I watched the video Eric did on the combo solution truck enclosure for the eights. Great presenter and enjoyable. I quoted a customer the solution for their Gladiator the same day. Good work Alpine and Eric.
Never used any of Alpines subwoofers but have run a alpine head unit since first one I bought back in mid 90s....I tend to keep an older vehicle to tinker with ....drive a 1998 s10 extended cab ....and when I started the system build last year took the old alpine cd player out and replaced it with the newest model single din (at the time) with cd Bluetooth multi media etc.....and as always works flawlessly and most of all the clarity especially at higher volumes...I don't use any of the head unit to power speakers ...use amplifiers for that but the pre amps are in my opinion some of the best on the market ....good clear dependable signal.....and the only reason I don't use their subs is because I am an old school bass head at heart ...but I am sure I would be pleased if I did ....solid company
The pair of Alpine Type R 12" I bought in 1998 are still putting out the bass. I did have to re-glue the buytl rubber surrounds in 2014. I used shoe goo as adhesive. I went through many subs, until I bought the pair of type R. My Alpine head unit, the Alpine CDA-7995 still works great too. Alpine is the best or they were 20 years ago.
Alpine desperately needs to step it up with the subs and amps. The overly expensive SQ thing is cool and all. But, you guys need to get popular with the high power crowd. You should definitely be trying to compete against Kicker and the new Solo X sub as well.
The type X is a nice sub as well as the R, if you use them correctly they can be impressive… I’ve been using Type R from the MRV 1507 days and I promise you that you can move wind when you put them together… the amp is just to hungry… don’t sleep on alpine they was once neck and neck with JL audio
Alpine type r is a great sub.. I had a blowthru in my single cab silverado with 4 alpine type r 12s.... I took it too a local bass competition and got a 146 dB running on 2 ct sounds 2k amps I was impressing everyone with "4k watts" ct sounds amps at 15v push almost 3k watts each and the sound quality of the type r subs.... geez there musical subs they play hard, my set up was set too 32hz... sold the truck because I needed a crew cab for my kids and there seats but I still have 2 8inch subs in a custom ported box under the seat... people think I got 12s it hits that hard! They think I don't have a back seat but it's all under the seat!
Ive had 3 type r subs. All dual 4 ohm. One 12 was stolen. And a grand worth of glass busted out to get it outta the car. Replaced with the same model. Since then ive used it in 4 diff vehicles. Actually got it to fit in a 99 single cab f150. This and the previous one that got stolen are the older 10+ year old version with the grey dustcap. The 12 is still goin strong today and is in daily use. The other one i bought is the 8 inch in the newer black dust cap design in a preloaded ported enclosure. Pissed me off as i tuned it right and had no distortion. After less than a month of impressive clear deep bass there was a flapping sound when i used it. The glue holding the dust cap onto the surround separated. And from the looks of it, it wasnt glued down all the way around. Theres big gaps all every inch or so. Tried to get it warrantied and was told i would have to pay for rma and repairs as "theres no way it would separate there unless i had the gain turned too high. I have an even matched rms wattage amp from alpine and the gain was barely at 1/4. Always pushed people to get alpine cuz once you have a type r nothin else ever sounds as deep and clear. Nothing. And ive had jl w series and still like the type r better. Woulda been nice tho if they had stood by their product considering the 8 inch obviously made it past quality control with inadequate glue from the dust cap to the surround. So now it just sits on a shelf waiting for me to do somethin with it.
@@IceColdTruth i have guns. At the time i also had a german shepard that barked anytime someone walked silently down the sidewalk out front. Our bedroom window was directly above my car and she didnt make a sound that night for some reason. Even with the window open all night. So i woke up to glass peeled out of the frame still in one piece as the tint held it together and 2 doors wide open. Not a peep from the dog. If i knew they were doin it they would have got a big surprise and not had the ability to ever steal from anyone again.
I have the previous halo r series 12…. The one that comes preloaded in the Alpine box… how does the new halo r2 12 compare? Would it be much of an upgrade?
In terms of specs they are pretty similar to the previous models but we did make some upgrades in the design that allow for more cone movement and deeper bass output so there will be some performance gains in the R2 versions.
I remember having a pair of type R 6x9s in the back of a 2000 Mitsubishi Galant in the early 2000s and I swear those speakers alone sounded like I had a small sub. Since then I've always liked type R speakers.
You can. A home stereo with RCA outs can connect to a sub amp, the best one is the Nobsound G2 Pro for less than $100. Buy a roll of 12 guage speaker wire, you’ll just need a pair of wire strippers for the job. Buy Irwin self adjusting wire strippers, it’s like $20.
Ever plan a come back for the alpine 15 inch? Im definitely an alpine fan. Still running pdx amps in my wifes car and pdx 4 channels in my spl vehicle. Ive thought no one ever does an spl setup with alpine. Maybe some day I'll do 8 12s in a wall or something just cuz.
I have a pair of these in 12's from the previous swr verion of r series subs . Power range says 300w-1000w rms . What does this mean ? Im planning on running both subs from 800w rms @2 ohm . The amp is rockford r1200 1d , 1200w@1ohm . I want damping control so im willing to give up 400w and run them at 800w@2ohm . Will this be enough power , 400w rms per sub @2 ohm ??
300-700 watts. It being a 4ohm sub, make sure you get an amp that's rated to push 700w @ 4 ohms. Most amps like class d mono amps rated power is at 1ohm. 1500 watts @ 1 ohm 1000 watts @ 2 ohm 750 watts @ 4 ohm. Hope this helps.
How do the R2s compare to the discontinued X series? When will the HDZ-110 Status line subwoofer be released? I just credited back after a pre-order from April.
I had 2 of the new type R in my vehicle for a year, I just got 2 of the latest type X subs, I’m excited to get them installed and see how they compare.
What r series sub or subs can i run with the alpine r-a90s amp im currently running it with the r series 2 way coax speakers front and back and would love to get the rite r series sub or subs for it
Can yall please evenly distribute the push terminals so they dont load down 1 side of the spider packs and also add a 3rd magnet and 15s and 18s. Please ... please.... maybe? 😆👍👍
I love the type S and R but I had to move on to a company that makes more powerful subwoofers. Unless I wanted to put 6 type R's in my car 😂. I will say that I still have a pair of type S 12's that I put 800 watts a piece to for about 5 years daily and they're still as good as they were when I first bought them. But now they're sitting in boxes because I upgraded to 3000 rms subs.
What you don't seem to have is a new shallow Type-R... You discontinued the last shallow mount without having new ones to replace it. When are new shallow-mounts expected to debut? Something to compete with the JL Audio shallows that have 600W RMS, 15mm Xmax, and only a 3" mounting depth. That's what you really need to get bringing out.
No they’re not in demand at all. Mini Subs like 6.5’s and 8’s are in demand as they play lower and hit harder than a shallow sub in a truck. My backlog for truck installs is enough to keep me busy til October. Every single one wants multiple hard hitting 6’s or 8’s. I’ve been taking these prefab shallow sub setups out of most of them because the customer wasn’t happy and came to me for something better.
@@jordancastro5700 Last I saw via Crutchfield just a few months ago and they said discontinued.... But I checked just now and NOW they show new models up, so I stand corrected. Thanks. 20mm of Xmax from a shallow, that's crazy and I'm here for that!
Alpine discontinued their 15in type r subs. That's a deal breaker for me. As you can still go sq in larger subwoofers. Do you realize how fast Alpine would sell out if they made an 18in?
Nope! Listening volume had nothing do with it. Their amp threw constant 43 VDC output out of the speaker terminal and there was no adjustment. You had to know of the failure to be able to shut the radio off in time. Lots of these amps caused sub failures and Alpine did nothing to fix it.
#AlpineMobileMediaSolutions has Lost a lot of their customer base because they just don't know their customers. I don't know any people who own Alpine Head Units who use their Speakers or Amps for that matter. Alpine really messed up with the introduction of those Cheap looking RGB Lighting Single DIN's and now the Halo Line of Android Style Touch Screen Audio. Like I said, Alpine doesn't know their Customer Base. Not sure what happened to this company, did they sell it to someone else? Did that Fukashima Nuclear Power Plant melt down their brains? I found Alpine in the Late 80's and owned units like the 7374, up to the INA-W900 with IMPRINT Module (Best Purchase I ever Made) Now I want a INA-910 (4V Preouts) with the PXA-H800 and RUX-C800 connected to some other brand of Amp and of course JL Subs, and I'm leaning towards Focal Mids, and probably matching tweeters. Thanks for coming out Alpine. Good Luck.
A few years ago I bought two alpine SWR 12D2 subs brand new delivered to my door for $300 even ! Today I cant get one delivered for $400 now that they charge tax ! Needless to say I don't buy alpine subwoofers anymore.
If alpine wants to make any money they need a high bl, low fs, high excursion, 6th order compatible sub. Minimum of 2500 rms with a minimum 3 inch 8 layer coil. Keep the qts under .36 and youll start seeing them sold by the thousands. Just look at vids from sound shows and research your competition for crying out loud. Kicked slightly understood this and gave us a new solo. Its severely overhyped, but at least they tried i guess. But i guess they still think anything under 40hz is just wasted information. Alpine and kicker are the Bidens of the audio world. They still think its 1980 baby!
Guys stop buying this crap of a subwoofer ive bought one last year and its crap trust me there are better options on ebay and cheaper for example ground zero ,db audio ,vibe etc much more powerful and les expensive or same price
Just like apple same crap with a different badge on it. Built a 4th order for 4 12s in a 74 impalla that ported through the rear deck. Guy had type r already so i built specifically for them. Bet him i could put cheaper subs in it and out perform the r's no problem. Put some entry level subs from a well known company with the same rms and destroyed the r's. Sounded better too btw. Alpine is just a circuit city revival piece. And just so people know, "skar" is just hand-me-down sundown. Its just sundowns models from a few years ago that they deamed not worthy anymore. Hence "skarbage"😂😂😂
I used to love Alpine type R subs. Then i got Rockford fosgate P2 12s. Alpine sounds like distorted garbage compared to my P2s. They aren't any where near as loud, deep,or accurate either
I'll care about Alpine subs again if and only if they bring back the type r 15. My first real systrm in my 20s had a type r 12. Still have it to this day. But i have a big boy car now. And i have room for a big boy sub. Guess ill just stick with my XR-15 until alpine gets its head out of rich ppls arseholes.
This sun is embarrassing compared to what kicker has brought to the table especially the newest sun they dropped and that’s just a mainstream sub brand…
Or lower the price , from 600$ to 300$ pre load box. One or the other .. step the game up or lower the prices. Can’t have both expensive and not as good as other brands..
Nope. Every time you come out with a new one, it's been worst than the first. The first type r with the half roll surround were the only ones any good. You have ruined the alpine name just like epsilon has done the ppi name.
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I wish they would bring back the type r 15 with the hammer surround. Those were the best damn subs ever.
For real I miss those
12’s are the new 15’s
@@IceColdTruth absolutely not there is a big difference!
@@doitrightthefirsttime8952 lmfao 8’s are the future!
@@IceColdTruth- For people who want to pay more $ to get the same output.
I watched the video Eric did on the combo solution truck enclosure for the eights. Great presenter and enjoyable. I quoted a customer the solution for their Gladiator the same day. Good work Alpine and Eric.
This was my purchase over Skar/CT/Power Acoustik. I want good hitting power but still clean Audio Quality.
Never used any of Alpines subwoofers but have run a alpine head unit since first one I bought back in mid 90s....I tend to keep an older vehicle to tinker with ....drive a 1998 s10 extended cab ....and when I started the system build last year took the old alpine cd player out and replaced it with the newest model single din (at the time) with cd Bluetooth multi media etc.....and as always works flawlessly and most of all the clarity especially at higher volumes...I don't use any of the head unit to power speakers ...use amplifiers for that but the pre amps are in my opinion some of the best on the market ....good clear dependable signal.....and the only reason I don't use their subs is because I am an old school bass head at heart ...but I am sure I would be pleased if I did ....solid company
Yeah subs are not for the bass heads ..it’s lower level
The pair of Alpine Type R 12" I bought in 1998 are still putting out the bass. I did have to re-glue the buytl rubber surrounds in 2014. I used shoe goo as adhesive. I went through many subs, until I bought the pair of type R. My Alpine head unit, the Alpine CDA-7995 still works great too. Alpine is the best or they were 20 years ago.
Alpine desperately needs to step it up with the subs and amps. The overly expensive SQ thing is cool and all. But, you guys need to get popular with the high power crowd. You should definitely be trying to compete against Kicker and the new Solo X sub as well.
Ditto x1000
Kicker products look like shit tbh.
The type X is a nice sub as well as the R, if you use them correctly they can be impressive… I’ve been using Type R from the MRV 1507 days and I promise you that you can move wind when you put them together… the amp is just to hungry… don’t sleep on alpine they was once neck and neck with JL audio
I dream of an Alpine type x 18in 😂
Alpine type r is a great sub.. I had a blowthru in my single cab silverado with 4 alpine type r 12s.... I took it too a local bass competition and got a 146 dB running on 2 ct sounds 2k amps I was impressing everyone with "4k watts" ct sounds amps at 15v push almost 3k watts each and the sound quality of the type r subs.... geez there musical subs they play hard, my set up was set too 32hz... sold the truck because I needed a crew cab for my kids and there seats but I still have 2 8inch subs in a custom ported box under the seat... people think I got 12s it hits that hard! They think I don't have a back seat but it's all under the seat!
These are out of my budget but I like the Alpine Bassline series. 89 bucks for a 12 inch sub isn't bad at all.
Money talks. Bullshit walks
Got my dual r2 12" and r2-a150m on the way. Looking forward to hearing them
Alpine is behind the curve
Ive had 3 type r subs. All dual 4 ohm. One 12 was stolen. And a grand worth of glass busted out to get it outta the car. Replaced with the same model. Since then ive used it in 4 diff vehicles. Actually got it to fit in a 99 single cab f150. This and the previous one that got stolen are the older 10+ year old version with the grey dustcap. The 12 is still goin strong today and is in daily use. The other one i bought is the 8 inch in the newer black dust cap design in a preloaded ported enclosure. Pissed me off as i tuned it right and had no distortion. After less than a month of impressive clear deep bass there was a flapping sound when i used it. The glue holding the dust cap onto the surround separated. And from the looks of it, it wasnt glued down all the way around. Theres big gaps all every inch or so. Tried to get it warrantied and was told i would have to pay for rma and repairs as "theres no way it would separate there unless i had the gain turned too high. I have an even matched rms wattage amp from alpine and the gain was barely at 1/4. Always pushed people to get alpine cuz once you have a type r nothin else ever sounds as deep and clear. Nothing. And ive had jl w series and still like the type r better. Woulda been nice tho if they had stood by their product considering the 8 inch obviously made it past quality control with inadequate glue from the dust cap to the surround. So now it just sits on a shelf waiting for me to do somethin with it.
Sorry to hear that thugs busted your glass to steal your Type R. Buy a gun.
@@IceColdTruth i have guns. At the time i also had a german shepard that barked anytime someone walked silently down the sidewalk out front. Our bedroom window was directly above my car and she didnt make a sound that night for some reason. Even with the window open all night. So i woke up to glass peeled out of the frame still in one piece as the tint held it together and 2 doors wide open. Not a peep from the dog. If i knew they were doin it they would have got a big surprise and not had the ability to ever steal from anyone again.
@@1ftintheflames what goes around, comes around. These thievin fools will receive their punishment when they least expect it.
I have the previous halo r series 12…. The one that comes preloaded in the Alpine box… how does the new halo r2 12 compare? Would it be much of an upgrade?
In terms of specs they are pretty similar to the previous models but we did make some upgrades in the design that allow for more cone movement and deeper bass output so there will be some performance gains in the R2 versions.
I remember having a pair of type R 6x9s in the back of a 2000 Mitsubishi Galant in the early 2000s and I swear those speakers alone sounded like I had a small sub.
Since then I've always liked type R speakers.
The new Type R 6x9 components definitely have good low end for a mid ranger.
Alpine when are you going to make some protective cover for this subwoofer?
How about these in a home environment, e.g. in a stereo or ht setup?
You can. A home stereo with RCA outs can connect to a sub amp, the best one is the Nobsound G2 Pro for less than $100. Buy a roll of 12 guage speaker wire, you’ll just need a pair of wire strippers for the job. Buy Irwin self adjusting wire strippers, it’s like $20.
Ever plan a come back for the alpine 15 inch?
Im definitely an alpine fan. Still running pdx amps in my wifes car and pdx 4 channels in my spl vehicle.
Ive thought no one ever does an spl setup with alpine. Maybe some day I'll do 8 12s in a wall or something just cuz.
Is there a weight difference between the older alpine type r vs this new one?
I have a pair of these in 12's from the previous swr verion of r series subs . Power range says 300w-1000w rms .
What does this mean ?
Im planning on running both subs from 800w rms @2 ohm . The amp is rockford r1200 1d , 1200w@1ohm . I want damping control so im willing to give up 400w and run them at 800w@2ohm .
Will this be enough power , 400w rms per sub @2 ohm ??
I have an alpine type r 10 in dual 4 ohm. How many watts should i push to it? How small enclosure should i use?
300-700 watts.
It being a 4ohm sub, make sure you get an amp that's rated to push 700w @ 4 ohms.
Most amps like class d mono amps rated power is at 1ohm.
1500 watts @ 1 ohm
1000 watts @ 2 ohm
750 watts @ 4 ohm.
Hope this helps.
1.75 cu ft sealed enclosure or a 2 cu ft ported I believe will work. I'm not sure if that's fir the 10 or 12"
@@209Twinz209 alpine R-W10D4. At the moment all I am running to it is a little 600 watt rms kicker marine amp. Box I can fit is small.
How do the R2s compare to the discontinued X series? When will the HDZ-110 Status line subwoofer be released? I just credited back after a pre-order from April.
I had 2 of the new type R in my vehicle for a year, I just got 2 of the latest type X subs, I’m excited to get them installed and see how they compare.
Someone know the BL for the 12D2? I can't find it anywhere?
Are these better than Rockford t1 power?
What r series sub or subs can i run with the alpine r-a90s amp im currently running it with the r series 2 way coax speakers front and back and would love to get the rite r series sub or subs for it
what happened to the 15
Got this in an 8 inch in a Skar tube style ported enclosure. Very impressive.
Skar audio is ugly
@IceColdTruth Good thing I don't care what you think I guess.
@IceColdTruth I have an Alpine Type R in a Skar enclosure and it sounds perfect.
@@Punkinspapado you enjoy it? what kind of amp your running?
Can yall please evenly distribute the push terminals so they dont load down 1 side of the spider packs and also add a 3rd magnet and 15s and 18s. Please ... please.... maybe?
😆👍👍
Do you guys sponsor builds? I’m looking at 3 of these in a sealed enclosure for my SQ build.
So no technical discussion and getting excited over a flared pole vent etc. Long video to say its basically a cosmetic change at best. Ok 👌
Was gonna buy a alpine subs type R but the price was too heavily expensive so I went with a skar EVL 10inch
Considering JL Audio wants the charge like 4x more, I’d say Alpine gives you a deal. It’s about quality
I love the type S and R but I had to move on to a company that makes more powerful subwoofers. Unless I wanted to put 6 type R's in my car 😂. I will say that I still have a pair of type S 12's that I put 800 watts a piece to for about 5 years daily and they're still as good as they were when I first bought them. But now they're sitting in boxes because I upgraded to 3000 rms subs.
What is the point of having that much power? You can't even hear anything else but the bass
@@charliee5970this guy has no clue what he’s talking about. One 12” Type-R Halo can slam a neighborhood.
Tengo uno de 10" 1000wrms q tanto sonara??
What you don't seem to have is a new shallow Type-R... You discontinued the last shallow mount without having new ones to replace it. When are new shallow-mounts expected to debut? Something to compete with the JL Audio shallows that have 600W RMS, 15mm Xmax, and only a 3" mounting depth. That's what you really need to get bringing out.
Shallows are in more demand now!
So. Yea..
What are you talking about? They do have new shallow mount subs. Look on the website!
No they’re not in demand at all. Mini Subs like 6.5’s and 8’s are in demand as they play lower and hit harder than a shallow sub in a truck. My backlog for truck installs is enough to keep me busy til October. Every single one wants multiple hard hitting 6’s or 8’s. I’ve been taking these prefab shallow sub setups out of most of them because the customer wasn’t happy and came to me for something better.
@@jordancastro5700 Last I saw via Crutchfield just a few months ago and they said discontinued....
But I checked just now and NOW they show new models up, so I stand corrected. Thanks. 20mm of Xmax from a shallow, that's crazy and I'm here for that!
@JoeIsCrazyWillman i know right? I need to check it out
Eric made me return to my installer and spend 2500$ extras guy knows how to sell
I felt like I was watching a presentation for a Fisher Price subwoofer. 😂
Alpine brings back good memories from the 90s , but todays alpine is a bit expensive for the working people
This is the most bang for your buck. JL Audio is the real fraud.
Not a fan of plastic covers over the magnets. Always tend to look the other way when I see it.
Those are actually rubber ✏️ completely different esp for absorption of energy
Alpine discontinued their 15in type r subs. That's a deal breaker for me. As you can still go sq in larger subwoofers. Do you realize how fast Alpine would sell out if they made an 18in?
12’s are the new 15’s
@@IceColdTruth I much prefer a larger sub over multiple smaller subs.
@@randomtube8226 Stereo beats mono. 3D effect “spatial audio”. 2 is more than 1.
Looks like the only thing that’s changed is the logo and the grill mount, cool….
Don’t judge a book by its cover. Have you read the owners manuals of each generation model? The specs get better with every release.
How come Alpine never recalled the PDX M6 amplifiers that caused subwoofer coils to literally burn? Safety safety safety, and they totally ignored it.
Don’t turn it up to 100% and the copper coils won’t burn tf out. Common sense people.
Nope! Listening volume had nothing do with it. Their amp threw constant 43 VDC output out of the speaker terminal and there was no adjustment. You had to know of the failure to be able to shut the radio off in time. Lots of these amps caused sub failures and Alpine did nothing to fix it.
Alpine amps are designed for high RMS wattage. If something went wrong it was because you messed up somewhere!
👍👀👍
Bring back the 15s
#AlpineMobileMediaSolutions has Lost a lot of their customer base because they just don't know their customers. I don't know any people who own Alpine Head Units who use their Speakers or Amps for that matter. Alpine really messed up with the introduction of those Cheap looking RGB Lighting Single DIN's and now the Halo Line of Android Style Touch Screen Audio. Like I said, Alpine doesn't know their Customer Base. Not sure what happened to this company, did they sell it to someone else? Did that Fukashima Nuclear Power Plant melt down their brains? I found Alpine in the Late 80's and owned units like the 7374, up to the INA-W900 with IMPRINT Module (Best Purchase I ever Made) Now I want a INA-910 (4V Preouts) with the PXA-H800 and RUX-C800 connected to some other brand of Amp and of course JL Subs, and I'm leaning towards Focal Mids, and probably matching tweeters. Thanks for coming out Alpine. Good Luck.
JBL Arena has a much better looking basket, but Alpine has the Xmax that slams. JBL for SQ, Alpine for SPL
A few years ago I bought two alpine SWR 12D2 subs brand new delivered to my door for $300 even !
Today I cant get one delivered for $400 now that they charge tax !
Needless to say I don't buy alpine subwoofers anymore.
If alpine wants to make any money they need a high bl, low fs, high excursion, 6th order compatible sub. Minimum of 2500 rms with a minimum 3 inch 8 layer coil. Keep the qts under .36 and youll start seeing them sold by the thousands. Just look at vids from sound shows and research your competition for crying out loud. Kicked slightly understood this and gave us a new solo. Its severely overhyped, but at least they tried i guess. But i guess they still think anything under 40hz is just wasted information. Alpine and kicker are the Bidens of the audio world. They still think its 1980 baby!
Specific and stupid. Congratulations!🎉
Guys stop buying this crap of a subwoofer ive bought one last year and its crap trust me there are better options on ebay and cheaper for example ground zero ,db audio ,vibe etc much more powerful and les expensive or same price
Sorry not the bass for me you guys have to step it up .. or lower the price
Just like apple same crap with a different badge on it. Built a 4th order for 4 12s in a 74 impalla that ported through the rear deck. Guy had type r already so i built specifically for them. Bet him i could put cheaper subs in it and out perform the r's no problem. Put some entry level subs from a well known company with the same rms and destroyed the r's. Sounded better too btw. Alpine is just a circuit city revival piece. And just so people know, "skar" is just hand-me-down sundown. Its just sundowns models from a few years ago that they deamed not worthy anymore. Hence "skarbage"😂😂😂
I used to love Alpine type R subs. Then i got Rockford fosgate P2 12s. Alpine sounds like distorted garbage compared to my P2s. They aren't any where near as loud, deep,or accurate either
@@sarahmatheny7140thats user error forsure. P2s would compete with the type Rs little brother, the type S. Type R is on par with a P3.
Alpine sure fell off the map.
I'll care about Alpine subs again if and only if they bring back the type r 15. My first real systrm in my 20s had a type r 12. Still have it to this day. But i have a big boy car now. And i have room for a big boy sub. Guess ill just stick with my XR-15 until alpine gets its head out of rich ppls arseholes.
This sun is embarrassing compared to what kicker has brought to the table especially the newest sun they dropped and that’s just a mainstream sub brand…
Or lower the price , from 600$ to 300$ pre load box. One or the other .. step the game up or lower the prices. Can’t have both expensive and not as good as other brands..
Stop pushing Kicker. Even JL is better than kicker
These are totally out dated now for as design I don't even like type R's anymore use to blow them all the time even the 15's
I dont buy alpine anymore, why don't you support your customers?
Nope. Every time you come out with a new one, it's been worst than the first. The first type r with the half roll surround were the only ones any good. You have ruined the alpine name just like epsilon has done the ppi name.