Brand new, looking to get started with music in general, but specifically the Hurdy Gurdy. I'm going to do it, no matter how hard it is or how long it takes. I just want you to know, I appreciate you, it's extremely difficult to find this kind of information about HG. Thank you from a future HG player! :)
@@bobbisrex9970 howdy. I ordered my HG from MM Gurdies, www.Ancestore.eu. Michalina Malisz and her Husband make them. I am not scheduled to receive it until June of 2022. I started playing Piano in the meantime and learning to read music. So far, so good. Excited to get the instrument... it's a test of patience to even get a quality one though.
Hello Sergio! I'm starting with a second-hand gurdy and after seeing the video I have a question: I understood you can stretch the C drone string to sound like a D, but can you do the same with the melodic strings? Because mine already look too stretched when they sound open G, I'm afraid they may break if I try an A. That's because I would like to play some irish music with friends playing in D.
Good, thanks, but all your example melodies were in minor modes. What if you want to play a song that's in a major mode? Are there tunings that support all the common modes?
D/G tuning is most of the times higher than G/C although there’s some modern trend using Viola C strings to have a D3 Is it possible with a soprano? Well it might not work the best if the string length is short, but you can try, maybe pick high tension string
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thankyou Sergio, yes I was wanting to reach some lower notes on my soprano....or bluff my way though it to make the tone...I will try what you've suggested.
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats I just got a gurdy that is also 1/2/1 and I was reccomended to tune the trompette to D3, both chanters to G3, and drone to G2. Is this g/c tuning? Is there a tuning more preferable for a complete novice? Also I just found this channel and it's super helpful! I don't know how I haven't found you earlier.
Hello, that would still be G/C, its a good tuning, but C4///G3/G4///C3 is more interesting as drone and trompette can be retunable to D and you can play C and D modes
Hi Sergio. Is it posible to change the tune of a chanter so you go from g' to low G by just placing the proper string (I look for a lower sound). Is there any trouble with this? Thanks in advance.
During your string recommendations you list a .84mm savarez as working for the G trumpet, but when looking for the string .84mm is listed as an A and .89mm is listed as a G. Was this a typo? Or are you saying to tune an A string to G? I'm planning to build a nerdy gurdy and this has been the most helpful info I've found to figure out what strings to use for trumpets, thank you.
Savarez Alliance from classical guitar is 0.84 in fluorocarbon, this is to be tuned in C or D in G it works but its best to choose a thicker string for G trompette, something like 1.20mm
This is interesting but wouldn't it be simpler as a reference to mention what a typical 6-string G/C tuning uses? Like, G4 chanterelles if in unison, or G4 and G3 if tuned an octave apart, C4 trompette, G3 mouche, C3 petit bourdon, G2 gros bourdon.
is Kürschner good for melody strings? All suppliers near me are out of vision strings, and on Kürschner's website they recommend a 0,82mm plain gut for G' chanterelle. They're also recommending a 1,62mm wound gut for G (I'm trying for a setup where one of my chanterelles is one octave lower than the other). I've used savarez gut for chanterelles but I am not liking the sound too much.
The drones and trompettes CAN be tuned in C and G, but that has nothing to be with G/C tuning because they can also be tuned to D or A ;) As I explain in the video G/C = open melody string / root note of the scale with more range
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thanks for replying to my comment. So the g/c tuning is to do with the melody strings so what does it mean if the drone is c/g is it tuned to c or g?
If someone said that, it looks like a misconception, but most used drones and trompettes in C/G are C D and G If you have two drones and two trompettes tune them to C (retunable to D) and G
Hey! How are you? We play in the metal band and tune our guitar in drop A. What tuning would you suggest for hurdy gurdy to be able to play some nice melodies with our guitars? Thanks for help!!!
Depends a lot on the type of metal you make, the keys of your tunes and they way you compose, metal is mostly tonal and gurdies are super modal, G melody string works good to play A modes
Ohh thats great news, so our gurdy player doesnt have to change tuning! Her Gurdy's Drones are tuned to G3 and G4, can we tune them up to A so she can play modaly to some of our tunes? It should be ok, just one step up? Sorry for trouble, I think like a guitarist. :) Thank you so much for reply!
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats how about tuning D melodic to E and drons to A? Would the same approach like in C/G tuning apply then, 3rd button should be an A? And she would have easy access to a major scale as well.
Thats less standard, any tunning is possible but G/C works good with A drones... Without knowing the pieces and keys you play its very hard to recommend a tuning, trust your player
I just got my first hurdy gurdy from china(I couldn't afford European made one, but still cost me 9k) I've got a few questions to ask, and if you answer for those, I would be really appreciated. 1. first 2 tuning pegs on the end of the head are super hard to move, do you think this is awfully made one or is it usually that hard? 2. fist trumpet string is connected with nylon string to the tuning peg on bottom, what is this? do I have to cut it off? 3. it only has 1 tuning peg on the bottom what is this for? 4. when all the strings are connected, it is hard to move the wheel while playing keys, is it another sign of awfully made instrument or is it normal?
I supose you mean 900 and not 9k, sadly those chinese gurdies are made from pictures and are very problematic, almost unplayable That beeing said, you need to understand the mechanics of the instrument and how everything works, I suggest you reach Steve Tyler, Scott Marshall or Sanne van Gend for some lessons
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats ah yeah my mistake 900dollars Seems like you which product I'm talking I thought it will be playable because the seller somehow has good feedback and rating regarding string instrument Can you inform me what issues are there that makes this chinese hurdy gurdy unplayable? Because if know then, at least i would try to change the parts or fix it
I cant rly find the two drone strings you mentioned. I search for the Savarez BFC 1850 , Savarez BFC 854 but i dont get any results oO? Do they have other names or am i just to dumb for google? xD I am from germany. Are there any Drone options i could buy on Thomann?^^ Thx in advance
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats Thx, but are there any less expensive options? I have a Nerdy Gurdy. Or do you think its worth the money even for the Nerdy Gurdy?
No subtitulo en español porque lleva mucho trabajo para el poco publico español que tengo, no obstante cualquier persona puede escribir subtítulos en los vídeos, así que si te animas, la comunidad española de zanfona lo apreciará :P
I've watched a few of your videos now and this answered a ton of my questions. I was curious about replacement strings and what to use.
Brand new, looking to get started with music in general, but specifically the Hurdy Gurdy. I'm going to do it, no matter how hard it is or how long it takes. I just want you to know, I appreciate you, it's extremely difficult to find this kind of information about HG. Thank you from a future HG player! :)
How is it going?
@@bobbisrex9970 howdy. I ordered my HG from MM Gurdies, www.Ancestore.eu. Michalina Malisz and her Husband make them. I am not scheduled to receive it until June of 2022. I started playing Piano in the meantime and learning to read music. So far, so good. Excited to get the instrument... it's a test of patience to even get a quality one though.
@@twistbeard Hello! How did it go? Did you get your instrument? Hope you’re well and everything worked out for you.
Finally video i looking for with informations about tunings ;D thx man!
Np dude :) !
Thanks again :o) Excelent video ! My Gurdies are almost dancing yet !! soon soon
Where do i get a hurdy like yours?
This was made by Sedo Garcia
I did watch it a second time and... I understood everything :D I think I'm ready! :3
Thank you a lot for your help! Very clear :)
Hey great video thank you.
Have you got any tips on practicing at night :) any tricks for practicing but not wake your neighbours up?
Thank you for the strings advice! ^_^
haha wow you made it till the end! :)
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats I'll need to watch it again 🤣
thank you for the tuning and strings tips, do you have some music scores for medieval melodies ?
Yes I have a whole music library on my web hurdygurdystraps.com
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thank you, i see now.
Hello Sergio! I'm starting with a second-hand gurdy and after seeing the video I have a question:
I understood you can stretch the C drone string to sound like a D, but can you do the same with the melodic strings? Because mine already look too stretched when they sound open G, I'm afraid they may break if I try an A.
That's because I would like to play some irish music with friends playing in D.
Nornally there's no problem tuning up to A on the melody string, at least I can tune up to A with viola G string on 390mm string length instrument
Usefull ! Thank you Sergio. What tune is played at 4'20" ? :)
Napoleon in Morocco by Nigel Eaton
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thanks Sergio
Well, i found out... its Lyvet 😅
@@robbiguitar6126 you are right, my mistake
That was so useful! Thank you!
By the way, what is your the intro songs name?)
Thanks, la sansonette ;)
Good, thanks, but all your example melodies were in minor modes. What if you want to play a song that's in a major mode? Are there tunings that support all the common modes?
Of course, a drone does not disturb any mode it favours it, including major
I see. A better question, from someone who doesn't know the instrument at all: Are the keys Chromatic intervals, then?
@@useurhed yes
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats Gracias mucho, Senor
What kind of strings can you use for sympathetic / resonance strings?
Viola d’amore, kanun, sitar or steel guitar strings in that order
What is the name of the song at the end of the video? It is very good! Thanks!
Its called la sansonette :)
It it possible to have a soprano Gurdy to have more a lower range to that of a viola? This D G tuning ?
D/G tuning is most of the times higher than G/C although there’s some modern trend using Viola C strings to have a D3
Is it possible with a soprano? Well it might not work the best if the string length is short, but you can try, maybe pick high tension string
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thankyou Sergio, yes I was wanting to reach some lower notes on my soprano....or bluff my way though it to make the tone...I will try what you've suggested.
If I have a 1/2/1 Hurdy gurdy do I tune the drone and trompette to C and then both Chanters to G or one to G and one to C?
You can tune drone and trompette to C (retunable to D) and tune chanters in octaves or one to C and the other to D :)
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats I just got a gurdy that is also 1/2/1 and I was reccomended to tune the trompette to D3, both chanters to G3, and drone to G2.
Is this g/c tuning? Is there a tuning more preferable for a complete novice?
Also I just found this channel and it's super helpful! I don't know how I haven't found you earlier.
Hello, that would still be G/C, its a good tuning, but C4///G3/G4///C3 is more interesting as drone and trompette can be retunable to D and you can play C and D modes
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats wow! Quick reply, thank you! I will be doing a lot of experimenting and learning, this will help.
On a 2/2/2 gurdy do you recommend the drones at C2 and G2 or both drones in the same key at different octaves?
I'd go for G2 and C3
hello hurdy gurdy what type of wire is used in melody, trumpet, drone wire
Check my other videos, there's one talking about strings
@@volkan2372 btw lol I literally explain it in this video, I think you didn't watch it 🤣🤣
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats I just saw it, I will watch it soon, by the way, I don't know English, I'm translating and watching it, thanks for helping
Hi Sergio. Is it posible to change the tune of a chanter so you go from g' to low G by just placing the proper string (I look for a lower sound). Is there any trouble with this? Thanks in advance.
Yes, you can just change the string
Thanks Sergio!!!
He says we are crankers. I like to call us Crankheads
During your string recommendations you list a .84mm savarez as working for the G trumpet, but when looking for the string .84mm is listed as an A and .89mm is listed as a G. Was this a typo? Or are you saying to tune an A string to G? I'm planning to build a nerdy gurdy and this has been the most helpful info I've found to figure out what strings to use for trumpets, thank you.
Savarez Alliance from classical guitar is 0.84 in fluorocarbon, this is to be tuned in C or D in G it works but its best to choose a thicker string for G trompette, something like 1.20mm
This is interesting but wouldn't it be simpler as a reference to mention what a typical 6-string G/C tuning uses? Like, G4 chanterelles if in unison, or G4 and G3 if tuned an octave apart, C4 trompette, G3 mouche, C3 petit bourdon, G2 gros bourdon.
is Kürschner good for melody strings? All suppliers near me are out of vision strings, and on Kürschner's website they recommend a 0,82mm plain gut for G' chanterelle. They're also recommending a 1,62mm wound gut for G (I'm trying for a setup where one of my chanterelles is one octave lower than the other). I've used savarez gut for chanterelles but I am not liking the sound too much.
If you like gut on chanters, I think Kürschner is the best, but I personally enjoy viola strings more on my gurdy
Hey there, do you know where can I find one in Brazil?
I'm not sure if ELZ is selling in brazil, I think he just exports
Is the trumpet called that because it's a high tone, and drone because it's bassier? If you get my badly worded question.
Correct ;)
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thank you, very fast response!
Will these strings work on the Nerdy too? If not, which do you recommend? Thanks
Yes they would work, although I would try to keep my choice as cheap as simple for the nerdy
So i saw a video and it said the drone was c/g and the trompette was c/g do you think they mixed up the order or is this actually how it was tuned?
The drones and trompettes CAN be tuned in C and G, but that has nothing to be with G/C tuning because they can also be tuned to D or A ;)
As I explain in the video G/C = open melody string / root note of the scale with more range
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thanks for replying to my comment. So the g/c tuning is to do with the melody strings so what does it mean if the drone is c/g is it tuned to c or g?
If someone said that, it looks like a misconception, but most used drones and trompettes in C/G are C D and G
If you have two drones and two trompettes tune them to C (retunable to D) and G
Hey! How are you? We play in the metal band and tune our guitar in drop A. What tuning would you suggest for hurdy gurdy to be able to play some nice melodies with our guitars? Thanks for help!!!
Depends a lot on the type of metal you make, the keys of your tunes and they way you compose, metal is mostly tonal and gurdies are super modal, G melody string works good to play A modes
Ohh thats great news, so our gurdy player doesnt have to change tuning! Her Gurdy's Drones are tuned to G3 and G4, can we tune them up to A so she can play modaly to some of our tunes? It should be ok, just one step up? Sorry for trouble, I think like a guitarist. :) Thank you so much for reply!
Exactly, it always depends on the key of the piece and how tonal is
But G,A,C,D should be comfortable
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats how about tuning D melodic to E and drons to A? Would the same approach like in C/G tuning apply then, 3rd button should be an A? And she would have easy access to a major scale as well.
Thats less standard, any tunning is possible but G/C works good with A drones... Without knowing the pieces and keys you play its very hard to recommend a tuning, trust your player
D/G, Sergio. D/G
nooooo G/C ¬¬ hahahaha
What do you do if the third key doesn't go to C when it's tuned to G?
sorry I don't understand your question, if your gurdy is chromatic and your open string is G, you should have C on your 3rd key
I just got my first hurdy gurdy from china(I couldn't afford European made one, but still cost me 9k)
I've got a few questions to ask, and if you answer for those, I would be really appreciated.
1. first 2 tuning pegs on the end of the head are super hard to move, do you think this is awfully made one or is it usually that hard?
2. fist trumpet string is connected with nylon string to the tuning peg on bottom, what is this? do I have to cut it off?
3. it only has 1 tuning peg on the bottom what is this for?
4. when all the strings are connected, it is hard to move the wheel while playing keys, is it another sign of awfully made instrument or is it normal?
I supose you mean 900 and not 9k, sadly those chinese gurdies are made from pictures and are very problematic, almost unplayable
That beeing said, you need to understand the mechanics of the instrument and how everything works, I suggest you reach Steve Tyler, Scott Marshall or Sanne van Gend for some lessons
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats ah yeah my mistake 900dollars
Seems like you which product I'm talking
I thought it will be playable because the seller somehow has good feedback and rating regarding string instrument
Can you inform me what issues are there that makes this chinese hurdy gurdy unplayable?
Because if know then, at least i would try to change the parts or fix it
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I cant rly find the two drone strings you mentioned. I search for the Savarez BFC 1850
, Savarez BFC 854 but i dont get any results oO? Do they have other names or am i just to dumb for google? xD I am from germany. Are there any Drone options i could buy on Thomann?^^ Thx in advance
Check on La Maison de la vielle
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats Thx, but are there any less expensive options? I have a Nerdy Gurdy. Or do you think its worth the money even for the Nerdy Gurdy?
Yes there are cheaper options, check my posts on nerdy gurdy builders facebook page, I posted options with guitar strings
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats many thx! Will do that.
im unable to find the savarez bfc 1850 for a c drone, any tips?
You can also use cello strings as said at the end of the video
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats thanks! Any particular style of cello string?
6:46
Like most videos about strings, it seems to be a matter of opinion!
¿Por que no subtitulas en español?
No subtitulo en español porque lleva mucho trabajo para el poco publico español que tengo, no obstante cualquier persona puede escribir subtítulos en los vídeos, así que si te animas, la comunidad española de zanfona lo apreciará :P
@@Sergio.GonzalezPrats. Pregunto por los subtítulos , porque no hablo inglés, si supiera no preguntaría. Gracias igual por el intrés demostrado.
A ver si encontramos a alguien con tiempo para subtitular, creo que incluso hay formas de hacerlo en automático
I'm waiting for him to say "OK" after every statement.... It must be the wrong region.
Too bad I did not say OK a lot here 🤷🏼♀️
Brian David Gilbert sent me here
Yeah he did not read my FAQ sadly hahaha
is this real?
What do you mean? 🤣