I have an Ayaneo 2 but i think i might upgrade to a Win Max 2 with 7840u next, it will be heavier but also faster thanks to 7500mhz ram, better battery with the 67wh, and it can be a small powerful laptop when needed
Yeah the MAX series have always been a dark horse in the handheld scene but it has a lot of advantages over the others as you mentioned. The only downside is as a handheld it's not as comfortable as say the AYA NEO 2S, but you can sit it on a table and easily play with a controller etc.
@@DroiX_Store If I used a controller with the WM 2, then it is not a handheld anymore. Is holding it not comfortable for let's say 1.5 hours? It is really powerful and I think you can ramp it up to 40w tdp ???
hello ! do you sell spare parts for ayaneo 2 ? i need a screwset and a backside (black) for ayaneo 2 . i bought mine used and the preowner didn´t manage to get into it without damage the outer case . he exchanged the nvme from 1tb to 2 tb . it had chimera os on it . with that it run just poorly . i reinstalled factory os and drivers and it now performs like it should :)
Maybe someone here can help me, I’m deciding between the win max 2 and laptop. I could get a laptop with at 4050 for $300 more. But I do like that the gpd has an oculink port so I could get a better graphics card in the future. Any ideas to help me decide??
well the "biggest" difference is what do you want to use these Gaming pcs for. The GPD Win Max 2 is a handheld gaming PC (which is a bit of a stretch as it is more a compact umc) with necessary controllers. The laptop is more stationary and you cannot hold and play it like a handheld gaming PC. Me personally, I've moved to handheld gaming PCs for PC gaming because of the mobility/portability, but am still on the lookout for that handheld gaming PC that will be powerful enough to be my desktop pc replacement.
@@AdmiralBison appreciate the response, I’ll probably get the gpd win max 2 and plan to use a egpu with it as an upgrade when the desktop 40 series cards get a bit cheaper
Yeah providing the power bank has enough capacity and power output it is definitely possible.I've added it to the list for something we might look into further in a future video. Thanks.
Great review. But could you include the 1% lows when crosscomparing the 2s to the rog ally? Im currious how the lpddr5x 7500 vs lpddr5 6500 affects the performance.
Once all these launch issues have been fixed on the handhelds we will be making a new video with new benchmark results. We will include as much info as we can. Thanks.
@DroiX_Store that makes sense. The driver and bios of these handhelds definitely need a bit of time to mature. Especially for the rog ally. Fingers crossed they are eventually able to address the performance issues at low tdp. And that the sd card issue is not a severe hardware issue that causes asus to abandon the product early.
@@scow01 There is a BIOS update for the Ally out today which I believe fixes the SD card issue and adjusts the fan speeds. I have not had a chance to install it ytet, but will try it tomorrow to see if there's any performance increase.
I am fairly sure the graphics drivers will improve the performance. All three devices were underperforming in some benchmarks. We did see an increase on the Ally after the hotfix and I am fairly sure the AYANEO 2S and MAX 2 2023 will also see some improvements once the drivers get a proper update.
@@DroiX_StoreRDNA 3 is still new we’ve seen this song and dance from AMD before. People need to realize nvidia specializes in gpus and devotes massive teams to making them work day 1. Amd graphics division is way smaller and they must work just as hard after launch to catch up. Hence the “age like fine wine” argument. Look at the 6900XT it got significantly better over the course of its lifespan eventually rivaling and even outperforming it’s nvidia counterpart. And best part is there haven’t been any 780m igpu driver updates so we know the performance increase is coming. Amd is all about patience…unfortunately.
We will definitely see improvements. It is why we made it clear in the benchmarks that these are based on early drivers etc. We will be revisiting the benchmarks in a future video for all the 7840U models as soon as we see some performance increases.
You can use the included USB-C to A adaptors. But we recommend a hub for the best connectivity as it provides more USB ports as well as other features such as output to a larger external display etc. Our DroiX NH8 hub at droix.net/product/droix-nh8-nvme-usb-hub/ is perfect for this.
@@DroiX_Store is this the best handheld gaming ? i really want to have one to play world of warship but i cant find any benchmark of that game or dota 2
@@eczywizzy603 This model is quite old now. You may want to consider one of the newer handhelds like the GPD Win 4 th-cam.com/video/_wa_CEXbS6Y/w-d-xo.html or GPD WIN Mini th-cam.com/video/l7VrnGGMYkI/w-d-xo.html We will also have a review for the ONEXPLAYER X1 Mini handheld soon.
could you please comment on the concern of paying 1500 for something that is made on the other side of the world by a company that is not good at customer service and a company that continues to alienate their customers by releasing better stuff every five minutes please comment
If you purchase from us at DroiX you get a proper warranty and support. We are present on live chat, phone, social media etc for customer service. If there is an issue then you return it to us and not China and we repair/replace as needed. AYA are tiring to improve their own customer service, they are trying their best to get this sorted. Everyone is aware that AYA do release a lot of new models, it is up to the customer if they buy it or not. AYA do announce new models well in advance such as their flip model. It is not launched yet but has been known for some months already.
Thanks for this! I’ve been looking at the ROG Ally but just (luckily) saw your video…. When will the comparison video be out between the Steamdeck, ROG ally and the Aya Neo 2S?
No date just yet.We are waiting on the Aokzoe A1 pro and possibly the new Win 4 to arrive before making it .we will update on social media when we have them,hopefully sooner rather than later.
Unless you are buying from Droix do not buy an AYANEO nor GPD device. The Ally may lag slightly in performance but you gain way more in terms of serviceability and support.
@@Ybm9000 true but with ultra performance you lose those higher graphical details in most games. Cyberpunk 2077 looks downright disgusting past balanced fsr. Characters leave artifacts with every movement and environment in the distance/background looks like a pixelated mess. Best to play with fsr balanced and low on hogwarts. The higher settings don’t do much look at the comparisons on TH-cam some say low looks better even haha
I have an Ayaneo 2 but i think i might upgrade to a Win Max 2 with 7840u next, it will be heavier but also faster thanks to 7500mhz ram, better battery with the 67wh, and it can be a small powerful laptop when needed
Yeah the MAX series have always been a dark horse in the handheld scene but it has a lot of advantages over the others as you mentioned. The only downside is as a handheld it's not as comfortable as say the AYA NEO 2S, but you can sit it on a table and easily play with a controller etc.
@@DroiX_Store If I used a controller with the WM 2, then it is not a handheld anymore. Is holding it not comfortable for let's say 1.5 hours?
It is really powerful and I think you can ramp it up to 40w tdp ???
@@Games-kk5bmif you are resting on say your lap or table like in the video then you can play it just fine for that long
holding a 10" notebook playing game in public looks silly for all ages.
going to preorder once i get paid from work iv had the win3 for ages and its lagging behind so this is a very decent upgrade from the looks of it
hello ! do you sell spare parts for ayaneo 2 ? i need a screwset and a backside (black) for ayaneo 2 . i bought mine used and the preowner didn´t manage to get into it without damage the outer case . he exchanged the nvme from 1tb to 2 tb . it had chimera os on it . with that it run just poorly . i reinstalled factory os and drivers and it now performs like it should :)
Unfortunately we do not sell any spare parts for the AYA NEO 2. Have you tried contacting AYANEO to ask if they sell them?
Maybe someone here can help me, I’m deciding between the win max 2 and laptop. I could get a laptop with at 4050 for $300 more. But I do like that the gpd has an oculink port so I could get a better graphics card in the future. Any ideas to help me decide??
well the "biggest" difference is what do you want to use these Gaming pcs for.
The GPD Win Max 2 is a handheld gaming PC (which is a bit of a stretch as it is more a compact umc) with necessary controllers.
The laptop is more stationary and you cannot hold and play it like a handheld gaming PC.
Me personally, I've moved to handheld gaming PCs for PC gaming because of the mobility/portability, but am still on the lookout for that handheld gaming PC that will be powerful enough to be my desktop pc replacement.
@@AdmiralBison appreciate the response, I’ll probably get the gpd win max 2 and plan to use a egpu with it as an upgrade when the desktop 40 series cards get a bit cheaper
can you charge any of these devices with a power bank on the go to extend playing? particularly the Win Max 2 with its larger battery?
Yeah providing the power bank has enough capacity and power output it is definitely possible.I've added it to the list for something we might look into further in a future video. Thanks.
Great review. But could you include the 1% lows when crosscomparing the 2s to the rog ally? Im currious how the lpddr5x 7500 vs lpddr5 6500 affects the performance.
Once all these launch issues have been fixed on the handhelds we will be making a new video with new benchmark results. We will include as much info as we can. Thanks.
@DroiX_Store that makes sense. The driver and bios of these handhelds definitely need a bit of time to mature. Especially for the rog ally. Fingers crossed they are eventually able to address the performance issues at low tdp. And that the sd card issue is not a severe hardware issue that causes asus to abandon the product early.
@@scow01 There is a BIOS update for the Ally out today which I believe fixes the SD card issue and adjusts the fan speeds. I have not had a chance to install it ytet, but will try it tomorrow to see if there's any performance increase.
Been waiting on the 2S but the random benchmark results have me a little worried.
I am fairly sure the graphics drivers will improve the performance. All three devices were underperforming in some benchmarks. We did see an increase on the Ally after the hotfix and I am fairly sure the AYANEO 2S and MAX 2 2023 will also see some improvements once the drivers get a proper update.
@@DroiX_StoreRDNA 3 is still new we’ve seen this song and dance from AMD before. People need to realize nvidia specializes in gpus and devotes massive teams to making them work day 1. Amd graphics division is way smaller and they must work just as hard after launch to catch up. Hence the “age like fine wine” argument. Look at the 6900XT it got significantly better over the course of its lifespan eventually rivaling and even outperforming it’s nvidia counterpart. And best part is there haven’t been any 780m igpu driver updates so we know the performance increase is coming. Amd is all about patience…unfortunately.
We will definitely see improvements. It is why we made it clear in the benchmarks that these are based on early drivers etc. We will be revisiting the benchmarks in a future video for all the 7840U models as soon as we see some performance increases.
Any issue like too hot? Lcd hot?
The device and screen will get warm when in use, this happens for all handhelds. We mention the temperatures at 3:16 in the video.
Can use mouse and keyboard?
You can use the included USB-C to A adaptors. But we recommend a hub for the best connectivity as it provides more USB ports as well as other features such as output to a larger external display etc. Our DroiX NH8 hub at droix.net/product/droix-nh8-nvme-usb-hub/ is perfect for this.
@@DroiX_Store is this the best handheld gaming ? i really want to have one to play world of warship but i cant find any benchmark of that game or dota 2
@@eczywizzy603 This model is quite old now. You may want to consider one of the newer handhelds like the GPD Win 4 th-cam.com/video/_wa_CEXbS6Y/w-d-xo.html or GPD WIN Mini th-cam.com/video/l7VrnGGMYkI/w-d-xo.html We will also have a review for the ONEXPLAYER X1 Mini handheld soon.
Your intro was funny af
Thanks 😀
could you please comment on the concern of paying 1500 for something that is made on the other side of the world by a company that is not good at customer service and a company that continues to alienate their customers by releasing better stuff every five minutes please comment
If you purchase from us at DroiX you get a proper warranty and support. We are present on live chat, phone, social media etc for customer service. If there is an issue then you return it to us and not China and we repair/replace as needed.
AYA are tiring to improve their own customer service, they are trying their best to get this sorted.
Everyone is aware that AYA do release a lot of new models, it is up to the customer if they buy it or not. AYA do announce new models well in advance such as their flip model. It is not launched yet but has been known for some months already.
tiny Thor looks cool@@breaddough-vk8gf
If you dont get a AYANEO or GPD device from Droix, you are going to have a bad time if something goes wrong.
^ what they said!
Thanks for this!
I’ve been looking at the ROG Ally but just (luckily) saw your video….
When will the comparison video be out between the Steamdeck, ROG ally and the Aya Neo 2S?
No date just yet.We are waiting on the Aokzoe A1 pro and possibly the new Win 4 to arrive before making it .we will update on social media when we have them,hopefully sooner rather than later.
Unless you are buying from Droix do not buy an AYANEO nor GPD device. The Ally may lag slightly in performance but you gain way more in terms of serviceability and support.
How much
Prices are at UK - go.droix.co.uk/AZGoTJ & Worldwide - go.droix.co.uk/2OiGTq
For hogwarts legacy try 800p with a mix of medium and high graphics and fsr 2 ultra performance you will be 53-60fps all the time
😂😂😂
No one wants to run ultra performance and see massive amounts of artifacts, ghosting and pixelation lol.
@@mikehatten5738 and no one wants to play high res and low graphics and gets a crappy details too with 25-30fps 😂😂😂
@@mikehatten5738 at least im playing with a mix of medium to high graphics
@@Ybm9000 true but with ultra performance you lose those higher graphical details in most games. Cyberpunk 2077 looks downright disgusting past balanced fsr. Characters leave artifacts with every movement and environment in the distance/background looks like a pixelated mess. Best to play with fsr balanced and low on hogwarts. The higher settings don’t do much look at the comparisons on TH-cam some say low looks better even haha
@@mikehatten5738 not in hogwarts legacy you dont
Every game is different
ally is much more powerfull but bios 319 screwed it all up
We will do some new benchmarks once these launch issues are fixed. There's definitely improved performance from all of these devices.
the ally is not it can't handle returnal for example
where on earth did you see _this_ ??
The good thing about the ally is that they are constantly sending out updates.