal Enfield and with the money saved purchased a number of performance and visual accessories from Hitchcock's that improved the stock setup both in performance and looks. I'm convinced I made the best possible choice for me. On the other hand my wife is wanting to purchase the Triumph. All amazing bikes, just a matter of personal preference.
I've had 3 Triumphs and love them but am ready for something different. I am currently shopping a used 2018 Guzzi V7 III Stone vs a 2020 Royal Enfield INT650 Baker Express for around the same price. While i realize the Guzzi is a more "high end" machine (and i really like the big gas tank) the lack of tachometer really bugs me. I also really like the center-stand and ease of maintenance for the Enfield, and slightly higher seat height (I'm 6'4). Torn at this point...going to have to just sit on them both and see what feels right. Great video, thanks for your thoughts!
Thanks! You've got some great choices to make! Cheers, John
My 3 favorite guys on Bennets in once place 👍👍😀
Absolutely magnificent video comparison.
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
Doing the video while it raining .. badass
But rushing to set up is how I missed the jackets looking so awkward! John
I reckon Simons beard looks the most retro
Really like the styling of the v7 in that colour
Be interested to see how the 2021 850 V7 shapes up against the Enfield and Street Twin...
I own a V7 stone II right now,it's the ideal commuter for me with it's 21L tank,shaft drive,6 gears... but still I'm looking to buy a Triumph again.I fell in love with Triumph,wanted to give another brand a chance and absolutely love my Guzzi but next year I'm going back to Triumph.Always thinking about you're first real love right? 😅
Can you afford to keep both?! Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial can you come and convince my wife why every man should have at least 2 bikes? 😅 very good,thorough review btw and it is very nice of you to respond.Really appreciate that!
@@punkrockdidi I'm lucky - my wife doesn't mind how many I have. Though she did draw the line when I suggested having one in the house. Maybe try with how they have different purposes, and also, if one broke down, you'd have a back-up, so you won't need to bother her about using the car.