Cool video, sir ! I’ve just started to dive into some modern Russian militaria over the past two years…. So, most of the detailed information is new to me. Thank you
Thanks, one of the reasons I started posting some of my Russian stuff is because I wanted it to be easy for normal new people to get information. Most groups that are into this stuff like to gate keep (ish) information and don’t make it easy for new guys to learn. Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of groups that are rockstars and help new guys out but I think most don’t make it easy enough for newcomers to get info. Thank you so much for commenting!
@@froginthewaves8450 That whole “gatekeeping” in Militaria collecting has been somewhat of a recent phenomenon that I’ve noticed, especially on TH-cam or Facebook and Reddit groups. I’ve been reenacting / collecting WW2 German since 1997 when I started at age 16…..there was an occasional asshole that didn’t take me seriously or treated me like I was stupid, it honestly wasn’t very often, but often enough to embolden me even more to never treat anyone else like that. Now that I’m in the position to give advice and information to rookies, I’m extremely accommodating because I think it’s really cool to find other people that are interested in the same, semi obscure subject. I’ll sometimes get very easily answered questions, not requiring but a few seconds on Google, but I won’t snap back with “ buy a book” or “google it” , because that’s just being a dick. I get gatekeeping to an extent but realistically chasing people away because they overestimate their importance and resent anyone that didn’t find the answers the same way they did….well that’s just not me. Ok … I’m done ranting.
Your suit was definitely made in 2016, while Endurance Room's suit was made in 2018. Also, a fun fact. BTK group is THE major anything fabric-related manufacturer for the Russian military, starting from bedsheets and towels, up to uniforms, socks and underwear. Recently bought the 2021 Blue ATACS uniform from their shop. All in all, great vid. Only one question tho: did you shave your head to be conscripted or something?
You did a good job here. Very nice review of the Masking Suit. BTW! What other basic items do you have from the "Ratnik" gear set? Except for the camouflage suit and replica helmet.
@soldiers_backpack I was originally going to do a what we call it here in the United States “green bean kit” which is just a standard ratnik loadout but instead decided to invest that money into buying into what we call “old gen” Russian gear (1979-2010) because it will become very hard to get soon. And because I like the old stuff a little bit more than the new stuff. Not really a big fan of a lot of the gear coming out of the current era, doesn’t have much character as the old gen stuff. (I especially love Chechen war mvd kit) I’m also interested into getting into KSOR kit here soon because I think it’s rad. Anyways im still probably going to still do a green bean kit at some point lol. When I do I will not buy repro, I would probably do a field exercise machine gunner kit with no armor and only 6sh117 or just do a standard rifleman loadout. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!!!!
@@froginthewaves8450 Not bad! If I'll have time, I'll try to ask my friends to buy you something... At least the first generation of 6Sh chest rigs. They are called 6Sh112 and are covered with Flora camouflage. The Interior Ministry forces also had their own version of the 6SH112 chest rig, which was called a "Tank" or something like that.
The main difference is that the 6sh122 is based of the bars sumrak m1. It copies the loop design (6 loops horizontal for vegatation.) but cancels the chest pockets and over cloth on the hand. BARS uses string at the waist for their sumraks, (and middle torso) and have pass through side pockets. SSO sumraks use a lace up front instead of canadian button up. SSO sumraks use the same 6 horizontal vegation loop design. I believe only old gen SSO sumraks had chest pockets or maybe Im thinking of partizan suits. SSO sumraks also had the over cloth on the hand. They use elastic for the waist. The most common sumraks are reversible. pass through side pockets ? Partizan suits use a canadian button up front, use 3 vertical vegatation loops intead of 6 horizontal loops. The 3 loops have two similar sized loops on the ends with one smaller loop in the middle. Partizan suits use string at the waist ( and middle torso, new gen doesnt) . The most common partizan suits are reversible. pass through side pockets? I think old gen partizan suits had both chest and lower pockets while new gen only has chest pockets. All and all the 6sh122 is a cross between a new gen partizan suit with a bars sumrak. Using the 6 horizontal loops, string at the waist and middle torso, canadian button up front, reversible, two pockets at the waist, newer gen also has pockets on the shoulders, pass through side pockets, and thats about it. Overall I think the 6sh122 is more akin to a bars sumrak m1 or m2 and is less like a SSO partizan suit or Sumrak when you get technical. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!
@@uncompliant FACEBOOK TRADE GROUPS ARE YOUR BEST BET NIKOLAI SHAPKIN IS THE PLUG ON B/S/T NA and Red Market. eBay sometimes has them for sub 200. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!
@FuturisticCamouflageTimes2025 Mexican National Guard urban camo, I think you would probably be into a lot of Mexican camos they make a bunch of interesting stuff.
I love the way digital camo looks
Cool video, sir ! I’ve just started to dive into some modern Russian militaria over the past two years…. So, most of the detailed information is new to me. Thank you
Thanks, one of the reasons I started posting some of my Russian stuff is because I wanted it to be easy for normal new people to get information. Most groups that are into this stuff like to gate keep (ish) information and don’t make it easy for new guys to learn.
Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of groups that are rockstars and help new guys out but I think most don’t make it easy enough for newcomers to get info.
Thank you so much for commenting!
@@froginthewaves8450 That whole “gatekeeping” in Militaria collecting has been somewhat of a recent phenomenon that I’ve noticed, especially on TH-cam or Facebook and Reddit groups. I’ve been reenacting / collecting WW2 German since 1997 when I started at age 16…..there was an occasional asshole that didn’t take me seriously or treated me like I was stupid, it honestly wasn’t very often, but often enough to embolden me even more to never treat anyone else like that. Now that I’m in the position to give advice and information to rookies, I’m extremely accommodating because I think it’s really cool to find other people that are interested in the same, semi obscure subject. I’ll sometimes get very easily answered questions, not requiring but a few seconds on Google, but I won’t snap back with “ buy a book” or “google it” , because that’s just being a dick.
I get gatekeeping to an extent but realistically chasing people away because they overestimate their importance and resent anyone that didn’t find the answers the same way they did….well that’s just not me.
Ok … I’m done ranting.
Your suit was definitely made in 2016, while Endurance Room's suit was made in 2018.
Also, a fun fact. BTK group is THE major anything fabric-related manufacturer for the Russian military, starting from bedsheets and towels, up to uniforms, socks and underwear. Recently bought the 2021 Blue ATACS uniform from their shop.
All in all, great vid.
Only one question tho: did you shave your head to be conscripted or something?
I prefer my head buzzed, I only grow my hair out to donate it for wigs for people less fortunate.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!
@@froginthewaves8450 I understand the motive now. That's a noble cause.
@FuturisticCamouflageTimes2025 yup. At the very least I know the language and size/info shenanigans.
@@tnd1488interesting nick name
You did a good job here. Very nice review of the Masking Suit.
BTW! What other basic items do you have from the "Ratnik" gear set? Except for the camouflage suit and replica helmet.
I also have the vkbo balaclava and hat.
Thank you so much for commenting!
@@froginthewaves8450 That's great!
Do you want to get more elements? Like 6B45 bodyarmor and 6Sh117 chest rig?
At least copies of it.
@soldiers_backpack I was originally going to do a what we call it here in the United States “green bean kit” which is just a standard ratnik loadout but instead decided to invest that money into buying into what we call “old gen” Russian gear (1979-2010) because it will become very hard to get soon. And because I like the old stuff a little bit more than the new stuff. Not really a big fan of a lot of the gear coming out of the current era, doesn’t have much character as the old gen stuff. (I especially love Chechen war mvd kit)
I’m also interested into getting into KSOR kit here soon because I think it’s rad.
Anyways im still probably going to still do a green bean kit at some point lol.
When I do I will not buy repro, I would probably do a field exercise machine gunner kit with no armor and only 6sh117 or just do a standard rifleman loadout.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!!!!
@@froginthewaves8450 Not bad! If I'll have time, I'll try to ask my friends to buy you something... At least the first generation of 6Sh chest rigs. They are called 6Sh112 and are covered with Flora camouflage.
The Interior Ministry forces also had their own version of the 6SH112 chest rig, which was called a "Tank" or something like that.
1:09 - What makes you say that 54-56 is XXL? The chart shows that 54-56 is Medium-Large
i wanna see a comparison with other partizan cut suits.
The main difference is that the 6sh122 is based of the bars sumrak m1. It copies the loop design (6 loops horizontal for vegatation.) but cancels the chest pockets and over cloth on the hand. BARS uses string at the waist for their sumraks,
(and middle torso) and have pass through side pockets.
SSO sumraks use a lace up front instead of canadian button up. SSO sumraks use the same 6 horizontal vegation loop design. I believe only old gen SSO sumraks had chest pockets or maybe Im thinking of partizan suits. SSO sumraks also had the over cloth on the hand. They use elastic for the waist. The most common sumraks are reversible. pass through side pockets ?
Partizan suits use a canadian button up front, use 3 vertical vegatation loops intead of 6 horizontal loops. The 3 loops have two similar sized loops on the ends with one smaller loop in the middle. Partizan suits use string at the waist ( and middle torso, new gen doesnt) . The most common partizan suits are reversible. pass through side pockets?
I think old gen partizan suits had both chest and lower pockets while new gen only has chest pockets.
All and all the 6sh122 is a cross between a new gen partizan suit with a bars sumrak. Using the 6 horizontal loops, string at the waist and middle torso, canadian button up front, reversible, two pockets at the waist, newer gen also has pockets on the shoulders, pass through side pockets, and thats about it.
Overall I think the 6sh122 is more akin to a bars sumrak m1 or m2 and is less like a SSO partizan suit or Sumrak when you get technical.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!
Damn I'm still looking for one 😂
@@uncompliant FACEBOOK TRADE GROUPS ARE YOUR BEST BET
NIKOLAI SHAPKIN IS THE PLUG ON B/S/T NA and Red Market. eBay sometimes has them for sub 200.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!
@FuturisticCamouflageTimes2025 Mexican National Guard urban camo, I think you would probably be into a lot of Mexican camos they make a bunch of interesting stuff.
I have some in pencott greenzone
Nice!
Thank you so much for commenting!
damn bro snow in july
@@Deathloec lmao
Dude, you have ratnik gloves? Grey not, black
@@GLM-c6s no
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