Dosen’t really count because at the start he stated that the enemies would only have the heart’s health and sprite. They still have the same mechanics.
@@TheGrimbler yeah also if you ever get the 6 slime combat you’re dead before you even get that far or even the 3 crawlers (which okay this way you were already dead to a single cultist so)
Spoilers for the spot the difference: • the glowy spark is smaller on the second chopstick(?) • there's a piece of cloth in the upper right corner • the watcher has a scratch on her hand • one less strand of hair right under her bun • the piece of cloth under her hair is removed • there's one more "heart vein" in the lower left corner
Literally a monk run. You’re fasting and finding your inner peace so you can defeat enemies all without any violence (attacks). And you achieve nirvana in the final act
Gotta respect overcoming some of that senseless watcher hate. Scry isn't hard to use well, just discard strikes and defends and it's already very good without literally any thinking.
It's probably just my personal play style but I find potions that provide multi-turn benefits to be my favorites. Stuff like Cultist Potion, Focus Potion, Essence of Steel, Liquid Bronze, etc. Idk if a stance potion is going to save very many runs.
@@Ec1pz divinity can be a dire situation 1 turn kill with its 3 times the damage, so that's an obvious contender for saving runs. as for stance potion, it can save you as an energy potion if you need to finish someone off while in the calm state (gain the needed energy to play your attacks at double the damage because of wrath) or avoid tanking a heavy hit by leaving wrath. stance potion is niche at worst, able to rectify your poor stance management EDIT: i'd like to add that you can watch albino play to see what people can do with a typical stance swapping watcher deck. all he does while playing that is complain how it completely trivializes A20 lol
@@dukecatfishjunior6291fun fact, I have slay the spire on my phone and my computer, I got to A20 on watched on my phone, but never did it on my computer because it was mindlessly easy
Corpse explosion plus burst and catalyst would pretty much solve the run but without corpse explosion any multi-enemy fights become a major issue. Time eater, champ, and especially awakened one are also much more of an issue when they're cleansing poison than mark due to catalyst exhausting.
Make that Burst+ with two Catalyst+ cards. You'll multiply the poison by 3^4. Just 10 poison will grow into a number high enough to damage cap the Heart until it dies.
I am very impressed you beat this without going the simple and obvious route, 1-2 rushdown, then either inner peace/fear no evil or such, going for infinite damage each turn, starting turn 1 or two :)
Don't want to be an erm actually, but the hexaghost does scale both by gaining strength and increasing burn damage after inferno, also by adding more and more burn+ in your deck
my honest take from all the time i've put into this game is that accidentally upgrading inner peace at the campfire before hexaghost was a better play than upgrading pressure points. pressure points is usually not a good card, but it does incentivize giving up on wrath, and so especially with deva form, card draw absolutely becomes the best way to do damage because playing pressure points for 8 twice is better than playing pressure points for 11 once. with how prolonged the fights were all gonna be, one pressure points upgrade just doesn't outscale drawing and playing more pressure points (and block cards). the hexaghost does actually scale but thankfully this fight didn't even really cause a problem.
You have some of the strangest takes I have ever seen in the StS community, but I have to respect both the programming and the willpower to see this through to the end. Admittedly, this is my first video, so maybe it's solely a Watcher thing. Still, I usually wouldn't even look at pressure point, but this has definitely made me at least willing to consider it in future. Cheers! Also next time make a mod that pseudorandomizes your deck after every combat. Upgrade states remain the same, as do card types, but outside of that, it's a crapshoot. Add in Prismatic Shard for even more fun!
As someone who’s done a20 all characters + heart a20 + 100% the game content like this is amazing, I don’t want to see more of what I’ve done I wanna see silly videos like these
Mark would do more damage if you split it across the enemies. Killing an enemy is about the same as 'cleansing debuffs', you lose the scaling you've built up
I spent the whole time thinking “how is he gonna beat the heart with a tiny rushdown “play your whole hand every time” deck?”. And. I guess I got some form of answer
You'd need to majorly high roll the beginning of the run with neow's lament but once you established a win condition it would just be going through the motions every fight. Most likely way I see it happening is scrawl, rushdown, inner peace, mental fortress (one coming from a shop) as first few rewards on watcher. Then you just need 3 removes (probably from events) and a consistent way of handling turn 2 of the heart fight (boss swap pyramid would be the simplest). Edit: Or just boss swap into pbox giving 4 scrawl, mental fortress, inner peace, rushdown, tantrum.
@@deesoff how would you get both neow's lament and boss swap? but yeah I was thinking of something like that, was just curious if someone actually took the time to go through all that
in your no damage video, about what you said at 2:44. I main defect and my only build is get a bunch of capacitors, all the focus, and then frost all the way, in other words, 200 block per turn... With barrage and claw as my main forms of dps. And so with all the capacitors. Consume isn't bad.
@matapavosgamer I mean, 6 energy is quite a bit to get it started. If I played the same in mark, that turns into 66 damage anytime I play a mark card (which is often more than once per turn). I'm a big believer in Alpha but I think in this specific instance it's a tough addition.
This challenge is actually really cool both conceptually and in execution (also dont be too hard on yourself for being occasionally suboptimal you were grinding for 15 hours i would be too)
“Um actually, you didn’t make every enemy into the heart since they still had their normal usually weak moveset🤓” but the challenge is already stupidly annoying so all is forgiven🤣
like how are we going to ignore that you could have EASILY beat this challenge on a20 heart with a very standard rushdown inner peace infinite? do you just not know how to play watcher? no disrespect intended, this video is fire
I feel you. For the longest time I've killed Deka first because it just felt right. One day I heard that Donu is scaling and I just went "oh, i didn't even pay attention to what they were doing" Also I need to point out - Deka is a dodecahedron not a square. And fun fact Donu is a torus
This is why you look at enemy intents. Deca alternates between hitting while putting 2 dazes into your discard pile and giving both of them block (plus some plated armor on A19+). Donu alternates between hitting and buffing both their strength by 3.
He definitely has enough energy for it but i don't think his deck can support it at that point. Alpha only starts doing things after drawing and playing it three times for 50 damage once a turn. Compare to a pressure point , you are already doing that damage twice over. Besides, he already has 1 deva form and 3 fasting to play so having another set up card just delays the process, which is VERY bad against scaling enemies.
Make sure you dont contradict yourself 20 seconds later when you say something. Becuase you said "act 1 bosses have no scaling" which is flatly incorrect as you are fighting the ones whose whole gimmik IS scaling and even showing his moves showing that he did infact scale. Otherwise pretty good video.
Hey, music! Don't know if you saw my comment on one of your previous videos, but I'm just glad there's something playing in the background. Maybe a little bit too loud at some points, but it sounds good.
3:00 don't see any comment atm finding the differences in the images but so far... (also bear with me i haven't played STS, only watched albinovevo's vids on it, so idk what im describing lol). for the right image: 1. top right corner has a purple tentacle 2. the lower of the two hair sticks has a less bright sparkle/shine 3. the hand has a small scar on the palm seen below the pinky finger 4. (this one took like 3 mins to spot lol) behind the watcher is what i think is a pole-arm? (kind of looks like a tail) instead of the two on left, and some other bits surrounding it removed 5. (probably took me at most 5 mins to spot x,d) at the bottom left corner in the space near the thumb, there's a little bit of purple energy coming from off screen that is gone in the left image) (right after finding the 5th one i realized there's 6 to find, and i didn't know where to begin 😭, 6th one prob. also took 5 mins) 6. almost gave up lol, but after zooming out, I saw that a blue-orange hair strand near the hair-bun (starting from the sparkle moving down) is gone in the right image! if it turns out the answers are revealed somewhere near the end or answered by someone else that i happened to miss.... oh well, this was fun xd
Just saying i think stength scaling is way better and really consistent if you make sure you have enough defense. I ended up with 300 strength by the time i finished the act 3 boss which translates into a 1500 damage attack
The only watcher relic that isn't at least slightly good at 5:02 is melange. I would be happy to see and pick up every single other relic on screen. Did you smoke crack before spouting that line?
So I noticed in your multiple enemy fights, you only focused on one enemy at a time, and didn't apply pressure points to the others. Did you know that when you use pressure points, it affects all monsters that contain a mark, even if you didn't use it on that monster? So you could have applied one mark a piece to all, and then focused on one, and it would have whittle the others down as you destroyed the first main one. You've played this game a long time, but I've even seen pros get flabbergasted when they find that out so I don't know if you by chance knew, and I read all the comments and no one mentioned it. Would like to hear your thoughts =) Stay Awes9me
5:02 I cannot believe you just called Watchers unique relics trash. Melange is bad yeah, and Damaru and Golden Eye can be good depending on if you have any Mantra/Scry respectively. All the other relics on screen are fantastic imo
Well you didn’t beat it on A20 but you did beat the heart approximately 30 times. So I’ll call it even.
Also first (god I hate myself)
Next video idea: I beat slay the Spire on Ascension 40, and everything has twice as much health and deals twice as much damage.
@@Ec1pzdo it!
@@Ec1pz 3x and we may forgive you.
@@Ec1pz A25 mod + humility + smart enemy AI, beat the heart unseeded, it’s tooooaaaatally possible.
Local nun performs lethal cardio massage on whole Spire population
😂👍
The minions at 15:00 aren’t the heart, instant restart
Dosen’t really count because at the start he stated that the enemies would only have the heart’s health and sprite. They still have the same mechanics.
That joke was moderately sick.
Ec1pz clearly put a lot of heart into it.
@@UlyssesK402enough of that 👍
"Slay the Spire but Every Enemy has Heart sprite and max health"
I thought it would be a bunch of hearts with the original enemy's max hp
I can't imagine being able to clear Act I that way.
@qazzaqstan Neow's blessing into good cards could help mitigate the damage you may receive, but you're still kinda donezo on the boss
@@TheGrimbler yeah also if you ever get the 6 slime combat you’re dead before you even get that far or even the 3 crawlers (which okay this way you were already dead to a single cultist so)
Spoilers for the spot the difference:
• the glowy spark is smaller on the second chopstick(?)
• there's a piece of cloth in the upper right corner
• the watcher has a scratch on her hand
• one less strand of hair right under her bun
• the piece of cloth under her hair is removed
• there's one more "heart vein" in the lower left corner
That last one in the bottom left corner was tricky, I completely glossed over it 😂
Literally a monk run. You’re fasting and finding your inner peace so you can defeat enemies all without any violence (attacks). And you achieve nirvana in the final act
Gotta respect overcoming some of that senseless watcher hate. Scry isn't hard to use well, just discard strikes and defends and it's already very good without literally any thinking.
Or play Simmering Fury and then discard non-attacks for a "death or glory" turn.
or accumulate curses for any relics that give curse buffs and then scry all curses as they come up
no one gonna mention how he called ambrosia / stance potion bad, despite them being 2 of the best potions in the game?
Yeah, ambrosia is up there with ghost in a jar as a contender for best potion in the game. This guy is massively sleeping on divinity
It's probably just my personal play style but I find potions that provide multi-turn benefits to be my favorites. Stuff like Cultist Potion, Focus Potion, Essence of Steel, Liquid Bronze, etc. Idk if a stance potion is going to save very many runs.
@@Ec1pz divinity can be a dire situation 1 turn kill with its 3 times the damage, so that's an obvious contender for saving runs. as for stance potion, it can save you as an energy potion if you need to finish someone off while in the calm state (gain the needed energy to play your attacks at double the damage because of wrath) or avoid tanking a heavy hit by leaving wrath. stance potion is niche at worst, able to rectify your poor stance management
EDIT: i'd like to add that you can watch albino play to see what people can do with a typical stance swapping watcher deck. all he does while playing that is complain how it completely trivializes A20 lol
@@Ec1pzdivinity wins the combat on the spot what are you talking about
@@dukecatfishjunior6291fun fact, I have slay the spire on my phone and my computer, I got to A20 on watched on my phone, but never did it on my computer because it was mindlessly easy
16:00 A certain watcher-unique potion would've saved you the 31 here
Wonderful video. And impressive editing!
The "5 damage isn't going to matter" Letter Opener could've saved him there if he used the miracle potion
That joke was so sick it made me feel unwell.
Joke so sick we call it covid-20
"Last christmas, I gave you my heart~"
"And the very next day, it was suddenly slain~"
The amount of preparation to even make this video premise possible is insane, loved the video!
bro has never heard of a watcher infinite
Infinite is boring. This Mark build is way more interesting
@@TonyButter9 33 times more interesting I'd say.
@@TonyButter9 he cant even use Mark properly cuz hes not spreading the Mark on all enemies lmao
Bro you would need like 2 catalysts and a burst to out scale mark lmao
This is assuming you have a decent way to get the poison started
And also mark is prolly just better because it doesn't exhaust and you only need 1
Corpse explosion plus burst and catalyst would pretty much solve the run but without corpse explosion any multi-enemy fights become a major issue. Time eater, champ, and especially awakened one are also much more of an issue when they're cleansing poison than mark due to catalyst exhausting.
Make that Burst+ with two Catalyst+ cards. You'll multiply the poison by 3^4. Just 10 poison will grow into a number high enough to damage cap the Heart until it dies.
Mark is the best card in the game! **Proceeds to take 33 fucking turns to kill 750 hp enemies**
I am very impressed you beat this without going the simple and obvious route, 1-2 rushdown, then either inner peace/fear no evil or such, going for infinite damage each turn, starting turn 1 or two :)
Don't want to be an erm actually, but the hexaghost does scale both by gaining strength and increasing burn damage after inferno, also by adding more and more burn+ in your deck
Came to say exactly this lol
I'm actually really impressed you managed to beat the act 4 elites good job king
Crazy to think that even with pressure points at its highest, red/blue stance swapping is still infinitely better
I love your videos so much man, please keep on making these
another great video by one of my favorite slay the spire content creators
The ending was funny as hell
The music seems a little too loud compared to your voice this video. Other than that, great stuff! Love the editing and gameplay.
my honest take from all the time i've put into this game is that accidentally upgrading inner peace at the campfire before hexaghost was a better play than upgrading pressure points. pressure points is usually not a good card, but it does incentivize giving up on wrath, and so especially with deva form, card draw absolutely becomes the best way to do damage because playing pressure points for 8 twice is better than playing pressure points for 11 once. with how prolonged the fights were all gonna be, one pressure points upgrade just doesn't outscale drawing and playing more pressure points (and block cards). the hexaghost does actually scale but thankfully this fight didn't even really cause a problem.
also scrawl is just straight up the best card in the game pretty much, so that astrolabe into scrawl+ was so clutch lmao
You're actually insane, I love it
damn you deserve more subs. it's been years since i sat through a 20 minute video invested in the whole thing
You have some of the strangest takes I have ever seen in the StS community, but I have to respect both the programming and the willpower to see this through to the end. Admittedly, this is my first video, so maybe it's solely a Watcher thing. Still, I usually wouldn't even look at pressure point, but this has definitely made me at least willing to consider it in future. Cheers!
Also next time make a mod that pseudorandomizes your deck after every combat. Upgrade states remain the same, as do card types, but outside of that, it's a crapshoot. Add in Prismatic Shard for even more fun!
Mad respect for even trying this in the first place, it’d have tossed my pc out the window before the second attempt came halfway through
This guy gotta be the only person on youtube with a minecraft skin profile picture not posting any minecraft videos
based
He definitely is not
Mark, best mechanic in the game? Lmao okay.
As someone who’s done a20 all characters + heart a20 + 100% the game content like this is amazing, I don’t want to see more of what I’ve done I wanna see silly videos like these
Goated video youtube cooking with the recommendations frfr
Funnily enough she can summon lightning
Foreign influence and getting ball lightning.
Yep, that's worse, this guy is wrong from the beginning in every step
this is probably the best up and coming youtuber
For this, I award you the honour of "greatest slay the spite youtuber". Wear it with pride, you deserve it.
11:50 Bro actually paid off the gang. That's one of the best risk/reward fights in the game and he _paid money_ to skip it.
Mark would do more damage if you split it across the enemies. Killing an enemy is about the same as 'cleansing debuffs', you lose the scaling you've built up
Slay the spire but every card is randomised (or instantly transformed) upon pick up including starting deck? Love your videos man, keep it up
Nobody tell this guy about watcher infinites. I would like to imagine a world where deva form and pressure points are s tier
Good production, glad the algo sent me your way
That is the greatest tiny house I have ever seen
This video is definetly gonna reach 100k views
i hope you get a well deserved vacation after this
I'm actually disappointed he didn't fight the final heart. I really thought he was going to and don't understand why STS creators never do.
I believe it may have been a joke
I spent the whole time thinking “how is he gonna beat the heart with a tiny rushdown “play your whole hand every time” deck?”. And. I guess I got some form of answer
I have never seen slay the spire in my life and i think that this is batshit insane
Idk about the Gandhi joke but the bit at the end about not fighting the actual heart is very funny to me
Ok "diva form" is just hilarious 😂
Undernight music? Xenoblade music? Hell yeag
this vid deserves more views!! great work man
Hahahahaha, rotund beast, my beloved
Wake up everyone we got ANOTHER BANGER TO WATCH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I’m so proud of you for the incredible content bro keep it up!
The streets are saying it wasn't an a20 run, so it doesn't count.
An a20 every boss is the heart might be a pretty interesting run tho
This video is super impressive
Genuinely schizophrenic, 10/10
pros: solid arguments
cons: CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!
Oh, I was hoping it would be an actual all heart run, was curious how it'd be possible.
You'd need to majorly high roll the beginning of the run with neow's lament but once you established a win condition it would just be going through the motions every fight. Most likely way I see it happening is scrawl, rushdown, inner peace, mental fortress (one coming from a shop) as first few rewards on watcher. Then you just need 3 removes (probably from events) and a consistent way of handling turn 2 of the heart fight (boss swap pyramid would be the simplest).
Edit: Or just boss swap into pbox giving 4 scrawl, mental fortress, inner peace, rushdown, tantrum.
@@deesoff how would you get both neow's lament and boss swap?
but yeah I was thinking of something like that, was just curious if someone actually took the time to go through all that
Wait, I just checked, you only have 2k subs?? How? These videos are great!
8:34
Now _That's_ what I call heartburn
in your no damage video, about what you said at 2:44. I main defect and my only build is get a bunch of capacitors, all the focus, and then frost all the way, in other words, 200 block per turn... With barrage and claw as my main forms of dps. And so with all the capacitors. Consume isn't bad.
The brimstone thing is real. Brimstone us my favorite relic
That fasting joke was extremely sick
With an eating disorder
I spotted three of the differences by the time to images vanished at 3:27
scar on the palm, different twinkle in the hair sticks, tentacle top right
Me when brimstone into the birds 😢
These are so so fun! Excited for what you cook up next, but if youre open to suggestions, i'd love to get my best friend prismatic shard involved
There's a mark mod that's really fun, it adds several new cards that work with mark. Highly recommend.
As a a20 heart enjoyer who's bored of rushdown unfunite this video is lit awesome run
Turning down Alpha on a Deva form against 750 hp enemies is a real missplay, 50 damage every turn for free goes a long way
@matapavosgamer I mean, 6 energy is quite a bit to get it started. If I played the same in mark, that turns into 66 damage anytime I play a mark card (which is often more than once per turn). I'm a big believer in Alpha but I think in this specific instance it's a tough addition.
This challenge is actually really cool both conceptually and in execution (also dont be too hard on yourself for being occasionally suboptimal you were grinding for 15 hours i would be too)
Awwww I thought you were going to do the opposite: every enemy having the heart's abilities and passives, but with their HP being normal.
Algorithm boost! So happy to see these challenges continue to take wildly different leaps in difficulty!
Holy moly underrated video recommendation. Who the heck thinks of these things and try to beat it
I didn’t even know it was possible to upload a video on TH-cam about slay the spire on anything else than A20. I was wrong, apparently.
17:57 that joke was so sick, I sent it a get well soon card
This escalated quick...
18:04 It is terminal, Jim.
You technically had lethal against the orb walker on 4 hp, using the miracle potion to activate the 5 damage when 3 skills are played relic
I genuinely thought for all battles, each time you play a card, you lose hp
Now i wanna see somebody do this with TBOI
3:10 the left one has a brighter x on what i think is the right chopstick.
I wonder how hard beat of death and regular hp would be. Pretty hard early game i imagine
“Um actually, you didn’t make every enemy into the heart since they still had their normal usually weak moveset🤓” but the challenge is already stupidly annoying so all is forgiven🤣
you're a legend for this video, but the watcher slander is illegal!
like how are we going to ignore that you could have EASILY beat this challenge on a20 heart with a very standard rushdown inner peace infinite? do you just not know how to play watcher?
no disrespect intended, this video is fire
Wait... THE CIRCLE IS THE ONE THAT BUFFS?!?! I've been killing the square first and the buff wouldnt have transferred?
Damn i suck at this game
I feel you. For the longest time I've killed Deka first because it just felt right. One day I heard that Donu is scaling and I just went "oh, i didn't even pay attention to what they were doing"
Also I need to point out - Deka is a dodecahedron not a square. And fun fact Donu is a torus
The square gives you dazed, so you have to watch out for that
This is why you look at enemy intents. Deca alternates between hitting while putting 2 dazes into your discard pile and giving both of them block (plus some plated armor on A19+). Donu alternates between hitting and buffing both their strength by 3.
@@feliksporeba5851 I would be more concerned if Donut was not a torus lol
wait what the heck why didn't you take alpha your deck had both the time and the draw for it to be good
He definitely has enough energy for it but i don't think his deck can support it at that point. Alpha only starts doing things after drawing and playing it three times for 50 damage once a turn. Compare to a pressure point , you are already doing that damage twice over. Besides, he already has 1 deva form and 3 fasting to play so having another set up card just delays the process, which is VERY bad against scaling enemies.
50 damage a turn just isn't a payoff worth investing resources into most of the time.
@@raylader7656 ok but I feel the aoe could have been useful in a couple fights
Eh, it was okay. Not necessary everything else he had and it slowed down the deck’s main cycle. Mark also deals great aoe, if used correctly
Make sure you dont contradict yourself 20 seconds later when you say something. Becuase you said "act 1 bosses have no scaling" which is flatly incorrect as you are fighting the ones whose whole gimmik IS scaling and even showing his moves showing that he did infact scale. Otherwise pretty good video.
Hey, music! Don't know if you saw my comment on one of your previous videos, but I'm just glad there's something playing in the background. Maybe a little bit too loud at some points, but it sounds good.
3:00 don't see any comment atm finding the differences in the images but so far... (also bear with me i haven't played STS, only watched albinovevo's vids on it, so idk what im describing lol).
for the right image:
1. top right corner has a purple tentacle
2. the lower of the two hair sticks has a less bright sparkle/shine
3. the hand has a small scar on the palm seen below the pinky finger
4. (this one took like 3 mins to spot lol) behind the watcher is what i think is a pole-arm? (kind of looks like a tail) instead of the two on left, and some other bits surrounding it removed
5. (probably took me at most 5 mins to spot x,d) at the bottom left corner in the space near the thumb, there's a little bit of purple energy coming from off screen that is gone in the left image)
(right after finding the 5th one i realized there's 6 to find, and i didn't know where to begin 😭, 6th one prob. also took 5 mins)
6. almost gave up lol, but after zooming out, I saw that a blue-orange hair strand near the hair-bun (starting from the sparkle moving down) is gone in the right image!
if it turns out the answers are revealed somewhere near the end or answered by someone else that i happened to miss.... oh well, this was fun xd
found @mattegoesoffbeat 's comment, props to them finding the differences first!
now to trivialise this: a seeded run with Pandora's box 10 pressure points
also, without having beat of death it feels like a simple infinite with like inner peace tantrum rushdown would work
I raise you a deck of 5 Grand Finales
@@Ec1pzliterally any status card enemy:
@@Ec1pz Better yet: 1 grand finale plus unceasing top.
Just saying i think stength scaling is way better and really consistent if you make sure you have enough defense. I ended up with 300 strength by the time i finished the act 3 boss which translates into a 1500 damage attack
i’ve also never picked up frozen eye
11:40 can't believe you would take such disrespect
The only watcher relic that isn't at least slightly good at 5:02 is melange. I would be happy to see and pick up every single other relic on screen. Did you smoke crack before spouting that line?
jokester jokeson
Insane that this is possible
So I noticed in your multiple enemy fights, you only focused on one enemy at a time, and didn't apply pressure points to the others. Did you know that when you use pressure points, it affects all monsters that contain a mark, even if you didn't use it on that monster? So you could have applied one mark a piece to all, and then focused on one, and it would have whittle the others down as you destroyed the first main one. You've played this game a long time, but I've even seen pros get flabbergasted when they find that out so I don't know if you by chance knew, and I read all the comments and no one mentioned it. Would like to hear your thoughts =)
Stay Awes9me
I main the human.
Hehe, AWP go pew pew
5:02 I cannot believe you just called Watchers unique relics trash. Melange is bad yeah, and Damaru and Golden Eye can be good depending on if you have any Mantra/Scry respectively. All the other relics on screen are fantastic imo