Dr Grande will never run out of cases to analyze because the world will not run out of disturbed folks. There's always something to learn I must say. :)
I really tried hard to find a example that doesn't fit here haha, but even being addicted to being positive can be bad.... because it makes people delusion on a negative event that can help them learn.
I knew Jeff Trail for 10 years... from his days at the Naval Academy to when he was murdered. He was the sweetest, nicest guy I’ve ever known in my life. His only flaw was that he felt sorry for Andrew, and couldn’t bring himself to use some tough love and cut him out of his life. I loved Jeff very much, and I still do. I always will 😢
I completely concur, he was a rare breed of a sweet, intelligent gentleman that always had a friendly smile and easy, confident engagement with you when you ran into him. I do miss him very much.
Watching the series, I really felt so bad for all the victims, but especially Jeff and David. They were so young. I was hoping so much that David would escape, so sad he took them both before they realized their dreams. Jeff and David would have been a great couple. They were both portrayed as very good people. None of them deserved this, they all got tangled up with a killer.
Somewhat good analysis, I’m not a Doctor but I knew Andrew pretty well, Jeff Trail and Andrew’s mother Mary for a few years. I think most people don’t get how gregarious, often charming and overtly outgoing - almost raucous, he was. His laugh was legendary and distinctive - something few documentaries or fictionalized docudramas ever have portrayed. He was also almost strangely generous, he gifted me a portable CD player out of his trunk one night upon finding out it was my birthday and a very expensive architectural coffee table book for a housewarming gift (not signed, Damn!) both he and Jeff were at my housewarming party. He absolutely was a serial liar, but if you weren’t personally invested into whatever the lie was they mostly manifested themselves as quirky, amusing stories, “I can’t tell you how many parties in Rancho Sante Fe where Herb Ritts was attending with hot models I almost missed”... The thing was he was so damn smart that he would inject more than a few bits of accuracy or focused information about whatever the lie was that it always seemed at least, maybe plausible. Again, if you weren’t invested into whatever that lie was it was mostly no harm no foul. Predictably now, we did not know him by his real last name of Cunanan until the murders, he was DaSilva to us, of a Brazilian Jewish heritage lol. His wit, charm and intelligence took him up to a certain social level for a while, able to hold court with both gogo boys and PHD professors. I remember having a somewhat deep conversation about a contemporary English architect that few people not in the profession would know one night in a dance club, that was Andrew, he knew at least a little about EVERYTHING and sometimes much more. He was canny about picking and choosing tidbits of information that might prove beneficial or attractive in conversations with wealthy benefactors. He must have gained those 30 pounds fast because I saw him last in late March or early April and he wasn’t pudgy then. It was sad and shocking the turn of events, especially the brutal murder of his former good friend Jeff, a solid great guy, retired Naval officer, who was well liked and respected and I always enjoyed his humble, friendly midwestern personality. For more than a few days we were all pretty terrified he would come back here, if he did that to Jeff he could do that to anybody he knew. The whole thing is one of the weirdest connections to infamy I have ever experienced in my life. I remember on the morning of Versace’s murder completely joking with another guy who also knew him with an offhand comment that Andrew probably did it - this is when his whereabouts were still completely unknown - and how within a couple of hours it totally freaked us out when the news came out who the suspect was.
Thank you for sharing your story. I always find it fascinating to hear experiences from people who encountered these types of individuals. This was an interesting read. Best regards, PHR.
thank you so much for sharing. I am always fascinated by the experience of people who have had the chance to get to know people like Andrew and so many whose actions turned out so egregious. For all of us who never met them, it seems impossible that friends and acquaintances never noticed anything sinister, but to be it's truly the proof that some of these very very disturbed people are excellent at wearing their mask of normality... I also wonder if what he let out with the murders was there all along (and he was somewhat aware of it) or if he snapped, and the issue manifested itself in its gruesome violence out of the blue
The "American Crime Story" season about this (aka "assassination of gianni versace") is really good. The actor who portrays Cunanan captures the unstable killer mannerisms amazingly well. It is chilling.
@calo10able I mean, yes. Unless their abusive Parents, parents will spoil their kids to a certain point. I was spoiled as a kid but I was never taught to believe that the rules didn’t apply. My mother made sure of that. This guy...his parents thought he was so special that they send him to this elite school and I don’t think he was ever disciplined for doing the wrong things because he would go on to kill 5 people including Versace pretty much thinking no law enforcement would be looking for him
It's like either extreme can create serious problems in children. I'm not a parent, 99% by choice, bc I know I still deal with my own issues. I can't imagine trying to raise another person. Kudos to all the good parents out there!
@Freda Jordan If you are a parent, I tip my hat to you. Especially if you know how to walk that middle line which people have been discussing on how to best raise children who don't feel entitled, but also have good self esteem. It doesn't look easy.
@@TheTam0613 lots of props to the ones who are raising well rounded, moral children. I think it was a surprise to hear about how privileged this guy was because in Most cases the murderer would most likely not have had half the privileges this guy grew up with. This guy was raised to think he was special. Not mr Rogers “you are special “ but the more extreme “you’re so special no one will care what you do” . Most murderers come from abusive parents or abandonment issues or something like that
@@reythejediladyviajakku6078 It really shocked me too! I hate seeing parents hurt their kids. I don't know how many times I've said to my partner, "if parents could just put their kids first in a healthy way, we wouldn't have nearly as many potential serial killers or violent people in the world."! And I've seen so many small acts of cruelty towards their children, pulling their hair to get their attention, backhanding their child for asking questions, etc. It horrifies me. But at the same time, every person alive should be completely aware that their choices have consequences-good & bad. It's one thing to teach your child that you will always love them, but another thing to say that nothing will ever be their fault. God forbid, if I ever caused serious bodily harm to someone without any cause, my parents would be deeply disappointed and tell me that I should feel ashamed for that. They would still love me, but they would make it clear that I made a terrible choice and they wouldn't try to get me or of jail (totally rhetorical situation here). They would believe in my punishment. And I'm in my 30s, so that's how much of their morality they instilled in me.
I wrote a paper on him in my last year of my Masters degree in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior.. I'm really excited to hear what you say also. You teach me a lot so I enjoy your videos..
@DrumWild You do realize mistakes are part of life right? That's why editors are an actual profession.. The fact that making this simple mistake means I'm not good at English shows how ridiculous and ignorant you are to draw such an extreme over something so minimal. Are you that bored with life you feel the need to have to try and put someone down or be disrespectful over one word?
Yeah he's a bit in between those two types. His was more of a rampage, but he did have "cooling off periods" where he was driving those long distances.
Technically he would be a spree killer, since Jeff Trails was the first person he is known to have killed, followed by several more people in quick succession before killing himself. So just that one cluster of murders. However, he’s unusual amongst spree killers because he traveled long distances in pursuit of his victims, and had plenty of time in between to cool down, which is when most spree killers either kill themselves or try to flee. Now, if it were discovered that Andrew Cunanan had killed _other_ people prior to Jeff Trails, at a much earlier date, _then_ he would be a serial killer, which by definition is a murderer who has committed multiple clusters of different unrelated murders over the course of their life.
I have a friend whose son was murdered in the mid-90’s in San Diego, and the case was never solved. He was brutally beaten to death in his home. It’s been suspected that Andrew Cunanan was the killer but he was never officially linked to the case.
Excellent analysis as always! I knew about Andrew Cunanan because of Versace’s death but I didn’t really read much or watch the news about it. Last year, I watched The Assassination of Gianni Versace on Netflix and I was so freaked out by AC. To go from pathological liar to killing spree is quite the leap. That show was so well done I highly recommend it. It paid tribute to the victims who are typically forgotten in these cases.
Hello Dr. Grande, thank you for all the effort you put into these videos. As a practicing counselling educator, you must sacrifice much of your spare time creating great quality vids (the quantity of which is equally impressive). This does not go unnoticed. In fact, aspiring student counsellors like myself are recommending your channel to peers, and I have even seen a more established "veteran" youtuber recommend your channel to his followers. May you keep growing in popularity, I look forward to viewing more of your content.
I agree that he qualifies technically as a serial killer but to me he fits more in the category of a spree killer. Thank you for all your hard work. I look forward to your videos.
Dr Grande your analysis on this man was brilliant You really know how too analyse these people so well Thanks Dr Grande can't wait to hear your next topic you're the best
Thank-you Dr. Grande for your insightful analysis! How dangerous a tool the ego is in the wrong hands! The ego is necessary but it must be grounded in reality, not fantasy. Thank-you again!
Cunanan wasn’t considered a “serial killer” in the classic sense and fit much more so into the “spree killer” category. When his narcissistic delusions of grandeur came crashing down (i.e., when the world didn’t unfold before him in the way he wanted it to), and thinking himself _entitled,_ he found himself among the common - broke, uneducated or trained, unrecognized, etc. With this realization, he snapped and because of his Axis-ll characteristics (blaming the world, not himself, etc.), he decided to punish that world and to leave his notorious mark. In short, he was a under-matured narcissistic loser. Note: I believe he did meet Gianni Versace at a party on one occasion prior to his murdering of him and the party might have been at (one of) Versace’s homes.
Me too. Of all the serial killers I've heard of on here and other places as well, there are three (so far) that I wish I could have met. This guy here, Elliot Rodger and Richard Ramirez. Weird I know.
I agree! I love how he puts out a new video every day - that takes a lot of hard work, motivation, etc., and it’s just amazing how Dr. G manages to pull it off so effortlessly (I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his name is “Grande”)! I wish Dr. G could give me some therapy sessions, as I’d love to hear his thoughts and opinions on my issues! I’ve had diagnoses that I don’t agree with, and also one diagnosis I’ve had other docs tell me there’s no way I have it! I think Dr. G’s opinions are quite valuable - he’s very smart, logical, rational, calm, kind...everything a great therapist and counselor should be. He also seems to have no problems being and staying objective at all times, which I think is quite impressive (I think most humans have a tough time being that objective all the time; it’s so easy to invest ourselves emotionally into everything we hear, see, and experience). Drs however are supposed to remain objective, but they’re also human and it’s not always easy to stay objective...but like I said, Dr. G just makes it seem so easy! Great great video as always! 👍👍👍👍
As always, thank you Dr. Grande for your articulate and thoughtful analysis of this case. Your conclusions deepened my understanding of all the different aspects of this case, especially the motive. Appreciate the many, many hours you invest in this quality content!
this case is one of the most out-there cases i've heard of. i've watched many docuseries about him.... there's so much to get into, i can't wait to see your views on it all! thank you as always, have a nice day
He went to The Bishop's School in La Jolla, Ca. I used to photograph graves for relatives at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery. By happenstance, I passed by his tomb in the Mausoleum. He is buried with his mother.
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande!! Your videos always make my days more intelligent and your words inspire me to be more aware, as well as more compassionate. Plus your humor is so much like mine. I can't thank you enough for all your hard work and your continued efforts to bring more awareness to mental health. 💛
I think his narcissism caused him to think he was entitled to the best life he could live, yet he couldn’t do it on his own. He might have killed each man out of rejection, feeling entitled to their belongings, or just pure jealousy of their success. I think he killed Versace because he was very famous and a huge success in the fashion industry. Cunanan wanted to take him out of his realms, which also devastated many peoples lives. A pure evil narcissist! Just my opinion. 🥰🍂🍁🌾🎃🌻
When I watched the TCS on this it said he had bumped shoulders with Versace out socially. He was completely in awe of him & his ability to light up any room but Versace never really managed to notice him. From what the friends of Giovanni Versace were saying it was almost like one of those “If I can’t be you then you can’t either” crazy ass things!!
Thank you for the excellent analysis. I followed this closely as it was happening, watched the Netflix documentary, etc...I wouldn’t know what to give him for a diagnosis, but narcissism seems to ring out so clearly throughout his life. Terrible horror for the lives of so many that he killed and ruined filling whatever it was that was driving him. Thanks again, Dr. Grande.
The second season of American Crime Story which also covers this case is well done too. The actors, especially Darren Criss who played Cunanan did spectacular and even won an Emmy
I’m sure you will reach 500k soon and I would love to understand how you maintain such a hectic filming editing and research schedule as well as a family time and practice your professional endeavours as well. Love all your well thought out videos. Keep up the great work Doc 😇
-The first 2 murders he acts impulsively out of anger. -The third murder ( which is the most violent) he has made a concious decision to act out his rage and seek notoriety considering his life is effectively over. -the fourth murder was an event of opportunity to change vehicles. -the fifth, and as with the third murder, was a conscious effort for notoriety but at a grand scale. I dont think he necessarily hated Versace of what he represented, he was just controlling circunstances and changing the direction of his path into oblivion. PS: 1-He wasnt suicidal at the stage of the first 2 murders. 2- As always, substance abuse (specially alcohol) is the Elephant in the Room about Serial Killers and social violence at large.
Yes!! I left a comment a while ago, asking if you would be interested to look into this case and here it is!!🤗 Thank you for your insight, always so interesting! Love from Netherlands❣
I’d *highly* recommend watching The *Assassination of Gianni Versace* on Netflix if you’re interested in this case. It’s a hell of a rollercoaster ride. 10/10
It’s a fantastic series, as was the OJ Simpson one before, wish Ryan Murphy would focus more on that programme rather than the increasingly mediocre American Horror Story...
@@alecburris4225 well he was doing method acting, whether he became deluded while method acting is debatable, but the reason why he was in that position in the first place was due to method acting for a role. It is not as if he out of the blue thought he was Andy. He was in the process of making film about Andy, and was emercing himself in the role. Isn't the point of a an analysis is to to debate these points? If it is not as if you can prove it. The fact that it is ambiguous as to his true character, is very Andy Kaufman. Spike Milligan, for example had a persona that was constantly shifting. He did have severe PTSD (shell shock)and likely bi-polar. Jim also is Bi-Polar and it is possible he could have delusions for time to time.
@@Mein-Darth very true. There are many out there with these narcissistic traits and grand delusions who will use others as pawns. It's scary they can be anyone everywhere
Wow. I am totally addicted to your videos Dr. Grande. I can't believe how you analyze these people with such detail. So many lives lost. I think Andrew Cunanan was a Narcissist to the highest degree. Then had a manic episode when he realized he was poor and decided to kill himself, but being a Gradiose Narc he wanted to be famous or infamous which he accomplished.
I'm curious about his older siblings, what they were like and how they viewed Andrew. I don't understand why Andrew would have been given the master bedroom of the house?
Anytime I see your videos I'm instantly gonna thumbs up it even if I dont watch it until later. I really want to support you in making the world a better place to exist.
'After me, the flood', or 'Apres moi le deluge' was originally attributed to King Louis XV of France and is thought to be a narcissistic allusion to the idea that after he was dead nothing else in the World would matter or that he was completely indifferent to a posthumous future i.e. he had no concerns about his the effect of his actions after he was no more. Seems rather appropriate when considering Cunanan's attitude to others. It is also the motto of 617 Squadron, Royal Air Force, known colloquially as the Dam Busters, which carried out the famous raid on German dams during WW2, thus flooding large areas of German industry.
I’m somewhat intrigued by the French statement. If it’s anything like the German equivalent, then that is very insightful. “After me the flood” is essentially a way to express maximum recklessness. The flood that’s being referred to is of biblical proportions. The idea behind the statement is that the speaker (or the one being referred to) realises that they don’t care if the world ends after they’re gone. They only worry about themselves in the here and now.
I am from Minnesota, and remember his case. Cunanon. Was called a spree killer. Not the typical serial killer, killing to feel superior to others. To quote Joe Biden, he was a bad dude. I suspect he was raised as the premadanna male, spoiled. When a parent or both parents spoil a kid, not disciplining them the kid starts to believe they are above others. Add to this the pain of the family break up and his dad's moral lapses in both his work life and his family. Cunanan never developed a carreer or went on to post high school education. He also seemed to get away with lesser crimes, selling drugs, prostitution. He may have murdered someone in California before coming to Minnesota. according to reports at the time.
To be honest; "American Crime Story: the Assassination of Gianni Versace" was extremely scary. Darren Criss gave a very impressive performance as Andrew Cunanan but I enjoyed the performances of Edgar Ramirez and Penélope Cruz as Gianni and Donatella Versace, respectively.
M S You will need to get an old copy of 'The Bachman Books’, as since the late 1990’s it’s been out of print. The remainder novellas are still obviously part of The Bachman Books, but not Rage.
Hello Dr. Todd Grande !!! I love your videos ! Can you one day do a video on psychedelics (acid or mushrooms) and wether or not they have legitimate medical use ? That would be so cool :)
I always enjoy your content, Dr. Grande! Would you consider doing an analysis on Paris Bennett? The case is so heartbreaking but I’d love to hear your insight. Keep up the great work!
Being a spoiled child is bad and good. My mother bought me and my brothers everything. We didn’t have to pay for anything but as the years go by we smarten up and have taken advantage of being spoiled by saving our money and things we couldn’t buy. Now, we’re hard working individuals that realize money can go at any time.
Thankyou Dr. In addition to your well-rehearsed display of *firearm* knowledge, your well-rehearsed O.C.E.A.N explanation is rival only to your expert knowledge of narcissism, as well as to the profile of various serial killer types, which truly gives the expert explanation of these foul deeds. Thank you for your time and effort, Dr. Grande. One thing I missed was the *out-takes* in which I made up, one in which I noticed that his victims names started only with the *13th* to the *22nd* letter of the alphabet, *M,M,R,V,T* which would show either poor planning, poor long-term outlooks, and perhaps the effect of shaming by his mother.
Insightful and informative, as usual, Dr. Grande. I remember the way the entire country was following Cunanan's murder spree. What a senseless series of deaths. It's apparent his behavior stemmed from his father's life as a source of distress w/the terrible knowledge that resulted from living a lie.
Exceedingly talkative and intelligent, an IQ that's 3 standard deviations above the mean, a fatty, an unfashionable dresser with bad hair...hang on, you're describing me, Dr Grande! Only difference is my IQ is 3 standard deviations BELOW the mean.
love your videos. it’s so great to have insight on what may be going on with people......& the way you explain things makes it easy & fun to learn things like this. this is completely farfetched but i have been really into “Killing Stalking”, a popular psychological korean comic by Koogi. i would never expect you to go out of your way & read it & make an analysis of the main characters but i just wanted to mention it, if maybe you’d ever want to give a work of fiction like that a try (it’s very explicit). it would be really great to see your perspective on what the characters may be dealing with. ^^ hope all is well with you, Dr. Grande!
Thank you for another video! I admire you so much doc..you are my favorite😍💋 always learning from you. Human behavior fascinates me so I just love your channel!!!
@Bianca RD Yes, with an empty, vacuous acumen who wished to be more important than his intelligence would allow. Tragic and sad--for him and for others.
Great video, your analysis was excellent:)❤️ Dr. Grande, I hope all is well with you. I imagine that you must be extremely busy with your projects. I wish you success in everything you do.
Would you ever be interesred in speculating on ancient romans like caligula or Nero, or even Augustus and Julius Caesar? I would love to hear you weigh in on any of those
Thanks for the video Dr G, exemplary as always. I saw a documentary that said Andrew had claimed to have met Versace in a nightclub I think it was. He was a pathological liar though, so who really knows the truth. Some of his friends maintain they were witness to the fact he did indeed meet Versace, and it is argued whether it was once or twice. It was hypothesised that Andrew, who we know had hugely grandiose ideals about his life, he saw Versace as who he should have been - the gay, successful, famous man. Versace symbolised all Andrew felt he should have been, and was never going to be. It all lead to the unravelling of his life. Anyway, thats what I got out of the documentary and things I have read about the case. Who knows though... it is so sad so many people had to die at the hands of Cunanan.
Dr. Grande, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Wayne Williams, the convicted Atlanta Child Killer and also law enforcement handling of the case. I was friends with the daughter of Police Chief Graham who went to his grave believing “Wayne Williams didn’t kill anybody”. I’ve even done some amateur sleuthing in the case myself here in Atlanta. Would love to hear your insights!
IMO he definitely did not kill all of them if he killed any. I was so proud of Police Chief Graham for coming out and saying the unpopular. Even though it was too little too late it’s so important that someone from law enforcement at that time actually said it! The kkk was killing most of those poor boys and The FBI was terrified to risk a race war breaking out. They found a young man with some serious mental issues, got some big shots in the music world at the time who were already in BIG trouble for other things to make up stories about seeing Wayne in certain places that would fit their narrative & they wiped their decades long sentences off the board and said “Have a good life.” A total tragedy all around.
I remember following Cunanan's rampage in the news. I agree it seemed as though he wanted to make a name for himself, it must have worked in some small way because I had no problem recalling his name. I wonder what happened to him in his childhood? I believe these illnesses can be genetic, is that correct? I am curious as to the status of his siblings. I enjoyed your offering for a better job description for him, importing land from the French Riviera to build parking lots, indeed! You are a wit as well as a font of information. It seems as though the man always had a screw loose, and yes I know that is not an accepted scientific diagnosis. Thanks for your work doctor, it is both informative and sometimes enjoyable. I wonder what that says about me? No please don't tell me......
Great one Dr Grande, I'm recall watching this unfold in real time. If the media hadn't leaked phone info, Gianni and that poor other man would still be alive. 😟 Gianni reflected such beauty. This creep, pure evil. Leaving those bullets behind shows he was unravelling. Yuk
Whew, when Dr mentioned that xtra 35lbs n sloppy hair... I realized it could be any if us right now ! 😀 I thought dr grande was onto my new lockdown look: Occasionally shower Constipated from fast food Early to bed Another day in these sweats Never been so bored 😄
It definitely seems like he was consciously reckless and nihilistic, he wanted to see just how much he could get away with, which would stimulate his grandiose
I always love these analysis from your videos, and so happy for the growth on this channel, would be interested in seeing your in depth analysis of Elliot Rodgers even though you already touched on incels his case always interested me. Thanks.
Come on Doctor Grande, please do the case of Susan Atkins & her "sister's" , in regards especially of their possible "rehabilitation" and guilt after many years, is it possible total rehab?
Donato Bilancia, an Italian serial killer, was very similar to Cunanan. He too had antisocial, narcissistic, and borderline features. He was a burglar and gambler who, while in his ("dangerous") forties, realized he was a failure and could not live up to his grandiose sense of self anymore, so he fell into a depression and embarked on a self-destructive, suicidal killing spree (as in Cunanan's case, more typical of a "spree", rather than "serial" killer). In the fall of 1997, he exacted revenge on two people (including a friend) who he believed had cheated and defrauded him, triggering the acting out of his fantasies of compensation and revenge for what he perceived was the umpteenth injustice towards him, as well as fantasies of ritualized possession and control. Later, he killed fifteen other people basically at random: in some cases he would kill during robberies, in other cases he would kill prostitutes, in still others he would kill random women on trains. Some of the murders also had a sexual component to them.
My cousin looks a lot like Cunanan. (I live in Minnesota.) A friend and I anonymously called the cops to "report" him, then hid in the bushes across the street to watch the fun. My cousin has ever spoken to me again. i was thirty-three years old at the time and I still shake with laughter when I think about it.
Dr Grande will never run out of cases to analyze because the world will not run out of disturbed folks.
There's always something to learn I must say. :)
That is FOR SURE ! 💯
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Kay, you are so right!
“Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol, morphine or idealism.”
― Carl Gustav Jung
I don't like this statement very much. Jung was such an excessive believer in esoteric thinking himself that I can hardly believe he said that.
@@mrs.reluctant4095 Agreed. Jung was definitely a man if excess even if only in terms of his ideas and ideology.
I really tried hard to find a example that doesn't fit here haha, but even being addicted to being positive can be bad.... because it makes people delusion on a negative event that can help them learn.
I knew Jeff Trail for 10 years... from his days at the Naval Academy to when he was murdered. He was the sweetest, nicest guy I’ve ever known in my life. His only flaw was that he felt sorry for Andrew, and couldn’t bring himself to use some tough love and cut him out of his life. I loved Jeff very much, and I still do. I always will 😢
I completely concur, he was a rare breed of a sweet, intelligent gentleman that always had a friendly smile and easy, confident engagement with you when you ran into him. I do miss him very much.
Watching the series, I really felt so bad for all the victims, but especially Jeff and David. They were so young. I was hoping so much that David would escape, so sad he took them both before they realized their dreams. Jeff and David would have been a great couple. They were both portrayed as very good people. None of them deserved this, they all got tangled up with a killer.
I’m sorry for your loss. ❤️
I am very sorry for your Loss.
Thank you for sharing this, I am sorry you lost your loved one.
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Somewhat good analysis, I’m not a Doctor but I knew Andrew pretty well, Jeff Trail and Andrew’s mother Mary for a few years. I think most people don’t get how gregarious, often charming and overtly outgoing - almost raucous, he was. His laugh was legendary and distinctive - something few documentaries or fictionalized docudramas ever have portrayed. He was also almost strangely generous, he gifted me a portable CD player out of his trunk one night upon finding out it was my birthday and a very expensive architectural coffee table book for a housewarming gift (not signed, Damn!) both he and Jeff were at my housewarming party. He absolutely was a serial liar, but if you weren’t personally invested into whatever the lie was they mostly manifested themselves as quirky, amusing stories, “I can’t tell you how many parties in Rancho Sante Fe where Herb Ritts was attending with hot models I almost missed”... The thing was he was so damn smart that he would inject more than a few bits of accuracy or focused information about whatever the lie was that it always seemed at least, maybe plausible. Again, if you weren’t invested into whatever that lie was it was mostly no harm no foul. Predictably now, we did not know him by his real last name of Cunanan until the murders, he was DaSilva to us, of a Brazilian Jewish heritage lol. His wit, charm and intelligence took him up to a certain social level for a while, able to hold court with both gogo boys and PHD professors. I remember having a somewhat deep conversation about a contemporary English architect that few people not in the profession would know one night in a dance club, that was Andrew, he knew at least a little about EVERYTHING and sometimes much more. He was canny about picking and choosing tidbits of information that might prove beneficial or attractive in conversations with wealthy benefactors. He must have gained those 30 pounds fast because I saw him last in late March or early April and he wasn’t pudgy then. It was sad and shocking the turn of events, especially the brutal murder of his former good friend Jeff, a solid great guy, retired Naval officer, who was well liked and respected and I always enjoyed his humble, friendly midwestern personality. For more than a few days we were all pretty terrified he would come back here, if he did that to Jeff he could do that to anybody he knew. The whole thing is one of the weirdest connections to infamy I have ever experienced in my life. I remember on the morning of Versace’s murder completely joking with another guy who also knew him with an offhand comment that Andrew probably did it - this is when his whereabouts were still completely unknown - and how within a couple of hours it totally freaked us out when the news came out who the suspect was.
Thank you for sharing your story. I always find it fascinating to hear experiences from people who encountered these types of individuals. This was an interesting read.
Best regards, PHR.
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This is amazing & fascinating. Thank you so
much for sharing.
Thank you for sharing this. Sounds like he had a lot going for him until he decided to murder innocent men.
thank you so much for sharing. I am always fascinated by the experience of people who have had the chance to get to know people like Andrew and so many whose actions turned out so egregious.
For all of us who never met them, it seems impossible that friends and acquaintances never noticed anything sinister, but to be it's truly the proof that some of these very very disturbed people are excellent at wearing their mask of normality...
I also wonder if what he let out with the murders was there all along (and he was somewhat aware of it) or if he snapped, and the issue manifested itself in its gruesome violence out of the blue
The "American Crime Story" season about this (aka "assassination of gianni versace") is really good. The actor who portrays Cunanan captures the unstable killer mannerisms amazingly well. It is chilling.
Agreed! Darren Criss is a fantastic actor 👌
Agreed!! I knew right away that the actor would win an award for that performance
He also happens to be part Filipino!
@@liriodendronlasianthus, oh yeah, Andrew Cunanan and actor Darren Criss are both half-Filipino.
The show is amazing!
This is why you don’t let your kids think they’re so special that the rules don’t apply to them
@calo10able I mean, yes. Unless their abusive Parents, parents will spoil their kids to a certain point. I was spoiled as a kid but I was never taught to believe that the rules didn’t apply. My mother made sure of that. This guy...his parents thought he was so special that they send him to this elite school and I don’t think he was ever disciplined for doing the wrong things because he would go on to kill 5 people including Versace pretty much thinking no law enforcement would be looking for him
It's like either extreme can create serious problems in children. I'm not a parent, 99% by choice, bc I know I still deal with my own issues. I can't imagine trying to raise another person. Kudos to all the good parents out there!
@Freda Jordan If you are a parent, I tip my hat to you. Especially if you know how to walk that middle line which people have been discussing on how to best raise children who don't feel entitled, but also have good self esteem. It doesn't look easy.
@@TheTam0613 lots of props to the ones who are raising well rounded, moral children. I think it was a surprise to hear about how privileged this guy was because in Most cases the murderer would most likely not have had half the privileges this guy grew up with. This guy was raised to think he was special. Not mr Rogers “you are special “ but the more extreme “you’re so special no one will care what you do” . Most murderers come from abusive parents or abandonment issues or something like that
@@reythejediladyviajakku6078 It really shocked me too! I hate seeing parents hurt their kids. I don't know how many times I've said to my partner, "if parents could just put their kids first in a healthy way, we wouldn't have nearly as many potential serial killers or violent people in the world."! And I've seen so many small acts of cruelty towards their children, pulling their hair to get their attention, backhanding their child for asking questions, etc. It horrifies me.
But at the same time, every person alive should be completely aware that their choices have consequences-good & bad. It's one thing to teach your child that you will always love them, but another thing to say that nothing will ever be their fault. God forbid, if I ever caused serious bodily harm to someone without any cause, my parents would be deeply disappointed and tell me that I should feel ashamed for that. They would still love me, but they would make it clear that I made a terrible choice and they wouldn't try to get me or of jail (totally rhetorical situation here). They would believe in my punishment. And I'm in my 30s, so that's how much of their morality they instilled in me.
One Dr. Grande video a day keeps the psychopaths away.
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😜 hell yeah
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And sociopaths
I wrote a paper on him in my last year of my Masters degree in Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior.. I'm really excited to hear what you say also. You teach me a lot so I enjoy your videos..
Was Andrew ever married or had kids?
Trail Windz No. Him and David talked about it but did not happen. No kids either if I am remembering correctly..
And thank goodness for that (him having any kids)!!
@@Swnsasy very interesting choice for your paper! My criminology paper was on Ted Bundy lol which was years before this Versace Fx series.
@DrumWild You do realize mistakes are part of life right? That's why editors are an actual profession.. The fact that making this simple mistake means I'm not good at English shows how ridiculous and ignorant you are to draw such an extreme over something so minimal. Are you that bored with life you feel the need to have to try and put someone down or be disrespectful over one word?
I always thought of Cunanan as a spree killer, not so much as a serial killer.
same here he def seemed the poster child for spree killer.
Yeah he's a bit in between those two types. His was more of a rampage, but he did have "cooling off periods" where he was driving those long distances.
Roger that 👍
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Technically he would be a spree killer, since Jeff Trails was the first person he is known to have killed, followed by several more people in quick succession before killing himself. So just that one cluster of murders. However, he’s unusual amongst spree killers because he traveled long distances in pursuit of his victims, and had plenty of time in between to cool down, which is when most spree killers either kill themselves or try to flee.
Now, if it were discovered that Andrew Cunanan had killed _other_ people prior to Jeff Trails, at a much earlier date, _then_ he would be a serial killer, which by definition is a murderer who has committed multiple clusters of different unrelated murders over the course of their life.
I'm going to be so sad when the day comes when Dr. Grande takes a day off!!!
Hope not i enjoy listening to him during operations so calming
I have a friend whose son was murdered in the mid-90’s in San Diego, and the case was never solved. He was brutally beaten to death in his home.
It’s been suspected that Andrew Cunanan was the killer but he was never officially linked to the case.
Excellent analysis as always! I knew about Andrew Cunanan because of Versace’s death but I didn’t really read much or watch the news about it. Last year, I watched The Assassination of Gianni Versace on Netflix and I was so freaked out by AC. To go from pathological liar to killing spree is quite the leap. That show was so well done I highly recommend it. It paid tribute to the victims who are typically forgotten in these cases.
You spoil us❣️ hope you're having a great day 💕
I watched the series on Netflix called “ the assassatjon of Versace” highly recommended.
Great but that's too glamorized.. search for other docu and written material, if you're more interested
I watched that or tried to, but after awhile I was over it. I didn't even finish it. Interesting tho
@@epie6 I agree
@@epie6 I think it did a good job of making us hate Andrew but also showing us how he possibly could have ended up where he ended up
Hello Dr. Grande, thank you for all the effort you put into these videos. As a practicing counselling educator, you must sacrifice much of your spare time creating great quality vids (the quantity of which is equally impressive). This does not go unnoticed. In fact, aspiring student counsellors like myself are recommending your channel to peers, and I have even seen a more established "veteran" youtuber recommend your channel to his followers. May you keep growing in popularity, I look forward to viewing more of your content.
Yes as a behavioral psychologist I find this channel very interesting 🧐.
I agree that he qualifies technically as a serial killer but to me he fits more in the category of a spree killer. Thank you for all your hard work. I look forward to your videos.
Agreed
It’s interesting though how many interchangeably use “serial” and “spree”
Dr Grande your analysis on this man was brilliant You really know how too analyse these people so well Thanks Dr Grande can't wait to hear your next topic you're the best
Thank-you Dr. Grande for your insightful analysis! How dangerous a tool the ego is in the wrong hands! The ego is necessary but it must be grounded in reality, not fantasy. Thank-you again!
Cunanan wasn’t considered a “serial killer” in the classic sense and fit much more so into the “spree killer” category. When his narcissistic delusions of grandeur came crashing down (i.e., when the world didn’t unfold before him in the way he wanted it to), and thinking himself _entitled,_ he found himself among the common - broke, uneducated or trained, unrecognized, etc.
With this realization, he snapped and because of his Axis-ll characteristics (blaming the world, not himself, etc.), he decided to punish that world and to leave his notorious mark.
In short, he was a under-matured narcissistic loser.
Note: I believe he did meet Gianni Versace at a party on one occasion prior to his murdering of him and the party might have been at (one of) Versace’s homes.
I have been wanting you to do an analysis or him for soo long! I always found Andrew Cunanan fascinating
Me too. Of all the serial killers I've heard of on here and other places as well, there are three (so far) that I wish I could have met. This guy here, Elliot Rodger and Richard Ramirez. Weird I know.
Aaron B Andrew is a Virgo like me i think we share a-lot of the same personality traits
I guess having a high IQ didn't keep him from being a total wreck of a human being.
In can be a risk factor, in fact
@@Mdmsaturnia Makes me feel better about being only above average.
2...Yeah, Dr. Grande's videos are a daily highlight.
I agree! I love how he puts out a new video every day - that takes a lot of hard work, motivation, etc., and it’s just amazing how Dr. G manages to pull it off so effortlessly (I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his name is “Grande”)! I wish Dr. G could give me some therapy sessions, as I’d love to hear his thoughts and opinions on my issues! I’ve had diagnoses that I don’t agree with, and also one diagnosis I’ve had other docs tell me there’s no way I have it! I think Dr. G’s opinions are quite valuable - he’s very smart, logical, rational, calm, kind...everything a great therapist and counselor should be. He also seems to have no problems being and staying objective at all times, which I think is quite impressive (I think most humans have a tough time being that objective all the time; it’s so easy to invest ourselves emotionally into everything we hear, see, and experience). Drs however are supposed to remain objective, but they’re also human and it’s not always easy to stay objective...but like I said, Dr. G just makes it seem so easy! Great great video as always! 👍👍👍👍
@@ChaCha.44 Dr. Grande's description of depression matched my experience exactly.
Love the channel Doctor:
Would love to see a video on:
Chris Benoit
Tony Soprano
Budd Dwyer
L.Ron Hubbard
Budd: good man framed by his friends and nobody believes him, only option he saw was suicide.
Second on Budd Dwyer.
L. Ron Hubbard!
Given how the church of scientology harasses people, I would be concerned about L. Ron Hubbard.
Definitely Budd Dwyer
Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande. Excellent job, as always.
Dr. Grande is excellent at pulling out the relevant facts and getting to the crux of the matter.
As always, thank you Dr. Grande for your articulate and thoughtful analysis of this case. Your conclusions deepened my understanding of all the different aspects of this case, especially the motive. Appreciate the many, many hours you invest in this quality content!
this case is one of the most out-there cases i've heard of. i've watched many docuseries about him....
there's so much to get into, i can't wait to see your views on it all! thank you as always, have a nice day
He went to The Bishop's School in La Jolla, Ca. I used to photograph graves for relatives at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery. By happenstance, I passed by his tomb in the Mausoleum. He is buried with his mother.
Yay, Dr. Grande's videos always come on when I'm driving home or making dinner. A fine, educational and entertaining accompaniment to either.
Thank you for this analysis, Dr. Grande! I appreciate you so much for seeing my request and coming through with gold!
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande!! Your videos always make my days more intelligent and your words inspire me to be more aware, as well as more compassionate. Plus your humor is so much like mine. I can't thank you enough for all your hard work and your continued efforts to bring more awareness to mental health. 💛
I think his narcissism caused him to think he was entitled to the best life he could live, yet he couldn’t do it on his own. He might have killed each man out of rejection, feeling entitled to their belongings, or just pure jealousy of their success. I think he killed Versace because he was very famous and a huge success in the fashion industry. Cunanan wanted to take him out of his realms, which also devastated many peoples lives. A pure evil narcissist! Just my opinion. 🥰🍂🍁🌾🎃🌻
He was a demon. Our world has far too many.
When I watched the TCS on this it said he had bumped shoulders with Versace out socially. He was completely in awe of him & his ability to light up any room but Versace never really managed to notice him. From what the friends of Giovanni Versace were saying it was almost like one of those “If I can’t be you then you can’t either” crazy ass things!!
Appreciate your firearm knowledge and that you don’t recoil from expressing it.
Thank you for the excellent analysis. I followed this closely as it was happening, watched the Netflix documentary, etc...I wouldn’t know what to give him for a diagnosis, but narcissism seems to ring out so clearly throughout his life. Terrible horror for the lives of so many that he killed and ruined filling whatever it was that was driving him. Thanks again, Dr. Grande.
The second season of American Crime Story which also covers this case is well done too.
The actors, especially Darren Criss who played Cunanan did spectacular and even won an Emmy
Thank you for granting my request with this feature, Dr. Grande! Enjoyed it a lot :-)
I’m sure you will reach 500k soon and I would love to understand how you maintain such a hectic filming editing and research schedule as well as a family time and practice your professional endeavours as well. Love all your well thought out videos. Keep up the great work Doc 😇
-The first 2 murders he acts impulsively out of anger.
-The third murder ( which is the most violent) he has made a concious decision to act out his rage and seek notoriety considering his life is effectively over.
-the fourth murder was an event of opportunity to change vehicles.
-the fifth, and as with the third murder, was a conscious effort for notoriety but at a grand scale.
I dont think he necessarily hated Versace of what he represented, he was just controlling circunstances and changing the direction of his path into oblivion.
PS:
1-He wasnt suicidal at the stage of the first 2 murders.
2- As always, substance abuse (specially alcohol) is the Elephant in the Room about Serial Killers and social violence at large.
Yes!! I left a comment a while ago, asking if you would be interested to look into this case and here it is!!🤗
Thank you for your insight, always so interesting!
Love from Netherlands❣
I’d *highly* recommend watching The *Assassination of Gianni Versace* on Netflix if you’re interested in this case. It’s a hell of a rollercoaster ride. 10/10
It’s a fantastic series, as was the OJ Simpson one before, wish Ryan Murphy would focus more on that programme rather than the increasingly mediocre American Horror Story...
Melissa McDonald I agree! American Horror Story is entertaining, but American Crime Story is incredible.
I've watched it 12 times in a row...its that good
@@annrrf1464 I stopped counting after the fifth time lol
@@charlieapples9373 took me a while to get it lol
Can you do Jim Carrey thinking that he’s Andy Kaufman in “Jim and Andy: The Great Beyond” Love your videos!
Method acting
@@paulthomas8262 nah he straight up thought he was Andy
@@alecburris4225 well he was doing method acting, whether he became deluded while method acting is debatable, but the reason why he was in that position in the first place was due to method acting for a role.
It is not as if he out of the blue thought he was Andy. He was in the process of making film about Andy, and was emercing himself in the role.
Isn't the point of a an analysis is to to debate these points? If it is not as if you can prove it.
The fact that it is ambiguous as to his true character, is very Andy Kaufman.
Spike Milligan, for example had a persona that was constantly shifting. He did have severe PTSD (shell shock)and likely bi-polar. Jim also is Bi-Polar and it is possible he could have delusions for time to time.
Do you mean Jim as andy in Man on The Moon?
Andy kaufman was one of the original"trolls"
I had a "friend" with similar traits as this one. They cant be trusted at all.
Dude you may not know that person they can be quite charming. But its all shallow.
@@Mein-Darth very true. There are many out there with these narcissistic traits and grand delusions who will use others as pawns. It's scary they can be anyone everywhere
Wow. I am totally addicted to your videos Dr. Grande. I can't believe how you analyze these people with such detail. So many lives lost. I think Andrew Cunanan was a Narcissist to the highest degree. Then had a manic episode when he realized he was poor and decided to kill himself, but being a Gradiose Narc he wanted to be famous or infamous which he accomplished.
I was thinking to put a comment and suggest a video about Andrew Cunanan . Amazing . Thanks 😊
Please do Joan Crawford, don't make me get my wire hangers!
Gobnait Áine I’ve been meaning to ask for this one too 😊👍
No! Wiah! Hangahs!
Yes here here .. do Joan Crawford please?
Cristina!!!!! Brrrrriiinnnggg me the AXE!
LOL thank you- i wish this line was as famous as the wire hanger one. Faye Dunaway shouldn't be ashamed of that role- its iconic camp!!!!
I'm curious about his older siblings, what they were like and how they viewed Andrew. I don't understand why Andrew would have been given the master bedroom of the house?
It has been reported that he was father’s "favorite."
Dr grand I think you’re channel is great I think you are very intelligent and appreciate all the information and interesting knowledge you possess
Anytime I see your videos I'm instantly gonna thumbs up it even if I dont watch it until later. I really want to support you in making the world a better place to exist.
Great job, Dr. He was too bright to mis-diagnose that he may have had HIV. He knew how to research, and the symptoms are specific. Tks.
I’ve been waiting for you to do this person forever!! Thanks Dr Grande
'After me, the flood', or 'Apres moi le deluge' was originally attributed to King Louis XV of France and is thought to be a narcissistic allusion to the idea that after he was dead nothing else in the World would matter or that he was completely indifferent to a posthumous future i.e. he had no concerns about his the effect of his actions after he was no more. Seems rather appropriate when considering Cunanan's attitude to others. It is also the motto of 617 Squadron, Royal Air Force, known colloquially as the Dam Busters, which carried out the famous raid on German dams during WW2, thus flooding large areas of German industry.
I’m somewhat intrigued by the French statement. If it’s anything like the German equivalent, then that is very insightful. “After me the flood” is essentially a way to express maximum recklessness. The flood that’s being referred to is of biblical proportions. The idea behind the statement is that the speaker (or the one being referred to) realises that they don’t care if the world ends after they’re gone. They only worry about themselves in the here and now.
I am from Minnesota, and remember his case. Cunanon. Was called a spree killer. Not the typical serial killer, killing to feel superior to others.
To quote Joe Biden, he was a bad dude. I suspect he was raised as the premadanna male, spoiled. When a parent or both parents spoil a kid, not disciplining them the kid starts to believe they are above others. Add to this the pain of the family break up and his dad's moral lapses in both his work life and his family. Cunanan never developed a carreer or went on to post high school education. He also seemed to get away with lesser crimes, selling drugs, prostitution. He may have murdered someone in California before coming to Minnesota. according to reports at the time.
Dr. Grande nailed it, with a most logical conclusion.
That FX one season story abt the Assassination of Versace was intriguing and disturbing... Some people are like a pestilence...
To be honest; "American Crime Story: the Assassination of Gianni Versace" was extremely scary. Darren Criss gave a very impressive performance as Andrew Cunanan but I enjoyed the performances of Edgar Ramirez and Penélope Cruz as Gianni and Donatella Versace, respectively.
Could you perhaps talk about the Stephen King book Rage and about how it inspired real life crime, I think it’s super strange.
Zac R The first novella of Stephen King I read. Xmas Day, 1985. Loved it. I can fully understand why King pulled it from release, though.
M S You will need to get an old copy of 'The Bachman Books’, as since the late 1990’s it’s been out of print. The remainder novellas are still obviously part of The Bachman Books, but not Rage.
Great choice for a video! The FX series that was on really got me curious, and this is the perfect companion material to go with it.
BRILLIANT WORK DR. !!!! So glad I found this, saved me time from researching the history of this Psycopath !!!
Hello Dr. Todd Grande !!! I love your videos ! Can you one day do a video on psychedelics (acid or mushrooms) and wether or not they have legitimate medical use ? That would be so cool :)
I always enjoy your content, Dr. Grande!
Would you consider doing an analysis on Paris Bennett? The case is so heartbreaking but I’d love to hear your insight.
Keep up the great work!
Being a spoiled child is bad and good. My mother bought me and my brothers everything. We didn’t have to pay for anything but as the years go by we smarten up and have taken advantage of being spoiled by saving our money and things we couldn’t buy. Now, we’re hard working individuals that realize money can go at any time.
You did it again Dr. Grande! Thank you for your videos! Can’t wait til you hit 1 million subscribers👏🏼
Would love to hear Dr. Grande's analysis of the John List murders! Such an interesting individual!
Yes. A fascinating case.
Me too. John list was lefthanded. Was cunanan?
This is such a crazy story. Thank you Dr. Grand!
Thankyou Dr. In addition to your well-rehearsed display of *firearm* knowledge, your well-rehearsed O.C.E.A.N explanation is rival only to your expert knowledge of narcissism, as well as to the profile of various serial killer types, which truly gives the expert explanation of these foul deeds. Thank you for your time and effort, Dr. Grande. One thing I missed was the *out-takes* in which I made up, one in which I noticed that his victims names started only with the *13th* to the *22nd* letter of the alphabet, *M,M,R,V,T* which would show either poor planning, poor long-term outlooks, and perhaps the effect of shaming by his mother.
Believe it or not, this is the funniest channel I watch! Always something that gets me laughing! LOL!
Dr Grande I feel that I have learned so much from watching your videos , it feels so good!! Thank you ❤️
Insightful and informative, as usual, Dr. Grande. I remember the way the entire country was following Cunanan's murder spree. What a senseless series of deaths. It's apparent his behavior stemmed from his father's life as a source of distress w/the terrible knowledge that resulted from living a lie.
Okay Dr. Grande, I've got to know how you acquired your in depth gun knowledge.
When you don't work out you learn how to wield a pistol 🤟
Become a patron. He explains that he knows a lot about weapons in general.
@@musicrinda true - he posted a video addressing that question there.
Exceedingly talkative and intelligent, an IQ that's 3 standard deviations above the mean, a fatty, an unfashionable dresser with bad hair...hang on, you're describing me, Dr Grande! Only difference is my IQ is 3 standard deviations BELOW the mean.
love your videos. it’s so great to have insight on what may be going on with people......& the way you explain things makes it easy & fun to learn things like this.
this is completely farfetched but i have been really into “Killing Stalking”, a popular psychological korean comic by Koogi. i would never expect you to go out of your way & read it & make an analysis of the main characters but i just wanted to mention it, if maybe you’d ever want to give a work of fiction like that a try (it’s very explicit). it would be really great to see your perspective on what the characters may be dealing with. ^^ hope all is well with you, Dr. Grande!
Thank you Sir, I was waiting for this video about Cunanan. :)
Oh wow I had forgotten about this guy!!!!!
Me too. The name I recognized when Dr. Grande first began the video but completely forgot what he did.
Forgotten: The last thing Cunanan wanted
You're very entertaining and informative...definitely one of my favorite TH-camrs
Thank you for another video! I admire you so much doc..you are my favorite😍💋 always learning from you. Human behavior fascinates me so I just love your channel!!!
I really like how specific you are with the case facts, like the caliber and models of the firearms used to commit the crimes.
He took the life he couldn't live IMO
Yes, that's it exactly!
He builted his life on a lie and in the end the building fallen
@Bianca RD Yes, with an empty, vacuous acumen who wished to be more important than his intelligence would allow. Tragic and sad--for him and for others.
Great video, your analysis was excellent:)❤️
Dr. Grande, I hope all is well with you. I imagine that you must be extremely busy with your projects. I wish you success in everything you do.
Hi dr Grande, I would like to suggest a video topic: the case of Lia Marie Johnson (what could be happening in a situation like that)
Would you ever be interesred in speculating on ancient romans like caligula or Nero, or even Augustus and Julius Caesar? I would love to hear you weigh in on any of those
Yes!
Thanks for the video Dr G, exemplary as always. I saw a documentary that said Andrew had claimed to have met Versace in a nightclub I think it was. He was a pathological liar though, so who really knows the truth. Some of his friends maintain they were witness to the fact he did indeed meet Versace, and it is argued whether it was once or twice. It was hypothesised that Andrew, who we know had hugely grandiose ideals about his life, he saw Versace as who he should have been - the gay, successful, famous man. Versace symbolised all Andrew felt he should have been, and was never going to be. It all lead to the unravelling of his life. Anyway, thats what I got out of the documentary and things I have read about the case. Who knows though... it is so sad so many people had to die at the hands of Cunanan.
Love your analysis on these people. Please keep up the good work .
Dr. Grande, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Wayne Williams, the convicted Atlanta Child Killer and also law enforcement handling of the case. I was friends with the daughter of Police Chief Graham who went to his grave believing “Wayne Williams didn’t kill anybody”. I’ve even done some amateur sleuthing in the case myself here in Atlanta. Would love to hear your insights!
I requested it too. Hopefully he'll do it.
IMO he definitely did not kill all of them if he killed any. I was so proud of Police Chief Graham for coming out and saying the unpopular. Even though it was too little too late it’s so important that someone from law enforcement at that time actually said it! The kkk was killing most of those poor boys and The FBI was terrified to risk a race war breaking out. They found a young man with some serious mental issues, got some big shots in the music world at the time who were already in BIG trouble for other things to make up stories about seeing Wayne in certain places that would fit their narrative & they wiped their decades long sentences off the board and said “Have a good life.” A total tragedy all around.
I remember following Cunanan's rampage in the news. I agree it seemed as though he wanted to make a name for himself, it must have worked in some small way because I had no problem recalling his name. I wonder what happened to him in his childhood? I believe these illnesses can be genetic, is that correct? I am curious as to the status of his siblings. I enjoyed your offering for a better job description for him, importing land from the French Riviera to build parking lots, indeed! You are a wit as well as a font of information. It seems as though the man always had a screw loose, and yes I know that is not an accepted scientific diagnosis. Thanks for your work doctor, it is both informative and sometimes enjoyable. I wonder what that says about me? No please don't tell me......
Great one Dr Grande, I'm recall watching this unfold in real time.
If the media hadn't leaked phone info, Gianni and that poor other man would still be alive. 😟
Gianni reflected such beauty.
This creep, pure evil. Leaving those bullets behind shows he was unravelling. Yuk
@@IvorMektin1701 RIGHT !! 💖 💎 Even Matt Stone looked good in that 😜
Whew, when Dr mentioned that xtra 35lbs n sloppy hair... I realized it could be any if us right now ! 😀 I thought dr grande was onto my new lockdown look:
Occasionally shower
Constipated from fast food
Early to bed
Another day in these sweats
Never been so bored 😄
Versace was coming home from breakfast at News Cafe on Ocean Dr. when he was shot. He ate there often.
Guess Versace wasn't a Denny's kinda guy
Could you evaluate Richard Nixon?
I asked for this one a couple of months ago. Thanks, Dr. G!
It definitely seems like he was consciously reckless and nihilistic, he wanted to see just how much he could get away with, which would stimulate his grandiose
This guy gives the name Andrew a bad name.
And I thought Shane Dawkins was bad!
Andrew Boehmer Oh no, I just had a grandson named Andrew born two days ago.
@@jankirschke7425 Congrats! 👏 👏 👏 👏
Thanks!
Maria Quattro Thanks, babies are the best, aren’t they?
I always love these analysis from your videos, and so happy for the growth on this channel, would be interested in seeing your in depth analysis of Elliot Rodgers even though you already touched on incels his case always interested me. Thanks.
Just watched the Netflix serie about him,great casting and very close to the reality,thank you Dr Grande
Another great analysis. Keep em coming Dr. Grande 🖤🖤🖤
I would love to hear you do a run down of Dee Dee & Gypsy Rose Blanchard.
Come on Doctor Grande, please do the case of Susan Atkins & her "sister's" , in regards especially of their possible "rehabilitation" and guilt after many years, is it possible total rehab?
Donato Bilancia, an Italian serial killer, was very similar to Cunanan. He too had antisocial, narcissistic, and borderline features. He was a burglar and gambler who, while in his ("dangerous") forties, realized he was a failure and could not live up to his grandiose sense of self anymore, so he fell into a depression and embarked on a self-destructive, suicidal killing spree (as in Cunanan's case, more typical of a "spree", rather than "serial" killer). In the fall of 1997, he exacted revenge on two people (including a friend) who he believed had cheated and defrauded him, triggering the acting out of his fantasies of compensation and revenge for what he perceived was the umpteenth injustice towards him, as well as fantasies of ritualized possession and control. Later, he killed fifteen other people basically at random: in some cases he would kill during robberies, in other cases he would kill prostitutes, in still others he would kill random women on trains. Some of the murders also had a sexual component to them.
My cousin looks a lot like Cunanan. (I live in Minnesota.) A friend and I anonymously called the cops to "report" him, then hid in the bushes across the street to watch the fun. My cousin has ever spoken to me again. i was thirty-three years old at the time and I still shake with laughter when I think about it.
As always, I found your presentation fascinating. Thank you .
I clicked so fast. Thank you!! I learnt a lot from you
"When somebody is on a homicidal rampage, usually they want to have as many cartridges as possible." You slay.