Did Darth Vader Ever Learn More About Darth Plagueis from Palpatine? (Legends)

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  • @JanPeverell
    @JanPeverell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Plagueis the Wise remains one of the most fascinating Sith to have ever existed, and midi-chlorian manipulation one of the most intriguing force abilities.

    • @orochimaruginju6868
      @orochimaruginju6868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone gets it

    • @BigEvan96
      @BigEvan96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He died drunk in his sleep and failed to acheive life after death while numerous light side users acheived force ghost abilities with far less intense training than Plagius. Not to mention Plagius's master Tennebrous achieved the force ghost ability on a technicality.

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed I find it very fascinating how obsessed he was with immortality and creating a forceful beings, and his mastery of midichlorian manipulation. Plus tenebrous was also cool

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Palpy: “Did you ever hear the”
    Vader: “Yes, you’ve told me the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise 52 times now!”
    Palpy: “It’s a Sith legend.”
    Vader: “I killed a bunch of children and my wife for this?”

    • @FreedomAndPeaceOnly
      @FreedomAndPeaceOnly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Vader: *_" I need to give that old goat his pills again. "_*

    • @darthtroller
      @darthtroller 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO 😂😂😂

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      66 times!

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vader be like: I joined the dark side and betrayed all that I knew for this? I want my refund!

  • @sdrewe99
    @sdrewe99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I think that Vader would have discovered the truth about palps and plagius after watching the star wars movies.

    • @ancapride
      @ancapride 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think he has Spaceballs force powers...

    • @HighLiner15
      @HighLiner15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aaahhhhaaaa

    • @darthsidious8596
      @darthsidious8596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “Ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?”
      “Yes, I read the novel.”

    • @royronson3275
      @royronson3275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But they don’t show it in the movies. He’d have to read the lore novels

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he’d learn a bit from the opera part but to learn far more he’d have to read the novel

  • @RyanTheDark
    @RyanTheDark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Funny thing would be if Vader found his power and brought Padme back. Sidious would have flipped.

    • @cornbreadloverrr
      @cornbreadloverrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sidious: "You weren't supposed to do that."

    • @mannyman1012
      @mannyman1012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Vader went beyond that power of plaguies. He almost resurrected padme using the eon engine, but the planet mustafar did not have enough energy to bring her back. He also had the power to open a portal that bridges life and death, however he also failed in this attempt with the force itself preventing him from changing the past.

    • @princetonchia1285
      @princetonchia1285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mannyman1012 Still at it again, eh Armani weeb? Thought you'd quit fanboying about vader and using stupid disney canon. 🤦‍♂️ Get a life, smh.........😡🖕

    • @undead4500
      @undead4500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was close in vader immortal game if it wasn't for that meddling smuggler.

    • @mannyman1012
      @mannyman1012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@princetonchia1285 bro chill out. I'm just sharing some star wars lore. Loving star wars like all fans. I'm sorry I don't agree with you and your Vitiate gang that Sion is the most powerful being in star wars. It's still hard for me to understand that Sion can defeat sidious.

  • @MyCvll
    @MyCvll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is my favorite Star Wars page on TH-cam. It's very informative, descriptive, and Fun. And "If not for me"....
    Is my favorite part.

  • @vitorkennedy1862
    @vitorkennedy1862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Do an episode about Vergere and her views about the Force.

  • @maryuma7
    @maryuma7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This was interesting. Palpatine is selfish of course he wouldnt share full info on Plagueis & his knowledge.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm pretty sure the meeting in the afterlife/Chaos/netherworld/whatever was pretty awkward between them.

  • @avtic1
    @avtic1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think the backstory of Palpatine’s origins is so worth of a movie!

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not from Disney

    • @DARTHBLUNT713
      @DARTHBLUNT713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@akumaking1 exactly

    • @coolcatttttt8
      @coolcatttttt8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      From filoni and James luceno so yeah

    • @RaoulDuke789
      @RaoulDuke789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @CC8 Filoni doesn't seem to collaborate very well with others.

    • @RaoulDuke789
      @RaoulDuke789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joe Orzech Then I guess there’s no point in going through James Luceno’s Origin of Palpatine as a movie. He can just come up with his own origin of the character by taking a few things from Luceno. Although since he knows Star Wars and how it should be, I got to say, Star Wars is a big franchise for just one fella to concentrate on making so many stories to make a whole timeline. Be it comic books, novels, video games, TV series and movies, but he doesn’t need to collaborate.

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns6679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It would’ve been very interesting if The Wise and the Chosen One really met one another in person

    • @mysteryjunkie9808
      @mysteryjunkie9808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They came really close to each other at one point. Plagueis had a vision of Darth Vader when he saw him a young Anakin Skywalker

    • @brenster21
      @brenster21 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, if plaguies had been around during the prequels, the galaxy would have been much worse off. he could have easily flipped anakin, kept padme alive, and effortlessly ran his empire.

  • @David_Alvarez77
    @David_Alvarez77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a really good video! I recently read the Plagueis novel and I have to say that he is one of the most interesting characters in Star Wars. The fact that Palpatine would not share any of Plagueis' real teachings with Vader goes to show that Sidious really considered his master to have truly comprehended the depth of the dark side.

  • @neilmurphy966
    @neilmurphy966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought part of reason Palpatine told him about Plagueis was to fuel his desire to get to the holocron s in Jedi Archives...he could only reach them if he was a Master...which the Council didn't give him...so in a way even if Plagueis had been a fable it would've still stirred up Anakin's impatience and hostility to the Jedi and push him more to he dark side? Maybe keeping Plagueis novel in legend not canon means they're going to develop Plagueis along a parallel path..?

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Anakin’s fall to the dark side began when he disobeyed Windu’s order to remain in the Jedi Temple. Anakin seemed to [be] determined to “save” Palpatine from being killed. “I need him!!!”
    Furthermore, I believe Anakin knew that if he had not surrendered to Sidious after Windu was killed, Sidious would have been forced to kill Anakin because he knew Palpatine was secretly a Sith Lord.

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "So Lord Vader, I killed my master without having any clue about how he was developing the power of spontaneous generation, immortality, resurrection and possibly how to even increase his own Force sensitivity"
    "Didn't think that one through, did you master ?"

  • @jamajnasoares5702
    @jamajnasoares5702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Plagueis: Vader, I am your Anti-Father!
    Vader: ... what?

  • @DarrelsWonderland
    @DarrelsWonderland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s a Sith Legend!

    • @jay-1800
      @jay-1800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not one the Jedi would tell you!

  • @ginantsfan5
    @ginantsfan5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most awesome vid!!!!

  • @goodmind4940
    @goodmind4940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vader have seen force ghost in Dark Times comics, so how can he not know...

  • @TSPH1992
    @TSPH1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What the hell is an aluminium falcon?"

  • @DeividManuRos
    @DeividManuRos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love vader

  • @christophersandidge8257
    @christophersandidge8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For sith legends the. Great video. Thanks.

  • @DeividManuRos
    @DeividManuRos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    star wars forever

  • @ADR69
    @ADR69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Plagueis is going to be Disney's get out of jail free card. Once they've totally trashed this series, the Plagueis quadrilogy drops

    • @Vectivuss
      @Vectivuss ปีที่แล้ว

      This aged so well

  • @big_alsgaming
    @big_alsgaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is plagueis still palps master in cannon?

  • @mrj5045
    @mrj5045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my headcanon yeah he did

  • @mysteryjunkie9808
    @mysteryjunkie9808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plagueis manipulation of the mitcholorine is what lead to Anakin Skywalker being born

  • @ghostzombie6397
    @ghostzombie6397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda pathetic how Vader was held back the entire time he was a sith, and he didn't find a different master to learn from

  • @strawhat9023
    @strawhat9023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna say no. Paps seemed more about his gain than anything
    But that doesn't work. If Paps said he was Sith, Anakin would've said so sooner in the movie.

  • @smashingpots9928
    @smashingpots9928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pleigous was better as a myth. The new comics dont appreciate the value of such a change caused by a story that may or may not be real. Its a shame really.

  • @bobbydeuce6486
    @bobbydeuce6486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always find it strange that Anakin never really questions Palpatine’s identity. Palpatine not only knows about the Sith, but he won’t shut up about them and he even knows their lore focusing on one in particular. That would put my guard up. Anakin instead chooses to join Palpatine, after killing his previous apprentice. He believes Palpatine, a man affiliated with the cut throat power hungry cult that draws strength from the part of the force that requires you to do heinous things for strength.
    Anakin: this guy knows a lot about the sith, and for some reason Dooku looked really shocked when Palpatine ordered his execution. No worries though it’s not like Palpatine is an evil Sith Lord. If he is though there’s no evidence he would betray me or lie to me.

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left a like for *Sith Legends*

  • @dannyvestal299
    @dannyvestal299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed the content! Man that Darth Plagueis was one ugly som biatch!! Lol..thx..for Sith Legends!

  • @valetudo1569
    @valetudo1569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Palpatine got arrogant and wanted to keep all the power for himself.. just living forever by transferring his body into other insanely strong force users. Not actually taking an apprentice with the idea they would one day take over his place

  • @TheQuincyEdwards
    @TheQuincyEdwards 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear god man, thank you for saying this!!!!!! I’ve been saying this since episode 3 came out in 2005! He never says it’s HIS master. It’s assumed. Well, now it’s canon, but fuck Disney.
    Tragedies and legends don’t happen a generation ago. Those descriptions usually entail something much much older than oh yeah , I knew that guy.

  • @magnol1a_
    @magnol1a_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vader learned jack shit from Palpatine.

  • @ujimasahojo7144
    @ujimasahojo7144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise Prequel?

  • @BigEvan96
    @BigEvan96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Vader get busted by an imperial commander for looking up classified information? I think Vader definitely knew more then what we are lead to believe he knows. Think for a second about what Vader said to Luke. "Join me, so we can overthrow the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son". And bring order yada yada. Vader knew about the rule of 2 but hated it because as Sidious's apprentice he knew damn well Sidious was a liar. Sidious perpetuated war out of some sick twisted mental fetish he had for suffering on a galactic scale. Had Luke gone to the Dark side and joined his father in overthrowing Sidious; we may have had a very different ending with Vader turning to the light. If Vader was serious about wanting to rule the galaxy as father and son, then he was a revolutionary. If not, then he'd be sick to want to have his own son kill him to perpetuate the rule of 2. Are there actually any instances of family Mentors and students? Dark or lightside?

  • @MAYH3M0NE
    @MAYH3M0NE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Darth Vader ever learn how to Dougie?

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is Canon for me!

  • @travisbartlett7385
    @travisbartlett7385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch the "Clone Wars". Anakin KNEW about Force Ghosts...

  • @michaelgarcia8602
    @michaelgarcia8602 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Empr wants to keep Vader weak.

  • @hypersecures
    @hypersecures 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeahhhhhh

  • @BeanieDoggerson
    @BeanieDoggerson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate that outro so much😂

  • @spinofthewheel5345
    @spinofthewheel5345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does it even matter

  • @Turtles21
    @Turtles21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yuo*

  • @kidaround5
    @kidaround5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lord momin was right

  • @wroughton93
    @wroughton93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the past, sith destroy sith. Funny how thats how they both die in the end

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all of the Legends material presented on this channel. No one else is as dedicated to the EU.
    I don’t understand why so many people are upset Disney did not accept the EU material as canon. George Lucas never did.

  • @emilyiscool891
    @emilyiscool891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Notification squd

  • @redninja1085
    @redninja1085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First

    • @Freeman844
      @Freeman844 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      After awhile nobody’s gonna see your comment

    • @redninja1085
      @redninja1085 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xxbutter Don’t really care