Where Sound Of Music Live 2013 Went Wrong
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2018
- The Sound of Music Live 2013 started a fad of yearly live musicals, but also left little to live up to.
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I wasn’t crazy about Carrie’s voice. She seemed to force the high notes and she was awkward sometimes. However, when she was in her range, it was beautiful! I loved about Laura’s performance.
One thing that always amazes me with the play is why the Captain didn’t hear the singing of Do rah me while he is in the house and yet further along in the play he hears The Sound of Music which is such a gentle song.
The biggest problem with NBC is definitely directorial more than the actors individually. Everyone has the same problem: they’re all too rushed. For an example, right before No Way To Stop It where neither Georg nor Max take a breath before saying their lines. Elsa asks ‘would you defy them?’ and Georg says yes without missing a beat. Accurate - that’s in character. But Max doesn’t give a second for the words to sink in before responding, when he needs to; it’s not the answer he was expecting. Even Audra was done dirty. The bit before Climb Ev’ry Mountain, she sounds like she’s asking Maria about her prom date, not trying to help her with the biggest decision of her life.
As for the Captain, he’s so much better in the film not just because of Christopher Plummer (RIP) but because he and Ernest Lehman (screenwriter and unsung hero of the film) worked to give the character more depth. And that’s another reason the argument is so much better on film; along with the added scenes of dinner and Georg bursting in at the end of the thunderstorm. The argument comes out of nowhere in the musical; but those two scenes give it more weight. There has been animosity between them, and Maria’s ACTIVELY going against orders, so it makes sense for her to just let it all out. In the show, for all we know they haven’t talked since he left her alone with the children, which was five minutes after they met; and according to the script, six weeks ago in-universe.
There are actually some very awkward moments in the script. No hate to Lindsay and Crouse, but some lines are cringey. And the scene where Georg tells Maria about the telegram causes me pain. That one actually is Not Good. Thank goodness Ernest Lehman changed that.
(Cutting No Way To Stop It and How Can Love Survive? from the film was the right decision; the changes made to the movie’s plot don’t serve those songs. Sad, because they’re some of my favourite songs, and Elsa and Max are awesome, despite everything.)
Things I liked about NBC:
1. the costumes. Carrie’s dresses were bad, (her homecoming one makes her look pregnant) but points for putting her in a dirndl a lot. But everyone else’s outfits looked pretty good.
2. There’s a line before Climb Ev’ry Mountain where the Reverend Mother asks Maria if she likes the Captain. In every other version I’ve seen Maria just says “yes.” Here she says “I like the kindness in his eyes, I like the way he speaks even when he’s stern, I like the way he smiles at little Gretl.” Essentially saying she loves him without saying “I love him.”
Just go watch ITV Live. It’s so much better.
i thought it was amazing. yes of course not as amazing as the movie but you can’t really compare the film to a live version. in the film they could redo the scenes multiple times and they actually had like real places and stuff.
I've since seen the BBC live action production, and it just highlights how bad the NBC one was. Same conditions where they couldn't do retakes, and yet the actors were able to actually act and perform their lines with the nuance the script requires. Not to mention the moments a character interupts another don't sound as artificial as they do in the NBC one.
I think it’s hard to compare the movie to the staged musical because the script is very different!! I was in a production of sound of music and some of the things you pointed out you can’t blame on anyone other than the script. (Like Maria Praying when she enters the house) now don’t get me wrong there are things they could improve but don’t compare every single thing to the movie. (Also I played Frau Schmidt, shes a very funny character that goes underrated. Same goes for the Barroness)
There are some things that I have walked back in understanding the separation between stage and film like to kneeling amd praying thing, but I'm still not a fan of the direction of the leads amd how they performed their characters. Not even in comparison with the film, but also as compared with the 2015 BBC production.
It was actually closer to the feeling of Maria’s autobiography “The Von Trapp Family Singers.”
Even so, I still prefer the BBC Live version. Same book and script, but better directed and performed.
Okay I know I’m late but, which child actor/actress do you think did the best job? I don’t really know but I think for me it would be a tie between Peyton Ella (Gretl) or Sophia Anne Caruso (Birgitta) idk why it’s just I feel like Peyton was a really cute Gretl! I also feel like Sophia played Birgitta well. Idk what do you think?
I really enjoyed it.
*shrugs* Nothing wrong with that I guess. I just didn't because I feel other versions highlight the failings of this one.
This is a great video.
Thank you ^^
"-people weren't talking about Sound of Music Live-"
*me remembering Rob Walker's Facebook meltdown*
... well I can think of one :)
Oh really? Dang I missed that
by the way -nobody could replace Julie Andrews-- what everyone fails to realize is this event was based on the broadway show, go on iTunes to see the songlist order. There were songs in the play that didn't appear in the movie-was Underwood the greatest broadway star- no-but they chose her because of her voice and following. I met her before a concert and had her autograph my SOML video. She said it was the hardest thing she'd ever done--I told her I loved it and meant it. You see I'm not the snob some people are and for nbc and carrie to bring broadway into the living room=I was grateful and its ratings were over the top-yes reviews were mixed but I enjoyed it and a couple hundreds of thousands did too
why was Julie crossed out
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I didn't mind her voice, but her acting just wasn't there one bit. And I don't mean to imply Julie Andrews can be the only Maria. In fact, the 2015 BBC live production has everything I wanted from NBC's show like competent actimg that showcases the subtleties of the characters. I'm also not bothered by the differing songs either. In fact, the musical version has some of my favourite numbers like "No Way To Stop It"
I thought that singing and her acting was terrible
There should be a ranking of American Idol contestants acting careers.
Maybe. Someone else should do it tho. Not me
@@NotAVampyre That would take a long time anyways. I feel bad for Idol contestants who don't like musicals because the majority end up doing musicals.
I will say that since it was one of the first films I ever saw, I will always have a special place in my heart for 'The Sound of Music', even in spite of how it's often considered saccharine and corny, and even with all the liberties it has taken with the true story (the REAL Captain Von Trapp would use a whistle to summon his children, but he never drilled them like naval cadettes).
If nothing else, Robert Wise really knew how to make his films visually-appealling-especially at a time when most other musical-film adaptations just consisted of one camera filming characters and their dialogue as if it was all on a stage, instead of varying shots and angles to keep them interesting. It's thanks to his film that the Salzburg region of Austria (as well as similar regions of Europe in general) are popular for tourism. My family and were able to go see similar regions across Switzerland, Germany, and Vienna-and they are just GLORIOUS!
Of course nobody can fill Julie Andrews' shoes, but everyone on board the film considered Christopher Plummer to be the glue that held the entire cast and crew together-which is really impressive, given that Plummer really DIDN'T want to star in the musical, and would frequently look back on it with great distain. That's really impressive when someone who isn't fond of the material they're given to work with, still manages to shine through and keep audiences invested!
Fun fact: There plans at one point for Yul Brenner (the film version of 'The King and I') to play the captain.
The liberties taken with the story don't really factor in for me. It's assumed most "based on a true story" stories are mostly fiction. Plus I watched a short documentary about the real Von Trapps, so I know how much the musical diverts from reality.
He definitely did a good job of capturing the majesty of the country side and made it look an appealing place to holiday in!
Regardless of his personal feelings, I'm glad Plummer took the role. No doubt Yul Bryner would've done well, but I'd need to have seen him in more than two roles to judge. He does have subtle charm displayed in his King of Siam and even in his bit as Ramses II in The Ten Commandments, but it's hard to imagine anyone other than Plummer as the Captain.
I definitely know that anything 'based on a true story' that isn't a documentary, is going to take creative liberties in some form or another. That's just part of telling an engaging story and having to fill in the gaps that have to be interpreted when no other live-witnesses were there with the subject figure, who is already telling their story from THEIR perspective, and their perspective alone. And it interests me to find out stuff that sounded plausibly true to me turned out to be ficitonalized, and even sometimes the other way around!
What I think people take most issue with when adapting stories about real figures is the fact that depending on how you depict it, you run the risk of insulting real (sometimes massive groups of) people, unlike adapting a novel or a sequel where your biggest risk is pissing off the fans/creators of the original. 'The King and I', after all, is a great show by itself, but I don't think anyone's going to argue that it does justice to the legacy of King Monkgut or Siamese culture in general. (It's probably not on the levels of insulting as making animated films about the Titanic sinking, but I think that's largely because the animated Titanic movies are just poorly-crafted overall.)
True true. I love remembering there's animated Titanic movies. I tried to watch the first one Diva reviewed and I legit couldn't sit through it. And I got through the animated King and I!
NotAVampyre The animated King and I is one of my least favorite movies of all time, not just because of how stupid it is, but because it cause the estates of Rogers and Hammerstein to ban anymore animated adaptations of their properties. The problem wasn't that it was animated, but because it is filled with so many of the same clichés and tropes that those unfamiliar with animation typically associate with it, it's understandable how one would be led to believe that.
But of course, all of the animated Titanic movies are DEFINITELY worse!
I have to wonder who the audience for an animated R/H musical would be except for theater buffs. I don't mind so much not having anymore animated versions because there's not much you can't already do in film or on stage, especially because the stories are very reality based. Nothing that would require special effects or fantasy elements.
Excellent commentary and top-notch critique!
Thank you!!
5:46 Hit the nail right on the head. The movie is vastly superior to any stage version because the stage script tells more than shows, which (thank God) screenwriter Ernest Lehman rewrote for the movie to show more than tell.
I will say that the 2 BBC live version is worth a watch now that I've seen it. In some parts it can't compare with the movie because of the necessarily different mediums, but if it were my first exposure to the stage show, I would've been much happier.
@@NotAVampyre interesting! I will need to give it a watch.
It seems to me that, particularly in light of your analysis, the performance of The sound of music live was based in large part on mass awareness on the part of those involved of what media resources we already had what opportunity to produce they didn't. Basically, they leaned into the presence of existing material and betrayed a history of consumers building their minds and their expectations buy deliberately phoning their own performance in, and how ugly does that look when applied to a plethora of modern production resources and funding streams?
I’ll say that NBC’s live musicals have definitely come a long way since The Sound of Music Live! that their live musical presentations of The Wiz, Hairspray and Jesus Christ Superstar in Concert are much better than their first 2. I didn’t see Annie Live! because I was expecting that to be a disaster but I’ve heard it got good ratings so maybe I’ll check it out sometime.
I’ll give credit to the producers and director of The Sound of Music Live! to be more faithful to the original Broadway musical than the more popular 1965 film adaptation as a way to differentiate itself from the film instead of trying to be a carbon copy *cough* Lion King (2019) *cough* similar to what Steven Spielberg’s West Side Story did to make itself stand well on its own without being too similar to the 1961 film adaptation.
Well, there's still 'Into the Woods' live! Granted the American Playhouse recording was all the way back from the 80s, but it still counts, and even as someone who did like the film version, I still think the live show is superior. But as for others like 'The Wiz' live, I'll say that however it turns out, it's very unlikely that it'll be any worse than the Schumacher film adaptation.
As for others that would lend themselves easily to great live stage performances, I think Diva (of Musical Hell) already had a good selection on her list; she did include 'Once on this Island' on her list, and as of her latest Know the Score, she mentioned that the newly-revised edition will at least be going on tour next year. Even if it doesn't get a live broadcast, at least the tour will be a great way to give it the exposure it deserves.
I don't really count filmed live performances, otherwise Phantom 2011 might've been listed here. I'm more talking about filmed live for TV like the recent NBC or Fox broadcasts.
Diva has been a good source for things I need to look up, even if she doesn't like them. For instance, Camelot is one of my favorite shows though she disliked the movie.
Yeah. Diva is one of my favorites, and even I don't agree with her on everything. And always, that's totally okay, because it shows that we're individuals. (I know after all, that you were actually pretty neutral to Schumacher's film version of Phantom, even though she and most other Phantom fans really hated it.)
Again, I frequently tune into Lindsay Ellis' content, largely because she has talked about (particularly in her Pre-Thanksgiving 2016 video about socializing with families) the importance of trying to understand where others are coming from and being open-minded, even if I not only disagree but really DON'T LIKE hearing some of the things she's said. (In one of her most recent videos, she said that she really hates Prince of Egypt, which is one of my favorite movies of all time; there admittedly is this small part of me that gets rather defensive when I hear someone talking smack about something I personally hold dear, especially if it doesn't have so high a cultural stanz that a little bad-mouthing is not going to hurt its success/reputation).
As for live-TV broadcasts, I admit that I hardly tune in to those anymore, because I find that they aim more just to please the masses, rather than be innovative. Yes, this is a business, and all businesses need to make a profit. But this is a venue that calls for more creativity than others, and some of NBC's choices seem to be more about playing it safe than doing broadcast shows that people will want to see and talk about (with the exception of more mature-themes shows like 'Rocky Horror Picture', which even then, already has a largely renowned film adaptation).
Watch Endless Jess' video on Rocky Horror. They play that safe too.
Okay, I'll concede that. But there were also the intentions to do a live version of RENT. That's not exactly one that you can play safe very easily.
The Sound of Music Live! 2013 is awesome. I watch it all the time.
Eh gonna have to disagree
NotAVampyre that’s fine. The other Live musicals I love that I bought are -
* Andrew Lloyd Webber’s The Phantom of the Opera (The 25th Anniversary concert)
* Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Love Never Dies
* Les Miserables (The 25th Anniversary concert)
* Shrek
* Carousel
* Disney’s Newsies
* Hairspray Live!
* Grease Live!
* Peter Pan Live!
* Rent
* Barnum (it’s available on Amazon Prime and on TH-cam)
Eleanor Parker the Baroness in the 1965 film died on or about the premiere of this “Live” version.
:(
Good analysis. I am a lifelong fan(-atic) of the movie, and have seen it 100s of times. It (the movie) is such a masterpiece, it would be hard for any production to top it, but your points are well taken. How could they POSSIBLY not find two, far more compelling lead actors? The Captain! So wooden! and, as you said, basically UNattractive. I have no idea of the answer. I diverge with you on the two songs dumped from the movie (although, of course, two -- "I Have Confidence" & "Something Good" were duly added). You have the von Trapp house where the Captain strictly marches the children, and eschews music and any/all reminders of his late wife . . . then next moment, Max, the Baroness and Georg are doing an up-tempo number on the patio. Er . . . I DON'T THINK SO!! And those songs are both much too "stage-ey" to have been left in the movie -- their purpose, after all, in the stage version, is to give Max and the Baroness time in the musical spotlight. No real other reason. Actually, one could argue "How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria?" is in that same category, but Wise rescued it by including it in the Wedding apotheosis, which, of course, cleverly answered that very question. Yes, there are some high school and local community theater TSOM productions on TH-cam that are not a heck of a lot worse than the TV special: and some, quite a bit better! Thanks for the video! ---Mike
This is pretty amazing, considering how much people have cracked on Peter Pan Live, basically using it as a basis for destroying this performance series, but of course, this panning is highly retroactive.
I'm not understanding what you're saying. Could you clarify?
Audra McDonald was amazing. Carrie was ok.
tara thelen When isn’t Audra McDonald amazing?
@@cutiepuppy4427 true
tara thelen she’s Audra FUCKING McDonald
Okay, but seriously, when Christian Borle isn't the best? (Or at least one of the best)
I didn't care for his portrayal of Mr Darling, but I'm willing to believe he could've been poorly directed
I agree 😉😀 no one compares to the original Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer 1965 The Sound of Music 🎶 not one... 😊
The original Maria was Mary Martin, not Julie Andrews.
''the original 1965 Sound of Music" not talking about the original Maria.
Who let that poor child pronounce "adieu" in the French way instead of in the English way, which actually rhymes with "you". The yeuh (3 times) had us all howling with laughter, and then we stopped in horror. Plus somebody should have told Carrie, your hair has to change! Oh and not to mention on live TV, they lost the feed for a noticeable amount of time. Yeah, it was wooden. I've seen better on a high school stage. Glad Audra McDonald was in there, though we had to wait forever for her, and then of course her part was tiny. Poor Carrie must have felt nervous to have to sing with her.
So was this some TV executive's honey who was in charge of this mess?
5:45 Sophia Ann Caruso
I was excited at the concept of live stage. But, disappointed at the delivery. When you have a film comparison, the live has to be stronger, and these performances sadly are not.
I recommend you check out the BBC's 2015 Sound of Music live. It's a way better version of this
I thought the live version was terrible all of them were screaming
Screaming?
They were talking very very loud and they weren’t believable
Ah I see. I wouldn't have called it screaming, but it definitely didn't sound natural except for a couple of people. Have you seen the 2015 BBC live version?
No
Highly recommend it. Much better experience
Wow, with all the respect in the world. Ignorance is really sad. Don't even know where to start. First of all the film was based on the musical. Sencondly . . . well, whats the use. I have seen the musical so many times, Broadway, Hollywood bowl, London Palladium, this is far the best I've ever seen.
Don't know about _that_ Rocky Horror Picture Show Live, but there is one that aired on BBC America 2015ish that I saw on TV when it aired. I loved it a lot, and it shows up on youtube occasionally (I found only the second half of the show available right now: th-cam.com/video/e7vx6HFGrgo/w-d-xo.html if you'd want a preview of sorts). There's a few long parts with the hostess if I remember correctly, but only before the show and the intermission. Hope you check it out.
I did not hear about this one. I think I'll need to check it out! Thanks for sending it my way!
I love how the only good part of this show was tbe broadway actors
As if they know what they're doing....
Only came for Audra McDonald and walked away happy. Don’t really care for Carrie Underwood in general so…yeah, nah. They could have gotten a better singer.
Carrie isn't a bad singer. More that she's a bad actor.
disagree I thought it was great
Why's that?
I agree. It was great!
why's that?
Such a ridiculous and misleading review. Shows a whole lot of ignorance about so many aspects of the Live production of the musical that its hard even to begin. 6.7k subscribers, really?
Could you explain? If I'm misunderstanding things, id like to know what they are.
They had a month to get into character, do the blocking, costumes, casting, sets, and do the dances before they had to do the sound of music live.
So just back off everyone!!
Unlike the movie where they had more time to get into character, do the blocking, costumes, casting, sets, and do the dances before the sound of music aired.
Something you're ignoring though is 1: these shows don't work like high school theater. You don't all practice from scratch with everyone for months. You go into rehearsals knowing your lines and the songs because before that point you practiced with coaches. That's how professional productions run
2: Broadway and other shows do this all the time and don't consistently turn out like this.
3: You can point to other NBC live shows that while I dislike for other reasons didn't have these issues and assumably ran on a similar schedule like Peter Pan live and Hairspray.
Look, we can have a long debate on this but it’s not worth it. Here is what I will say I love the Sound of Music both the old one and new one, and you did make valid points. But nothing you or anyone else can say about this movie will ever change how I feel about it.
Thank you🙂
I didn't set out to change anyone's opinion, and I'm sorry if it came out this way. It was not my goal for this. All I set out to do in this video is explain why I don't like this version.
@@NotAVampyre that's alright
Wrong cast.
I hate the live version of sound of music