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SENPAI NOTICED ME! Excellent video, btw!
While I'm not exactly a fan of the theory of Crocodile having once been a woman, I feel that you have done the best job by far for providing evidence and justifying it's story relevance.
Again, I appreciate the shout-out. And I love hearing your ideas on the theory of Crocodile being Xebec's child. I'm happy to see this theory gaining some traction.
I read your reddit post on this. Great theory!
This is a w theory. Being recognized by Dak is an honor for sure
So glad you liked it!! It’s an amazing theory! Glad to see your theory getting the love it deserves
And yes I agree about Female Croc - I am also not a huge fan, but if it’s ALL because he’s hiding his true identity it would make a lot of sense with Iva. But either way, croc is rocks child! For sure!
The idea that Crocodile is Rocks' kid is so interesting. Your points and the ones laid out here are pretty convincing.
Crocs
Rocks
Yeaa sounds simillar
This is my new favorite Crocodile theory! Him being 8 years old during God Valley is so significant especially since that's when Rocks most likely died. Shiraoshi, Robin, Momo, Sanji all lost a parent or was separated at the age of 8. Thanks for the shout out Dak!
Nami and luffy lost there parents earlier, his age is not relevant at all
Warden !!!
@@coreywood1312shut up
Woah, tid bit is useful!!!! 8 is a big number huh? Mmmm death/rebirth
@@tosmornHOF4748 there's actually more than those too. Zoro was 8 when Kuina died and Yamtao was also 8 when she witnessed Oden's death that changed her life
The fact that ivan is confirmed to be oon god valley helps this theory alot
One thing worth noting about this is also cross guild's connection to Shanks. Both Buggy and Mihawk have extremely notable relationships with Shanks. Buggy is Shanks' brother (more or less) and Mihawk is Shanks' former rival. If Oda brings cross guild into conflict with the Red Hair pirates, two out of the three Cross Guild members are going to have significant history with Shanks, but not Crocodile? The symmetry of that is off balance unless Croc knows Shanks in a very memorable way too.
I also always thought it strange that Croc just lets Buggy join him and Mr. 1 on the door when they are escaping Impel Down, especially because even Mr. 1 points it out as being weird that he's there and all the other prisoners have to wait for Jinbei's whale sharks to take them to the navy ship. (545)
I reread impel down and marineford and a couple of other things stuck out to me.
1. Buggy knows Croc at a glance but doesn't know Jinbei. Why would Oda have Buggy recognize one Shichibukai but not another one? (546)
2. Croc seems to know of Buggy's relationship to Shanks. When everyone else reacts and gets a line of dialogue, Croc just stands there unimpressed. (549)
also the cover image of 862 has Buggy and Shanks on board the roger pirate ship playing cards with an anthropomorphic crocodile, which is maybe nothing, but also potentially Oda deliberately obscuring Croc's image as to not spoil a reveal
Woah thats interesting
Mmm Shanks and Buggy were babies when the God valley incident happened idk if they would have recognized Crocodile unless they have met after that 🤔
It would be hilarious if Crocodile is revealed as Rocks D. Crocodile to the strawhats and everyone is like "WHAT?!" Except Robin because she already knew of course she would
This works for me for one simple reason: Oda references 70s music all the time, so why not "Crocodile Rock".
Im not sure but isnt Do Flamingo connected to Elton John too?
@@BaxsStudios oh right! The feathers, white suit, and rose colored glasses are totally Elton John. The other 70's influences off the top of my head are Steven Tyler and Ballroom Blitz "She could kill you with a wink of her eye".
I came here to say this, but knew in my heart it had already been said (literally scrolled to load a ton of comments and then ctrl-F'ed it to find this comment)
I dont know about this theory but I do like how it ties in the "Crocodile is gender-swapped" and treats it seriously. Croc being Rocks' kid would be a legitimate reason to ask for a gender-swap and not just a dumb meme.
wasn't there a crocodile drawn as a kid and wasn't that kid a male? If anything if crocodile turned out to be originally female it must have been done rright at god's valley where Ivankov could take pity. But it doens't really make sense from a thoughtful standpoint, history has always told us that rival kings would always kill the sons and the men before they killed the daughters or mothers, so crocodile becoming a man actually puts a larger target on his back.
@@Prideium9001 i mean that sketch of him as a kid could be any sex since it's a child + the whole reason for switching sexes is so he wouldnt be identifiable as rocks child whatsoever. as far as the people who would be looking for crocodile know, rocks didnt have a son. they wouldn't know they're looking for a son instead of a daughter so that larger target wouldnt exist.
@@Prideium9001that drawing was actually pretty androgynous from what I can see. And tho I haven't caught up to the manga, I do know what the seraphim are, and Croco's seraphim somehow looked more androgynous.
@KereTista-km9cknot reallly
@KereTista-km9ck kids bodies haven’t even been introduced to the hormones that really make a persons sexuality more visibly apparent up to and including even bone structure. Aside from the primary sex organs kids are relatively androgynous and I mean, if you claim to know the sex of most kids you look at you’re either lying or exceptionally suspect.
The weirdest thing happened today. A Reddit comment made me think of how easily you could connect Croc and Xebec, I started looking into it, until I found this video and realized you had found all of the same points almost a year earlier.
There is also new info now, such as Iva making his first appearance along with Ginny at GV and then leaving separately from her and Kuma (maybe he left with Croc?).
I like Crocomom personally, and there could've been some compatibility between Croc and Dragon given that there was at least a 3-year period (from Ohara to Luffy's birth) where they both wanted to oppose/take down the WG, and they both know Iva. It also works with Croc moving to Alabasta, since that happened when Luffy was 3. This would also make Luffy and Ace the two instances of two known D. clan members having a child together.
The video was a blast, you definitely have a new sub
I always felt like Iva didn't meet Crco until like later on maybe like his early 20s? maybe Kid Croc was (Unwilling) saved by Whitebeard after rocks died at God Valley.
@@freedomdestiny8269 I don't think we know anything about that part of their lives. The next time we see Iva after God Valley is with Dragon in the early days of the Revolutionary Army, while for Crocodile, it's probably Roger's execution. There's a big gap in the middle so anything goes, really.
now that you point this out, the sketch Oda did for fem Crocodile looks strikingly similar to Robin.
One of my biggest questions of crocodile is just how he got so rich. He’s so rich that he can almost single handedly fund an entire bounty system that rivals the world government’s system. He was basically this rich when we met him, and he was in prison, so his wealth would’ve been confiscated. Him having a stash of Rock’s old treasure to always go back on would make sense, but I feel like the rocks pirates would’ve taken it all, had he died in battle.
Croc honestly was Luffy’s greatest villain.
Croc impaled Luffy, left him fa living corpse, thrpugh him in a pit, watched the put cover over and waited a while to see if he would come back.
Like Pel he should have been dead. Again impaled.
His crew or friends did not save him.
The only reason he survived was because Croc was betrayed by Robin, at the time, basically the second most important person in his organisation.
No other Pirate, not even Kaido, did that
Honestly I totally agree with you. Croc was the greatest adversary, even if not physically the strongest 1v1 fighter
Kaido killed him LOL, Kaido was way worse then croc, dude made him a slave.
@@sarthakarora3212 kaido didn't kill him, it was the Cipher Aegis 0 dude who got the ordered and finger pistoled him during Luffy v Kaido- Final Gear 4
@@sarthakarora3212 And Kaido was upset by that fact. He wanted Luffy to not die. He spent the entire arc almost killing Luffy, commenting on the fact he could kill Luffy and then deliberately not doing.
And we saw Luffy in that Prison, Luffy mostly ended up staying so long for fun and to Train. Dude was hardly a Slave.
@@sarthakarora3212 kaido is an absolute chad and a madlad, so I am not disrespecting him by saying this, but kaido didn't want to kill luffy he I think if we got into the character's head so to speak was lowkey enjoying the new challenge, now he didn't give af if it DID kill him but if homie can barely stay alive? Bet. Heal up. Come back at him again later. That's the way Kaido rocked, his ego was driven by battle lust and even lost himself in it. Croc didn't take as many chances, to be honest, croc really was a great villain but so was kaido. Loved pretty much every villain in the series oda just doin what he do
My theory is that Sir Crocodile is Oda's not so subtle play of Captain Hook from Peter Pan. We already have a Hook and Crocodile connection. Obvious first names then are Peter (self explanatory), John or Michael (Darling brothers), Geogre (Darling Father who in many plays is played by same actor as Captain Hook).
Or we can go deeper, if Oda read original Peter Pan, Captain Hook's real identity is made out to be a big scandalous secret “A man whose real name, if revealed, would set the country in a blaze." Rumoured to also have been Blackbeard's Boatswain and only man John Silver was afraid of. So, plenty of space for fun riffing.
Wow your theory is insane, why Rocks is an organization of individuals that wanted to create their own Utopia and when Xebec died, all of them splitted up and created their own version of Utopia.
Whitebeard - Family Utopia
Big Mom - For all races
Kaido - For all beast that were hunted by others
Shiki - His own Utopia where he ruled everyone
Crocodile - Unknown kind of Utopia... following in his father's footsteps
Blackbeard - Pirate Utopia that gets recognized as a government-affiliated Island
@@Fabo__HD Blackbeard wasn't a part of the Rocks Pirates.
@@cleond.kingfire9113 so? He can still carry his will
@@Fabo__HD I'm respectfully assuming you are on the spectrum, I said that because this comment was about the old members of the Rocks crew. Not because Blackbeard cannot carry on his will or whatever.
@@cleond.kingfire9113 tbh I wouldn't rule it out, but there hasn't been any diagnosis yet, nor been made an attempt to find out; It's just an interesting parallel that Blackbeard also seeks out that goal
I think your point about Crocodile's reaction to Whitebeard's words to Squard is really interesting under the context of him possibly being Rocks' son. His other parallels with Ace are also really interesting. I especially never put together that they looked so similar as kids.
Yeah that part about Whitebeard is my favorite element - Croc may have stopped because he saw how good of a dad WB was and he didn't want to take that away from his kids, because if he did, then its like he created 1000s of orphans like him. Why perpetuate that feeling when WB just proved he was a good dad? ALSO - he clashed with Doflamingo right after saving Ace, like literally the same chapter as the panels I showed, and Doffy is an ex-celestial dragon so that alone could be a hint.
@DaksSake Dak you need to stop cooking. This is too much heat. Imu is going to send the death beam and Andre Iguodala won't be able to save you.
@@zmp323 LMFAOOO that is an unbelievably perfect time for that Iguodala reference omg
@DaksSake LOL I'm so happy you got the reference
oh yeah, I like this one!
the way you broke down the marineford scene like that, really made me think.
not to mention the parallels between croc and ace was HITTING!
Interestingly, xebec is the name of a type of ship. Is this on purpose because rocks is related to pluton? Is that why crocodile was was concerned with pluton? Xebec ships were used mostly by the Barbary pirates, from the Middle East, which in the OP universe is Alabasta. Is that why croc was in alabasta? Blackbeards ship name, sabre of xebec, is named after a weapon and a ship, a sabre and a xebec. Is Blackbeard after pluton?
I've never made the connection of sabre of xebec and ace d roger until now
If ace is named after roger's sword is it possible that both crocodile and blackbeards ship is named after xebec's sword, crocodiles signature attack sables is spanish for sabre
Rocks D. Crocs rolls off the tongue well
Also Croco-mom is way more interesting now
Wait he just mentioned that
I can’t tell if this is satire or not 😭😭
pluton the battleship lore intensifies, I agree with this train of thought a lot, and have come to similar conclusions
also regarding the timing of all the ancient weapons, being named after planets, and after witnessing how the elders move, I strongly believe "planetary alignment" exists in one piece and it's more or less fate, that the void century was destined to happen again and the bubble was always gonna burst even Imu probably is aware it was a matter of time for "the planets and the stars to align".
this probably has to due to the very nature of the one piece and what it must mean to/for the world
- nika is key
- ancient weapons all being active in the same time is key
- this is why roger was too early as he stated, not to mention wanting to live in the same time as joyboy and why he was stated to be waiting there by whitebeard who said BB wasn't the man he was waiting for. This connects to the narrative aspect and thematic straw hat as a herald of the joyboy era.
> to add to this also why rayleigh stated luffy might get a different answer; BOTH of them know - whitebeard was told later a bit and knows too, which is why I strongly think he became more focused on building a family, understanding why his captain rocks made the moves he did but also understanding his own dreams more - to have a crew of "family". It's no coincidence he says things like we are all children of the sea and saw a bigger picture I think, regarding blackbeard's betrayal, and why he didn't fear the new era as he never intended to challenge them. And of course cause he's motha fookn whitebeard brotha lmao.
P.s. just to add I think the one anomaly actually in the last 800 years other than nika-joyboy, is blackbeard at the moment, and we can throw Imu in as an anomaly too of course though it's background noise atm due to imu became the standard [from the shadows] for now until of course with nika after effectively finally finding the perfect reincarnation of freedom he embodies the dream of in luffy
9:42 Doflamingo lost his Mom when he was 8 years old. He killed his Dad when he was 10.
One thing that could make the Teach Crocodile parallel work is if BB simply Carrie’s his will while Croc is the daughter. Ace was Rogers son but Luffy is the one carrying his will. Ace, Rogers son, fought the guy carrying Xebek’s will and lost, while Luffy(rogers will) fought Croc(Rocks son/daughter for the full inversion) and won.
Ace escaped execution but still died, while croc escaped impel down only to do what ace was slated to do and be the WG’s greatest problem.
I definitely think that’s true, but it’s still curious where BB came from or how he got influenced by rocks at all - he’s 40 years old so was only 2 at god valley. Not old enough to be “shaped” by rocks in any way, so I’m curious how they connect
Except family members want nothing to do with what their parents are doing in any way. As has long been established.
This is a perfect example of the spiral theory. Everything is mirrored, but skewed before perceived.
@@DaksSake technically it's the same with Luffy who never had any interactions with roger yet he's mirroring him in every way like in ep 1015.
So glad I discovered this vid, there are so many things i didn't notice before! I want to add something that might increase the credibility of this theory.
Kaido and Blackbeard have connections with Rocks. Kaido being his former crew's apprentice and Blackbeard by naming his ship "Sabre of Xebec". Both of their goals are about creating a powerful nation of pirates where the strongest pirates rule, so strong that they are able to rival World Government. However, that goal is not very unique in the One Piece world. The first ever pirate to be shown to have this goal isn't even them-it's Crocodile with his Operation Utopia.
I'd argue that Crocodile and Alabasta's true parallel isn't Doflamingo and Dressrosa, it's Kaido and Wano. Kaido is actually the one who's the successful version of Crocodile (though Kaido's plans didn't really succeed either, did they?). I still think Croc and Doflamingo are similar, but only in their personalities. The events of Dressrosa don't accurately mirror Alabasta that much (people like to equate them most just because Crocodile and Doflamingo were Shichibukai)
Crocodile and Kaido:
- When they first arrived in those countries, they didn't take over them right away. They spent more than 10 years for their plans. And the plan includes humiliating each country's supposed ruler for years (Cobra with the Dance Powder incident and the whole civil war; Oden with dancing like a looney for years)
- Alabasta and Wano are very closely tied to the Void century. Dressrosa does too, but it doesn't stick out that much. For Alabasta, we now know the Nefertaris are D clan. Wano people created the poneglyphs and shut themselves out to protect Pluton. They are also most probably allies of Joyboy.
- They aren't natives to the countries they want to take over, unlike Doflamingo who came from Donquixote, the first rulers of Dressrosa
- Crocodile and Kaido most likely chose their countries for the ancient weapon they were told those countries hold, and it's the same ancient weapon: Pluton
- Vivi and Momonosuke both went away from their island to find ways to bring down the evil pirates. Then, they encounter the Straw Hats along the way. They went on an adventure with them for some time until they actually return to their home countries to finally go after the big bad evil pirates. (Also, the scene where Kaido holds a trembling Momonosuke from a high place to threaten him? Crocodile did it first with Vivi.)
- Luffy needed to fight the main villains at least three times before coming out winning (in at least one of them for each villain, he really, really was nearing death before something saved him).
- I probably didn't remember this correctly but i think so far there's only two people Luffy has said "I will surpass you" to: Crocodile and Kaido (and Big Mom who's beside Kaido). And they really are the two "big ceilings" Luffy had to break, Crocodile being his first Shichibukai and Kaido his first Yonko. In return, i think both Crocodile and Kaido has grudging respect for Luffy.
- There's a panel of Kaido that you included in the video, the one where he said "But pirates will betray you. When they know you'll lose, they will abandon you and sail away". This exact point was actually first brought up by Crocodile all the way back in Alabasta, and the words he used is very similar to Kaido's. It feels like this is something they were taught, and most likely by the same person.
Something that also tickles my mind a lot is Crocodile and Blackbeard's exchange in Impel Down. It's just weird to my eyes. Maybe it's because Crocodile who is notorious for being so prideful to a fault, doesn't react negatively seeing the nobody from Whitebeard's ship that replaced his position in the Shichibukai ranks. It probably means nothing, and I'm just weird. But, with Blackbeard being said to be the inheritor of Xebec's will, isn't it funny that it can mean he has 'replaced' Crocodile's position twice? The blood son not inheriting the father's will has been done in One Piece. And Crocodile did have a moment of with Ace, saving his 'compatriot' in the same boat.
Tl;dr Kaido and Blackbeard are connected to Rocks. Crocodile has similarities to both of them. The red string that connects the three of them might be Rocks D. Xebec
p.s I'm sorry this is so messy, just have to get these out of my mind. I think there are more points i can note but i only remember these right now
Cant deny this theory is one of the best i have seen in years absolutely stacked with information
I’ve had a theory of Whitebeard being the traitor for a long time, and people hate it claiming it’s not his character. But I tell them this. Whitebeard is the closest to a “ good guy” out of the Rocks pirates we knew of for the most part ( Gloriosa as well). If he saw extreme wrongdoing, and if we have been told Rocks wasn’t REALLY a crew with bonds, it is also then possible a generally good person would then “ betray” them -- but not his own principles of conduct. Judging by the legend of GV, generally speaking WB hasn’t been brought up as much. It is possible in the finale -- wB already betrayed them and changed sides -- but Kaido had already left as they no longer had the forces to succeed.
Your point about Luffy, Ace and Crocodile all being present at Alabasta actually supports an Idea I've been thinking about: Dragon being at God Valley. If Alabasta is meant to parallel God Valley in a way then it would make sense if the fathers of those three characters were all present. Long story short, I think whatever Dragon saw at God Valley is what radicalized him against the World Government.
We literally see what radicalised Dragon. It was Ohara.
@mrbubbles6468 That's what led him to fight the WG. However, he clearly held negative feelings toward the WG before Ohara was destroyed. What I'm saying is, I think that whatever happened on God Valley is what gave Dragon that first push to begin questioning their authority.
@@zmp323 it was multiple events;
Pre-Ohara: leaving the marines (if he had been with them before), seeing flaws in the government
Ohara: forming the freedom fighters
The fire on his home island/Sabo being a child with no hope to freedom: turning the freedom fighters into the revolutionary army and saving the poor
Well...well
I don’t think croc was a girl, but it does make a lot of sense for Ivankoff to know he is Roc’s son. He does seem to know a lot about history.
at first I was like "but why would the world government authorize a clone/seraphim of the son of Rocks, when they hunted Ace down for being the son of Roger?". But the whole sex change thing would account for that.
FINALLY A CROCO THEORY THAT IS NOT CROCO-MOM!!! I would like to add on to the theory based on the Doflamingo parallel. I think Crocodile secret could be that he used to be a slave. That's the opposite of celestial dragon with Doffy. Another reason is that in OP, the one secret that no characters want to reveal and would rather die is being a slave (Boa, Fisher Tiger). I still think that Croco is biologically male, but since his androgynous look could be the reason he got enslaved. I also believe gun is a symbol of nobility (except for a few gun users among the pirates) because all celestial dragons have it with them (Doffy family, Charlos family, Gorosei, etc). Maybe Croco took the gun as a kid when he escaped. He doesn't use it anymore as an adult. The way he was lined up with little Boa and Kuma in the SBS also seems to suggest that he could also be a slave. This could also explain his connection with Ivankov/RA or even Xebec.
There's so many aspects about Croco that people sleep on. While he may not be the strongest villain, he is integral to the plot for sure since Oda is hiding so much about him even at this late in the game. HIs full name (as you mentioned) for example plus more.
He doesn't neccesarily need to have been a slave to be parallel to Doffy. He could be an orphan that got adapted into nobility at a young age which is why he's shown with good clothes and the gun. Think back Doffy was introduced as being poor but he came from the highest place possible. So I think they are opposite in the regard one came from nothing and got into wealth and power and the other had wealth and power and lost everything.
But still the possibility is there for both to be true.
@@oliviadonquixote That's possible too. Although I also had this theory but it was more for Blackbeard and not Crocodile. When I look at the SBS for warlords as kids, the way Oda grouped them together is interesting. I think the first row (Mihawk, Moria, and Jinbei) is those who have ambitions to be the strongest or best at something. Assuming 2nd row (Croco, Boa, Kuma) are all ex-slaves, 3rd row (BB and Doffy) seems hint at their living condition. BB might be an orphan living in poverty who now wants to build his own kingdom, whereas Doffy was exiled from his "kingdom" and became poor.
My main reason for Croco possibly being a slave is b/c of how a secret is treated in OP, specifically from Boa and Fisher Tiger. With God Valley being very relevant right now, and Kuma mostly likely being an ex-slave😬😬
But honestly, as long as his secret is significant to the plot and not the gender thing, I will be happy b/c he's one of my favorite characters.
I just realized, that would be a HUGE excuse as to why Crocodile never specked into haki. “Enough Haki undoes devil fruit abilities” if Crocoboy was a crocogirl and Rox was the parent, that much haki potential could make even a little Haki training undo Ivankov’s DF. Blowing the cover. 🧠 so crocodile could only spec into DF and had to defend/fight that way.
Edit: also if Crocoboy is fighting Sanji and becomes Crocogirl that would put sanji at a MAJOR disadvantage.
That's actually a good point
that would actually be the perfect excuse oda could use for why croc did not use haki against luffy in alabasta since haki wasnt a big idea for oda back then however tho, what about marineford and all those top fighters hitting croc with haki wouldnt he not have turned according to ur theory?
I dont think him using haki himself would revert ivankovs fruit changes, there really isnt any precedent. Haki lets you strike someones body through their devil fruit powers, it doesnt completely negate them. if it did Luffys Gear 3 wouldnt work. Also Crocs gender didnt revert while he had seastone shackles on in prison, which DOES negate powers so i certainly dont think him using haki would do it
While I like the idea, I don't think that's the case. Crocodile wore sea stone cuffs during his entire stay in Impel Down. If that doesn't revert the effect, then haki probably doesn't either.
it's definitely foreshadowed with how Law got turned into a woman with Doc Q's ability
About the beginning “because Garp presumably had Dragon” I like the theory that Garp isn’t actually Dragons father… but Luffy mom’s father.
I didn’t particularly believe it until someone pointed out that Garp never once referred to Dragon as his son… not even in a disappointed sort of way.
Garp has referred to Dragon in chapter 432 as his son though
LOVE the OSRS reference haha! You get my like every time your notification hits my phone before I even hear a word of the vid
This is def my favorite crocodile theory so far, you outdid yourself again Dak!
My favorite theory for a Crocodile name is something based off Mary Reed the real life female pirate. She is one of the only big name pirates that Oda hasn’t yet named a character after and she was known for cross dressing and masquerading as a man. It’s even thought that she might have been a transgender pirate by some historians.
Funny thing there was a Queen-Pharaoh called "Sobekneferu". Like, Sobek the Crocodile God and Neferu which sounds pretty close to Nefertari, which was another Queen I think Ramses II spouse or something.
Rocks D. Croc is a pretty catchy name
This theory is fucking great, there's a few more points I thought of to go along with it.
Firstly, BaROCK Works.
Secondly, the trust issues Croc has could be related to Rocks abandoning him at the age of eight to then never come back. Additionally it could be influenced by Dufeld if that was his father figure, as he's a loan shark which exploit people's trust. And there's the connection between loan SHARK Dufeld and CROCODILE, both very similar animals, sharks being for the sea and crocodiles being for smaller bodies of water, just like how Croc's sand is just smaller Rocks. So like, both his animal and his power represent smaller versions of both his father figures.
The smoke on Rocks' jolly roger could be because Rocks smoked, like Crocodile.
Crocodile has a bunch of connections to the Revolutionary Army. The Baroque Works flag looks very similar to the RA's. The first okama in the series was on Crocodile's crew, and the RA is heavily tied to the okamas, currently setting up their base at Peach Island. He tried to overtake Alabasta by literally inciting a revolution among the people to overthrow the King which is the RA's strategy, the connection to Ivankov, and his desire for the Ancient Weapons possibly being inspired by the RA's desire to destroy the WG, and the Ancient Weapons are the main thing the WG worries about for things that could destroy them. And of course Crocomom. Imo he was a revolutionary that was excommunicated, foreshadowed by Dragon taking great offence to the idea of someone trying to kill Cobra, and Crocodile actually trying to do just that, as well as the parallel with Dragon's fruit being a bringer of rain and Crocodile being allergic to the rain. Point is, Dragon is basically the closest thing to the modern day Rocks, so it makes sense why Croc would initially try to join him.
Rocks trying to take down, and ultimately dying to, the Celestial Dragons would recontextualise a lot of stuff with Crocodile. His unexplained history/dislike of Doflamingo, a Celestial Dragon. His dislike of Buggy, in 1058 threatening to sell him into slavery which hits different if Buggy was a CD from God Valley like Shanks, and Rocks died trying to free their slaves. He's introduced killing a white lily which you can see in Imu's garden of flowers. It also recontextualises him specifically targeting the Nefertaris and their kingdom. There's still a lot to suggest that Imu is a Nefertari which I won't get into here, Nerona Imu could either be a false name or her original name before she married into the Nefertaris.
Rocks was said to be a big breaker of taboos - and the main thing the World Government considers taboo is researching the Void Century, further foreshadowed by Blackbeard, who still has a lot of evidence for being Rocks' son, also having an interest in archaeology. And Crocodile is similarly interested in the ancient history, going after Pluton, trying to find Alabasta's poneglyph.
If Rocks' crew betrayed him at God Valley, that would explain why he became a Warlord. The Warlords were created to oppose the Emperors, and the three confirmed Emperors at the time Crocodile became a Warlord (16 years ago) were all ex-Rocks crewmates.
Finally if Crocomom IS true, then that opens a whole can of worms. It would parallel Luffy's other D brother who was the son of two Ds. It means Blackbeard is Luffy's uncle. If Rocks was either a Lunarian or Fishman, which there's evidence for both, then Luffy, and Crocodile and Blackbeard would have that in their DNA, maybe this could explain Luffy's Red Roc - the Lunarian fire ability Red ROC literally coming from ROCKS. Also there's a bunch to suggest that Rocks died by drowning and that would further Crocodile's aversion to water and why that fruit chose him. Man I'm gonna stop now it's getting too crazy😅
Bruh those were some fire points honestly. Croc said "I never trusted anyone to begin with" when he sliced Robin after she lied about the poneglyph, so it could hint there's a lot of betrayal in his backstory. Also about Du Feld, he could be like Crocodile's "Trebol" if that makes sense. influencing him, giving him his fruit, etc.
This theory sounds the most plausible, a lot of one piece theories I've been hearing recently have just been hitting different because it just feels more realistic of a ending for one piece with how it's moving right now and knowing how close we truly are to the end add to that I feel
Being the son of "The worst pirate ever" that definitely put him on the top of the chopping block with the world government.
That's a worse secret than him being trans
Something else I noticed is that in Film Z all of the flashback to the warlords as children, Crocodile is the only one not animated
My theory is that Whitebeard was Figarland Garling's slave (hence why Shanks's face reminds him of his scars). Whitebeard only joined Rocks because Rocks freed him. But then Whitebeard betrayed Rocks.
maybe wb fought garling at the god valley and got the scar from him
That would also create another parallel to blackbeard, who betrayed whitebeard for his ideals
Dang. Whitebeard felt guilty about his “father” getting betrayed, he went into full stepdad mode
I think it makes more sense that rocks was dragon and comes across more evil than he was because he’s goal was still to destroy the world government but his strategy was to use the strongest possible people alive and he couldn’t control them. It would also make sense why dragons bounty is going to be the highest and why sen goku was afraid of the crew having a chance of getting back together
one of my fav theories for the *past couple years* (even wrote about it on tumblr a few months ago, even including Dufeld taking in Croc, but nobody reads tumblr posts)..
but like, if you think Dragon is Xebec's Clone.... Just think about Logue Town. Croc seeing some dude walking around with his DEAD father's face.
Probably it is the best theory on TH-cam till this date .
Your sense of knowledge is amazing and narration is very good , it kept us listening longer and longer without any bordem...
Don't watch many theory vids huh?
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On a monday morning no less. Thanks bro good shit
Baroque Works having the Devil Fruit weapon Lassoo could explain Croc having links with Du Field as he did bankroll Dr. Vegapunk
This was the best theory I ever heard about Rocks and Crocs. It makes so much sense now, I hope it turns out to be true.
Oh I love this theory for Crocodile and it’s absolutely my head cannon now.
Also! Compelling evidence for his relationship to Xebec is the Egyptian crocodile god of the Nile Sobek sounds a lot like Xebec is also sometimes spelled Sebek which is even CLOSER XD
And I love going down the rabbit hole all of THAT can potentially mean.
New Dak drop right after the Reverie. New chapter this week. We are eating too good!!!!
and only a few weeks till Gear 5 in the anime! We have the whole buffet to eat!
@@DaksSake The fandom is gonna be eating like post-fight Luffy!
Xebec is the name of a typa ship called Sunbeki. Which were used by Algerian pirates, most famously known as Captain Barbaros Hajreddin, who proceed to become Fleet Admiral for Ottomans. Barbaros means Red Beard so I'm clinging to that and still side with Shanks being Xebec's son. That also fills under what Roger said to Garp very well. ''A newborn child bears no sin''
Another parallel is that Ace was meant to be the successor to Roger but ultimately it will be Luffy. Maybe the same could be said with Rocks Crocodile and the true successor being Blackbeard
I can't wait to see how much Crocodile has grown. Its gonna lit to see him in action again
I’m so glad you mention that OSRS boss. Immediately caught my eye as soon as ToA was released
So basically Luffy is Garp's Grandson, Dragon's Son, Brother Of Sabo And Ace which is the son of Roger. And if the croco-mom theory is correct, Luffy is also a grandson of Rocks.
I mean Luffy is just op
Love to you and queenflowers great Theory!!
ivan is fr the nosy neighbor that is up in everyone's business
Iva was the one to ask dragon why he’s always looking east too. Who even notices that?
@@DaksSake LOL that's right😭😭😭
Also feel like it's an important detail that in a cover story we were shown Crocodile's dream is to be Gol D. Roger or like him at the very least
Well well, and here we are KNOWING Iva was on god valley... So yes, I LOVE so much about this. One thing though you left out in my opinion, is Crocs behavior in Marineford. Because we do not get to see what exactly causes his change of mind. There are two things happening there. Whitebeard being stabbed and Luffy being declared Dragons son. So if we asume Croc being in god valley what do the rebels mean to him? Does he have any obligation or affiliation? (Croco-Mom-Theory left aside!)
I mention this, because that character actually does a lot more than stop attacking Whitebeard or just help a little.
He goes up against Doffy (Someone with the D against a Tenryubito??).
And he even saves Luffy from Sakazuki with the words "If you want to protect something do it right. Don't let them have their way."
Basically he is allying himself with Luffy. He is risking his life for him after Whitebeard and Ace are already dead. So if he truly is Rocks child... we have Rocks child, trying to save Rogers son and saving Dragons child and Garps grandsons life, resisting the World Government.
If that is not will of D what is?
I could see crocodile being a part of the D clan considering how much he is against the world goverment and the celestial dragons and is one of the few pirates who directly opposes them like luffy and blackbeard. We see him do this in marineford turning against the marines because he hates them more than whitebeard as well as creating an organization that directly opposes them in the form of the cross guild. This would even tie back to his right hand being nico robin at the time of alabasta who we also know was hunted down in the same way.
He's CROCO D ILE
9:49 first step to surviving one piece: have a canon event at 8. Lose your mom around or before then as well. And then maybe get beat up by someone 40 years older than you and about 16x your height
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Considering Du Feld appears to be based on US hotel magnate Sheldon Adelson and we saw Mr. 3 and Ms. Goldenweek stayed on Holiday Island I believe that this island could be based on the Palazzo and the Venetian Hotel casino restort in Las Vegas and the Venetian Macao in the island of Macau so Du Feld owns Holiday Island and Croc used his family connections to give his agents a sweet holiday destination to have when off duty. Also this could explain why Croc chose the Rainbase casino as his base in Alabasta to emulate his adoptive dads buisness.
I wouldn't mind having some more tie ins with the underground bosses. Sounds not too far-stretched.
The thing that stood out to me about crocodile was always his hook. The eyepatch, the hook and a peg leg. Although we haven’t really seen one with an peg leg, oda said all those traits are for people with significants. So why Crocodile?
Yea it means they are real oda said if an eye patch character appears on one piece usually means the show is coming to an end and maybe just maybe crocodile might be one
zeff has a peg leg
Definitely a good theory, r we need crocodile to make more moves
one piece is already so insane, but imagine if everything was packed into 200 chapeters
One piece is in a milion pieces right mow with all the "this theory breaks one piece" videos out there
Since we're just theorizing/speculating, here's my 2 cents: What if the stuff mentioned in the video is the reason why Crocodile refused to work with Doflamingo(someone related to Rocks would never work with a CD)
im sure everyone’s gotta common vibe for what the op really is but small plot theories like these, make this arguably #1 story ever written 💯
stay strong and well oda sensei! The feast is upon us🔥🌊
Wow. On one side,I am sort of convinced and excited-
Crocodile is my favorite One Piece villian and maybe favorite character.
It just a bit difficult to give up on my own headcannon.
(The TLDR, Crocodile being an extremist Revulionary, especialy with him using the word "Utopia" for his stuff.)
There is much more to it, but your theory is cooler and have more evidencd
This is the best crocodile theory in a while as theres more organic ties or parallels with croc and xebec than there are with shanks or buggy, theres also another possible connection to rocks and crocodile with Hachinosu being based on Skull Rock from Peter Pan which connects to captain hook and crocodile. If i had to guess crocodiles real name it be Tick Tock Baker, tick tock is the name of the crocodile in peter pan and baker is the last name of the english voice actor who voiced him
If Croco-Mum is a thing, this means Luffys Grandparents would be Monkey D. Garp and Rocks D. Xebec.
His parents Monkey D. Dragon and Rocks D. Allie.
This means, Luffy is the combination of the Marine Hero, Rocks and Dragon, making him the culmination of the worst Nightmares for the world government, now with his awakened fruit too.
And he has, so it seems, a clear D-Line which never got washed out, because both parents and grandpas are of D.
The grandmothers remain, but never play a role in One Piece, so...
it definitely plays into the theme about how family is the people you choose because your birth family aren't always good people. in Luffy's case one side of his family is good and the other evil; (parental side is good/maternal side evil) if croco mom ever comes into play the theme of Luffy Origins story would be kind of a cool reveal
Crocomon makes no sense Crocodile was already a man before he could had Luffy
Holy shit man EVERYTHING MATCHES WTF like every one of your theory videos, I feel spoiled, well played man as always
Oda, just showed us that Ivankov was precent during god valey.
I was thinking of OSRS while you explained in the beginning, didn't expect you to mention it 😂
You are always on fire, Dak! Thank you for bringing joy and one piece theories
It would also fit the theme that Sir Crocodile had no anger against Ruffy in Impel Down.
In the Rocks pirate gang only the strength counted, since Ruffy won he accepted his defeat and "subordinated" himself.
Daks coming in clutch with bangers as always! I was so sick and of the overused, tired Croc-was-a-woman theory. Thanks for adding a layer to that while coming up with a new fresh theory on it!
Great vid! Was nice seeing the manga panel of the Marine war and noting that crocodile shifts sides after the white beard speech.
(Memory might be wrong) but in the anime, it’s when it’s declared that luffy is the son of dragon that he decide to shift sides.
I think the original manga is more raw and subtle in showing the new xebec link revealed, but the anime changing it to be more ‘luffy’ orientated I think stronger supports the croco mummy theory and the connection between Crocodile and Dragon
I love it when my favorite character gets attention
Croc stocks are way up
This makes SO much sense, especially after Chapter 1096(SPOILERS), where Ivankov was there at the God Valley Incident. Since we don't know/see exactly when Kuma left the Valley after talking to Saturn, they could've seen Croc before leaving.
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Yo!! Love this theory! I’ve been screaming about a sobek reference for awhile. Crocodile tears, or rather, when the desert rains. Sobek the mythological deity of rivers, crocodiles, is a crocodile man who’s tears are said to have created the Nile and all other rivers, but beware, cause it’s just to feed his gaping maw. I hope there is some sort of crocodile zoan(hopefully mythical sobek(Xebec)) that will be used in story, or some sort of enemy. The bananagator has been sitting in my mind for so long.
Crocodile's casino was called Rain Dinners. And it sat on top of a lake. Sobek/water-connection certainly there.
the Crocodile Rock theory if you will
im completely sold, bravo
Also, if Whitebeard betrayed Rocks in God Valley, it makes it another connection to Alabasta. Who meets Luffy at the end and sacrifices himself for him? A former rival and a hero not once, but twice, Bon Kurei.
Killer point!!! and Mr 2 really honed in on the idea of “it’s because we are friends”, and maybe not being friends is what caused problems with the Rocks crew. It could all connect
Love the theory when it comes to be I will remember where I heard this first
Also note that sand comes from rocks breaking down
13:30 “if you want answers to the end game, you need to look at the early game” is so facts, we all say oda is the best foreshadower but forget he was suppose to end the series back in 07 😂😂😂 just the other day i watched skypia and was amazed on how much i missed. back in the day i was just watching it to for fun, now i actually pay attention to every detail because you can miss something so subtle its crazy.
The X on Caribou's shirt is a Roman Numeral 10. All of the numbered members of Baroque works incorporate the number into their design. Look at Mr. 3's hair. In Caribou's case he uses X's in his designs a lot.
Croco D. Island. 🥸
I really like the Idea of crocodile being Rocks Son. It makes sense to me completely.
Great video.
Great stuff once again.
This is a great theory. I'm almost more excited to learn about God Valley than the Ancient Kingdom. Oda's gonna have to go hard on the flashbacks during the final saga. I mean the last flashback we've had was Oden, so the bar is very high.
cant wait for crocodile to reveal his new organisation: the real baroque works
"Alabasta would have been the final Arc, if One Piece wasn't that successful and Oda hat way less time than 25y+" I heard a rumor like that many years ago, and it would fit pretty well.
great video. and honestly a bit shocked that you play OSRS as well. awesome.
OSRS is the best lol! That was my UIM killing Zebak in that clip. 2047 total :)
@@DaksSake 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Robin being associated with a white Lilly has had me cooking as well with latest chapters I hadn’t even thought about that panel with crocco boy!
Ivankov is such an in universe history nerd I love it. Reminds me of really passionate history teachers I’ve had in the past the way they namedrop.
Torn between this theory and the classic Shanks being his son especially the way Morj put it in his vid. Need them to both somehow be true but Croc theory has a serious leg up.
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Would make sense as to why Ivankov calls him 'Croco-boy'. Maybe his name is actually Croco D. Xebec' and then changed it to Crocodile.
Rocks was Xebec's surname ya fool, Crocodile's real name by that logic is actually Rocks D. Croco
@@thekeyboardguy3667 ....You're calling me a 'fool' for guessing a possible name? When this is a video is all about the possibility of Xebec being Crodile's dad? Besides, we all know names don't mean crap. Ace was Roger's son and he wasn't called 'Gol D Ace'.
@@EvilGeniusRANIKyea he's abit harsh but he's right, in Japanese it's the first name that is the family name, Ace took Portgas D. from his mother Portgas D. Rouge, she actually named her Gol D. Ace, so Crocodile would be Rocks D. Croc
One more thing which makes the "Crocodile is Rocks daugter" Theory more plausible:
With Doc Q's Devil Fruit Oda introduced a mechanic to turn people temporarily into the other gender. This could be used to reveal Crocodiles true indentiy in the final war/battle royal where a lot of people will be present to identify him/her as the daughter of Xebec and lead to a very nice plot twist.
Somethihf to add to your addition:
Maybe that's why we don't really see croc use haki, cause it will cancel the gender change just like Law, since it's a devil fruit ability. So he's been constraining himself from using any haki.
@@TertiaryTrash Please no. That would make Croc a completely useless Fighter in the New World. Haki is shown to beat Logia users without Haki every single time. Why would Mihawk team on equal terms with Crocodile if he was a weak Logia with no Haki like freaking Caribou? I want Croc to be a strong threat otherwise Cross-Guild is basically just Mihawk but rebranded...
Ok daks i see you cooking. Solid theory
Good video. One thing wrong: Oda thought it would be 5 years before he decided to add the warlords, when the idea wqs just to defeat the yonko
Elton John’s attorneys on this 😂… crocodile Rocks